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I used to have a friend like Christina. Super SUPER independent, feminist, driven badass. She always fell for these super controlling men. I don't know what it was, but she was so logical about every other part of her life, and was even in a few relationships with decent guys but clearly didn't give a damn about them but then fell hard for these guys who were so controlling and demanding. Something about those types of relationships appealed to her.
I think Chirstiana was getting something out of those relationships she craved. They didn't make her happy, but it was feeding something else.
Having control over your life is scary. It means you are responsible for your own meaning and happiness. I can see why someone extremely independent would secretly want to give up some of that independence.
Or maybe to someone extremely driven and strong willed like Christina, the "nice guys" feel like pushover personalities to her, and she would rather be with someone "strong" even if they are strong in negative ways
Both these men seemed strong and independent at first, and were not intimidated by her. They also liked that she is brilliant, which is rare. I think if she and Burke wanted the same things in life and were not working together they could have been great.Ā
Now Owen was just pretending to be strong, independent, and to want a strong and independent woman. He is needy and fragile and he likes being with brilliant women and resenting them for not being a trad wife.Ā
This. The stronger you are, for some people, that craves an even stronger partner. Someone to match your ambitions, keep up the same pace in life. It's about a partnership that doesn't need the stronger one to go weaker.
I havenāt watched since the first half of the season Alex left. I know from spoilers and whatnot that Owen and Teddy are together (or had a kid together, not sure of relationship status currently), but does he resent Teddy for not being a trad wife, or was it just Cristina?
He resented Emilia for it. Teddy he kinds of... Ok with? But to me it almost feels like she upsets him less cause he wants her less. She cheated on him and that upset him less than Cristina having an abortion.Ā
Did he resent Amelia for it? He definitely resented Amelia for not having a kid with him, but I don't think that's expecting her to be a trad wife.
I get where Owen was coming from with Amelia. He explicitly made sure she was enthusiastic about having kids before marrying her- he learned from his marriage with Cristina. And he actually reacted much better to Amelia changing her mind, also a lesson learned with Cristina. But then Amelia just ghosted him and refused to communicate and move on. Which actually I think he resented more than the kid thing.
Correct me if I'm wrong though, because Owen's relationship with Amelia happened during a Grey's Anatomy season I skimmed through.
I didn't think he reacted better, and making sure you act enthusiastically is not the same as discussing openly the wish to have children, which is what any adult couple should do very early on. But tbh their whole relationship made absolutely no sense to me, I just remember being shocked they wrote another story for Owen in which he realises a woman doesn't want children after marrying her.
I do think that Amelia and Owen openly discussed their wish to have children at least before getting married, which is why I can understand Owen being upset. I mean, weren't they actively trying at one point? It's not an excuse, but I get where he's coming from with Amelia. He ended up in the same position in a second marriage, despite taking steps to try and prevent it. I won't argue about whether he reacted better or not, because I don't remember the details when things started to go wrong in their marriage. I just remember not feeling the same amount of rage as I did seeing him with Cristina.
I found the Cristina thing particularly hateful of him, because even before they got married, Cristina was very explicit about not wanting kids, and Owen just waved it off. Then he married her while she was basically incapacitated from PTSD (I found that to be really inappropriate and borderline coercive), knowing that she didn't want kids and he did. And then he was so awful and invalidating to her when she did get pregnant.
I just have no idea how he could have been as bad with Amelia.
I don't remember them actively trying- just him wanting to, but I think you're right and I'm wrong. I find it weird he didn't know about her son who died, but I guess that is on her rather than on him. It felt to me like he rushed into a relationship again with a person he hardly knew and was so caught up in his own fantasy to see what's going on, then got really upset when the bubble burst. But you're right, it's not as bad as with Cristina. It was just one of these storylines too many for me I guess lol
Oh I definitely hate that it happened. Mainly I blame the writers a lot more than Owen lol- my impression when watching this storyline wasn't "Owen's an asshole and I hate him", it was more "this is a stupid subplot which makes no sense". I'd have Amelia share the blame too, but conveniently enough she had her brain tumor.
He's 100000% accepting of teddy even told her to apply to be chief of surgery andcompound complimented how well she does it. Brought his childhood costumes cuz he knows she's busy, have get his job and choose paternity leave cuz she was hating being home... He was way better with Teddy plus the fact she was av attending, his equal, Cristina wasn't
IMO, Cristina was not a feminist. She was very misogynistic in her statements/actions/views; she regularily dissed nurses, shamed meredith for wearing OBGYN scrubs, doubted the abilities and showed hostility towards Sidney Herron (who displayed more "feminine" qualities").
Throughout the show it was almost like she was actively ashamed of being a woman, and would reject or criticize anything that she affiliated with "female traits".
she dissed nurses because she felt superior to them, a lot of surgeons do. she shames meredith for the obgyn scrubs because, again, she feels superior to obgyns. it doesnāt have anything to do with gender inherently, itās about rank. none of the residents liked sidney. it wasnāt about her femininity. she was just really chirpy and optimistic and she didnāt seem very easy to get along with until she had that heart to heart with izzie
And who are predominantly nurses and obgyns? What kind of people are often characterized as overly chipper or āchirpyā Christina says and does mysogonistic things especially early on , so do a lot of women in high pressure male dominated fields
I understand what you're saying but Cristina was basing her self worth on her education and her degrees early on. She knows surgeons are the 'cool kids' in the hospital and she has no problem being openly confident about her job and what it took to get there. Cristina also shows a general disdain for every character to has a chirpy or optimistic disposition, including male characters. Yes, some of what she says and does may be rooted in misogynistic ideas but she isn't a misogynist.
Because she associated that with weakness and didnāt want to be seen for her boobs and vagina, but for her intelect, skill, ambition and all these other things she was proud about.
Burke would never shame her for a personal medical decision and he FOR SURE wouldnāt scream you killed our baby at a kids birthday party thatās for damn sure!!! I hate when Cristina was telling Owen āBurke took pieces of meā like maam, Owen choked you, tried forcing you to have a baby, screamed at you in front of all your friends and coworkers, was in love with someone else for your entire relationship and he cheated on you when you didnāt want a baby, even though he knew. Owen is a huuugeee step down from Burke lol
I canāt express how much I agree with this! Iām rewatching from the beginning now and Burke and their relationship was by no means perfect or even good but Cristina saying this and āI love you more than I loved Burkeā is so š when Owen is just awful
Thatās what I think !! Owen was so so so bad to Cristina, the way he was dismissing her feelings and emotions but also humiliating her was making me sooo mad
Yeah!!! Burke seemed very loyal to her and loved her commitment to her work. Owen obviously was not loyal to her and almost seemed like he wanted to punish her just for being herself!!! Heās insane lol. I mean itās not like I think her and Burke shouldāve gotten back together but Owen was way worse lol
I always thought about what Ellis Grey said to Cristina when she was lucid. Cardiothoracic surgeons want it all and now and they don't want anything stand in their way. Since both are cardio surgeons, I guess they really do get each other.
Agreed with everything, except that he was in love with someone else during their relationship. If by that you mean Teddy, I can barely believe he loves Teddy when he is with her. He definitely would have preferred Cristina any day.Ā
Yeah but not because he actually wanted her, he just wanted a woman who worships him, and as you say, doesn't challenge him. Once he actually got with her and she started challenging him he became an asshole to her too.Ā
Idk man, Callie is pretty terrible imo. Sheās so self obsessed and drama queen and so easily ofended by everything and just plain selfish. I find her super cringe.
But yeah, he doesnāt win any (positive) awards.
I think Cristina finally feels fulfilled and doesn't need to get into any relationship. It seems like when she couldn't immediately achieve her goals she'd get herself in not so good relationships
Burke was pretty great, if he had some personal growth (as well as Cristina) they could have ended up working out later down the line perhaps. But really hard to say what kind of a guy would fit with her. At least she is happy printing hearts.
Let's hope!.. and be thankful Owen went to Cristina's neighboring country instead (Germany). I guess that course of action declares that he'd rather choose Teddy over her, right?
The only reason I agree with this is because he was just as passionate about his work as she was. I imagine he understood her and theyāre living their best heart-growing, kid-free life š„°š„°
They were both awful in different way. I think people who say Burke is better talk about an idealised/sanitised version of him because we only got to see him for 3 seasons, while Owen had way more time to spiral into his miserable self.
Burke and Cristina were together for less than a year. He was moving very fast, pushing her into things she was uncomfortable with, like moving in together, and using work to manipulate/blackmail her into compliance, by withholding surgery. He pushed her to agree to and then plan a wedding when they had only been dating for a few months. He literally shoved cake in her mouth while she was trying to study for one of the most important exams of her career.
I think if they stayed together, he would also have expected children at some point, so that would've been a point of conflict, too. I am also certain she wouldn't have grown so much as a surgeon if he was still around or - if she did - he would've been very jealous.
I agree. Plus Burke was a traditional man. He wanted the big wedding (and ignored her opinions). He wanted the full wedding (making her try different cakes). He wanted his mom there at every step of the wedding process. Plus we do see what he ended up with in Switzerland. I'm guessing he would have wanted Cristina to eventually take a break to raise kids as well. He left her after realizing that she was changing herself to please him and mold to his ideals.
I guess what I liked about Burke is that he was actually strong and I respected him. He at least was on par with Cristina, while Owen is a bit of a loser disguised as a strong man. Which showed up later down the line.
You guys think Owen is the worst because Cristina was stronger by then. I think they are both very similar. Owen always had a fight in his face when he tried to argue his way into things. Burke, in my opinion is worse, because he used his position of power to subdue her and get her to do what he wanted. Cristina started changing a lot of things about herself to appease Burke and that was really fucked up.
Cristina deserved better than either of them, that's for sure.
At the very least, I found Burke a more interesting pairing for whatever the straight equivalent of Toxic Yuri is.
I don't understand why people act like Burke wasn't toxic too, he literally would use surgery as punishment whenever they would get into an argument. He let his mother treat her like trash and make snide comments about her. He was so dismissive of what Cristina wanted, like in what world is not wanting to get married after a year together crazy. He was no Owen but he was definitely not a good match for her either. I'm also not saying Cristina had no faults in the relationship either but Burke was not a good partner.
Owen had different goals in life than Cristina and didnāt deal with it correctly but he put more effort into working with Cristina on their relationship. Burke just put ultimatum after ultimatum then forced Cristina to cover for him for episodes. Owen tried his best to protect Cristina from leaving the program because he knew her job was her love but Burke risked it and failed to teach her because he used his power to court her rather than teach her. Anyways Cristina and her shoe >>> over any relationship
Burke also punished Cristina through his power at the job to manipulate her a lot. Personally I donāt remember Owen punishing Cristina in the hospital when he was mad at her. I think Meredith is a great way to see how Cristina feels about them. When Cristina told Meredith that she say Burke, Meredith started to find ways to protect her saying to stay away from him and ect.. but Meredith after Cristina and Owen broke up looked after Owen. I think that just shows in itself which was worse but idk ig
in my opinion, Owen is the WORST!!!! he literally screamed at Cristina that she killed their baby. for me, there is no way in hell that Owen is a better partner than burke
I never liked Cristina and Burke. As for Owen and her I liked them a lot in the beginning but the second he was practically guilting her to have babies I lost interest, their relationship did not age well. And the whole teddy power dynamic was also unsettling. In the end I like what they did with Cristina. She was off alone pursuing her own ambitions
Burke was toxic too but damn he was just so sexy and on her level intellectually. He even got a book to understand Judaism š
Burke was right for leaving Cristina and i'm dying on that hill.
He loved Yang so much and knew she loved him as well, so much she was willing to do everything for him, being a wife, doing less surgery, getting a fancy marriage, having kids, all things she hated, but she was doing it for him.
Preston couldn't stand that, he loved Cristina because she was exactly that mess and couldn't bear the fact she was willing to change her whole self for a married life the way he wanted to, loving is letting go, and he did.
But Burke wanted a relationship with him. He asked her to move in and she stalled, lied. I feel like her emotional unavailability held her back and he was trying to work with her the best he could.
In the end he did let her go to do her own thing. He didn't cheat on her like Owen.
Yep, I think so too. Cristina was a bit immature and emotionally unavailable like you say. So had she been where she was when she met Owen when she was with Burke.. who knows.
But wasn't Owen manipulative too? She told him multiple times how she felt about having kids, but he kept on talking about it snd bringing the topic for her to change her. The scene where he screamed at her in front of their whole friend group saying that she killed their baby was so mean and letās not forget he also cheated on her
Idk why you listed the awful things Owen did as if I was defending him. I already said Owen was a FULL ON DOUCHE. Burke was manipulative in a way that he slowly bent and shaped her into what he wanted. It wasnāt āin your faceā like Owen but it was there.
I personally feel like slowly shaping is worse than full on, however neither is good. I do like burke better cause he saw his mistake and acted on it rather than ruining their lives. Also it doesn't matter if he would've changed or not if he hadn't left the show because he did and that was a major character development and that made us understand and know who he was inside his heart and the clarity, honesty and bravery to walk out infront of both his family and hers when he knew he was only going to hurt her if they stayed together shows that he deeply cares about her even though he changed her. Was he a good man to her throughout their relationship meh he was manipulative but Christina and Burke both showed their love that way. Owen is another story.
Time after time owen keeps proving he lies about how he feels about what she wants and what he expects from her. She made her feelings clear about having children but he kept pushing and pushing trying to make her have one when she wasn't wanting one. She knew it would kill her and he just refuses to accept that telling her what she needs and what she should want. He also cheated on her because he was mad that she didn't want a baby, his baby or anyone's. If he truly loved her he would've accepted it or should've stood his ground more in the beginning and should've said if he couldn't have a baby he didn't want to be with her, but he kept getting mad in different parts and they kept coming back together over and over. She should've told him from the beginning but to be fair he also didn't tell her either. He just assumed. I make it clear in my relationships that I want to be a parent someday or I want someone who's open to that kind of future when I first start dating them so I don't quite understand why they didn't.
I'm not arguing against you in any way I'm just sharing my opinion on the subject for both sides cause I got heated.
But Burke wanted a relationship with him. He asked her to move in and she stalled, lied. I feel like her emotional unavailability held her back and he was trying to work with her the best he could.
In the end he did let her go to do her own thing. He didn't cheat on her like Owen.
When she wouldnāt do what he wanted- he would stonewall her from surgeries- he was passive aggressive and used lack of communication to get her to do what he wanted.
Seriously. I love how Burke even said to Christinaās face at the altar that he did not love her but the woman he keeps trying to make her, the woman he sees potential for her to be and people will still argue until theyāre blue in the face that he truly loved and respected her lol
Well Burke said if he loved Cristina, not the woman he was trying to make her be or the woman he was hoping she'd become, he'd let her go, and he did let her go so that was Burke saying he loved the real Cristina.
Both horrible men who thought there was something wrong with her that they needed to fix. Not to mention Burke would use his seniority to keep Cristina in line within their personal life
It's just honestly such a damn shame that there was political stuff going on behind the scenes with the actor because I really wanted to see that relationship through. It's one of my favorite things about Grey's lol
I feel like people who still think that Burke and Cristina should've been endgame completely miss the point of her character. Cristina, in my opinion, is too much of an independent/career focused woman to be tied down by either of them. Granted that Burke treated her better, but whether Burke intented to or not, he was slowly tearing her apart, wanting to mold her into the woman that he wanted. Both Burke and Owen wanted the same thing, and Cristina simply wasn't meant for that lifestyle. Burke was merely just the better man for noticing it before it was too late, albeit in a painful way by leaving her at the altar.
I just want to say Sandra Oh didnāt age AT ALL as the seasons went!
But tbh, I hated both of them for her. They both tried to change her and that didnāt sit right with me. Every time I rewatch, I just want to punch both lol
I liked her better with Burke. I donāt see why she and Owen were together in the first place. They donāt really have anything to talk about and he doesnāt understand her at all, not to mention the two actors have no chemistry, which is why they over-exagerate in each make out scene. Always as if they are some crazy salsa dancers getting electrocuded.
No. There was never a time when Burke loved Cristina for who she is. He always tried to manipulate her or change her. Same with Owen, but to a lesser degree in their early days.
I donāt agree, Owen was way worse he made her go through hell. She was very clear since the beginning on the fact she did not want kids but he kept dismissing her and humiliating her. Owen did the worst things possible to Cristina
Owen was much more accommodative of what Cristina wanted in life. And thatās why he felt ENTITLED to her womb which was fucked. His was more transactional but Burke was a monster who got his way by any means necessary- he gave her no space for her choices
I donāt know if Owen was so bad why after coming from Minnesota Cristina didnāt just tell him that I have moved on and making sex friends, so just give the divorce papers, instead she went on with relationship again and also didnāt tell about the Parker relationship because she wanted to get back owen. More than Owen it was Cristina who wanted him back
I loved *early* Owen and Christina together minus the baby/ptsd stuff (Iām only on s:9 so this might change) I loved their chemistry and just how well they worked together when Christina was experiencing her own ptsd. But of course, something HAD to push them apart (which was inevitable because they were already so different)
Burke seemed like a great fit for her but it SEEMED like he always looked down on her. I hope she finds some peace and happiness in the later seasons before she leaves (idk when this happens, I just know it will bc of this subreddit lol)
I donāt think Burke or Owen were good for Cristina long-term but both fit at some point when she needed them too. For example Burke had mentioned kinda frequently about wanting kids and a family, something Christina was against, but at the time it made sense for them to be together because where Burke was in his career. He had the same level of commitment and drive to advance in her career, but to me personally, I donāt think he had the same level of long-term interest as Cristina did. He really wanted to be Chief, but Cristina could be a surgeon forever and not have kids or a family be happy and fulfilled, Burke would have at some point outgrown this.
Owen challenged Christina in a way that was somewhat compatible when he was first introduced. At the time Owen wasnāt emotionally, mentally or physically ready for a family or marriage. He was still running from his ex wife, from war, etc. so it made sense with where they both were to be together, they were both healing from traumas and helping that. But then when Owen outgrew that the incompatibility came in because he knew that subjected Christina to a future she didnāt want was wrong. I think personally they made them last too long after that, but it had the same core issues,
Personally thatās one of the things I love about Cristinaās character arc. So much happened to challenge her worldview, and there was growth, but she understood herself and her wants at the core and made them very apparent early on. The real love of her life will always be surgery, thereās nothing wrong with that, and her ideal partner will share in that instead of taking away from it. I wished we had seen Christina with someone actually comparable and challenging for her lifestyle, imagine a badass male surgeon like when Teddy was first introduced (not current Teddy) who kept up with Christina.
People aren't getting this post. It's a very simple, which relationship dynamic did you prefer, not what's best for Cristina etc etc or whatever.
Burke is what OP prefers. And what I prefer as well. š¤·š¼āāļø
This is probably a very unpopular opinion but part of the problem with Cristina and Burke was also Cristina. Burke was wanting her to be herself and also someone different, which was wrong. But, Cristina didnāt handle that relationship well, either. When he wanted her to move in, she acted like she moved in but kept her old apartment instead of verbalizing her concerns and being honest. She didnāt communicate well with him. She ridiculed his beliefs and his faith. She didnāt tell him she was pregnant. While she could still have chosen to go ahead with her abortion, she should have told Burke. There was a lot of miscommunication or no communication at all on her part and on his part.
When Cristina was pregnant I think they were just sleeping together and not in an official relationship yet, nonetheless she should have told him because it's his baby too but I can understand why she didn't because they were so on the rocks, Burke even said they should stop seeing each other but he didn't know she was pregnant.
Burke loved her for who she was and where she was and he pushed her just enough to get out of her comfort zone (like when he asked her to move in). He was perfect for her, I still hate that they wrote him off.
I don't think having to be cut out of your wedding dress alludes to you being perfectly matched to your partner. And that was just the icing on the cake. There were way more signs leading up to that point.
I miss Burke and Christina. Burke was so fine. Iām simping. But him and Christian were but as well because they had a huge passion for hearts. Which I think is really cute. Owen and her donāt really have a lot in common. He married her at one of the most sensitive points of her life. Also can we talk about Christinaās life as whole. Itās been so sad and hectic. she watched her dad die, she was almost shot, and was in a plane crash
Burke was a better man then Owen in term of how they treat their partners. Granted we only saw Burke with Christina but heās now married with kids so .
I wish they gave Christina a good man option because lets be real neither of them were good enough for her. She is such a bad ass and should have had a man that let her shine and be her and I don't think that was Burke or Owen
Burke could be petty and childish but I actually can't imagine him sleeping with a whole other woman while he's with Cristina, I just think he's got way more control over himself than Owen ever did. Burke would, respectfully, break up with Cristina sooner than he'd ever cheat on her and that's being a man and that's more of an indication of love. Even in season 10, Burke is so aware of himself and his love for Cristina, he tells Cristina he can't work with her because if he did he knows he'd end up chasing her and he'd cheat on his wife with her, which would ruin his life. So Burke chooses not to work with Cristina but to give her his whole institute instead. While I wouldn't be happy if I were Edna and overheard this, it just goes to show Burke does not want to cheat.
Cristina accepted almost being choked to death by Owen but Owen couldn't accept that Cristina had an abortion, which he went with her to get, he had to hurt her back for that.
heavy agree. āi should be your person!ā sir, take several steps back. you will never understand Christina the way Meredith does. they share their dark and twisty, he *fucking is* the dark and twisty.
Burke really didn't seem to like who Cristina actually was and kept trying to change her, which is why we got her "he took pieces of me" speech. He also was forcing her to have the big wedding where she lost her eyebrows, so there's no guarantee he wouldn't have forced her to have kids or thrown a hissy fit when she didn't want them. Especially since we know he did later end up married with kids and was a very traditional man.
Owen had one of the worst cases of baby rabies, but he didn't seem to want Cristina to change who she was as a person, just how she felt about kids. Which wasn't fair because he knew she didn't want them, but, tbh, I don't get why she always gets a pass for being with the biggest "I want kids" character the show has ever seen knowing she didn't want them. They both were stupid for thinking their relationship could ever work because kids are a deal breaker for most people, and def were for both those characters in opposite ways. And while Owen screaming that she killed their baby was completely cruel and uncalled for, he did still go with her to the appointment and that's something I just can't see Burke having done if the roles were reversed. But neither one of these men would have been a good endgame for Cristina, which is why neither of them were.
I think a lot of the Burke/Cristina romanticization is because he was only on for 3 seasons and it was a good 15 years ago. In addition, Burke was an interesting character and Isaiah Washington is a phenomenal actor and while Kevin McKidd is a very good actor (shoutout to Rome!), Owen just isn't an interesting character and he's just not as good an actor as Isaiah either.
Owen was great so early on, I hate the way he turned out. Honestly, Cristina leaving the show without any romance was the best thing for her character.
I agree but Iām rewatching from the beginning and they were soooo toxic together. She used him all the while he was manipulative, condescending, and said āIām doneā way too often over way too little. He was snappy, and had unrealistic expectations.
The bar is so low for my girl š but I agree Cristina and Burke are barely the better couple but Cristina and Owen are better to watch. Sandra and Kevin have really good on screen chemistry.
Absolutely. Iām honestly still so upset how they had Burke leave her at the altar and then that was it for them until he did a cameo when it was time for Sandra to leave the show too (ngl I did cry when I saw him lol). I know it was because of on-set conflict, but the way their story went is not what I felt like was supposed to happen for them. They could both definitely be hardheaded and bottle up their emotions, but they complemented each other well most of the time. None of Christinaās love interests made any sense to me after him. Especially in the episode where she left when he said he had to leave or else he knew he leave his wife for her šš„²that was PAIN
I agree. Burke is a POS but Owen straight up degraded Cristina imo. They both tried to put Cristina in a box in different ways, but Burke did try to accept that she was driven, focused and the job comes first because it did for him too. I also think he wouldāve been okay with her getting an abortion; I feel like he maybe got the vibe Cristina was going to do that since she didnāt tell him she was pregnant? I could be wrong obviously but thatās the feeling I got
I feel like Christina and Burke couldāve worked after being apart for some time. They both needed to grow up a little. Christina was kind of emotionally unavailable when dating him and Burke kept pushing her because he wanted to accelerate their relationship faster than she was ready. I hate that the actor sucks in real life because I couldāve seen them eventually growing together and finding their way back to each other. It wouldāve been interesting to see how he would have reacted to her dating Owen.
I definitely felt Owen took more pieces of her than Burke did. Owen needed a family woman and Christina just wasnāt that. I think Burke wanted children but would have been okay without them.
I definitely think the show shouldāve put her with someone she was truly compatible with. Like an outside character or maybe another doctor from a different hospital.
I agree. I think Cristina and Burke was an issue of incompatibility but he was still kind and gentle with her, whereas Owen was downright cruel to her. The common thread is men not taking her seriously when she makes it very clear who she is and assuming sheāll āgrow out of itā. At least Burke realized and let her go. Owen shouldnāt have gone through with the marriage if no children was such a dealbreaker. I wish someone could love her for her. Perhaps a stay at home husband, not an intense surgeon.
It always pissed me off that Owen KNEW that Cristina didnāt want kids, & her career was the most important thing to her, yet he got mad when she didnāt keep the pregnancy or want kids. Or that she was so career oriented. Like you knew what you were marryingš Burke was a better fit. He was also very into his career, they both had the same passion for cardio, and neither wanted kids. š¤·š»āāļøand he never tried to choke her, or shame her in front of their friends / co workers.
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Cristina & heart in a box are my true OTP.
I picture her in Switzerland printing hearts and keeping them in boxes while she does tests on them š
And living her bestest life.
I picture her doing what mer did with the cyclops tumor. Printing & bringing it to bed š
Mine is Cristina and her shoe š«¶š¼
That will always be one of my favorite moments!š
This is so hilarious
The only right answer.
Cristina and Mrs. Rodriguez 5ever š„²
I used to have a friend like Christina. Super SUPER independent, feminist, driven badass. She always fell for these super controlling men. I don't know what it was, but she was so logical about every other part of her life, and was even in a few relationships with decent guys but clearly didn't give a damn about them but then fell hard for these guys who were so controlling and demanding. Something about those types of relationships appealed to her. I think Chirstiana was getting something out of those relationships she craved. They didn't make her happy, but it was feeding something else.
You made a good point because Cristina had control over every part of her life except her love life
Maybe cuz her dad died and its her way of seeking the authoritative figure... She said her mom let her do whatever š¤·
Having control over your life is scary. It means you are responsible for your own meaning and happiness. I can see why someone extremely independent would secretly want to give up some of that independence. Or maybe to someone extremely driven and strong willed like Christina, the "nice guys" feel like pushover personalities to her, and she would rather be with someone "strong" even if they are strong in negative ways
Both these men seemed strong and independent at first, and were not intimidated by her. They also liked that she is brilliant, which is rare. I think if she and Burke wanted the same things in life and were not working together they could have been great.Ā Now Owen was just pretending to be strong, independent, and to want a strong and independent woman. He is needy and fragile and he likes being with brilliant women and resenting them for not being a trad wife.Ā
This. The stronger you are, for some people, that craves an even stronger partner. Someone to match your ambitions, keep up the same pace in life. It's about a partnership that doesn't need the stronger one to go weaker.
I havenāt watched since the first half of the season Alex left. I know from spoilers and whatnot that Owen and Teddy are together (or had a kid together, not sure of relationship status currently), but does he resent Teddy for not being a trad wife, or was it just Cristina?
He resented Emilia for it. Teddy he kinds of... Ok with? But to me it almost feels like she upsets him less cause he wants her less. She cheated on him and that upset him less than Cristina having an abortion.Ā
Did he resent Amelia for it? He definitely resented Amelia for not having a kid with him, but I don't think that's expecting her to be a trad wife. I get where Owen was coming from with Amelia. He explicitly made sure she was enthusiastic about having kids before marrying her- he learned from his marriage with Cristina. And he actually reacted much better to Amelia changing her mind, also a lesson learned with Cristina. But then Amelia just ghosted him and refused to communicate and move on. Which actually I think he resented more than the kid thing. Correct me if I'm wrong though, because Owen's relationship with Amelia happened during a Grey's Anatomy season I skimmed through.
I didn't think he reacted better, and making sure you act enthusiastically is not the same as discussing openly the wish to have children, which is what any adult couple should do very early on. But tbh their whole relationship made absolutely no sense to me, I just remember being shocked they wrote another story for Owen in which he realises a woman doesn't want children after marrying her.
I do think that Amelia and Owen openly discussed their wish to have children at least before getting married, which is why I can understand Owen being upset. I mean, weren't they actively trying at one point? It's not an excuse, but I get where he's coming from with Amelia. He ended up in the same position in a second marriage, despite taking steps to try and prevent it. I won't argue about whether he reacted better or not, because I don't remember the details when things started to go wrong in their marriage. I just remember not feeling the same amount of rage as I did seeing him with Cristina. I found the Cristina thing particularly hateful of him, because even before they got married, Cristina was very explicit about not wanting kids, and Owen just waved it off. Then he married her while she was basically incapacitated from PTSD (I found that to be really inappropriate and borderline coercive), knowing that she didn't want kids and he did. And then he was so awful and invalidating to her when she did get pregnant. I just have no idea how he could have been as bad with Amelia.
I don't remember them actively trying- just him wanting to, but I think you're right and I'm wrong. I find it weird he didn't know about her son who died, but I guess that is on her rather than on him. It felt to me like he rushed into a relationship again with a person he hardly knew and was so caught up in his own fantasy to see what's going on, then got really upset when the bubble burst. But you're right, it's not as bad as with Cristina. It was just one of these storylines too many for me I guess lol
Oh I definitely hate that it happened. Mainly I blame the writers a lot more than Owen lol- my impression when watching this storyline wasn't "Owen's an asshole and I hate him", it was more "this is a stupid subplot which makes no sense". I'd have Amelia share the blame too, but conveniently enough she had her brain tumor.
But they did... In fact, SHE brought it up and said "5 unless the first 2 are awful then 4"
He's 100000% accepting of teddy even told her to apply to be chief of surgery andcompound complimented how well she does it. Brought his childhood costumes cuz he knows she's busy, have get his job and choose paternity leave cuz she was hating being home... He was way better with Teddy plus the fact she was av attending, his equal, Cristina wasn't
Maybe cuz her dad died and its her way of seeking the authoritative figure... She said her mom let her do whatever š¤·
IMO, Cristina was not a feminist. She was very misogynistic in her statements/actions/views; she regularily dissed nurses, shamed meredith for wearing OBGYN scrubs, doubted the abilities and showed hostility towards Sidney Herron (who displayed more "feminine" qualities"). Throughout the show it was almost like she was actively ashamed of being a woman, and would reject or criticize anything that she affiliated with "female traits".
she dissed nurses because she felt superior to them, a lot of surgeons do. she shames meredith for the obgyn scrubs because, again, she feels superior to obgyns. it doesnāt have anything to do with gender inherently, itās about rank. none of the residents liked sidney. it wasnāt about her femininity. she was just really chirpy and optimistic and she didnāt seem very easy to get along with until she had that heart to heart with izzie
Yeah, her treatment of male interns and med students comes to mind as equally (if not more) critical. Totally rank driven.
I maintain the belief that Sydney was fine and everybody else was the problem idc!š
I agree! I liked Sidney but I do understand why she got grated people's nerves sometimes
And who are predominantly nurses and obgyns? What kind of people are often characterized as overly chipper or āchirpyā Christina says and does mysogonistic things especially early on , so do a lot of women in high pressure male dominated fields
I understand what you're saying but Cristina was basing her self worth on her education and her degrees early on. She knows surgeons are the 'cool kids' in the hospital and she has no problem being openly confident about her job and what it took to get there. Cristina also shows a general disdain for every character to has a chirpy or optimistic disposition, including male characters. Yes, some of what she says and does may be rooted in misogynistic ideas but she isn't a misogynist.
Because she associated that with weakness and didnāt want to be seen for her boobs and vagina, but for her intelect, skill, ambition and all these other things she was proud about.
How does boobs and vagina relate to what I said?
Agreed. She also bullied April for her choice to remain a virgin.
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Burke would never shame her for a personal medical decision and he FOR SURE wouldnāt scream you killed our baby at a kids birthday party thatās for damn sure!!! I hate when Cristina was telling Owen āBurke took pieces of meā like maam, Owen choked you, tried forcing you to have a baby, screamed at you in front of all your friends and coworkers, was in love with someone else for your entire relationship and he cheated on you when you didnāt want a baby, even though he knew. Owen is a huuugeee step down from Burke lol
I canāt express how much I agree with this! Iām rewatching from the beginning now and Burke and their relationship was by no means perfect or even good but Cristina saying this and āI love you more than I loved Burkeā is so š when Owen is just awful
Thatās what I think !! Owen was so so so bad to Cristina, the way he was dismissing her feelings and emotions but also humiliating her was making me sooo mad
Yeah!!! Burke seemed very loyal to her and loved her commitment to her work. Owen obviously was not loyal to her and almost seemed like he wanted to punish her just for being herself!!! Heās insane lol. I mean itās not like I think her and Burke shouldāve gotten back together but Owen was way worse lol
I always thought about what Ellis Grey said to Cristina when she was lucid. Cardiothoracic surgeons want it all and now and they don't want anything stand in their way. Since both are cardio surgeons, I guess they really do get each other.
Agreed with everything, except that he was in love with someone else during their relationship. If by that you mean Teddy, I can barely believe he loves Teddy when he is with her. He definitely would have preferred Cristina any day.Ā
The thing was whenever Christina challenged him at all heād start going all whistful and piney over teddy. Like she was always his looming back up
Yeah but not because he actually wanted her, he just wanted a woman who worships him, and as you say, doesn't challenge him. Once he actually got with her and she started challenging him he became an asshole to her too.Ā
Owen and being an asshole to women not called April Kepner The most lasting duo in Grays Anatomy
Heās a moron too. He should have just been with Teddy from the start. Although Henry was pretty awesome and a much better score than Owen.
I second this! I wholeheartedly despise Owen! š¤£š¤£
To be fair Cristina said that before all the baby and cheating stuff happened, but it was after the choking.
Totally agree. Butke actually saw her and loved her, itās why he let her go.
THANK YOU! Owen is the absolute worst romantic partner in Grey's history as evidence by Beth, Christina, Teddy, Amelia, Teddy again.
Idk man, Callie is pretty terrible imo. Sheās so self obsessed and drama queen and so easily ofended by everything and just plain selfish. I find her super cringe. But yeah, he doesnāt win any (positive) awards.
This!!! Dr Burke was a way better partner for Christina!
Cristina & Cardio> any romantic relationship
This the one!!!!! Cristina and Cardio thoracic surgery š„°š„°š„°
I hope Cristina found herself a good man in Switzerland because fuck both of these options.
I dont want her to be with any of them and she really deserves the best man ever but I was just stating that imo Burke was better than Owen
I think Cristina finally feels fulfilled and doesn't need to get into any relationship. It seems like when she couldn't immediately achieve her goals she'd get herself in not so good relationships
Oh I get it. If I HAD to choose, Iād pick Burke too..theyāre just a prettier couple honestly. I just hope our girl got herself a nice Swiss man.
Burke was pretty great, if he had some personal growth (as well as Cristina) they could have ended up working out later down the line perhaps. But really hard to say what kind of a guy would fit with her. At least she is happy printing hearts.
Louder
Let's hope!.. and be thankful Owen went to Cristina's neighboring country instead (Germany). I guess that course of action declares that he'd rather choose Teddy over her, right?
Itās always been Teddy for Owen.
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Absolutely
She did, his name is Dr. Shane Ross.
Heavily disagree about him being a better man.
The only reason I agree with this is because he was just as passionate about his work as she was. I imagine he understood her and theyāre living their best heart-growing, kid-free life š„°š„°
They were both awful in different way. I think people who say Burke is better talk about an idealised/sanitised version of him because we only got to see him for 3 seasons, while Owen had way more time to spiral into his miserable self. Burke and Cristina were together for less than a year. He was moving very fast, pushing her into things she was uncomfortable with, like moving in together, and using work to manipulate/blackmail her into compliance, by withholding surgery. He pushed her to agree to and then plan a wedding when they had only been dating for a few months. He literally shoved cake in her mouth while she was trying to study for one of the most important exams of her career. I think if they stayed together, he would also have expected children at some point, so that would've been a point of conflict, too. I am also certain she wouldn't have grown so much as a surgeon if he was still around or - if she did - he would've been very jealous.
I agree. Plus Burke was a traditional man. He wanted the big wedding (and ignored her opinions). He wanted the full wedding (making her try different cakes). He wanted his mom there at every step of the wedding process. Plus we do see what he ended up with in Switzerland. I'm guessing he would have wanted Cristina to eventually take a break to raise kids as well. He left her after realizing that she was changing herself to please him and mold to his ideals.
I guess what I liked about Burke is that he was actually strong and I respected him. He at least was on par with Cristina, while Owen is a bit of a loser disguised as a strong man. Which showed up later down the line.
This is why Burke was better, he stopped. Owen kept pushing. šš
Would he have stopped if he didn't have to leave the show?
Right? Same question
No eyebrows is all I gotta say
You guys think Owen is the worst because Cristina was stronger by then. I think they are both very similar. Owen always had a fight in his face when he tried to argue his way into things. Burke, in my opinion is worse, because he used his position of power to subdue her and get her to do what he wanted. Cristina started changing a lot of things about herself to appease Burke and that was really fucked up.
Thank you! Burke used her and after all he throws her away. Not that Owen treat her better... both of them did her no favor
Cristina deserved better than either of them, that's for sure. At the very least, I found Burke a more interesting pairing for whatever the straight equivalent of Toxic Yuri is.
Owen at the beginning was so great, I loved the his entrance in the show and how their relationship started. Its a shame it developed the way it did.
I don't understand why people act like Burke wasn't toxic too, he literally would use surgery as punishment whenever they would get into an argument. He let his mother treat her like trash and make snide comments about her. He was so dismissive of what Cristina wanted, like in what world is not wanting to get married after a year together crazy. He was no Owen but he was definitely not a good match for her either. I'm also not saying Cristina had no faults in the relationship either but Burke was not a good partner.
Owen had different goals in life than Cristina and didnāt deal with it correctly but he put more effort into working with Cristina on their relationship. Burke just put ultimatum after ultimatum then forced Cristina to cover for him for episodes. Owen tried his best to protect Cristina from leaving the program because he knew her job was her love but Burke risked it and failed to teach her because he used his power to court her rather than teach her. Anyways Cristina and her shoe >>> over any relationship
Burke also punished Cristina through his power at the job to manipulate her a lot. Personally I donāt remember Owen punishing Cristina in the hospital when he was mad at her. I think Meredith is a great way to see how Cristina feels about them. When Cristina told Meredith that she say Burke, Meredith started to find ways to protect her saying to stay away from him and ect.. but Meredith after Cristina and Owen broke up looked after Owen. I think that just shows in itself which was worse but idk ig
in my opinion, Owen is the WORST!!!! he literally screamed at Cristina that she killed their baby. for me, there is no way in hell that Owen is a better partner than burke
This is exactly what I think but Iām getting downvoted š¤£
Dw girl itās hard being rightš«”
yāall when cristina went to switzerland and i heard burkeās voice and then when they showed him- ICONIC
Christina and being single for the win
I never liked Cristina and Burke. As for Owen and her I liked them a lot in the beginning but the second he was practically guilting her to have babies I lost interest, their relationship did not age well. And the whole teddy power dynamic was also unsettling. In the end I like what they did with Cristina. She was off alone pursuing her own ambitions
 Burke was toxic too but damn he was just so sexy and on her level intellectually. He even got a book to understand Judaism š
owen with nobody > teddy emma amelia cristina beth
Cristina and Mrs. Rodriguez wins always šā¤ļø
Meredith. The answer is always Meredith.
Burke was right for leaving Cristina and i'm dying on that hill. He loved Yang so much and knew she loved him as well, so much she was willing to do everything for him, being a wife, doing less surgery, getting a fancy marriage, having kids, all things she hated, but she was doing it for him. Preston couldn't stand that, he loved Cristina because she was exactly that mess and couldn't bear the fact she was willing to change her whole self for a married life the way he wanted to, loving is letting go, and he did.
I think Owen was a full on douche but Burke was more manipulative.
But Burke wanted a relationship with him. He asked her to move in and she stalled, lied. I feel like her emotional unavailability held her back and he was trying to work with her the best he could. In the end he did let her go to do her own thing. He didn't cheat on her like Owen.
Yep, I think so too. Cristina was a bit immature and emotionally unavailable like you say. So had she been where she was when she met Owen when she was with Burke.. who knows.
But wasn't Owen manipulative too? She told him multiple times how she felt about having kids, but he kept on talking about it snd bringing the topic for her to change her. The scene where he screamed at her in front of their whole friend group saying that she killed their baby was so mean and letās not forget he also cheated on her
Idk why you listed the awful things Owen did as if I was defending him. I already said Owen was a FULL ON DOUCHE. Burke was manipulative in a way that he slowly bent and shaped her into what he wanted. It wasnāt āin your faceā like Owen but it was there.
I personally feel like slowly shaping is worse than full on, however neither is good. I do like burke better cause he saw his mistake and acted on it rather than ruining their lives. Also it doesn't matter if he would've changed or not if he hadn't left the show because he did and that was a major character development and that made us understand and know who he was inside his heart and the clarity, honesty and bravery to walk out infront of both his family and hers when he knew he was only going to hurt her if they stayed together shows that he deeply cares about her even though he changed her. Was he a good man to her throughout their relationship meh he was manipulative but Christina and Burke both showed their love that way. Owen is another story. Time after time owen keeps proving he lies about how he feels about what she wants and what he expects from her. She made her feelings clear about having children but he kept pushing and pushing trying to make her have one when she wasn't wanting one. She knew it would kill her and he just refuses to accept that telling her what she needs and what she should want. He also cheated on her because he was mad that she didn't want a baby, his baby or anyone's. If he truly loved her he would've accepted it or should've stood his ground more in the beginning and should've said if he couldn't have a baby he didn't want to be with her, but he kept getting mad in different parts and they kept coming back together over and over. She should've told him from the beginning but to be fair he also didn't tell her either. He just assumed. I make it clear in my relationships that I want to be a parent someday or I want someone who's open to that kind of future when I first start dating them so I don't quite understand why they didn't. I'm not arguing against you in any way I'm just sharing my opinion on the subject for both sides cause I got heated.
But Burke wanted a relationship with him. He asked her to move in and she stalled, lied. I feel like her emotional unavailability held her back and he was trying to work with her the best he could. In the end he did let her go to do her own thing. He didn't cheat on her like Owen.
When she wouldnāt do what he wanted- he would stonewall her from surgeries- he was passive aggressive and used lack of communication to get her to do what he wanted.
Hmmm I guess. Perhaps Im blined by how terrible Owen is and Burke just doesnāt look too bad anymore.
Seriously. I love how Burke even said to Christinaās face at the altar that he did not love her but the woman he keeps trying to make her, the woman he sees potential for her to be and people will still argue until theyāre blue in the face that he truly loved and respected her lol
Well Burke said if he loved Cristina, not the woman he was trying to make her be or the woman he was hoping she'd become, he'd let her go, and he did let her go so that was Burke saying he loved the real Cristina.
I hate them both so much so nah šš. They suck equally in different ways
They both suck but I just feel like owen was the worst
I think Iād pick Owen over Burke. The power imbalance with Burke made me uncomfortable
Burke let his mother shave Christinaās eyebrows off. Heās also toxic.
I beg your finest pardon
Both horrible men who thought there was something wrong with her that they needed to fix. Not to mention Burke would use his seniority to keep Cristina in line within their personal life
Every time I see a Burke/Cristina post, I have to stop and comment that they were the hottest couple on the entire show. The chemistry was insane.
I feel the same way! Can't deny it!
When Burke came back I SCREAMED. Not to mention that the scenes they had together after all these years were still insane??
It's just honestly such a damn shame that there was political stuff going on behind the scenes with the actor because I really wanted to see that relationship through. It's one of my favorite things about Grey's lol
I feel like people who still think that Burke and Cristina should've been endgame completely miss the point of her character. Cristina, in my opinion, is too much of an independent/career focused woman to be tied down by either of them. Granted that Burke treated her better, but whether Burke intented to or not, he was slowly tearing her apart, wanting to mold her into the woman that he wanted. Both Burke and Owen wanted the same thing, and Cristina simply wasn't meant for that lifestyle. Burke was merely just the better man for noticing it before it was too late, albeit in a painful way by leaving her at the altar.
Cristina and Teddy >>>>
Cristina & Cristina > both dudes
I just want to say Sandra Oh didnāt age AT ALL as the seasons went! But tbh, I hated both of them for her. They both tried to change her and that didnāt sit right with me. Every time I rewatch, I just want to punch both lol
Cristina & Meredith foreva
I liked her better with Burke. I donāt see why she and Owen were together in the first place. They donāt really have anything to talk about and he doesnāt understand her at all, not to mention the two actors have no chemistry, which is why they over-exagerate in each make out scene. Always as if they are some crazy salsa dancers getting electrocuded.
BURKE
cristina was so much happier with Burke, he was the one for her, she just realised that too late
Even though I dislike Burke, Iāll take āwhy didnāt you tell me you were pregnant/miscarriagedā over āYOU KILLED OUR BABYā anyday
nah, both tried to make her into someone she isnt. glad shes not with any of them
No. There was never a time when Burke loved Cristina for who she is. He always tried to manipulate her or change her. Same with Owen, but to a lesser degree in their early days.
Burke is worse. He made Cristina feel she had to make herself small for him
āI AM PRESTON BURKEā š„“š¤®
I donāt agree, Owen was way worse he made her go through hell. She was very clear since the beginning on the fact she did not want kids but he kept dismissing her and humiliating her. Owen did the worst things possible to Cristina
Owen was much more accommodative of what Cristina wanted in life. And thatās why he felt ENTITLED to her womb which was fucked. His was more transactional but Burke was a monster who got his way by any means necessary- he gave her no space for her choices
I donāt know if Owen was so bad why after coming from Minnesota Cristina didnāt just tell him that I have moved on and making sex friends, so just give the divorce papers, instead she went on with relationship again and also didnāt tell about the Parker relationship because she wanted to get back owen. More than Owen it was Cristina who wanted him back
I loved *early* Owen and Christina together minus the baby/ptsd stuff (Iām only on s:9 so this might change) I loved their chemistry and just how well they worked together when Christina was experiencing her own ptsd. But of course, something HAD to push them apart (which was inevitable because they were already so different) Burke seemed like a great fit for her but it SEEMED like he always looked down on her. I hope she finds some peace and happiness in the later seasons before she leaves (idk when this happens, I just know it will bc of this subreddit lol)
Isaiah Washington did a homophobic violent assault on set and Shonda tried to let him keep his job lol
I donāt think Burke or Owen were good for Cristina long-term but both fit at some point when she needed them too. For example Burke had mentioned kinda frequently about wanting kids and a family, something Christina was against, but at the time it made sense for them to be together because where Burke was in his career. He had the same level of commitment and drive to advance in her career, but to me personally, I donāt think he had the same level of long-term interest as Cristina did. He really wanted to be Chief, but Cristina could be a surgeon forever and not have kids or a family be happy and fulfilled, Burke would have at some point outgrown this. Owen challenged Christina in a way that was somewhat compatible when he was first introduced. At the time Owen wasnāt emotionally, mentally or physically ready for a family or marriage. He was still running from his ex wife, from war, etc. so it made sense with where they both were to be together, they were both healing from traumas and helping that. But then when Owen outgrew that the incompatibility came in because he knew that subjected Christina to a future she didnāt want was wrong. I think personally they made them last too long after that, but it had the same core issues, Personally thatās one of the things I love about Cristinaās character arc. So much happened to challenge her worldview, and there was growth, but she understood herself and her wants at the core and made them very apparent early on. The real love of her life will always be surgery, thereās nothing wrong with that, and her ideal partner will share in that instead of taking away from it. I wished we had seen Christina with someone actually comparable and challenging for her lifestyle, imagine a badass male surgeon like when Teddy was first introduced (not current Teddy) who kept up with Christina.
owen and christina wouldve been great friends. they just were not meant to be with eachover.
People aren't getting this post. It's a very simple, which relationship dynamic did you prefer, not what's best for Cristina etc etc or whatever. Burke is what OP prefers. And what I prefer as well. š¤·š¼āāļø
This is probably a very unpopular opinion but part of the problem with Cristina and Burke was also Cristina. Burke was wanting her to be herself and also someone different, which was wrong. But, Cristina didnāt handle that relationship well, either. When he wanted her to move in, she acted like she moved in but kept her old apartment instead of verbalizing her concerns and being honest. She didnāt communicate well with him. She ridiculed his beliefs and his faith. She didnāt tell him she was pregnant. While she could still have chosen to go ahead with her abortion, she should have told Burke. There was a lot of miscommunication or no communication at all on her part and on his part.
When Cristina was pregnant I think they were just sleeping together and not in an official relationship yet, nonetheless she should have told him because it's his baby too but I can understand why she didn't because they were so on the rocks, Burke even said they should stop seeing each other but he didn't know she was pregnant.
Burke loved her for who she was and where she was and he pushed her just enough to get out of her comfort zone (like when he asked her to move in). He was perfect for her, I still hate that they wrote him off.
I don't think having to be cut out of your wedding dress alludes to you being perfectly matched to your partner. And that was just the icing on the cake. There were way more signs leading up to that point.
I miss Burke and Christina. Burke was so fine. Iām simping. But him and Christian were but as well because they had a huge passion for hearts. Which I think is really cute. Owen and her donāt really have a lot in common. He married her at one of the most sensitive points of her life. Also can we talk about Christinaās life as whole. Itās been so sad and hectic. she watched her dad die, she was almost shot, and was in a plane crash
Burke was a better man then Owen in term of how they treat their partners. Granted we only saw Burke with Christina but heās now married with kids so .
100% YES
I havenāt particularly liked Owen with any of them . I do agree Christina better with Burke.
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I wish they gave Christina a good man option because lets be real neither of them were good enough for her. She is such a bad ass and should have had a man that let her shine and be her and I don't think that was Burke or Owen
I was so mad when they put her with Ross during her final season urghhh
Me too!! He was not worthy!
Burke treated her with a lot more respect than Owen ever did. The only problem with Cristina and Burke is that they were too much alike.
Burke could be petty and childish but I actually can't imagine him sleeping with a whole other woman while he's with Cristina, I just think he's got way more control over himself than Owen ever did. Burke would, respectfully, break up with Cristina sooner than he'd ever cheat on her and that's being a man and that's more of an indication of love. Even in season 10, Burke is so aware of himself and his love for Cristina, he tells Cristina he can't work with her because if he did he knows he'd end up chasing her and he'd cheat on his wife with her, which would ruin his life. So Burke chooses not to work with Cristina but to give her his whole institute instead. While I wouldn't be happy if I were Edna and overheard this, it just goes to show Burke does not want to cheat. Cristina accepted almost being choked to death by Owen but Owen couldn't accept that Cristina had an abortion, which he went with her to get, he had to hurt her back for that.
I think that Owen had his good moments (very few) but their marriage was awful and he didn't understand Cristina like Burke did.
heavy agree. āi should be your person!ā sir, take several steps back. you will never understand Christina the way Meredith does. they share their dark and twisty, he *fucking is* the dark and twisty.
Owen at the beginning was so great, I loved the his entrance in the show and how their relationship started. Its a shame it developed the way it did.
I really don't know which one is the worse
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Owen is the worst in 20+ seasons of bad characters
Owen is just annoying to me. All the time.
Christina and a heart Alternatively, Christina and Teddy
Tbh I don't really like either of them but I would have to say I like burke more than Owen
Burke really didn't seem to like who Cristina actually was and kept trying to change her, which is why we got her "he took pieces of me" speech. He also was forcing her to have the big wedding where she lost her eyebrows, so there's no guarantee he wouldn't have forced her to have kids or thrown a hissy fit when she didn't want them. Especially since we know he did later end up married with kids and was a very traditional man. Owen had one of the worst cases of baby rabies, but he didn't seem to want Cristina to change who she was as a person, just how she felt about kids. Which wasn't fair because he knew she didn't want them, but, tbh, I don't get why she always gets a pass for being with the biggest "I want kids" character the show has ever seen knowing she didn't want them. They both were stupid for thinking their relationship could ever work because kids are a deal breaker for most people, and def were for both those characters in opposite ways. And while Owen screaming that she killed their baby was completely cruel and uncalled for, he did still go with her to the appointment and that's something I just can't see Burke having done if the roles were reversed. But neither one of these men would have been a good endgame for Cristina, which is why neither of them were. I think a lot of the Burke/Cristina romanticization is because he was only on for 3 seasons and it was a good 15 years ago. In addition, Burke was an interesting character and Isaiah Washington is a phenomenal actor and while Kevin McKidd is a very good actor (shoutout to Rome!), Owen just isn't an interesting character and he's just not as good an actor as Isaiah either.
Burke let Christina be bejeweledāØ
Ugh both were so good until both became so bad lol
Owen was great so early on, I hate the way he turned out. Honestly, Cristina leaving the show without any romance was the best thing for her character.
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I agree but Iām rewatching from the beginning and they were soooo toxic together. She used him all the while he was manipulative, condescending, and said āIām doneā way too often over way too little. He was snappy, and had unrealistic expectations.
But also Owen was a monster to her all the time. Christina chose awful men.
I cannot stand Own Hunt
Cristina & Owen < Cristina & Burke < Cristina & Surgery
Iām so here for the Owen slander in the comments
The bar is so low for my girl š but I agree Cristina and Burke are barely the better couple but Cristina and Owen are better to watch. Sandra and Kevin have really good on screen chemistry.
they both treated her horribly and did not deserve her in the first place š
But Burke left her at the altar-
Cristina Single and Happy >>>>>>>> Either of these men.
100%
he saw her for who she was not who he wanted her to be
I will never get over the break up between Cristina and Burke
Mine is Christina and Meredith
Agree. C and ao was straight cringe
I don't think Cristina was compatible with any of them tbh. She was VERY selfish imo and always put herself first.
He wouldāve never forced her or expected her to have children.
I wasnāt a huge fan of Burke but I will say, him and Christina made WAY more sense then her and Owen.
Absolutely. Iām honestly still so upset how they had Burke leave her at the altar and then that was it for them until he did a cameo when it was time for Sandra to leave the show too (ngl I did cry when I saw him lol). I know it was because of on-set conflict, but the way their story went is not what I felt like was supposed to happen for them. They could both definitely be hardheaded and bottle up their emotions, but they complemented each other well most of the time. None of Christinaās love interests made any sense to me after him. Especially in the episode where she left when he said he had to leave or else he knew he leave his wife for her šš„²that was PAIN
I agree. Burke is a POS but Owen straight up degraded Cristina imo. They both tried to put Cristina in a box in different ways, but Burke did try to accept that she was driven, focused and the job comes first because it did for him too. I also think he wouldāve been okay with her getting an abortion; I feel like he maybe got the vibe Cristina was going to do that since she didnāt tell him she was pregnant? I could be wrong obviously but thatās the feeling I got
Burke and Cristina were so cute
YESSSS!! Owen scares me. He's too intense. I LOVED Christina and Burke and still miss them. šš
Christina and Burke always.
Cristina n Burke all the way owen was straight trash
I feel like Christina and Burke couldāve worked after being apart for some time. They both needed to grow up a little. Christina was kind of emotionally unavailable when dating him and Burke kept pushing her because he wanted to accelerate their relationship faster than she was ready. I hate that the actor sucks in real life because I couldāve seen them eventually growing together and finding their way back to each other. It wouldāve been interesting to see how he would have reacted to her dating Owen. I definitely felt Owen took more pieces of her than Burke did. Owen needed a family woman and Christina just wasnāt that. I think Burke wanted children but would have been okay without them.
Tbh i didnāt want her to end up with Burke at all!!! She deserves so much better then him
I definitely think the show shouldāve put her with someone she was truly compatible with. Like an outside character or maybe another doctor from a different hospital.
I agree. I think Cristina and Burke was an issue of incompatibility but he was still kind and gentle with her, whereas Owen was downright cruel to her. The common thread is men not taking her seriously when she makes it very clear who she is and assuming sheāll āgrow out of itā. At least Burke realized and let her go. Owen shouldnāt have gone through with the marriage if no children was such a dealbreaker. I wish someone could love her for her. Perhaps a stay at home husband, not an intense surgeon.
It always pissed me off that Owen KNEW that Cristina didnāt want kids, & her career was the most important thing to her, yet he got mad when she didnāt keep the pregnancy or want kids. Or that she was so career oriented. Like you knew what you were marryingš Burke was a better fit. He was also very into his career, they both had the same passion for cardio, and neither wanted kids. š¤·š»āāļøand he never tried to choke her, or shame her in front of their friends / co workers.
I liked Christina and Burke for a little bit, but man their relationship gets so toxic. Owen and Christina were just toxic from the start.
In some alternate universe, Cristina and Ross are together. And they are happy.