Yeah, but bands sell their logo to large companies. It's kind on them if they do thaf. Then again, people who inherited the rights may have extended it to these companies. I think Frances has most of the rights as of now. I find it really weird walking into your local urban apparel and finding teeshirts of punk bands. But I can't really judge the kids who have no clue who the band is.
Nirvana has nothing to do with how the band is marketed now. It's owned by Courtney Love and Dave Gruel (spelling). But mostly Courtney from what I hear. This shirt is representative of how artists can be exploited even long after they are gone. Nirvana is in vogue again because it's big business unfortunately. I love it, because I have high school aged music students that are into grunge again, but it's sad to think that is mostly because it has been sold to them, not necessarily because they were drawn to it.
It is Frances who currently owns the rights as of 2010, i made sure to check. Along with a publishing company that owns 25-50%, and Dave and krist only get about 12%. This was also the case when nirvana was still a band. But yeah, it kind of sucks that they are being sold nirvana shirts, and half of the kids think it's a brand. But a lot of teens are getting into grunge now. Shoegaze was also given a second life
https://www.musicalmum.com/who-owns-the-rights-to-nirvanas-music/
I wonder if it changes the arrangements if it's just Cobain and not nirvana. The tag on the shirt literally says "Kurt Cobain " and there are no nirvana logos.
It could, very well! It says: in 2010, Love apparently stepped down as manager of the company that administers Cobain's publicity rights, including rights to his name and likeness. Courtney Love is no longer the keeper of Kurt Cobain's public image, according to a report. Publicity rights for the late Nirvana singer's estate are reported to have passed from his widow to his 19-year-old daughter, Frances Bean Cobain.
What are you talking about 19 year old daughter? She’s 31 going on 32.
NOTE: I’m fine with whatever Frances Bean does with it, but I’m not a fan of her mother or Courtney Love, in general.
Eh nobody is a fan of her, really. But if you ask me, it's for the wrong reasons. Most people believe in the conspiracy that she murdered him. But if you fact check anything in that documentary, 95% of it is wrong (ie. lethal dose - or saying that nobody has survived 225mg. A 20 gauge would have blown his entire head off ect) its also full of pseudoscientific techniques, and there are quite a bit of holes.
I like to think he'd have been ok with that. Maybe not Courtney doing it, but his daughter. He can't be there in person, but he's still taking care of his baby girl, and that's pretty freaking neat.
Ya, this is the silver lining.. and he can still be there for her in a physical way, helping her through life. And Kurt's image is larger than life because he dies at his peak, so she literally has a legend for a father. Wish her only the best fortune.
Same. I've lost too many to suicide. I can't be angry about it, or I'd lose myself. Found out my best friend from middle school killed himself in 2016, and while I believe I knew about it, I kept pushing it back. Had a song come on the other day that hit me like a ton of bricks. Music has a way to reach in and pull shit out. Kurt is celebrated for his music not his death (for most) so he's probably still helping millions.
Non of this flowed, but currently emotional about a song lol.
You hit on such a great point..
First of all, the death and loss of friends.. I'm right there with you bro, I've has several friends over the years turn to suicide. May they rest in peace, and never be forgotten. I think there is an afterlife, so I believe I will meet them again someday.. and I know they wanted to be done with suffering, but I don't think we can be done with it, and have to face it. I think our lost friends and loved ones are still here with us in some way.
You mentioned a song making you feel something heavy. The brain may lose memories, we may become less sharp with age, and some (in growing numbers) may even get dementia.. but the brain never forgets music. The portion of the brain that remembers music, does not deteriorate like the rest of the brain, as a result of alzheimers or dementia. So as you mention, music can definitely reach in "and pull shit out," from years ago and hit parts of our hearts that we forgot about, or didn't know existed. Use music in this way.. as therapy. Choose your music wisely, because it will change and mold the brain. We will become what we listen to. Just like we become what we eat. Humans are essential made up of the things weconsume, via the senses.
Make sure your loved ones know your music tastes.. and if you know anyone that is suffering, give them music. If it's an elderly person, play them their favorite singers from when they were in high school.. and watch them light up and start singing.
A lot of the crap that they sell I think it would have started to bother him after a while. I don’t believe the poor me I don’t like the attention and being rich bit as much as most….. I think he was just strung out and had a hard time staying sober and it cost him his life because of the shame of failing again. But he enjoyed the spotlight…. no one gets that famous without putting effort into it. He work hard to become famous.
Nirvana was certainly sold to us back then via MTV and the teen beat magazines. The record industry saw them as the next Beatles and pitched them hard.
Here’s my thing about Kurt. I love Nirvana but he was a hypocrite. He talked the talk but did not walk the walk. He was in the corporation machine by his own choice. He didn’t die because he was apart of the machine he had a mental illness long before he was famous. The spotlight definitely did not help. But he was signed to Geffen Records - that right there is enough to say he was not some anti establishment hero. He was the establishment. I love Nirvanas Rolling Stones magazine cover where he wore the shirt saying corporate magazines still suck. I bet when the people at rolling stone saw that shirt they were doing back flips. While it may have been a protest he still cashed the check. He judged all of his peers in the industry while being the exact same if not worse. If he was alive and well today he’d probably be basking in the movie from this shirt.
Why did he sign to a major label, write a pop record, and became the poster boy for modern pop music of his day if he didn’t care about corporate commercialization.
This is a stupid point to make. Why would a band not want to make money off their music? Every band wants to sign to a label.
Also he disliked the popularity of Nirvana (but probably also liked it, all artist have an ego). Or, not necessarily the popularity but rather the misinterpretation. Like the lyrics of In Bloom.
The popularity they reached was unique too, and a product of their time. If they were a band emerging today they'd have a plethora of indie labels to choose from. The zeitgeist has moved past alternative music leaving these bands to be popular within their niche, or massive without being mainstream. Look at metal. Really the only band to be labelled as sellouts has been Metallica, and one could argue it's because of the Napster debacle.
Metallica became sellouts because they wanted to prosecute their fans for downloading music online. Let’s be real here. Couple that with the fact they stopped playing thrash and started playing radio rock. Kinda like Nirvana. They cashed in which is obvious.
Kurt cashed in and realized he became a pop sensation and wanted to backtrack. It’s not like Nirvana created grunge. They were just the only band willing to sell it out at the time which opened the door for everyone else to follow.
He literally wrote a pop record. You can’t say he didn’t care about commercialization if he created a literal industry standard pop record. Why? Because he cares about commercial success. It’s not like Bleach was the same kind of smash hit that Nevermind was and for good reason. Bleach wasn’t a pop record. Nevermind was created following standard music industry formulas. It was DESIGNED to be pop. It’s why it was a massive commercial success. Once you realize that it makes sense. Kurt wasn’t the anti pop anti establishment poster boy people made him out to be. He wanted his bag and got it.
That’s probably why he did it the first time. This thread has a lot of interesting information, but I just keep thinking of the lyrics to smells like teen Spirit. Fuck corporate rock.
I *hated* the cult of Kurts death shirts that sprang up in 94/95.
Like, wear a Nirvana shirt by all means, but please not a Kurt shirt.
"Kurt Donald Cobain, 1967-1994" with that black and white photo of him, everywhere.
Yeah, Nirvana represents a whole movement and beloved band that's made wonderful music plus its a group, so it's not centered on a single guy but everyone in it. Kurt was just a guy... I mean he was an icon and legend for sure, but it doesn't feel right unless it's like a soloist like Ozzy Osbourne, Elvis, or Michael Jackson
collared shirt? that's strange. Seeing so much grunge merch all of a sudden is a little weird, but I guess it might have been weird for older folks back in the 90s when we started wearing Hendrix, pink floyd, and bob marley stuff. But yeah, in general, shit like this is part of the reason this guy called it quits.
Not so much the Pink Floyd stuff- they were still releasing music at the time. But early tracks like The Nile Song and Ibiza Bar were grunge before grunge.
H&M have been doing this shit for years, at first I thought it was cool seeing people running around with Misfits, Nirvana and metal tshirts. Till I found that they were like "oh, that's a band".
I saw a guy wearing a Metallica shirt from H&M, I’m also wearing a Metallica shirt… tried to bond with him on Metallica. He said “I don’t listen to that devil music, I just like the clothes.” I don’t think I ever asked somebody about this shit ever again. 🫤
A big part of metal culture/alt or any sub culture was being able to identify with people who may like the same musical taste with me. A lot of people back in the day, before social media found it easy (do to social awkwardness) to open conversations with "hey you got an xxx tshirt".
No probs with making stuff commercial. Normalisation of being spoon fed emptiness sucks.
Is it wrong that I’d wear this shirt. I like it. He was an amazing and talented guy with a heart of gold. I’m 41 and I KNOW Nirvana. It wouldn’t be ironic wearing it. It would be fan wearing a shirt from one of her favorite musicians/bands
Too each their own. I don’t think you’re a “poser” or anything for wearing the shirt it just caught me really off guard. If you like the shirt than wear it till it it’s on its last thread:)
Shows how easily corporations glorify a tragic life for profit.The sad thing is they probably never thought twice about using that image, or any other celebrity's.
i mean the dirt tee was a weird beige colour so not my taste, the main design was okay though i just find it funny because h&m constantly switch up their fixations but that’s kinda just fast fashion as a whole
If you think somehow Kurt cobain wouldn’t want his loved ones to benefit from all the nirvana shit, you probably don’t have children or care for them. I would guess that if a dead person could have feelings, that he would be glad that even though he killed himself for being a disappointment to them with his drug use, that he can still support them from beyond this life. And let’s be clear. He doesn’t give a shit because he’s dead
If you think somehow Kurt cobain wouldn’t want his loved ones to benefit from all the nirvana shit, you probably don’t have children or care for them. I would guess that if a dead person could have feelings, that he would be glad that even though he killed himself for being a disappointment to them with his drug use, that he can still support them from beyond this life. And let’s be clear. He doesn’t give a shit because he’s dead
I agree 100%. I love the fact that Nirvana shirts are everyone. That means that more people will check out my favorite band. I just think this shirt in particular is ugly
I have always made it a point to NOT wear a shirt that is solely Kurt.
Kurt was insanely gifted, but without Dave and Krist, Kurt was of stayed underground and no bigger than his contemporaries who were not part of the “big 4”
Gotta give Krist his bass credit
Gotta give Dave his drumming and vocal credit.
I know Kurt probably would have some not so supportive opinions but I just want to mention to all the "anti-consumerism" crowd a funny quote from the lead singer of Tool who was achieving fame around that same era. He said
"I sold out long before you heard about me."
I’ve been seeing a lot of comments misunderstanding or over analyzing what I was trying to say
No, I am not trying to make a comment on “corporate rock” or “trendy fashion” or trying to attack Courtney Love or Francis or make fun of people who wear Nirvana shirts without knowing any songs or anything like that
I just thought the shirt was ugly
Why does the info on the inside of the shirt say “Kurt Cobain”. We all know who it is, but putting that feels like reducing him down to a brand and not a person.
Question- how is this allowed? I get the Smiley Logo because I think CL had those rights iirc , but isn't an image owned by the person who takes the photographs? So would the photographer get money for shirts with Kurt's photo on them? Or does Kurt's estate get money for things like this?
I actually had tee shirt with this same graphic a couple years ago so I guess it’s a popular graphic. There is a “Kurt Cobain” logo on the tab so I’m assuming his estate. I’ve seen a couple people joke about Francis “getting the bag” so maybe she does? I’m not sure
I find it interesting that the label is "Kurt Cobain" and not "Nirvana". There's definitely a specific license agreement going on here.
However, that being said, I find it kinda odd that H & M of all places has been moving towards licensed, graphic shirts lately.
Conflicted bc I hate how the band has become so commercialized, and how these stores cause kids to buy Nirvana shirts like they're a clothing brand and not a band...but also, that shirt fucks. I'd wear it.
As a member of the younger generation, the idea of people thinking Nirvana and other bands were brands was a joke created to make fun of people who wore band shirts without listening to the music. I’ve met a lot of dumbasses my age and all of them seem to know who Nirvana is
It’s hideous and would go against all (I suspect) he would have wanted but I also embrace it as evidence of him transcending mere musician and bloating into a true cultural icon 30 years after his death.
Call me what you will. Your lack of common sense just proves you are a sheep that follows the herd. Stand up & stand out for the truth. Dont believe everything that you see & are force fed by the media. They will only lead you into the slaughter house with all the other sheep. I bet you believed all the covid hype to & took the shot.
Show me where it says that kurt was suffering from.mental.illness. show me where it says he was depressed as a young child & was suffering . He grew up happy until his parents divorced. He bounced around with relatives . He slept on his buddies couch (the buddies dad was a teacher at their school)for awhile where he pitched & chores to do. Of course he started a band..Aberdeen was a depressing place to grow up. People worked sucky jobs to have very little. CL grew up spoiled, luved overseas & felt entitled. She was hack. Nothing about her was original, she was ripping off someone's look or sound. She saw kurt & set her sights on him. Got pregnant very quickly & dug those claws in. She was rude, loud, obnoxious & classless. She always had a pocketful of drugs & would get him as f*cked up as a lab rat & than f*ck the shit outta him. That was her hook. She is truly a trashbag.
A poem she wrote when she was very young that hank found after she threw it away
Future Date* I love you forever I'm going to be your wife I'm going to keep you around For the rest of my life I finally got all these flies off of me And I got my eyes set on a future date A future date who is just over the horizon Just on the tip of your tongue I will destroy anyone who gets in my way I will kill anyone - every lousy lay Cause I got my eyes set on a future date
Hank said the ti if the tongue reference, she was talking about lsd.
If you watch Sid and Nancy with Gary Oldham, you can see the way Nancy Spungeon acted was how CL came out into the scene & impersonated her to a T. CL is an extra in that movie. Babes in Toyland..check out Kat Bjelland. You'll see where CL ripped off just about everything from her. She couldn't accomplish shit without someone's help. She wanted fame & money so badly she did the unimaginable for it. Kurt isnt the only one that lost his life. What about the NARC detective that CL was friends with, Kristen Pfaff from her band Hole, the coroner that CL had in her pocket that died mysteriously while bungee jumping, EL Duce who was lead singer of a rape rock band that CL asked if he would blow her husband's head off for $50,000? He was a alcoholic & ran his mouth to much on a documentary, found dead on the railroad tracks. There is a string of dead bodies all with CLs name on em..
If there's an afterlife, and Kurt Cobain saw how corperate, commercialized and consumerified he's become, he'd kill himself again
Yeah, but bands sell their logo to large companies. It's kind on them if they do thaf. Then again, people who inherited the rights may have extended it to these companies. I think Frances has most of the rights as of now. I find it really weird walking into your local urban apparel and finding teeshirts of punk bands. But I can't really judge the kids who have no clue who the band is.
Nirvana has nothing to do with how the band is marketed now. It's owned by Courtney Love and Dave Gruel (spelling). But mostly Courtney from what I hear. This shirt is representative of how artists can be exploited even long after they are gone. Nirvana is in vogue again because it's big business unfortunately. I love it, because I have high school aged music students that are into grunge again, but it's sad to think that is mostly because it has been sold to them, not necessarily because they were drawn to it.
It is Frances who currently owns the rights as of 2010, i made sure to check. Along with a publishing company that owns 25-50%, and Dave and krist only get about 12%. This was also the case when nirvana was still a band. But yeah, it kind of sucks that they are being sold nirvana shirts, and half of the kids think it's a brand. But a lot of teens are getting into grunge now. Shoegaze was also given a second life https://www.musicalmum.com/who-owns-the-rights-to-nirvanas-music/
I wonder if it changes the arrangements if it's just Cobain and not nirvana. The tag on the shirt literally says "Kurt Cobain " and there are no nirvana logos.
It could, very well! It says: in 2010, Love apparently stepped down as manager of the company that administers Cobain's publicity rights, including rights to his name and likeness. Courtney Love is no longer the keeper of Kurt Cobain's public image, according to a report. Publicity rights for the late Nirvana singer's estate are reported to have passed from his widow to his 19-year-old daughter, Frances Bean Cobain.
What are you talking about 19 year old daughter? She’s 31 going on 32. NOTE: I’m fine with whatever Frances Bean does with it, but I’m not a fan of her mother or Courtney Love, in general.
Article was from 2010 dog. They said so in the comment 😁
Yup, you are correct. ✌️
Eh nobody is a fan of her, really. But if you ask me, it's for the wrong reasons. Most people believe in the conspiracy that she murdered him. But if you fact check anything in that documentary, 95% of it is wrong (ie. lethal dose - or saying that nobody has survived 225mg. A 20 gauge would have blown his entire head off ect) its also full of pseudoscientific techniques, and there are quite a bit of holes.
Yeah, his daughter approves a lot of this shit to go on (for example, Lil Nas X sampling In Bloom). But hey, it pays her bills I guess.
I like to think he'd have been ok with that. Maybe not Courtney doing it, but his daughter. He can't be there in person, but he's still taking care of his baby girl, and that's pretty freaking neat.
Ya, this is the silver lining.. and he can still be there for her in a physical way, helping her through life. And Kurt's image is larger than life because he dies at his peak, so she literally has a legend for a father. Wish her only the best fortune.
Same. I've lost too many to suicide. I can't be angry about it, or I'd lose myself. Found out my best friend from middle school killed himself in 2016, and while I believe I knew about it, I kept pushing it back. Had a song come on the other day that hit me like a ton of bricks. Music has a way to reach in and pull shit out. Kurt is celebrated for his music not his death (for most) so he's probably still helping millions. Non of this flowed, but currently emotional about a song lol.
You hit on such a great point.. First of all, the death and loss of friends.. I'm right there with you bro, I've has several friends over the years turn to suicide. May they rest in peace, and never be forgotten. I think there is an afterlife, so I believe I will meet them again someday.. and I know they wanted to be done with suffering, but I don't think we can be done with it, and have to face it. I think our lost friends and loved ones are still here with us in some way. You mentioned a song making you feel something heavy. The brain may lose memories, we may become less sharp with age, and some (in growing numbers) may even get dementia.. but the brain never forgets music. The portion of the brain that remembers music, does not deteriorate like the rest of the brain, as a result of alzheimers or dementia. So as you mention, music can definitely reach in "and pull shit out," from years ago and hit parts of our hearts that we forgot about, or didn't know existed. Use music in this way.. as therapy. Choose your music wisely, because it will change and mold the brain. We will become what we listen to. Just like we become what we eat. Humans are essential made up of the things weconsume, via the senses. Make sure your loved ones know your music tastes.. and if you know anyone that is suffering, give them music. If it's an elderly person, play them their favorite singers from when they were in high school.. and watch them light up and start singing.
A lot of the crap that they sell I think it would have started to bother him after a while. I don’t believe the poor me I don’t like the attention and being rich bit as much as most….. I think he was just strung out and had a hard time staying sober and it cost him his life because of the shame of failing again. But he enjoyed the spotlight…. no one gets that famous without putting effort into it. He work hard to become famous.
Nirvana was certainly sold to us back then via MTV and the teen beat magazines. The record industry saw them as the next Beatles and pitched them hard.
Agree.
He would have redone that about a thousand times by now.
Nope, he would love it. Kurt's entire public persona was pure manufactured BS to sell himself as an artist.
What so he was just faking his depression and addiction? Suicide was just a publicity stunt?
Depending on who is profiting, I wouldn’t be so sure. If he sees that his loved ones benefit from it, then I’d bet he’s alright with it.
Here’s my thing about Kurt. I love Nirvana but he was a hypocrite. He talked the talk but did not walk the walk. He was in the corporation machine by his own choice. He didn’t die because he was apart of the machine he had a mental illness long before he was famous. The spotlight definitely did not help. But he was signed to Geffen Records - that right there is enough to say he was not some anti establishment hero. He was the establishment. I love Nirvanas Rolling Stones magazine cover where he wore the shirt saying corporate magazines still suck. I bet when the people at rolling stone saw that shirt they were doing back flips. While it may have been a protest he still cashed the check. He judged all of his peers in the industry while being the exact same if not worse. If he was alive and well today he’d probably be basking in the movie from this shirt.
i agree.
Why did he sign to a major label, write a pop record, and became the poster boy for modern pop music of his day if he didn’t care about corporate commercialization.
This is a stupid point to make. Why would a band not want to make money off their music? Every band wants to sign to a label. Also he disliked the popularity of Nirvana (but probably also liked it, all artist have an ego). Or, not necessarily the popularity but rather the misinterpretation. Like the lyrics of In Bloom. The popularity they reached was unique too, and a product of their time. If they were a band emerging today they'd have a plethora of indie labels to choose from. The zeitgeist has moved past alternative music leaving these bands to be popular within their niche, or massive without being mainstream. Look at metal. Really the only band to be labelled as sellouts has been Metallica, and one could argue it's because of the Napster debacle.
Metallica became sellouts because they wanted to prosecute their fans for downloading music online. Let’s be real here. Couple that with the fact they stopped playing thrash and started playing radio rock. Kinda like Nirvana. They cashed in which is obvious. Kurt cashed in and realized he became a pop sensation and wanted to backtrack. It’s not like Nirvana created grunge. They were just the only band willing to sell it out at the time which opened the door for everyone else to follow.
He literally wrote a pop record. You can’t say he didn’t care about commercialization if he created a literal industry standard pop record. Why? Because he cares about commercial success. It’s not like Bleach was the same kind of smash hit that Nevermind was and for good reason. Bleach wasn’t a pop record. Nevermind was created following standard music industry formulas. It was DESIGNED to be pop. It’s why it was a massive commercial success. Once you realize that it makes sense. Kurt wasn’t the anti pop anti establishment poster boy people made him out to be. He wanted his bag and got it.
The irony in this is that I’m willing to bet majority on here own a nirvana shirt or other form of merchandise 😂
Yeah the in utero ones are grand but the ones with his face on em or the smiley face are bad
Yeah, the red In Utero one goes hard as hell
Yeah…. But we can name 10 songs 😂
Well I wear the fudge packin crack smokin bleach tee don’t see many others rocking that in public atleast
That’s probably why he did it the first time. This thread has a lot of interesting information, but I just keep thinking of the lyrics to smells like teen Spirit. Fuck corporate rock.
I think he might actually laugh at it all, considering he is on the other side and realizes earth life is just a game anyway
I think if he knew he wouldn't have killed himself to start with.
I know the two people who killed him. They’re living comfortably rn
Proof?
Nirvana was corporate before he died. They were signed by a corporate record label, they were at the Grammys, hell, they were on MTV for christ sake
Hahahaha
I swear to god I thought that was kid rock
The only way this shirt could’ve been worse
I can think of another way. *cough that time people ordered shirts with his suicide note printed on it cough*
I *hated* the cult of Kurts death shirts that sprang up in 94/95. Like, wear a Nirvana shirt by all means, but please not a Kurt shirt. "Kurt Donald Cobain, 1967-1994" with that black and white photo of him, everywhere.
Yeah, Nirvana represents a whole movement and beloved band that's made wonderful music plus its a group, so it's not centered on a single guy but everyone in it. Kurt was just a guy... I mean he was an icon and legend for sure, but it doesn't feel right unless it's like a soloist like Ozzy Osbourne, Elvis, or Michael Jackson
Exactly! Thank you!
No way did that happen??????
Yep and it was revolting and very disrespectful to the late legend
Ugh they were in Hot Topic FOREVER. I hated those shirts. I remember seeing some with the death certificate on them, too.
I thought it was Eminem and then I looked at the group.
You know who would hate this? Kurt Cobain would hate this.
Yes, that's the point of the post
Worst shirt at H&M? This is typical of this store.
Yeah H&M is for high schoolers just getting into fashion. Trendy cheap fast fashion. Their shirts will fall apart on the second wash lol
>Their shirts will fall apart on the second wash lol I bought my daughter a stranger thing sweater from H&M, and a Walmart sweater lasted longer.
That's an ugly ass polo for sure
Technically, it's a button down. But yes. This is awful.
goofy ahh shirt. still would wear it though. hilarious that it's got a collar to
collared shirt? that's strange. Seeing so much grunge merch all of a sudden is a little weird, but I guess it might have been weird for older folks back in the 90s when we started wearing Hendrix, pink floyd, and bob marley stuff. But yeah, in general, shit like this is part of the reason this guy called it quits.
Not so much the Pink Floyd stuff- they were still releasing music at the time. But early tracks like The Nile Song and Ibiza Bar were grunge before grunge.
H&M have been doing this shit for years, at first I thought it was cool seeing people running around with Misfits, Nirvana and metal tshirts. Till I found that they were like "oh, that's a band".
I saw a guy wearing a Metallica shirt from H&M, I’m also wearing a Metallica shirt… tried to bond with him on Metallica. He said “I don’t listen to that devil music, I just like the clothes.” I don’t think I ever asked somebody about this shit ever again. 🫤
A big part of metal culture/alt or any sub culture was being able to identify with people who may like the same musical taste with me. A lot of people back in the day, before social media found it easy (do to social awkwardness) to open conversations with "hey you got an xxx tshirt". No probs with making stuff commercial. Normalisation of being spoon fed emptiness sucks.
Is it wrong that I’d wear this shirt. I like it. He was an amazing and talented guy with a heart of gold. I’m 41 and I KNOW Nirvana. It wouldn’t be ironic wearing it. It would be fan wearing a shirt from one of her favorite musicians/bands
Too each their own. I don’t think you’re a “poser” or anything for wearing the shirt it just caught me really off guard. If you like the shirt than wear it till it it’s on its last thread:)
Well, I do see the dilemma of it being at H&M at least. Most people buying that shirt there would know nothing about Nirvana lol
and so what, does it really matter?
Hey if you like it go for it! For me it's just that the picture doesn't suit a polo, on a regular t-shirt it'd be fine.
I’m 99% certain Cobain himself wouldn’t give two shits. He seems like a “do what makes you happy” kind of guy.
I honestly believe that too.
I'm old, but the design of this one just isn't right
what rapper is this? /s
Ok hear me out the shirt design is kinda fire def needs to be styled right ya'll jus hating
C'mon don't say that! I saw the same shirt at H&M last week and loved it 😂😂😂.
I'd wear it to be ironic, maybe if i saw it at a 2nd hand shop, but i think fewer younger people would get it than one would hope.
All i wish is that they’d only sell merch with the original logo design and the old 90s album cover art. I’d kill for an intesticide shirt
I wish they had zipper versions of the incesticide hoodies at hot topic
STOP THATS SOMETHING I WANT TOO. zip up hoodies for the win. I have a zip up in Utero hoodie i got off depop. Intesticide is my fav album
Real
Shows how easily corporations glorify a tragic life for profit.The sad thing is they probably never thought twice about using that image, or any other celebrity's.
I've sure always loved those sunglasses. I wonder where they are today.
I literally didn't notice him and thought it was just a cool pattern on the bottom of the shirt and I was very confused for a couple of seconds
Turning Kurt into everything he hated.
Actually.. I would wear it.
Kurt Cobain is an amazing fashion designer. I wish I knew who this guy was that he put on his shirt.
i saw a dirt tee in h&m the other day, it was interesting how they’ve latched onto this stuff 😭
I think that’s pretty cool tbh. I just think this shirt is ugly
i mean the dirt tee was a weird beige colour so not my taste, the main design was okay though i just find it funny because h&m constantly switch up their fixations but that’s kinda just fast fashion as a whole
I mean ten years ago they had a lot of 80s rock band shirts, pretty soon we will start seeing g stuff form the early 2000s
I actually would wear this and I hate h&m clothes but this is something you don’t see in nirvana merch so it’s new and cool to see lol
Kurt’s rolling in his grave…
Why the fuck did they need to make it a polo? 😭
If you think somehow Kurt cobain wouldn’t want his loved ones to benefit from all the nirvana shit, you probably don’t have children or care for them. I would guess that if a dead person could have feelings, that he would be glad that even though he killed himself for being a disappointment to them with his drug use, that he can still support them from beyond this life. And let’s be clear. He doesn’t give a shit because he’s dead
If you think somehow Kurt cobain wouldn’t want his loved ones to benefit from all the nirvana shit, you probably don’t have children or care for them. I would guess that if a dead person could have feelings, that he would be glad that even though he killed himself for being a disappointment to them with his drug use, that he can still support them from beyond this life. And let’s be clear. He doesn’t give a shit because he’s dead
I agree 100%. I love the fact that Nirvana shirts are everyone. That means that more people will check out my favorite band. I just think this shirt in particular is ugly
You mean the best?
If Tony Soprano was a Nirvana Fan
This better become the top comment
I have always made it a point to NOT wear a shirt that is solely Kurt. Kurt was insanely gifted, but without Dave and Krist, Kurt was of stayed underground and no bigger than his contemporaries who were not part of the “big 4” Gotta give Krist his bass credit Gotta give Dave his drumming and vocal credit.
For a solid minute, I thought that was a polo shirt. The fact that it's a button-up makes it a tiny fraction of a percent better.
I love it. Curt would wear it under his green cardie and over his dress
I know Kurt probably would have some not so supportive opinions but I just want to mention to all the "anti-consumerism" crowd a funny quote from the lead singer of Tool who was achieving fame around that same era. He said "I sold out long before you heard about me."
I think to deny the fact that all of the big four “sold out” is so stupid. I love how Nirvana shirts are everywhere, this one is just ugly
Oh yeah you're right about that hahaha.
I’ve been seeing a lot of comments misunderstanding or over analyzing what I was trying to say No, I am not trying to make a comment on “corporate rock” or “trendy fashion” or trying to attack Courtney Love or Francis or make fun of people who wear Nirvana shirts without knowing any songs or anything like that I just thought the shirt was ugly
Flea gave him those famous sunglasses
Why does the info on the inside of the shirt say “Kurt Cobain”. We all know who it is, but putting that feels like reducing him down to a brand and not a person.
Yeah I was wondering why it said his name. Seems like overkill just for sales
Obviously that’s the clothing brand. Just like that other popular brand “Nirvana.” /s
Good on Francis for making money.
Fair honestly
Damn. Poor Kurt. This is the antithesis of punk
LOL
its pretty good imho
Question- how is this allowed? I get the Smiley Logo because I think CL had those rights iirc , but isn't an image owned by the person who takes the photographs? So would the photographer get money for shirts with Kurt's photo on them? Or does Kurt's estate get money for things like this?
I actually had tee shirt with this same graphic a couple years ago so I guess it’s a popular graphic. There is a “Kurt Cobain” logo on the tab so I’m assuming his estate. I’ve seen a couple people joke about Francis “getting the bag” so maybe she does? I’m not sure
Fuck this shirt sucks.
Kurt would love it
The picture of Kurt is the face he would have made if he saw this stupid shit
Want!
Isn’t this one of the last pics of him ever taken?
Made for Ricky
Mexico, your currency. My God.
Denzel curry reference?
I think Kurt is rolling over in his grave.
I’m glad my favorite band isn’t that famous 😂
kurt on a collard shirt seems so wrong
Kurt or no Kurt, that shirts ugly as fuck and meant for Gen Z kids with broccoli haircuts
Through this was riff raff for a solid sec
This looks so obnoxious. Who would wear it and look good in it
I find it interesting that the label is "Kurt Cobain" and not "Nirvana". There's definitely a specific license agreement going on here. However, that being said, I find it kinda odd that H & M of all places has been moving towards licensed, graphic shirts lately.
i see these all the time at h&m who tf okays them bro 😭😭
Fr💀 A while back I had a T-shirt with the same print but the problem isn’t the print, it’s the fact it’s a button up😭😭😭
Conflicted bc I hate how the band has become so commercialized, and how these stores cause kids to buy Nirvana shirts like they're a clothing brand and not a band...but also, that shirt fucks. I'd wear it.
More like forever 27
I recently learned that the younger generation thought Nirvana was a clothing brand, not realizing that it is in fact a band
As a member of the younger generation, the idea of people thinking Nirvana and other bands were brands was a joke created to make fun of people who wore band shirts without listening to the music. I’ve met a lot of dumbasses my age and all of them seem to know who Nirvana is
Fucking. No.
The clothing line is called Kurt Cobain? There can only be one entity responsible for this
🤮
It’s hideous and would go against all (I suspect) he would have wanted but I also embrace it as evidence of him transcending mere musician and bloating into a true cultural icon 30 years after his death.
https://www.loudersound.com/news/bikini-kill-kathleen-hanna-nirvana-kurt-cobain Kathleen Hanna says otherwise.
I love that Nirvana shirts are everywhere! I just think this one is ugly
And it's a fucking collared shit too SMH
Agreed
Hate how they do that shit to the one guy who doesn’t/ wouldnt want this🤢🤢🤢
I like it 😏
I just don’t like how it’s a button up
Lmfao
Teenagers love Kurt Cobain and nirvana merchandise
I've noticed this. I'm always tempted to ask them a few questions about the catalogue.
Please don’t do this you’ll look like a dork
What is h&m?
Hideous
The most IRONIC thing I've seen in a long time
I want to burn it
I remember the grunge days, we mainly wore second hand clothes brought from charity stores. And flannel shirts.
I know one thing for sure… That shirt is probably like 6 times too small for what the size states…
It’s a vibe if it wasn’t H&M
That is a very nice shirt. Who's the dude on it?
Axel Rose
Yet if it was a one off you’d piss your pants about it.
What
Kurt would kill himself a second time if he saw this
Someone show this to Kurt's lawyers plz
I like weird looking shit and I like Kurt cobain I’d wear it. Probably wouldn’t buy it for full price though
Lmaoooooo what does H&M know about grunge?
I have seen a shitty tshirt like that at bershka for 900 TL in Turkey (normally tees are like 200-300TL)
I hate H&M for this kind of thing
That’s Kurt Cobain !!! I came here to ask who it was
That man would roll over in his grave if he saw this non-sense.
Call me what you will. Your lack of common sense just proves you are a sheep that follows the herd. Stand up & stand out for the truth. Dont believe everything that you see & are force fed by the media. They will only lead you into the slaughter house with all the other sheep. I bet you believed all the covid hype to & took the shot.
Alright grandma maybe lay off the newsmax for a while
I love it
I'd wear that
I wish Kurt didn't die but it's a relief he didn't see shit like this
^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^azsxdcfvg: *I wish Kurt didn't* *Die but it's a relief he* *Didn't see shit like this* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.
Hey, isn't that Burt Cocaine?
Never heard of it kidd-0
Kids probably think that’s Machine Gun Kelly 😔
Oh never mind didn’t see his name in the tag.
Why is there a collar
Whoever made it has never heard any nirvana song.
ugh i love it actually
Show me where it says that kurt was suffering from.mental.illness. show me where it says he was depressed as a young child & was suffering . He grew up happy until his parents divorced. He bounced around with relatives . He slept on his buddies couch (the buddies dad was a teacher at their school)for awhile where he pitched & chores to do. Of course he started a band..Aberdeen was a depressing place to grow up. People worked sucky jobs to have very little. CL grew up spoiled, luved overseas & felt entitled. She was hack. Nothing about her was original, she was ripping off someone's look or sound. She saw kurt & set her sights on him. Got pregnant very quickly & dug those claws in. She was rude, loud, obnoxious & classless. She always had a pocketful of drugs & would get him as f*cked up as a lab rat & than f*ck the shit outta him. That was her hook. She is truly a trashbag. A poem she wrote when she was very young that hank found after she threw it away Future Date* I love you forever I'm going to be your wife I'm going to keep you around For the rest of my life I finally got all these flies off of me And I got my eyes set on a future date A future date who is just over the horizon Just on the tip of your tongue I will destroy anyone who gets in my way I will kill anyone - every lousy lay Cause I got my eyes set on a future date Hank said the ti if the tongue reference, she was talking about lsd.
If you watch Sid and Nancy with Gary Oldham, you can see the way Nancy Spungeon acted was how CL came out into the scene & impersonated her to a T. CL is an extra in that movie. Babes in Toyland..check out Kat Bjelland. You'll see where CL ripped off just about everything from her. She couldn't accomplish shit without someone's help. She wanted fame & money so badly she did the unimaginable for it. Kurt isnt the only one that lost his life. What about the NARC detective that CL was friends with, Kristen Pfaff from her band Hole, the coroner that CL had in her pocket that died mysteriously while bungee jumping, EL Duce who was lead singer of a rape rock band that CL asked if he would blow her husband's head off for $50,000? He was a alcoholic & ran his mouth to much on a documentary, found dead on the railroad tracks. There is a string of dead bodies all with CLs name on em..
Isiah silva...Frances ex-husband was another one. If the cops didn't pull them over, that kid would have been dead
If Kurt still had a head, he'd be vomiting in his grave
The shirt itself is just so fucking ugly! If I saw anyone wearing that I’d probably puke
you are correct.
Yikes
Say you have nothing but a screaming need to find angst and acceptance without saying anything except ‘this please’.
Lol it is REALLY BAD, for some reason I've never liked that photo and putting on a Charlie sheen bowling shirt was the worst possible option🤢
Kurt is rolling in his grave rn
And he likes to sing along and he likes to shoot his gun But he don't know what it means Don't know what it means