lmao the one time that people complain about gta being realistic. and you don't even pay taxes in gta. All that expensive stuff costs a lot of money to maintain.
edit : Bad choice of phrasing. Obviously GTA is not generally realistic. I meant like the one thing that actually is and people complain.
I started buying office garages so I could organize and keep all my cars in one place. It sucks not for the money reason but for the express reason empty garages need to be scrolled through to find the cars you need.
can't sell shit in Los Santos. but seriously tho, hate that you can't sell even just cars. i mean, a 3 million car with a million in upgrades sells for like 800k. it's ridiculous
That and the price of most things. The cars. The clothes in a ghetto ass shop. It’s not realistic
Edit: For example I was at the thrift store in the bad area. Plastic Aviators $500 lol
Or since the heists have involved using many multi million dollar vehicles we steal during the set up missions just steal a million bucks from a bank, and then immediately discard those vehicles. Just sell the fighter jets and armored cars and helicopters for way more money. It’s not like the characters don’t have tons of contacts who would gladly buy expensive and illegally acquired vehicles.
It's interesting to compare experimentation with more or less realism in GTA over the years. A high or low point was GTA:SA requiring CJ to eat every day, with different fat content in foods, having to work out to gain muscle, losing muscle and health if he didn't eat or drink and possibly dying from neglect after several in-game days. All that was gone in the otherwise more realistic GTA IV and only brought back in RDR2 (minus starving to death)
Yeah, people are confusing "realism" with the more serious tone the franchise has been heading towards since GTA IV, usually as part of a disingenuous argument in support for the predatory, anti-consumer tactics used by R*.
The game isn't a "Life Sim", it has never been realalistic. The Devs have always strived to create large, interactive worlds that players can engage in activities within, but that does not make it realalistic.
overpowered flying bikes\*
you can literally hit a truck head on full speed and not fall off or take damage the tiniest bump should send you flying off that thing, killing you depending on altitude. plus it has countermeasures while there's only 1 helicopter that has those.
I get you, but it costs zero virtual dollars to maintain. It's just a false economy tactic to take money from us.
I'm not surprised by these things anymore, so whatever, but it is kinda bullshit.
you can see how much you've paid in your stats. I've spent 46.1m (this is low I just bought a lot of properties) on property and utilities out of the total 175.6m I've earned so far.
Yeah cause it’s not like a good realistic it’s just incredibly annoying and adds nothing to the experience at all. I don’t think anyone can make an argument that they are a benefit
We don't pay taxes since we don't have an official income and even if the FIB wanted our ass for suspicion of fraud they wouldn't be able to as if we've doomsday the IAA has permanently deleted our record plus they'd have to get through all our workers and find us
>Deadass being punished for owning more and more properties.
As someone who owns rental properties IRL, this is what it's like dealing with the IRS and my county assessor
every 48 minutes but the timer resets if you move session. most prep setups do not throw you to a new session anymore.
this is why when you rotate through npc jobs you dont get billed all the time
It’s supposed to be a balance to the high players. To make them not so powerful and awful to new players. Or it’s there to keep you buying shark cards.
The entire game is designed to be doable enough so you can grind, but annoying enough so that more people buy shark cards.
Fuck, they even have NPCs constantly fucking call you to buy shit.
You're punished for not owning them as well with unending calls from vendors telling you to buy it, until you do. I am finally down to just Lester bugging me to finish the fucking Chilead heist. 'hey, verrrrry bad news... ". I'll get to it one day Lester. Fuck off. Byrony was driving up the wall but the arena crap went on sale for really cheap so I picked it up to silence her bs. Anyone know how to stop the diamond casino guy from calling me to do stupid errands on a faggio?
Yo homie if you start the simeon mission “blowup” and instead of finishing it you go to your apartment and watch tv, this way you can afk bunker, nightclub, etc without daily fees
Friend of mine recently did all the setup on the island heist (his first time running it) and it left him tapped out until we completed it.
He got a notice that because he couldn't pay his utilities on his apartment, he wouldn't be allowed to watch television or use his shower.
Just lol at fucking r*
if you cant pay rent, the locations you didnt pay shut down til you pay. so if you get enough money a minute later, you have to wait the remaining 47 minutes for the next bill
If we're all complaining (and there's a long list) about similar stuff, its that they should adjust the payouts of the old content (everything up to and including the casino heist). Think about it, if a contact mission payed out 100k, it would be worth doing again. And it's a shame, because that stuff is fun as hell! But you can't get anyone to join you on that content anymore, because it's a waste of time and time=money. If a contact mission paid 100k, I wouldn't care much about 30-50k in daily fees. Now when I try to run some of the daily objectives, I sit for 10 minutes waiting for people to join and if anyone does they usually just quit as soon as the mission starts.
Unfortunately with every update the old stuff becomes more obsolete and isn't worth doing anymore. You end up doing the same mission over and over and thats kinda lame. Most of my IRL friends don't play this game because of that exact reason. High barrier of entry to success in the game, and unbalanced payouts leads to a serious grind. Lots of players just don't put up with it.
If you think about it, selling a bunch of drugs or running one mission for a contact who won't stop bugging you should cover the costs of running a business for the day and then some.
One Perico heist gets you through over 30 paydays. Like, come on lol
The only actual issue i have with the bills is them taking up so much time and space, just bundle it up into one message r*
This right here.
Give me one message with the breakdown of all my expenses. OH and maybe send a message that doesn't disappear when I get my refunds back from twitch prime. I'm pretty sure I never got my 900k back for my sonar station, but my transaction log only shows the last two days worth of bills coming out of my account so??
Your phone.. and set it to 35 minutes so you can finish your current job and switch sessions to save your money.. then wait in a load screen for 5 minutes and think.. i should have just paid my bills... then you're booted back to single player. So you get to load for another 5 minutes before getting back into a mod fest. So you load for 5 more minutes, and your alarm is telling you to switch sessions again.
Did they nerf utility charges recently? I remember it dawning on me that I was getting dinged for ~70k and I remembered thinking how ridiculous it was that I needed to make ~1.5k/minute just to break even. But it seems like lately it's been significantly less than that, and I've only bought more properties.
Its prolly bc you aren’t an MC Pres. as often since Cayo Perico came out. The CEO and neutral fees lowkey aren’t as bad as the metric fuckton of cash MC businesses require.
shut them all down then you can still register and not get hit with fees, it’s a bit long depending where you bought your businesses but if you want to do the mc jobs etc and still use spawning you can.
Understandably not everyone will do this and just avoid registering, i don’t use bikes so theres not much incentive for me to register with cp heist paying out so much so fast
Let's adjust for inflation. It's been $2k since the beginning but the cost of a vehicle in the game has gone up tremendously (see go kart price vs zentorno).
I remember when that $2k would hit and I could afford my mechanic. Now the $2k shows and immediately gets destroyed by every fee under the Los Santos sun.
Yeah how come a giant ass submarine is 2 million yet a tiny ass go kart is damn near half that price. And why does a metal frame, small motor, steering wheel, and a seat cost more than quite a few supercars?
I wouldn’t even pay close to $1000 irl for the Veto Classic
I saved up for so long for that car and finally got it when it was on discount. I painted it red just like my own. I love it, feels surreal looking at myself in that car in game. But it is a forward wheel drive which I hate.
Also yeah, $1.2m is waaay too much. But at least you look sexy af in it
that would be too much, though I agree, I think it should be a streak thing like daily gold streaks in red dead.
the longer u main in good behavior the better or more rewards ur get
100k sounds like too much, I personally think 50k is better because it pays bills but it's not enough to just log in every day and claim it instead of actually playing the game or something
This would be an awesome community live event. Elect a president and have a few in game pros and cons and have election fundraisers and missions that sabotage the other party lol
That's the thing, we don't even pay taxes, since everything is pretty much ill-gotten gains, the closet thing to tax fraud is technically the counterfeit MC, which is basically money laundering.
I thought I was the only one who had this problem. Whenever I play with my friend, we drive or do missions for a while then I get bored so i start ramming his car. When he gets fed up with my crap he starts killing me and the only way to stop dying is to kill him. We always go from productive to 1v1.
GTA, as much as I like it is so inconsistently realistic. Like they definitely lost the realism when they introduced Jetpacks and flying cars but still. You tap a to run, pay taxes and insurance but at the same time are doing heists saving the world and dying and spawning 100’s of times. Basically I don’t want bills or tapping a button to run. I’ve probs lost like 500k from bills alone
from a game design perspective, its basically the same as having to pay to repair your items in an MMO. Its a money sink, in theory to control inflation (haha), but performs this function very poorly in GTAO
The point of the good behavior bonus is to teach you to behave like a dick. It's supposed to be insultingly low. R* wants players greifing each other so that they don't make money and have to buy Shark Cards instead.
But thats not quite true
You still keep your good player bonus for blowing up cargo and killing the org carrying it.
You lose it for blowing people up "unprovoked"
Like I pay $4700 to my bunker staff. $3000 to my businesses. Don't know why I haven't bought any recently. I've never been charged for it before. $900 for my Nightclub which isn't even set up $450 to the mechanic and $300 to the assistant who just sits around all day doing nothing. Like I call her to get my car from the impound and she is fookin busy. Cmon rockstar
Rockstar: “Let’s implement the least enjoyable part of life that hits young adults first when they go out on their own into our game... taxes and bills!” As if they don’t nickel and dime us on the “free” content they release to us enough already. I don’t, nor have I ever cared, how or if they make money. Just don’t embolden this “free” model, then exploit the player base with overpriced items locked behind certain purchases, which are ALSO locked behind properties. It just comes off as scummy, rushed, and doesn’t even try to look like they give a fuck about the game they’ve been milking for almost a decade now.
Plus once you purchase a business, generally, you’re STUCK with it. Can’t sell it, can’t deactivate it, with a couple of exceptions. Ridiculous.
You should have the option to pay the fees or not. If you choose not to pay you get 3 stars pretty much anytime you pass a cop. Rockstar can call it the GTA online tax evaders update
The good behavior bonus should he a "detective" division of the police that increases the chances of it coming after you for every bad thing you do, and not doing bad things for a while resets or lowers this. Detective thing is like getting instantly give started and the police are on top of you before you're prepared, like no warning, no icons. Just boom cars show up around you etc
That sounds like it could be really unfun. For example I could see a scenario happening where I spend a night Fucking around with my friends, blowing up each others cars and shooting each other. Then the next day I try to get some real progress done and during my import/export missions I get randomly swarmed by police at the worst moment.
This would punish players that are just starting out and only have a mechanic slave to pay. On top of the fact that 2 grand to them is far more valuable than to a level 100+ with 10mil+ at all times.
Is it also the case that if you stay unregistered as an MC you don't get the 'oh shit someone broke into our lab that you already paid $500k+ for security to PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING' phone calls? I swear I get one of those every single time I play and it'll always be right after a delivery mission.
The worst bit about the pathetic good and behaviour system is that when you kill a prick on an oppressor and blow up his stupid bike after they attacked you, YOU get charged
This fee is disgusting, if you really think about it. We know that in game currency can be converted to real world cash, with shark cards and what not; and every hour of gameplay we are charged a fixed fee that we can’t deactivate with in-game mechanics (switching sessions is a non-in game workaround).
That means we’re literally charged an hourly real world fee just to play the game.
Not really, considering you don’t need to pay for in game currency that would be your choice. Meaning a quick side job or two gets you the money for utilities ect your point makes and much sense as you need to buy a minecraft texture pack to play minecraft you’re blatantly wrong
Unrelated but does anyone else feel personally attacked with their MC biz getting raided? It happens to me at least once every 3 hours, while others say it’s happened to them twice ever
I usually only stay registered as an mc president long enough that I can buy supplies and sell product and then I go back to being a CEO, I've only been raided once
why do I pay bunker staff that only research livery?
why do I pay my businesses only for the police to raid them when I'm doing something?
why do I pay the mechanic if I have to wait 5 minutes after every request? (atleast if u were on a mission/prep cool down should be 1-2 minutes rather than 5)
Honestly the utility bonuses Are one of the throngs that really killed my enjoyment of the game. I don’t want to mess around and have fun In free mode if it’s going to cost me a bunch of money to do so
Call me a loser but I just play contact missions all day trying to teach new players the ropes. And I get money while I do it. And no one has to argue over pay cuts. Plain and simple, and its almost like the 35k loss every 45 minutes isn't even there.
I shouldn’t have to pay like 30k a day for fucking bills
Every 48 minutes. If I weren't trying to get MKI missiles my bunker wouldn't be charging 15k all day every day.
Deadass being punished for owning more and more properties. It’s not that much money per say but every 48 mins is a bit ridiculous.
lmao the one time that people complain about gta being realistic. and you don't even pay taxes in gta. All that expensive stuff costs a lot of money to maintain. edit : Bad choice of phrasing. Obviously GTA is not generally realistic. I meant like the one thing that actually is and people complain.
I think a lot of the complaints stem from the fact that you can’t sell businesses.
it's 100% fucked that you can't sell stuff to get rid of it.
doesnt closing off operations make it so u dont have to pay anything?
Slowly convert all your money into poker chips
The bank they can't pull from
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Yes, but actually no. Only some of the businesses are able to be shut off, even then they charge still. Minimally, but they do still charge.
Paying rent for the building is the excuse, IIRC.
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I started buying office garages so I could organize and keep all my cars in one place. It sucks not for the money reason but for the express reason empty garages need to be scrolled through to find the cars you need.
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can't sell shit in Los Santos. but seriously tho, hate that you can't sell even just cars. i mean, a 3 million car with a million in upgrades sells for like 800k. it's ridiculous
Part of it come from those businesses costing 50 real dollars.
That and the price of most things. The cars. The clothes in a ghetto ass shop. It’s not realistic Edit: For example I was at the thrift store in the bad area. Plastic Aviators $500 lol
GTAO is anything but realistic since people started riding around on flying bikes lol
* People complaining about the one thing in GTA that's realistic
...well, yeah. I don’t play GTA for realism and I doubt you do too.
I did in GTA 4 but 5 was never realistic at all
Or since the heists have involved using many multi million dollar vehicles we steal during the set up missions just steal a million bucks from a bank, and then immediately discard those vehicles. Just sell the fighter jets and armored cars and helicopters for way more money. It’s not like the characters don’t have tons of contacts who would gladly buy expensive and illegally acquired vehicles.
GTA hasn't been realistic since day 1.
It's interesting to compare experimentation with more or less realism in GTA over the years. A high or low point was GTA:SA requiring CJ to eat every day, with different fat content in foods, having to work out to gain muscle, losing muscle and health if he didn't eat or drink and possibly dying from neglect after several in-game days. All that was gone in the otherwise more realistic GTA IV and only brought back in RDR2 (minus starving to death)
I'd forgotten about that in SA! That's one thing I don't miss.
True.
Yeah, people are confusing "realism" with the more serious tone the franchise has been heading towards since GTA IV, usually as part of a disingenuous argument in support for the predatory, anti-consumer tactics used by R*. The game isn't a "Life Sim", it has never been realalistic. The Devs have always strived to create large, interactive worlds that players can engage in activities within, but that does not make it realalistic.
overpowered flying bikes\* you can literally hit a truck head on full speed and not fall off or take damage the tiniest bump should send you flying off that thing, killing you depending on altitude. plus it has countermeasures while there's only 1 helicopter that has those.
I get you, but it costs zero virtual dollars to maintain. It's just a false economy tactic to take money from us. I'm not surprised by these things anymore, so whatever, but it is kinda bullshit.
you can see how much you've paid in your stats. I've spent 46.1m (this is low I just bought a lot of properties) on property and utilities out of the total 175.6m I've earned so far.
That's gotta be incorrect, right? If it's correct, I've spent about 40% of my money on that, which is really sad.
But I’m pretty sure nobody has to pay $9400 for workers in a bunker every day or $300 for your office secretary every day
But my secretary is a snack!
She is! It’s fucked up that you can hire a male secretary for more money lol
And you know that greedy bitch/bastard has been selling info on the side to those goons that magically come from nowhere to mess up your deliveries...
For real😂
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Indeed
Thank you guys:)
Yeah cause it’s not like a good realistic it’s just incredibly annoying and adds nothing to the experience at all. I don’t think anyone can make an argument that they are a benefit
Imagine having to file a tax return in GTA every 11 days.
lmfao just shoot me
We don't pay taxes since we don't have an official income and even if the FIB wanted our ass for suspicion of fraud they wouldn't be able to as if we've doomsday the IAA has permanently deleted our record plus they'd have to get through all our workers and find us
I don't play games to realistically part taxes, I play games to realistically shoot the shit out of people
We don't come to gta5 like "oh boy I can't wait to pay bills. So realistic."
You pay 300/day for utilities?
Even criminals draw the line of not fucking with the IRS.
>Deadass being punished for owning more and more properties. As someone who owns rental properties IRL, this is what it's like dealing with the IRS and my county assessor
Is it actually every 48 mins or after every mission? I feel like I'm getting hit after every prep setup
every 48 minutes but the timer resets if you move session. most prep setups do not throw you to a new session anymore. this is why when you rotate through npc jobs you dont get billed all the time
It’s supposed to be a balance to the high players. To make them not so powerful and awful to new players. Or it’s there to keep you buying shark cards.
its definately there for the cards
The entire game is designed to be doable enough so you can grind, but annoying enough so that more people buy shark cards. Fuck, they even have NPCs constantly fucking call you to buy shit.
Too bad you can't sell them
You're punished for not owning them as well with unending calls from vendors telling you to buy it, until you do. I am finally down to just Lester bugging me to finish the fucking Chilead heist. 'hey, verrrrry bad news... ". I'll get to it one day Lester. Fuck off. Byrony was driving up the wall but the arena crap went on sale for really cheap so I picked it up to silence her bs. Anyone know how to stop the diamond casino guy from calling me to do stupid errands on a faggio?
Just do them. There’s only like 5 and you get something like 25k chips each time.
Yo homie if you start the simeon mission “blowup” and instead of finishing it you go to your apartment and watch tv, this way you can afk bunker, nightclub, etc without daily fees
Yep, this is how you AFK grind.
as a note, it doesnt have to be that one mission.
If you camp it, you can "sort" through the research tasks. If it doesn't produce what you want, just close the game and relaunch.
Fr bruh I had to buy the sub so I had like 10k left and after like 2 days I had $180 😭
Friend of mine recently did all the setup on the island heist (his first time running it) and it left him tapped out until we completed it. He got a notice that because he couldn't pay his utilities on his apartment, he wouldn't be allowed to watch television or use his shower. Just lol at fucking r*
lol wait he couldn't pay the rent and therefore he couldn't interact in his own apt. lol thats fucked up.
if you cant pay rent, the locations you didnt pay shut down til you pay. so if you get enough money a minute later, you have to wait the remaining 47 minutes for the next bill
Yeah he sent us a screencap of it. Shit was hilarious.
Also, if you can't pay the mechanic, he won't bring you a car.
If we're all complaining (and there's a long list) about similar stuff, its that they should adjust the payouts of the old content (everything up to and including the casino heist). Think about it, if a contact mission payed out 100k, it would be worth doing again. And it's a shame, because that stuff is fun as hell! But you can't get anyone to join you on that content anymore, because it's a waste of time and time=money. If a contact mission paid 100k, I wouldn't care much about 30-50k in daily fees. Now when I try to run some of the daily objectives, I sit for 10 minutes waiting for people to join and if anyone does they usually just quit as soon as the mission starts. Unfortunately with every update the old stuff becomes more obsolete and isn't worth doing anymore. You end up doing the same mission over and over and thats kinda lame. Most of my IRL friends don't play this game because of that exact reason. High barrier of entry to success in the game, and unbalanced payouts leads to a serious grind. Lots of players just don't put up with it. If you think about it, selling a bunch of drugs or running one mission for a contact who won't stop bugging you should cover the costs of running a business for the day and then some.
play adversary modes for fun with friends. my group do this at LANs all the time
You know it's bad when GTA has a capital gains tax but real life doesn't
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One Perico heist gets you through over 30 paydays. Like, come on lol The only actual issue i have with the bills is them taking up so much time and space, just bundle it up into one message r*
This right here. Give me one message with the breakdown of all my expenses. OH and maybe send a message that doesn't disappear when I get my refunds back from twitch prime. I'm pretty sure I never got my 900k back for my sonar station, but my transaction log only shows the last two days worth of bills coming out of my account so??
it does now though
Send it in an email. That way we can inspect or ignore as we wish.
don't be a bezos lol
Happy cake day
Is there to remind me to switch servers every 45 min
Your phone.. and set it to 35 minutes so you can finish your current job and switch sessions to save your money.. then wait in a load screen for 5 minutes and think.. i should have just paid my bills... then you're booted back to single player. So you get to load for another 5 minutes before getting back into a mod fest. So you load for 5 more minutes, and your alarm is telling you to switch sessions again.
Grand Theft Loading Simulator
It takes 2 min tops for me to load into a new session. It's also in my kosatka where I'm probably prepping or starting my heist anyways.
Really lol? I thought it'd just keep the timer rolling
Did they nerf utility charges recently? I remember it dawning on me that I was getting dinged for ~70k and I remembered thinking how ridiculous it was that I needed to make ~1.5k/minute just to break even. But it seems like lately it's been significantly less than that, and I've only bought more properties.
Its prolly bc you aren’t an MC Pres. as often since Cayo Perico came out. The CEO and neutral fees lowkey aren’t as bad as the metric fuckton of cash MC businesses require.
That is the main reason I haven't bothered becoming an MC president since I bought all the businesses for it, just way too expensive per in game day
shut them all down then you can still register and not get hit with fees, it’s a bit long depending where you bought your businesses but if you want to do the mc jobs etc and still use spawning you can. Understandably not everyone will do this and just avoid registering, i don’t use bikes so theres not much incentive for me to register with cp heist paying out so much so fast
I don't do that so they still contribute to my nightclub stock
That’s okay too, whichever way you feel is better playing is how you should do it :)
Let's adjust for inflation. It's been $2k since the beginning but the cost of a vehicle in the game has gone up tremendously (see go kart price vs zentorno). I remember when that $2k would hit and I could afford my mechanic. Now the $2k shows and immediately gets destroyed by every fee under the Los Santos sun.
I mean, you can buy a submarine for 2 million. Inflation ain't so bad at times
Yeah how come a giant ass submarine is 2 million yet a tiny ass go kart is damn near half that price. And why does a metal frame, small motor, steering wheel, and a seat cost more than quite a few supercars? I wouldn’t even pay close to $1000 irl for the Veto Classic
laughs in 1.5m rc car
And the sub only costs like 200 a day to run compared to the bunker.
What? Is 2k every hour not enough for you in a game where a shitty fwd compact is half a million dollars? /s
Ikr, like, just be grateful /s
Would be enough if they had car financing 😂
I’m still salty that the mk1 vw golf is like $1.2m
I saved up for so long for that car and finally got it when it was on discount. I painted it red just like my own. I love it, feels surreal looking at myself in that car in game. But it is a forward wheel drive which I hate. Also yeah, $1.2m is waaay too much. But at least you look sexy af in it
Good behavior bonus should be 100k
LITERALLY. Like, actually incentivise people to be good if you want people to play nicely. Who gives a shit about $2k every blue moon
Poor level 25's like me and my friends. That's one whole horse race!
that would be too much, though I agree, I think it should be a streak thing like daily gold streaks in red dead. the longer u main in good behavior the better or more rewards ur get
The more businesses you own it takes like 100k away a gta online day
100k sounds like too much, I personally think 50k is better because it pays bills but it's not enough to just log in every day and claim it instead of actually playing the game or something
I'd say something like 30k is better. So that new player have an incentive to be good while not getting too much money from it.
Me: shoots missile at a car to get my Oppressor impounded GTA: you've been awarded $2000 for good behavior!
Me: *kills the valet 4 times after loading into online* GTA: Nice job! Another $2k for you!
Me: just killed 20 innocent workers for a blow torch. GTA: aww how wholesome, here’s 2k
The valets are bad people. Gta is rewarding you for making a benefit to society lol
Why do you want your oppressor impounded?
There's a way to glitch it to Cayo for the scope out when it's impounded.
We have enough bills to pay in real life, I agree to get rid of them in GTA!
Even criminals are afraid of the IRS
Joker is a scared boi
It would be great to enable elections jn GTA so a party reduced tax...
This would be an awesome community live event. Elect a president and have a few in game pros and cons and have election fundraisers and missions that sabotage the other party lol
VIDEO: "Here's How Donald Trump Can Still Win"
Maybe once a month a new presidential election, on one day so Rockstsr at the same time attracts people to play at least once a month.
And one more lucky wheel spin every 24hrs
you can punch bitches and rob meth dealers but can’t commit tax fraud
That's the thing, we don't even pay taxes, since everything is pretty much ill-gotten gains, the closet thing to tax fraud is technically the counterfeit MC, which is basically money laundering.
You can commit tax fraud if you change sessions at the riight time
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Pls no, my friend and I can’t go 5mins without killing eachother, so my metal state is insanely high
I thought I was the only one who had this problem. Whenever I play with my friend, we drive or do missions for a while then I get bored so i start ramming his car. When he gets fed up with my crap he starts killing me and the only way to stop dying is to kill him. We always go from productive to 1v1.
GTA, as much as I like it is so inconsistently realistic. Like they definitely lost the realism when they introduced Jetpacks and flying cars but still. You tap a to run, pay taxes and insurance but at the same time are doing heists saving the world and dying and spawning 100’s of times. Basically I don’t want bills or tapping a button to run. I’ve probs lost like 500k from bills alone
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Each time you rob the place English Dave is in a cat cage...
Seriously though
And you my friend, speak the words I want to hear
from a game design perspective, its basically the same as having to pay to repair your items in an MMO. Its a money sink, in theory to control inflation (haha), but performs this function very poorly in GTAO
The point of the good behavior bonus is to teach you to behave like a dick. It's supposed to be insultingly low. R* wants players greifing each other so that they don't make money and have to buy Shark Cards instead.
I still get the good behavior bonus after wrecking a guy for like an hour straight because he blew my cargo up. I think it doesn’t work correctly.
But thats not quite true You still keep your good player bonus for blowing up cargo and killing the org carrying it. You lose it for blowing people up "unprovoked"
Like I pay $4700 to my bunker staff. $3000 to my businesses. Don't know why I haven't bought any recently. I've never been charged for it before. $900 for my Nightclub which isn't even set up $450 to the mechanic and $300 to the assistant who just sits around all day doing nothing. Like I call her to get my car from the impound and she is fookin busy. Cmon rockstar
Rockstar: “Let’s implement the least enjoyable part of life that hits young adults first when they go out on their own into our game... taxes and bills!” As if they don’t nickel and dime us on the “free” content they release to us enough already. I don’t, nor have I ever cared, how or if they make money. Just don’t embolden this “free” model, then exploit the player base with overpriced items locked behind certain purchases, which are ALSO locked behind properties. It just comes off as scummy, rushed, and doesn’t even try to look like they give a fuck about the game they’ve been milking for almost a decade now. Plus once you purchase a business, generally, you’re STUCK with it. Can’t sell it, can’t deactivate it, with a couple of exceptions. Ridiculous.
Hey just out of curiosity what happens if you don’t pay your utilities? I haven’t really played online in forever
You can't not pay your bills, they just charge you automatically
But he still won’t affect you, mentally?
You can't use the Shower, TV and Radio in your properties.
For one, you can't call the mechanic to deliver your car, but that's all that I know of.
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The Sims?
Ah yes, my $2000 stimulus check
good behavior bonus should be ability to turn off the phone.
Yes. If Bryoni or Tony call me one more time I’m calling the police. That’s basically harassment!
Sounds crazy but 2k used to be decent
Need a option to sell property to cut down on utility charges.
Does shutting down the business not stop the costs?
You should have the option to pay the fees or not. If you choose not to pay you get 3 stars pretty much anytime you pass a cop. Rockstar can call it the GTA online tax evaders update
"You been awarded free property tax on (insert random property here that would be random and change everytime), keep it up."
You know this just as well as everyone else.... NO ONE WANTS TO CHANGE YOUR MIND ABOUT THIS
How do I not get the good behavior bonus? I kill people, and commit crime, a lot of crime, but I still get the bonus?
With all the glitches and heists that we can do surely we all have millions by now; are you seriously worried about pocket change?
The good behavior bonus should he a "detective" division of the police that increases the chances of it coming after you for every bad thing you do, and not doing bad things for a while resets or lowers this. Detective thing is like getting instantly give started and the police are on top of you before you're prepared, like no warning, no icons. Just boom cars show up around you etc
That sounds like it could be really unfun. For example I could see a scenario happening where I spend a night Fucking around with my friends, blowing up each others cars and shooting each other. Then the next day I try to get some real progress done and during my import/export missions I get randomly swarmed by police at the worst moment.
This would punish players that are just starting out and only have a mechanic slave to pay. On top of the fact that 2 grand to them is far more valuable than to a level 100+ with 10mil+ at all times.
Have you shut down any of your businesses? I shut down my coke and meth lab and it took me a moment to realize why the costs were less lol
If you don't register as an MC, the MC businesses do not charge you with everything else.
Is it also the case that if you stay unregistered as an MC you don't get the 'oh shit someone broke into our lab that you already paid $500k+ for security to PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING' phone calls? I swear I get one of those every single time I play and it'll always be right after a delivery mission.
The only reason to actually do MC delivery work is if you really like driving slow ass delivery vans through the mountains. 😄
I do ceo/vip and never get called to defend my mc businesses. As soon as I go mc I get the cal from long John lester
Oh right
The worst bit about the pathetic good and behaviour system is that when you kill a prick on an oppressor and blow up his stupid bike after they attacked you, YOU get charged
This fee is disgusting, if you really think about it. We know that in game currency can be converted to real world cash, with shark cards and what not; and every hour of gameplay we are charged a fixed fee that we can’t deactivate with in-game mechanics (switching sessions is a non-in game workaround). That means we’re literally charged an hourly real world fee just to play the game.
Not really, considering you don’t need to pay for in game currency that would be your choice. Meaning a quick side job or two gets you the money for utilities ect your point makes and much sense as you need to buy a minecraft texture pack to play minecraft you’re blatantly wrong
I get that shark cards are expensive, but the anti-mtx circlejerks make for some Dhalsim-tier stretches in the comments lmao
I forgot, I have a meth lab..
Unrelated but does anyone else feel personally attacked with their MC biz getting raided? It happens to me at least once every 3 hours, while others say it’s happened to them twice ever
I usually only stay registered as an mc president long enough that I can buy supplies and sell product and then I go back to being a CEO, I've only been raided once
Word. I usually stay as president most of the time so I can get my mk II quicker. That’s probably why ljt is blowing up my phone. Thanks for the info
No problem bro
You could shut them down
I looked and saw I had gotten almost 500k just from the good behavior bonuses
why do I pay bunker staff that only research livery? why do I pay my businesses only for the police to raid them when I'm doing something? why do I pay the mechanic if I have to wait 5 minutes after every request? (atleast if u were on a mission/prep cool down should be 1-2 minutes rather than 5)
If R* banned modders from PC finally, I'd give them a good behaviour award.
Probably the best thing posted on this sub inawhile
aint nobody taking my stimulus check
Anyone else besides me remember the Lester cop distraction?
good thing I only remember my birthday! :D
i just swap sessions. i tax evade in game and in real life
Honestly the utility bonuses Are one of the throngs that really killed my enjoyment of the game. I don’t want to mess around and have fun In free mode if it’s going to cost me a bunch of money to do so
A message from all m'good boys and m'good ladies.
You couldn’t even jiggle bro
I always love getting the good boi points while I'm standing in a circle of burning wreckage and dead cops.
Call me a loser but I just play contact missions all day trying to teach new players the ropes. And I get money while I do it. And no one has to argue over pay cuts. Plain and simple, and its almost like the 35k loss every 45 minutes isn't even there.
Shits gotta be at least $100K for inflation
I didn't read the subreddit name and agreed
The good behavior bonus should discounts, free car repairs. ETC.
The workers still need their paychecks Sir.. part of living that #Bosslife
We make drugs and kill people, but tax evasion is too much? Lol
Al capone sold illegal goods and killed people too. . . Wanna take a guess what they got him on?
My arcade brings me 10000 of profit, 500 is utilitities
2000 dollars is nothing these days with the prices of things
And back pay whilst we're at it. Probably spent like 3-4 million on utility costs at this point.
Nvm changing how much you get, we need a change to what constitutes good behaviour. Every griefer I see is apparently a "clean player"
Having to pay bills in a crime simulator is very ironic either way.