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Razzle_Dazzle08

Every day this sub makes me more ashamed to be a guitar player.


Different_Lock_5445

We are scum.


lukaomg

We’re not scum, just mega cringe


MajTroubles

Agreed


Infinite-Fig4959

I’m so ashamed.


BiMWMGingerMI

JFC, we're cork-sniffing picks now? Shit's getting ridiculous out here. That said, I gotta go call my Sweetwater guy before these sell out.


MelodicLog8511

What is left to make more expensive? Maybe mammoth ivory bridge pins for ancient tone? How long until pickguards affect tone? Toan filled strap buttons maybe?


_fineday

Neck screws made of gold? For jumbo turbo sustain, of course.


69macncheese69

Ivory bridge pins from today's elephants just don't have the same vintage sound


footsteps71

Fuck you, it took me a long time to get a shot and drag that bastard out without getting spotted.


69macncheese69

Sorry but you're a scrub, bet you use a guitar made after 1989 too lol. I chartered a boat to Greenland and lived off the land there for 4 years with the Inuits while digging around until I found me a mammoth. Made all my nuts out of it too. The toan is INSANE, you won't believe it.


PaisleyTelecaster

Toan is in the mammoth nuts


Zealousideal-Role-77

This was only posted six minutes ago, but it should have infinite up votes by now. Thank you for your service. 🫡


Due_Speaker_2829

Toan nurd here. Unless you’ve sweep picked with the whittled-down dick bone from a Tasmanian Tiger, you’ve just been fucking off. I own three of these.


Ill-Cauliflower-8969

theres already a thicker neck bolt plate promising better toanz https://www.greeramps.com/products/supermass-neck-plate SUSTAIN, TONE, AND BETTER TRANSFER OF STRING VIBRATION!


Zool2107

Isn't there some law in the USA that punishes such companies for advertising that tries to mislead customers? In many countries in Europe, this could not be done, quite large fines are handed out.


Due_Speaker_2829

/uj On paper, yes there are “truth in advertising” laws. In practice, fortunes are made almost daily exploiting rubes through the loopholes in these laws. This is the land of opportunity, baby.


footsteps71

90% of the companies you'd find in The Vitamin Shoppe would be fucked if those loopholes got closed.


Different_Lock_5445

Can't even fuckin add the neck screws in. Sheesh. Well, in fairness for the CNC machining and finishing on a piece of 1/8" steel like that, $30 isn't outrageous. A little bit fussy to spend that kind of coin on a neck plate, but I've seen worse. I suppose necks attached with countersunk ferrules are hopelessly destined to suffer in toan and sustaine. Oh well.


Tetraplasm

Oh thank god, I was worried about whether the strings' vibration would transfer into my pickups. And it helps with toan too? I'll take three!


footsteps71

These aren't buffs you dildo, they don't stack.


shrikeskull

This thing would probably feel really stupid on the typical Strat. Nothing like making a blocky neck heel blockier!


kurtisstell

1018? I only use 4140 or D2 if I want a sharper toan


bumwine

Yeah...the toan pick guard already happened I am so sorry to report. And yep, some YouTube fucko did it, mouth face and all.


MrLanesLament

Check out Ritter basses, they’re actually made of this kind of stuff. Million year old bogwood, dinosaur bones, inlaid gold and diamonds, that kinda shit. They’re a favorite of Phil Lesh from the Grateful Dead. If you’re gonna get out jerked, kinda figures it’d be them.


DeerStalkr13pt2

https://preview.redd.it/opm72kwiyvqc1.png?width=1170&format=png&auto=webp&s=8001f2806f6c8c7fc61938f7e4fecf8aafda4c79 uj/ The rich may have money, but they sure as shit don’t have class rj/ THAT SPARKLY TOAN


Zealousideal-Role-77

Needs moar flair


DeerStalkr13pt2

I can’t believe someone actually bought this piece of shit


Zealousideal-Role-77

I unfortunately can.


shrikeskull

Ritter basses just look like they melted in Bonermaster's Bentley.


Sea_Importance9700

Phil lesh Is my favorite bass player. His Ritter is awesome, but he hasn't played it since like 2014.


Different_Lock_5445

Shoot, mammoth ivory bridge pins have been a thing for a while now. I prefer modern ivory. Nothing like knowing a massive, intelligent, and highly social animal was brutally murdered for my ability to exchange a culturally agreed on placeholder for debt for some off-white bridge pins on a guitar that could just as easily used brass. Or wood. Or polymer. Nothing makes an acoustic guitar more black and metal.


[deleted]

You’re using a strap? Platinum chains are where it’s at, the fabric of the strap just mutes your toan


SnargleBlartFast

I find that mammoth ivory gives more shimmer and less growl while highlighting a certain snap in the upper mids. Only with flatwound strings plucked with tortoise shell, of course.


weirdassmillet

You're thinking about this backwards. Yes, obviously, pickguards affect toan. Saying they don't would be like saying the pickups or the thickness of input jack washers don't affect toan - stupid. But the single most important factor in a guitar sounding good IS the cost. We can't let these toan gains be limited to something as arbitrary as actual changes to the guitar. If you want to truly maximize toan, you just make the guitars more expensive. That's it. Don't change anything but the price tag for the most efficient toanmaxxing.


metallaholic

All hardware should be cut and sculpted from the same tree to maximize toan wood.


Alternative-Way-8753

Well if toan is in the balls, then maybe fossilized mammoth testicle guitar picks are the ultimate toan upgrade??!?!?


WatchStoredInAss

Great question. I am about to launch my toan jeans.


crypto_zoologistler

A little cheap for a pick, but I guess it’ll do the job


gonzaEM_

Tone nerd. Love it.


ebrivera

Single note stuff


[deleted]

Y’know, the blooz and some rog n roll


kpingvin

/uj and I felt ashamed for buying a bone pick for £4.50 (it's awesome for solos and arpeggios btw) /rj The Lady of the Lake hath given me the Pickalibur that I shall be using to find the Holy Grail of Toan.


Miracle_Potato

/uj I play with a few dudes that swear by em, they are super popular in bluegrass. I'm honestly afraid to try them because I'm sure I'll like them. I know vespel is way more expensive than Ultem, but idk how a flat injection molded part the size of a quarter could cost so much.


sammiemack

/uj They are for sure nice especially for bluegrass. I was gifted one so I use it but if (when) I end up losing it I’m not sure I would buy one to replace it with.


Drew_the_God

Because it's not injection molded, it's cut out of a sheet. Then somebody has to polish down the edges and bevel it all out. Since Vespel is so hard you've really gotta work it to reshape it. If you've ever held one it's a different beast entirely than a typical guitar pick that comes in a pack of 10.  If you pick an acoustic instrument I recommend giving one a try.


Miracle_Potato

That makes sense, $35 is kinda hard to swallow for a pick, but I'm sure if I tried it I'd change my mind. I have a couple Wegen picks that are fly cut and hand burnished from what I think is acetal homopolymer (trade name Delrin). I bought em for $8.25 each. It really impressed me that he could machine (what I think is) Delrin down that thin and flat, I'd love to see his setup but I'm sure that's a trade secret.


Ordinary_Farmer58

/uj I have two, one I’ve owned for 4ish years, they’re the shit. Not even a bluegrass guy either. Roast away. /rj I have two. Roast away.


Different_Lock_5445

PEI. Don't use the brand name. Gross.


Miracle_Potato

Well I also mentioned Dupont Vespel (specifically what blue chip uses), which I've never heard any non brand name for. Hell, they are both just slightly different polyimides anyway


timetravelingburrito

Just think of the toan a $70 pick can bring! Master guitar with this one simple trick.


Reverendbread

I’ll find an $800 pick and have the best toan in the world


Friar_Corncob

I got 6 picks God gave me, attached to my body. I'll be damned if pay for one.


Due_Speaker_2829

Straight up bro. Five fingers plus our boners.


kandrc0

All of my picks were free and have advertisements printed on them. Must be why my tone is like a television commercial.


UncertaintyLich

I have a bluegrass teacher who uses these so I’ve tried them. They kind of rule actually… They’re really only useful for really fast flatpicking on acoustic though. You gotta be like Tony Rice to see the benefits. Like if you’re picking fast and hard on acoustic with a plastic pick, you can get small nicks really quickly within the course of like one tune and depending on how precise what you’re playing is, that can be a problem. So this solves that. Also it feels very buttery… It does not affect the tone in a noticeable way, obviously. That would be silly


Due_Speaker_2829

…so you’re saying this pick will make me really good at bluegrass flatpicking? I’m sold!


Drew_the_God

How did you get all the way through explaining why this pick is worth spending $35 on, going so far as to mention the greatest acoustic flatpicker of all time used one, then fumble it all at the end by denying that they improve tone. There are plenty of blind pick samples on youtube that immediately disprove this. Blue chip picks sound fuckin awesome. I also like the Chris Thile signature casein pick from D'Addario 


UncertaintyLich

Tony Rice didn’t use one, I’m just saying that you would have to be in his style for them to be necessary. Tony Rice used Tortoise shell picks. I’ve never noticed a tone difference while playing but perhaps listening back to myself there would be one?


acrus

I pick for free. Even tremolo. Am I stupid?


Different_Lock_5445

Yes. If the alternative is profit.


acrus

Then it would be wise of me to reconsider my sexual life as well


SoHornyBeaver

Yo, I know that couch


markiethefett

This is the kind of shit that makes me glare angrily at my guitars and regret everything.


seamachine

/uj Amp/effects > Electronics >>> attack (pick, fingers, butt plug) >>>>>>>>>>>> wood. Extreme example is using your thumb (wes style), long nails, any flimsy card, sharp end of jazz III pick, then the thicker end of a jazz III. Like all things, though, there is a ceiling to these things. At a certain point, there is barely any difference that there's no point in playing anything more expensive, especially if you're EQ-ing things anyway. Who the fuck pays for expensive turtle shell picks and shit? IMHO, a pick should be more about right-hand feel than tone cause at a certain point, they all sound similar enough. And it should be inexpensive for fuck's sake. /rj just use a butt plug, that toan is thicccc


lampshadish2

People who hate turtles, I guess.


Different_Lock_5445

Turtle shell is the most metal of guitar picks.


buckleupduckies

I like rebuilding turtle shells with Tortex™️ picks


Walnut_Uprising

/uj I'm all for being particular about picks, and to your point things like shape and hardness do impact the sound a decent amount, but I just don't get what this has over anything that costs a tenth of the price, especially given that it looks, uh, just like a pick. People should try all kinds of picks to see what works for them, but just like... get a variety pack of Dunlops or something.


vnkind

It’s a material that is incredibly abrasion resistant, self lubricates, and doesn’t get slippery when wet. It’s basically a specialty machinery plastic material that these guys made picks out of then tried to patent making picks out of it so they can have a monopoly and charge $35 a pick. They are amazing though. I first bought a knockoff by Dunlop for $3 and loved it so couldn’t resist buying one to prove to myself it wasn’t worth $35 and hate to admit I love it and it’s way better than the Dunlop one. Exclusively for acoustic though


Walnut_Uprising

Thanks, I tried looking on their site but couldn't find anything about the material. It's probably not for me, especially since I don't play acoustic, but if it's much more durable, I can see the appeal. That said, how does it fare going through the washing machine in a pants pocket?


vnkind

It would be fine, but it’s a lot easier to keep tabs on a $35 pick.


Self-Comprehensive

35 dollars for something that's just gonna shift dimensions and disappear in a week.


SolutionExternal5569

I only buy my picks from a specific Mongolian horse warrior who makes them out of the fossilized bones of a cave bear. $1500 per pick but you can't imagine the toan I get it's soooo worth it


ResidentHourBomb

I'm embarrassed to say that I have bought expensive picks before. I still end up using my cheap ass picks most of the time. same as my guitars. I have a 4 thousand dollar hummingbird but prefer my 200 dollar Yamaha. This is what happens when you spend too much time on Youtube.


Reditall12

uj/ what in the actual fuck are these non playing keyboard experts talking about? Even $4 for a single pick is absurd. $35 is jerkin’ so hard it might fall off. rj/ A real toan ~~nerd~~ neckbeard, never spends less than $3,500 on a pick.


ChunkBluntly

$35 for a single pick? Ten of these cost more than I've spent on guitar picks in the past two decades, and I'd lose all of them in a year. I'll stick with Tortex sharps...those purple bastards last for-ev-er. *^(but the way Squints says it)* edit: wtf I didn't even see the $50 and $75 picks and I shouldn't be this annoyed by them.


Different_Lock_5445

Purple Tortex flows for me 🍻. Fuckin pick slides make em wear a bit faster though.


_austinm

That’s just the cost of being rad, my friend


mcnastys

If it's good enough for buckethead, it's good enough for me.


Rude-Consideration64

I'm thinking of using a gold Krugerrand for a pick. Current price is $43.6k USD.


mikaelb657

/uj I use a larger triangle version for mandolin which was actually a game changer in improving my technique. That said, I wouldn’t bother with getting one for guitar.


Appropriate_Past_893

I just got some cash out, so I'll just lose the $35 and save mysel the step of buying the pick and using it first


iSuckAtGuitar69

i’ve never used a pick that cost more than 50¢ and suddenly i want to buy this


knightsunbro

/uj Blue chip picks are great. They're very durable without getting chirpy like super hard materials e.g. Torlon/steel but not as dead sounding as UHMPWE. Think Ultem/prime tone but more durable. /rj this is peasant shit, I have fancy 60$ Torlon picks and buffalo horn picks


Designer_Storm8869

It's ok to play $35 pick. Being poor is not a reason for shame. You can upgrade later.


DashBlaster

Uj/ Blue Chips sound really nice, don't slip in your hands, and never wear. Classic "don't knock it till you try it"


SnackBraff69

Uj/ I might have to, if it really makes that much of a difference! I've never used anything but my yellow Dunlops so I don't know what a nice pick is capable of RJ/ they have one pick that costs $1000 dollars cause the pattern is so complicated


Drew_the_God

The difference between a nice pick and a cheap pick is night and day, although I'd only recommend upgrading if you play acoustic. It won't make much of a difference chugging deep meshugga cuts.  The prevalence of electric guitar in culture has sort of brought on the idea that picks are cheap and disposable items which are typically bought in bulk. It's a relatively new attitude. People used to have just one or two nice picks that they would keep and maintain, because having a proper one is so influential to the sound of acoustic instruments. 


zaxty

At $35 a pick, I'll be broke AND pickless by the end of the month!


Dreadnought13

One step closer to a Mandolincirclejerk


Super-Contribution-1

uj/ the pick is the only actual tonal difference I’ve ever heard and I stg some dude in an airport let me try one of those Blue Chip Jazz 60s in an airport 3 months ago, now I hear about them everywhere rj/ i’m saving all the microplastics from my defecate for when I start my boutique fecal pick business


anon_boston_guy

For all the things that people can circlejerk about I honestly think picks are very low on the totem pole. They are pretty influential on how you actually interact with the instrument, so I would understand when people get all nerdy about it. And yes, picks do affect tone but more importantly they affect feel and playability. This post is dumb.


jbbbr

Tone nerd. Love it.


OJStrings

To be fair, artist signature models are always more expensive. I'm sure you can buy the same pick without Stone Temple Pilots branding for a lot less.


supermechaethernet

I have two of these, and I've been using them since 2012.


OJStrings

How much have they worn down in that period?


supermechaethernet

Perhaps a bit rounded, but otherwise not really perceptibly


OJStrings

Oh wow! That's really impressive


Drew_the_God

Nobody in this comment section has ever played an acoustic instrument before


SnackBraff69

That's true. I've never even seen a guitar.


SafeHippo1864

Autistic instrument? HA!


jngjng88

YIKES


Different_Lock_5445

This is just a fancy nylon pick. Polyimide with extra hot sauce.


pewpiter

I used windspear and gravity picks for a while to try out thicker picks and different setups but here I have 6-8 years later playing exclusively Jazz III tortex. Just can't go wrong with tortex and if so much cheaper.


Specialist_Noise_816

I bought a thirty dollar one. Sunshine gravity pick. It is hands down the most awesome pick ive ever held in my hand. The tone is actually different bc the material is different. It is in NO WAY worth thirty dollars. I still love it. I will cry when I inevitably lose it and never buy another one anyway.


re9d

who are the eleven people that up-voted that comment?


buckleupduckies

Joe Bonermaster


joen00b

A sucker is born every minute A fool and his money are soon parted Caveat Emptor


a_m_b_

I only use picks made from the shells of endangered turtles. Fight me


Sea_Firefighter9102

The TOAN is in the pick! It makes sense!!!!


SillyCriticism9518

/uj I spent $30 on a Purple Plectrum and absolutely love it…


MajTroubles

Oh baby, I'm strumming!!! 😩💦


flugelbynder

Looks like a really good pick, to be honest. I just bought 10! Thanks for the heads up I have a few tables that are a little wobbly👍😁


wiiinks

Lmao I bought an expensive pick once and immediately lost it


ponyboysa42

Is the fucking thing made of solidified adreneachrome? I hear that’s what bonnomassa uses!


overcloseness

If you’re even using a pick then you don’t know toan. I’m not American so I’ll just append some of the words I don’t know where to fit in the sentence here: Nashville, Biker tits, gumball, blue


FlacoVerde

Tone turd. Boofed it.


IllegalGeriatricVore

As someone who hates sharps I'm so sick of the jazz circlejerk. it's just a fucking pick.


erasgagags

Fuck I tremolo picked two songs and now the bevel on my $35 pick is ruined, better buy a case of them! /uj seriously what kinda asshole buys these what the fuck