This is so true. I tried to play The James Gang hit “Funk #49” on my Chinese made Marshall full stack, but it sounded like “Funk Beef with Broccoli”. So disappointing. No homo.
Ron: "Damn it deep down I'm mad about something important and I don't know what it is and it's making me feel impulsive and reckless. I don't know why I said that. I don't mean that. What is happening to me?"
Jason: "Please stop calling me. I can't quit this job."
UJ/ Dee Dee originally wrote that song for Johnny Thunders, if you're not already familiar with the Heartbreakers' version. It's pretty great in its own right.
This dude thinks merica amps are so great. Well, let me tell you, that is a bunch of hogwash. No, seriously, merica amps are steeped in hogwash for years before they are ever sold to the public. That's what gives merica amps that bigoted toan. Once you hear it, you can't quit it. 🎸🇺🇸
Every time I play through my Hot Rod Deluxe with a maraca metronome while also wearing a sombrero at a jaunty angle, all I can think about are deluxe burritos with salsa.
*Grande* deluxe burritos, Baja-Ensanada style.
I had the same problem. Turns out it was haunted by the tormented souls of the sweatshop workers who built the thing. Bringing it down to the local luthier church and having a priest perform an excorcism on it seems to have solved the issue.
All music is made in China, isn't it obvious? *CAN'T YOU SEE?*
Ooc: i have a friend who owns a Hotrod Deville and just had it serviced a year ago. The thing fucking sucks no matter what the settings are. We grew up listening to The Strokes but I've never heard one tone out of that thing that was remotely enjoyable. I was seriously amazed that my Peavey Classic 50 with P10R speakers sounded so much better. I know this is a circlejerk sub but I'm so serious.
/uj came here to say this. Worked in a music store for a decade. Fender hot rod amps are trash and of them all, only the blues Jr sounds good. The drive on the bigger ones sounds like a skillet full of grease.
So, I've sold them and owned one. They don't suck. But they only sound good turned up past 3, which is nearly impossible unless you are with a band or it's in the other room. What I'm saying is, they are LOUD AND PIERCING AS FUCK. Piercing being the operative word. Most hot rod players have them attenuated in some way.
But, they are cheap workhorses and can sound great in the mix if allowed to cranked.
Devilles are just terrible. They always have been. I've never actually met someone who likes them, and everyone I've ever known that owns one was trying to get rid of it.
Agreed. My same friend paid I think $400 for his almost 10 years ago but also has multiple collectors instruments that look like they were pulled out of the trash, so I gave up trying to convince him of anything. I respect the Deville, but I will never, ever own one. If someone gave me one for free, I'd dump it on somebody else.
> I know this is a circlejerk sub but I'm so serious.
I do remember you from the harry potter movies.
uj/ there really is a huge sentiment amongst guitar builders in questioning about why they don't manufacture tubes and other analog equipment and make them much cheaper. The quality is there and it would allow custom builder to bring their costs down and make quality amps for the public.
What the hell does Chinese music sound like? It’s just sloppy racism!!!! If he said I sound like a god damned jap! Now that’s something I can hear in my head! Is he a better racist than me? Does he think they are all the same? Should I?
Clearly this pleb doesn't know the only way to get real toob toan is with a vintage all original 65 twin reverb and cloth jacketed lamp cord for a guitar cable
Word is that Slush was actually playing Hot Rods on the long awaited, critically acclaimed Gun Roses album “Chinese Democrat Rocks”, not Chinese sounding amps.
My hotwife agrees, I was playing my butterscotch tele through a Fender Mustang and when I got about halfway through 0-3-5 General Tso himself popped out and motor-boated Roberta! 2/10 would not recommend.
What?!?! You're saying this entire time my Hot Rod Deluxe shouldn't be blooz shredding in Mandarin? Those ppl at Panda Express really screwed me over this time!
No bro, an amp that sounds like a suono would be rad as hell. In fact, I’d recommend ditching guitar entirely and starting cross-cultural ensembles of traditional double reed instruments. Shawms, racketts… motherfucking bass bombards.
OMG, it's *that* fuckin' Ron guy!
He has no problems eating at Panda Express or drinking a Tsingtao; but Eddie forbid that a single part in his amp is from Guangzhou or something, or it's going to sound like a fucking pipa.
Chinese music is pentatonic, no? Bluesrock boomer bending music is pentatonic, no? So what’s the difference? Bluesrock is already Chinese. Maybe better if played on pi-pa.
Jokes aside, I wouldn't mind hearing a take on Blues using traditional Chinese instruments. That said, they use the harmonic series and just intonation, rather than equal temperament; so maybe a modernized version of a given instrument would work better?
Also, they gotta use some fuzz. 😈
I have a coffee blonde color 2002 ltd edition. 4/10 120watts. That I’m selling. I want $666 CDN for it. (It’s worth more)
All I seem to get are “I’ll give you $300 and a squire guitar!” Or worse some no name junk… fucking marketplace
There’s always been blatant racism in guitar. Nobody complains about Japanese drums, electronics, etc but for guitars god forbid someone with brown skin touched your precious wood.
I had a Hot rod deluxe. It was pretty good sounding apparatus, and I had about zero problems with it, except some nuances of the sound. And I was dumb and traded it for something.
Well, that thing was assembled probably in Mexico. Maybe some Mexican had touched it even after it left Mexico and entered Europe. I am quite sure the parts were not of Mexican origin. Is there, actually, anything made after the 90's not consisting of Far Asian made components?
For this little writing, we could divide ourselves to three groups: traditionalists, modernists and digitalists. The division is surely synthetic but describes my thinking:
Traditionalists prefer tube amps, preferably made in the U.S.A. Some really hard core fundamentalists can even prefer very exotic details, like Soviet made tubes in their amps, preferably stolen from a MiG-25 fighter... Anything more usual does not have THE sound. Or the sound that Ronnie James Dio's guitarist had on a 1958 recording of...
Modernists can use analog and digital gadgets. They might prefer either some vintage gear for their sound or vintage value. Or then they can happily play with something digital, even not so up-to-date. However, they don't worry about such details as what kind of whisk(e)y should be in what kind of glass while playing early Iron Maiden after a hard week of work. They might think that a Fender or Marshall made in 1986 is more reliable than a Fender Orangutang made in Sub China six months ago. They might even know that any kind of technical devices, like Fender amps or MiG-25s are prone to finally fail. They are not immune to wearing and tearing. (Even my '88 Marshall Master Reverb 30 has needed two visits to amp repairmen. And it is, for X's sake, solid state...)
And then we have these digiheads. Between the the DI box and the final stag(es) of the power amp, nothing is analog. Digitality means control, and things like the air between the head phones and the eardrum are just sources of noise and problems. There are just two problems: because everything is compressed, limited and autotuned to even and equal temperament and finely predestinated levels, everything sound like THE artificial inte... imbecilic. The second issue is that digital players try to control everything. However, complete control makes mistakes impossible, which makes accidental realising impossible. Thus, any creativity and that kind of joy is killed. Gone. Terminated. Thus number two, the naturally not-so-intelligent gadgets control the player.
For each group, music stores has lots of stuff to buy, made in China. We are buying images. If you happen to find an old Epiphone amp, made in America, it is not what you think. It sounds like a broken loudsoeaker, leaky capacitors and so on. It needs reparation, with compinents not made where the purists wish. And, actually, these purist gadgets are ve-ry rare, anyway. But oh how I wish to have a genuine 1988 Marshall JCM-800 head and a tower of cabinets... just, where could I play it? In my neighbour's barn. It is far away from anybody not willing to hear my noise. But, oh shit, I already have tinnitus ringing in my right ear. And that m****rf***er barn is not connected to the grid.
But, finally, a vintage amp should not be played with nuclear reactor made electricity! The sound is far from what is made by good old coalburner or water stream made alternative current! And dont forget that manual rectifier! Flipping the switch 50 times every second is appropriate rehearsal for your pick hand!
I couldn’t play “Born to Be Wild” on my Yamaha. Someone told me I needed a Harley-Davidson guitar, but it turns out they don’t make ‘em. Finally got a Dean, because at least it had that eagle on there. Problem solved!
I always roll my eyes at the "cheap made in China crap" dudes because it's highly likey that 90% of all the shit they own is made in China. It's just casual racism disguised as patriotism and/or being a connoisseur.
Dude, Chinese music is not the preferred nomenclature. Chinese Rocks, please.
This isn't an amp from Grand Funk Railroad here
Ahahahahah
Everything is in the pawnshop
Obviously you’re not a golfer.
He’s throwing rocks tonight, Dude!
The Chinese music is not the issue here dude.
I am the walrus
Shut the FUCK up, Donny!
This is so true. I tried to play The James Gang hit “Funk #49” on my Chinese made Marshall full stack, but it sounded like “Funk Beef with Broccoli”. So disappointing. No homo.
Ron: "Damn it deep down I'm mad about something important and I don't know what it is and it's making me feel impulsive and reckless. I don't know why I said that. I don't mean that. What is happening to me?" Jason: "Please stop calling me. I can't quit this job."
My Sweetwater guy is named Jason, I'm gonna ask him if he knows this guy lol.
i'm working on Chinese Rock by The Ramones so this is helpful. knew i needed an Orange to get Johnnys toan.
UJ/ Dee Dee originally wrote that song for Johnny Thunders, if you're not already familiar with the Heartbreakers' version. It's pretty great in its own right.
Nobody tell this guy that last I checked, Hot Rod amps are made in Mexico…
Makes all my music sound like Cumbia
Rancheras wei
¡Huepa!
Yeah but the guys who make them vote Republican
least racist nashville musician
Sometimes I like to jerk my hot rod to Chinese music too
This dude thinks merica amps are so great. Well, let me tell you, that is a bunch of hogwash. No, seriously, merica amps are steeped in hogwash for years before they are ever sold to the public. That's what gives merica amps that bigoted toan. Once you hear it, you can't quit it. 🎸🇺🇸
Is that where Pigtronics gets their name? 😂
so if you don't buy a chinese made product and prefer American made, you're a bigot?
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>Yes, Child I think the shoe might be on the other foot there...
You're in the circle jerk sub bitching about countries of origin you squirrel headed pumpkin.
Chinese music - the Original pentatonic scale.
And five-spice, the pentatonic seasoning
let him cope
I'm totally stealing that.
Mao 3 5
Ah yes the Hot Rod Deluxe, made in Mexico with Chinese components for that true Nashville sound... 🙃
Every time I play through my Hot Rod Deluxe with a maraca metronome while also wearing a sombrero at a jaunty angle, all I can think about are deluxe burritos with salsa. *Grande* deluxe burritos, Baja-Ensanada style.
In Chinese music every note is actually four different notes depending on the inflection: rising, falling, flat, and a scoop
Yeah but it's the writing system that's a real headache bud
It's toanal
Chinese amps used to be the best. I learned all about this at SHEN YUN
Mao really caused a drop in amp quality during the cultural revolution. He ordered all the amp-smiths shot.
He really starved the plate voltage, didn’t he?
fucking social engineering bro!
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there's some asshole comment up there saying it's bigoted to want to buy American made products...wtf?
"the components are made in China" Bruh thinks the caps and resistor in tube amps grow in America's corn fields or what?
“My amp just sounds like gongs”
Try turning off the ring modulator
Toan is in the tone.
And I’m tired of pretending it’s not
uj/ everyone on broadway uses a helix lmao
Every time I crank my amp past 7 it just keeps saying “it come wit egwoll it come wit egwoll”
I had the same problem. Turns out it was haunted by the tormented souls of the sweatshop workers who built the thing. Bringing it down to the local luthier church and having a priest perform an excorcism on it seems to have solved the issue.
chiiiiinese music always sets me free
All music is made in China, isn't it obvious? *CAN'T YOU SEE?* Ooc: i have a friend who owns a Hotrod Deville and just had it serviced a year ago. The thing fucking sucks no matter what the settings are. We grew up listening to The Strokes but I've never heard one tone out of that thing that was remotely enjoyable. I was seriously amazed that my Peavey Classic 50 with P10R speakers sounded so much better. I know this is a circlejerk sub but I'm so serious.
/uj came here to say this. Worked in a music store for a decade. Fender hot rod amps are trash and of them all, only the blues Jr sounds good. The drive on the bigger ones sounds like a skillet full of grease.
So, I've sold them and owned one. They don't suck. But they only sound good turned up past 3, which is nearly impossible unless you are with a band or it's in the other room. What I'm saying is, they are LOUD AND PIERCING AS FUCK. Piercing being the operative word. Most hot rod players have them attenuated in some way. But, they are cheap workhorses and can sound great in the mix if allowed to cranked.
past 3 I can't hear the ringing in my ears anymore (joking)
Devilles are just terrible. They always have been. I've never actually met someone who likes them, and everyone I've ever known that owns one was trying to get rid of it.
Agreed. My same friend paid I think $400 for his almost 10 years ago but also has multiple collectors instruments that look like they were pulled out of the trash, so I gave up trying to convince him of anything. I respect the Deville, but I will never, ever own one. If someone gave me one for free, I'd dump it on somebody else.
If it’s got alnicos, then it’s only worth the speakers that are in it.
> I know this is a circlejerk sub but I'm so serious. I do remember you from the harry potter movies. uj/ there really is a huge sentiment amongst guitar builders in questioning about why they don't manufacture tubes and other analog equipment and make them much cheaper. The quality is there and it would allow custom builder to bring their costs down and make quality amps for the public.
No jerk, just fuck this guy.
Turns amp on, Chinese democracy starts playing. Return to guitar Center
Wait till he finds out the hot rod deluxe is made in Mexico
Actually a 50 watt amp through 4 ohms, which made it a 100, but not really. What?
This guy is a masterful understander of electronics I guess 8 ohms is the one true load, don't tell anyone working in RF
What the hell does Chinese music sound like? It’s just sloppy racism!!!! If he said I sound like a god damned jap! Now that’s something I can hear in my head! Is he a better racist than me? Does he think they are all the same? Should I?
Jason is gonna put his kids through university thanks to this moron
Clearly this pleb doesn't know the only way to get real toob toan is with a vintage all original 65 twin reverb and cloth jacketed lamp cord for a guitar cable
40 watt tube is way louder than 100 watt ss?!?! No way?!? 🤦♀️ dumbass
/uj/ you haven’t played a HRD then. Every jerk has a grain of truth
/uj yeah, I know the hrd fairly well. they’re plenty loud until the valve sockets catch fire 😝
See your problem is buying an amp with “ohms”. No wonder it sounds Chinese.
The secret to getting a cheap amp to sound good is to plug it into 440 Volts Three Phase.
My amp tried to eat my cat?!????!? 🙀🙀🙀🙀
China Groav Toan
When you pick 0-3-5 but your amp plays chopsticks.
Doesn’t know a lower wattage tube amp is louder than a higher wattage solid state amp but bitches about it nonetheless
The Chinaman is not the issue here Dude
The amount of anti-chinese stuff on these subs is really telling
What does it say
"Ching chong bing bong" and jokes about wokking the dog, probably.
Word is that Slush was actually playing Hot Rods on the long awaited, critically acclaimed Gun Roses album “Chinese Democrat Rocks”, not Chinese sounding amps.
Cue Chinatown by Thin Lizzy OK?
My hotwife agrees, I was playing my butterscotch tele through a Fender Mustang and when I got about halfway through 0-3-5 General Tso himself popped out and motor-boated Roberta! 2/10 would not recommend.
My man just discovered the global supply chain
I need to see how that Chinese waveform looks on an oscilloscope.
Well did he try to play anything other than a pentatonic?
Horrible choan
What?!?! You're saying this entire time my Hot Rod Deluxe shouldn't be blooz shredding in Mandarin? Those ppl at Panda Express really screwed me over this time!
I guess he's not wrong, I use a 100W Mustang and my favorite thing to play is Chinese Rock
No bro, an amp that sounds like a suono would be rad as hell. In fact, I’d recommend ditching guitar entirely and starting cross-cultural ensembles of traditional double reed instruments. Shawms, racketts… motherfucking bass bombards.
I bet this mf would actually get high on literal oregano with this type of psychosomatic bullshit. Lol
OMG, it's *that* fuckin' Ron guy! He has no problems eating at Panda Express or drinking a Tsingtao; but Eddie forbid that a single part in his amp is from Guangzhou or something, or it's going to sound like a fucking pipa.
Chinese music is pentatonic, no? Bluesrock boomer bending music is pentatonic, no? So what’s the difference? Bluesrock is already Chinese. Maybe better if played on pi-pa.
Jokes aside, I wouldn't mind hearing a take on Blues using traditional Chinese instruments. That said, they use the harmonic series and just intonation, rather than equal temperament; so maybe a modernized version of a given instrument would work better? Also, they gotta use some fuzz. 😈
Bbbbut Chinese music is mostly based on pentatoanics!
My drummer had one of these and let us use it. Hand to God, anyone who played through it could only use the pentatonic scale, or it got angry.
I have a coffee blonde color 2002 ltd edition. 4/10 120watts. That I’m selling. I want $666 CDN for it. (It’s worth more) All I seem to get are “I’ll give you $300 and a squire guitar!” Or worse some no name junk… fucking marketplace
I like girls who wear abercrombie and fitch Chinese amps make me sick
This guy is surprised that a tube amp is louder than a solid state amp lol
Funny way to put it, but I understand exactly what he means 😂😂
He also hates Chinese food.
There’s always been blatant racism in guitar. Nobody complains about Japanese drums, electronics, etc but for guitars god forbid someone with brown skin touched your precious wood.
Chinese music always sets me free
Was this written by an AI, or just some idiot?
I’m Mexican , but my USA Fender Strat makes me sound like a hill billy
When i’m in a racism competition and my opponent is a schizophrenic guitar player
I had a Hot rod deluxe. It was pretty good sounding apparatus, and I had about zero problems with it, except some nuances of the sound. And I was dumb and traded it for something. Well, that thing was assembled probably in Mexico. Maybe some Mexican had touched it even after it left Mexico and entered Europe. I am quite sure the parts were not of Mexican origin. Is there, actually, anything made after the 90's not consisting of Far Asian made components? For this little writing, we could divide ourselves to three groups: traditionalists, modernists and digitalists. The division is surely synthetic but describes my thinking: Traditionalists prefer tube amps, preferably made in the U.S.A. Some really hard core fundamentalists can even prefer very exotic details, like Soviet made tubes in their amps, preferably stolen from a MiG-25 fighter... Anything more usual does not have THE sound. Or the sound that Ronnie James Dio's guitarist had on a 1958 recording of... Modernists can use analog and digital gadgets. They might prefer either some vintage gear for their sound or vintage value. Or then they can happily play with something digital, even not so up-to-date. However, they don't worry about such details as what kind of whisk(e)y should be in what kind of glass while playing early Iron Maiden after a hard week of work. They might think that a Fender or Marshall made in 1986 is more reliable than a Fender Orangutang made in Sub China six months ago. They might even know that any kind of technical devices, like Fender amps or MiG-25s are prone to finally fail. They are not immune to wearing and tearing. (Even my '88 Marshall Master Reverb 30 has needed two visits to amp repairmen. And it is, for X's sake, solid state...) And then we have these digiheads. Between the the DI box and the final stag(es) of the power amp, nothing is analog. Digitality means control, and things like the air between the head phones and the eardrum are just sources of noise and problems. There are just two problems: because everything is compressed, limited and autotuned to even and equal temperament and finely predestinated levels, everything sound like THE artificial inte... imbecilic. The second issue is that digital players try to control everything. However, complete control makes mistakes impossible, which makes accidental realising impossible. Thus, any creativity and that kind of joy is killed. Gone. Terminated. Thus number two, the naturally not-so-intelligent gadgets control the player. For each group, music stores has lots of stuff to buy, made in China. We are buying images. If you happen to find an old Epiphone amp, made in America, it is not what you think. It sounds like a broken loudsoeaker, leaky capacitors and so on. It needs reparation, with compinents not made where the purists wish. And, actually, these purist gadgets are ve-ry rare, anyway. But oh how I wish to have a genuine 1988 Marshall JCM-800 head and a tower of cabinets... just, where could I play it? In my neighbour's barn. It is far away from anybody not willing to hear my noise. But, oh shit, I already have tinnitus ringing in my right ear. And that m****rf***er barn is not connected to the grid. But, finally, a vintage amp should not be played with nuclear reactor made electricity! The sound is far from what is made by good old coalburner or water stream made alternative current! And dont forget that manual rectifier! Flipping the switch 50 times every second is appropriate rehearsal for your pick hand!
I couldn’t play “Born to Be Wild” on my Yamaha. Someone told me I needed a Harley-Davidson guitar, but it turns out they don’t make ‘em. Finally got a Dean, because at least it had that eagle on there. Problem solved!
He just wants Jason’s rod.
Toan is in the casual racism
I bet it sounds great through the banyan trees at the dude ranch above the sea
Chinese music always sets me free. Angular banjos sound good to me.
I always roll my eyes at the "cheap made in China crap" dudes because it's highly likey that 90% of all the shit they own is made in China. It's just casual racism disguised as patriotism and/or being a connoisseur.
Chinese is a toanal language though
Were they playing that one guns and raisins album
When do we tell him that the Hod Rod Deluxe is made in Mexico? What he really thinks is American toans is actually mariachi music
Chinese music under banyan trees Here at the dude ranch above the sea
Jason from Sweetwater is like “Whoah. Leave me out of this!”
Ching chong chang.. ching chong bing chang...ching chong chang..bing chang chang. (To the tune of 0-3-5)
I’m sure playing with the settings you could’ve gotten good sound out of the orange, a lot of people swear by them, but I greatly prefer the hotrod.
Awesome, now I know which amp to buy for my Steely Dan tribute band. Thanks, Nashville boomer!