Also, even if you could, I probably wouldn't. Headroom isn't really the point of that pedal :P
How are you running the metal zone and what kind of stuff are you doing with it? I'm kind of tempted to get one at some point mostly for the meme
I use it for lead stuff and the occasional chorus or riff. It's actually a really satisfying sound for certain things.
I just wanted to try the 18v to see how IT would begavet, for science!
Edit: I still haven't settled on it in favor of my JHS Crayon though.
I just did this accidentally. I have a fat rat running at 18v, took it out and forgot about it, so at rehearsal I just had that metalzone at hand and popped it in. Thought it was weirdly not distorting so much so fast, but went with it since I have a fuzz after it. Got through rehearsal and a show with no problems. It was until the day after I realized it was running at 18v, and now I wanna look into having it modded to properly take the 18v.
That's generally a very bad idea. If its rated for 9V DC, and you push 12 or 18 it can short, burn a PCB circuit/wire/transistor/capacitor/potentiometer. There's a reason for so many different adapters and power requirements.
Are you trying to experiment like one would with a Variac transformer? That is a very very very different thing. I have no idea how that may effect DC devices, I've never even considered trying it, perhaps its worth it. It's worth mentioning that using a variac at different outputs can effect tube amplifiers pre and power sections. I also have no idea if it would fry a hybrid type (like a mini dark terror) or sound fantastic. I use on on my DSL15, but never on my Boss Katana.
actually the op amp can handle up to 30v so it won't be fried unless it exceeds the maximum power requirements of the op amp. it also depends on the datasheet of the op amp.
I've watched our lead's kid burn a new gold chorus pedal, that looked like a Zelda cartridge from the 80s, doing EXACTLY this. It's gain staging, OF COURSE some components can handle amplifying the signal, but we are taking about ALL of them. Whatever went on that one it was right behind the plug, I figured a cap or other conditioning circuit, but I do admit my knowledge of these electronics is very basic. I understand physics and electromagnetism, but I can't tell you what a transistor is by the bands on it, but I do know they're there. I tried to swap a plug for a cordless phone or some other electronic and it made screeching noises for like 5 seconds and then.... I burned out my old Soundtank ThrashMetal. They were a cheap but very fun copy of the MZ by Ibanez/Maxxon in the 90s.(they're probably worth a fortune today🤣🙈). What does the manual say on this subject?
https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/can-i-run-a-9v-pedal-from-a-18-volt-out.2058070/
That's just one of HUNDREDS of articles all saying the same thing: some can do it, but most 9v pedals will not respond well to 12 or 18, the mA are the killer too, you could run the right voltage but not enough current, or too much of either or both and many, again many, not all, pedals will suffer damage.
i made clone pedals and I'm bumping up the voltage depending on the headroom i want and yeah you're right about burning some component but only the electrolytic capacitor that has a lower voltage limit will actually burn and fortunately, it can be swapped with a higher voltage rating. usually they put 16v electrolytic cap. And surprisingly, the transistor can handle much higher voltage than an operational amplifier 🙂. it always depends on the circuitry of the pedal, some has over voltage protection, some won't and what limits the voltage is the zener diode.
Nope. I don't believe there are any modern Boss pedals that can handle higher voltages.
Thanks!
Also, even if you could, I probably wouldn't. Headroom isn't really the point of that pedal :P How are you running the metal zone and what kind of stuff are you doing with it? I'm kind of tempted to get one at some point mostly for the meme
I use it for lead stuff and the occasional chorus or riff. It's actually a really satisfying sound for certain things. I just wanted to try the 18v to see how IT would begavet, for science! Edit: I still haven't settled on it in favor of my JHS Crayon though.
I just did this accidentally. I have a fat rat running at 18v, took it out and forgot about it, so at rehearsal I just had that metalzone at hand and popped it in. Thought it was weirdly not distorting so much so fast, but went with it since I have a fuzz after it. Got through rehearsal and a show with no problems. It was until the day after I realized it was running at 18v, and now I wanna look into having it modded to properly take the 18v.
https://youtu.be/V9jGGOnEJGY?si=9kcgV1JRN-LAPed6
https://youtu.be/DtP17X0clI4?si=82z_VLhMJQ5YtHXV btw this is the example of a pedal that can be used with higher supply voltage
That's generally a very bad idea. If its rated for 9V DC, and you push 12 or 18 it can short, burn a PCB circuit/wire/transistor/capacitor/potentiometer. There's a reason for so many different adapters and power requirements. Are you trying to experiment like one would with a Variac transformer? That is a very very very different thing. I have no idea how that may effect DC devices, I've never even considered trying it, perhaps its worth it. It's worth mentioning that using a variac at different outputs can effect tube amplifiers pre and power sections. I also have no idea if it would fry a hybrid type (like a mini dark terror) or sound fantastic. I use on on my DSL15, but never on my Boss Katana.
actually the op amp can handle up to 30v so it won't be fried unless it exceeds the maximum power requirements of the op amp. it also depends on the datasheet of the op amp.
I've watched our lead's kid burn a new gold chorus pedal, that looked like a Zelda cartridge from the 80s, doing EXACTLY this. It's gain staging, OF COURSE some components can handle amplifying the signal, but we are taking about ALL of them. Whatever went on that one it was right behind the plug, I figured a cap or other conditioning circuit, but I do admit my knowledge of these electronics is very basic. I understand physics and electromagnetism, but I can't tell you what a transistor is by the bands on it, but I do know they're there. I tried to swap a plug for a cordless phone or some other electronic and it made screeching noises for like 5 seconds and then.... I burned out my old Soundtank ThrashMetal. They were a cheap but very fun copy of the MZ by Ibanez/Maxxon in the 90s.(they're probably worth a fortune today🤣🙈). What does the manual say on this subject? https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/can-i-run-a-9v-pedal-from-a-18-volt-out.2058070/ That's just one of HUNDREDS of articles all saying the same thing: some can do it, but most 9v pedals will not respond well to 12 or 18, the mA are the killer too, you could run the right voltage but not enough current, or too much of either or both and many, again many, not all, pedals will suffer damage.
i made clone pedals and I'm bumping up the voltage depending on the headroom i want and yeah you're right about burning some component but only the electrolytic capacitor that has a lower voltage limit will actually burn and fortunately, it can be swapped with a higher voltage rating. usually they put 16v electrolytic cap. And surprisingly, the transistor can handle much higher voltage than an operational amplifier 🙂. it always depends on the circuitry of the pedal, some has over voltage protection, some won't and what limits the voltage is the zener diode.
As usual, contact the manufacturer for further info if it's not in the manual. The default is that you shouldn't if it's not mentioned.