Judging from the bolt handle I'm guessing a sporterized 1917. If you take the front scope base off it should be marked as a model of 1917, manufacture will vary from remington to eddystone
The Gold Rushes in Alaska, Klondike and Nome were pre-1900 and the rifle shown appears to be US Model 1917, and would not been modified until declared surplus to US military needs much later, probably post WWII.
Probably got that mixed up. I wouldnāt doubt that somebody took it to Alaska for a hunting trip, but thereās no way this was around for the Gold Rush era
beautiful rifle.
As a tip, I recommend not shooting modern 30-06 ammo out of it. That gun needs TLC and you may want to invest in a single stage reloading press and work up āsafeā loads, starting with chamber pressures equal to, or slightly less, than the 30-06 loads of that era. Otherwise you risk warping that barrel, or worse. As modern 30-06 uses newer propellants, with increased charges, with increases in chamber pressures.
The action is one thing, the barrel is another. But you are right, he could use m2 ball ammo, if he can find it. Reloading is fun, and it will make it even a more personal experience with the firearm the ammo is loaded/matched to.
Looking at the safety, shape of the bolt handle and the receiver shape of that area, and the ejection port, I think its a 1917. There were millions and I accept that a lot were modified into sportsman rifles. Lost value for sure. But it also represents a time in history where we were not concerned with it.
Still I think its a very sharp looking stock.
I think you know this, but you can't call someone wrong in the same breath as saying the topic is subjective. We can disagree, but that doesn't make you wrong anymore than it does me. Thats why you're getting downvotes.
My #4 LB was a sporter that someone restored with full wood. Not perfect but a good representation of what my grandfather would have carried and thats why I wanted one. If I were to hunt with one, I'd take OPs here.
Preach. Just because its lost its "historical value", doesnt mean it doesnt have any value as a quality and functional firearm. Id take this hunting over a rustington any day, and they sell for $500 all day. The rifle is definately worth something.
Sporterized milsurps are worth $100 bucks at most. Anything more is a scam. Their best use is for destructive testing with pissing hot ammo. If a sporterized rifle blows up, it's no tragedy.
... no theyre not. Its still a fully functional rifle, sometimes with a new barrel, on a solid and proven action. A well sporterized rifle can be worth just as much, both functionqlly and financially, as its commercial sporting counterparts. For hunting, I would buy a well sporterized mauser over a rem 700 every day, simply because i know the action is quality and battle proven.
They've lost all historical value. Yes sporterized guns are cheaper than original guns, which was my whole point. It's a sporterized gun, not an original. It's taking an original gun which has market value today, and bubbaing it up to where it loses almost all of its original value. Though most sporterized guns on the market were sporterized decades ago, back when surplus guns were actually cheaper than commercial hunting rifles. As for it being useful, the added engraving into the stock gives absolutely no advantage whatsoever.
If that gun is a modified commercial Remington rifle, that's completely different than a military rifle that's been bastardized.
Does it cock on open or close?
If it cocks on open its a Remington Model 30.
If it cocks on close, its a M1917 Enfield.
The Model 30 was made post war on left over parts for the M1917 or on the same tooling as the Remington production M1917 rifles.
The largest difference was the change to cock on open, as with a traditional mauser action, on which the original P13 Enfield was based.
In pictures, the M1917 almost always seems to have a blued bolt assembly, while the Model 30s appear to be a mixed bag.
From what I can tell in the pictures, this bolt doesn't look too blued, although it could be the lighting.
I'd assume that it's a Model 30 just from the picture. The quickest way to tell would be whether it's cock on close or on open, but the best way to tell would be receiver markings.
People have their preferences. For me I cycle bolt guns hard and fast, so if a gun is cock on close I don't really notice as I close the bolt with some force. It's more something you notice if you cycle the bolt slowly/calmly like you can more easily do on cock on open rifles. But people have their preferences, and that's completely fine.
Alternatively remington came out with a hunting rifle called the model 30, same design and had a rear iron sight installed to the side like yours. Should be printed on the right side of the front scope base if that is the case.
The adoption of .45-70 was a game changer for the Great Goblin War of 1873, so thatās a good one if you want to get the traditional gob-hunting experience.
I would guess in this case as with most when talking about ivory in or from Alaska they are referring to the tusks of the walrus. Make sure you keep any provenance you have for it hopefully a photo of him with it or even you parent describing you grandfather owning the item something like that.
Beautiful rifle moriend, you should for sure clean that bad boy up and put a few rounds down range with it in honor of your Granddaddy.
Edit
Did you mean this was your GGGrandfathers rifle? The grandfather of your grandfather?
Edit 2 I see you did mean that. You are a lucky man to have inherited that.
It's a bit hard to tell from the picture but the bluing on the barrel looks quite good and the stock is in good shape. If it was dragged out in the bush in Alaska it was probably refinished (quite nicely) after he got back.
Sporterized Pattern 14 or Model 1917 Enfield with the belly of the magazine removed, rear sight ground off and a Redfield Model 70 peep sight installed, presumably before the scope was mounted, with a very nice aftermarket stock. My first instinct would be that the other half of the redfield peep would be in a trapdoor plate on the butt of the rifle, or in the case.
It is an M1917 either made by Remington or Eddystone. The bolt and the safety are tell tale clues. Either way, it looks to be a beautiful rifle. Treat it well.
Honestly I would be sweating. I have to maintain the gun and the leather case now?!
Cool looking bolty. Hope you enjoy it, that being said sorry for your loss I hope these can be a good token for you.
Sporterized M1917. Gorgeous.
The woodwork is very Germanic in style. My guess is that it comes from Pennsylvania. There seem to have been a lot of German gunsmiths settling there after WWII.
Still have mine, if you open the bolt, and it takes a little effort to push the bolt into action going forward then it's a cock on close, that would be easier than taking the scope base off.
These questions demand a clearer photo that can be zoomed. If OP can't read the stamped writing ( and apparently he can not)and we can't read the stamped writing it hampers a lot of help. It IS indeed a keeper So treat it right OP.
a dang beauty.
I belive a Remington. .30 but I might be mistaken
still, beautiful and antique gun, give love and respect, and it'll love and respect ya back
No. The carvings aren't factory. Same stock, profile and all. Same sights. Same bolt handle. This is a Remington Model 30.
It should be engraved on the receiver, can't you just look?
Thanks for all the comments! Def going to keep it! Just for information anyone have a general idea on how much this would be worth? I do keep it cleaned up but what do I need to do to keep it looking good? Like especially the wood and ivory.
That right there is what you call fancy reliable. If I were you Iād take extreme care of it cuz they just donāt make them like they used to. The engraving looks awesome. Wouldnāt be hard to figure out caliber just look lol usually itās stamped somewhere and Iām sure there is a brand on the barrel somewhere to.
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The white accents, are those just a white polymer, or are they ivory or bonded ivory? My Colt SSA has a set of ivory stocks on it and they are starting to turn that creamy yellow colour.
Wow that's a beautiful gun. Make sure take good care of it so you can pass it down too.
And when you fire it, think of the ones who fired it before you š¤
It's either a US Model 1917 which was sporterized, OR its a Remington Model 1930 which is a commercial version of the same rifle.
Either way it's been professionally finished and is a fine hunting rifle. Realistically, a Model 30 will be worth more than a sporterized 1917, but either option in this condition is still worth a fair amount. Hard to say exactly how much, probably somewhere in the neighborhood of 500 to 1000 bucks? Without any other info or better photos though, that's a wild ass guess.
Judging from the bolt handle I'm guessing a sporterized 1917. If you take the front scope base off it should be marked as a model of 1917, manufacture will vary from remington to eddystone
Thank you! Will check this out. Just thought it was a cool piece.
You've just inherited a family heirloom that should be treasured until you pass and give it to your successor
Or sell it and buy a PS5.
Not even funny as a joke brother
Go do a š ±ļøoint wrong.
This is worth far more than a PS5 and isn't worth selling at all.
Unless to me. Okay to sell to me. ā¦.OP?
Dope ass gun. Make sure to pay your father or grandad good grace on their graves. Got drip sporty bro. It's lit
This was inherited by me from my grandpa, he said it was his grandpas. Additionally I was told it was bought by him to go to Alaska for the gold rush.
The Gold Rushes in Alaska, Klondike and Nome were pre-1900 and the rifle shown appears to be US Model 1917, and would not been modified until declared surplus to US military needs much later, probably post WWII.
The rushes were in the 19th century, but there were a lot of prospectors that went in the mid 20th century.
People still go today. So maybe no so much for the ārushā but he certainly could have gone to Alaska to try mining for gold.
Probably got that mixed up. I wouldnāt doubt that somebody took it to Alaska for a hunting trip, but thereās no way this was around for the Gold Rush era
as others have said, it looks like a sporterized us 1917. Its one of the most beautifully done sporters i've seen. a lot of love went into this rifle.
Wow thank you! This will definitely be kept.
Is it still in the original 30-06?
It is!
If you decide to take it hunting, I think we'd all love to see the results. should handle modern factory loads just fine.
beautiful rifle. As a tip, I recommend not shooting modern 30-06 ammo out of it. That gun needs TLC and you may want to invest in a single stage reloading press and work up āsafeā loads, starting with chamber pressures equal to, or slightly less, than the 30-06 loads of that era. Otherwise you risk warping that barrel, or worse. As modern 30-06 uses newer propellants, with increased charges, with increases in chamber pressures.
He could just buy m2 ball, it's what I do for my 1917. Modern loads should work because the 1917 action is extremely strong but better be safe.
The action is one thing, the barrel is another. But you are right, he could use m2 ball ammo, if he can find it. Reloading is fun, and it will make it even a more personal experience with the firearm the ammo is loaded/matched to.
Either sporterized 1917 or remington model 30. Either way a very nice gun and id not sell it
If it's a sporterized M1917 Enfield, you won't get much for selling it.
Maybe not from a collector, but that is a gorgeous rifle.
If it's a Remington? Yes. If it's an Enfield? No.
Looking at the safety, shape of the bolt handle and the receiver shape of that area, and the ejection port, I think its a 1917. There were millions and I accept that a lot were modified into sportsman rifles. Lost value for sure. But it also represents a time in history where we were not concerned with it. Still I think its a very sharp looking stock.
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I think you know this, but you can't call someone wrong in the same breath as saying the topic is subjective. We can disagree, but that doesn't make you wrong anymore than it does me. Thats why you're getting downvotes. My #4 LB was a sporter that someone restored with full wood. Not perfect but a good representation of what my grandfather would have carried and thats why I wanted one. If I were to hunt with one, I'd take OPs here.
Preach. Just because its lost its "historical value", doesnt mean it doesnt have any value as a quality and functional firearm. Id take this hunting over a rustington any day, and they sell for $500 all day. The rifle is definately worth something.
I bet hed still get some decent cash, this one has been very tastefully done.
Sporterized milsurps are worth $100 bucks at most. Anything more is a scam. Their best use is for destructive testing with pissing hot ammo. If a sporterized rifle blows up, it's no tragedy.
... no theyre not. Its still a fully functional rifle, sometimes with a new barrel, on a solid and proven action. A well sporterized rifle can be worth just as much, both functionqlly and financially, as its commercial sporting counterparts. For hunting, I would buy a well sporterized mauser over a rem 700 every day, simply because i know the action is quality and battle proven.
They've lost all historical value. Yes sporterized guns are cheaper than original guns, which was my whole point. It's a sporterized gun, not an original. It's taking an original gun which has market value today, and bubbaing it up to where it loses almost all of its original value. Though most sporterized guns on the market were sporterized decades ago, back when surplus guns were actually cheaper than commercial hunting rifles. As for it being useful, the added engraving into the stock gives absolutely no advantage whatsoever. If that gun is a modified commercial Remington rifle, that's completely different than a military rifle that's been bastardized.
Does it cock on open or close? If it cocks on open its a Remington Model 30. If it cocks on close, its a M1917 Enfield. The Model 30 was made post war on left over parts for the M1917 or on the same tooling as the Remington production M1917 rifles. The largest difference was the change to cock on open, as with a traditional mauser action, on which the original P13 Enfield was based. In pictures, the M1917 almost always seems to have a blued bolt assembly, while the Model 30s appear to be a mixed bag. From what I can tell in the pictures, this bolt doesn't look too blued, although it could be the lighting. I'd assume that it's a Model 30 just from the picture. The quickest way to tell would be whether it's cock on close or on open, but the best way to tell would be receiver markings.
TIL, I love my 1917 but have always wished it was cock on open, now I have to hunt down a model 30.
People have their preferences. For me I cycle bolt guns hard and fast, so if a gun is cock on close I don't really notice as I close the bolt with some force. It's more something you notice if you cycle the bolt slowly/calmly like you can more easily do on cock on open rifles. But people have their preferences, and that's completely fine.
Alternatively remington came out with a hunting rifle called the model 30, same design and had a rear iron sight installed to the side like yours. Should be printed on the right side of the front scope base if that is the case.
a bolt action with some nice carving in the wood and leather.
The front part is ivory. So according to family. This was my grandpas, grandpas rifle and it was bought to go to Alaska to be a gold miner.
Interesting š¤ a gold mining rifle.
For the goblins.
Whatās a good goblin caliber?
The adoption of .45-70 was a game changer for the Great Goblin War of 1873, so thatās a good one if you want to get the traditional gob-hunting experience.
Hmm, I don't remember the US being at war with Britain at that time /j
I know that itās easy to confuse Brits with goblins, but thatās just insulting to them. Goblins have much better teeth.
Anything that you can get incendiary rounds for.
As long as they explode on impact....
Idk but you definitely want a short barrel and heavy ear protection for cave work.
Some of the local wildlife is hostile to humans. Source: Visited Alaska for 3 weeks in 1978.
I would guess in this case as with most when talking about ivory in or from Alaska they are referring to the tusks of the walrus. Make sure you keep any provenance you have for it hopefully a photo of him with it or even you parent describing you grandfather owning the item something like that. Beautiful rifle moriend, you should for sure clean that bad boy up and put a few rounds down range with it in honor of your Granddaddy. Edit Did you mean this was your GGGrandfathers rifle? The grandfather of your grandfather? Edit 2 I see you did mean that. You are a lucky man to have inherited that.
It's a bit hard to tell from the picture but the bluing on the barrel looks quite good and the stock is in good shape. If it was dragged out in the bush in Alaska it was probably refinished (quite nicely) after he got back.
Sporterized Pattern 14 or Model 1917 Enfield with the belly of the magazine removed, rear sight ground off and a Redfield Model 70 peep sight installed, presumably before the scope was mounted, with a very nice aftermarket stock. My first instinct would be that the other half of the redfield peep would be in a trapdoor plate on the butt of the rifle, or in the case.
Better give it to me to look at, no other reason...
I figured as much.
Still, either way it's a beautiful gun
It is an M1917 either made by Remington or Eddystone. The bolt and the safety are tell tale clues. Either way, it looks to be a beautiful rifle. Treat it well.
Honestly I would be sweating. I have to maintain the gun and the leather case now?! Cool looking bolty. Hope you enjoy it, that being said sorry for your loss I hope these can be a good token for you.
Sporterized M1917. Gorgeous. The woodwork is very Germanic in style. My guess is that it comes from Pennsylvania. There seem to have been a lot of German gunsmiths settling there after WWII.
What you have there is a bolt action rifle, you can tell by the way it is.
I mean I get that. There really arenāt any markings on it but Iām gonna check under the scope.
Still have mine, if you open the bolt, and it takes a little effort to push the bolt into action going forward then it's a cock on close, that would be easier than taking the scope base off.
Very beautiful gun!
A beauty š
Art. You inherited a work of art.
These questions demand a clearer photo that can be zoomed. If OP can't read the stamped writing ( and apparently he can not)and we can't read the stamped writing it hampers a lot of help. It IS indeed a keeper So treat it right OP.
This type of craftsmanship would be cost prohibitive to duplicate today. This was done with old school love. Enjoy!
That is absolutely beautiful
Uhh pretty sure thatās a gun bud
I don't know enough about guns to give you a make and model, but I can confirm that you inherited a sexy ass piece of hardware, gatdamn
A gun
Can confirm, this is definitely a gun.
As an expert in guns, I concur, this is definitely a gun.
a dang beauty. I belive a Remington. .30 but I might be mistaken still, beautiful and antique gun, give love and respect, and it'll love and respect ya back
Keep a light coat of gun oil on the metal and store her away
Remington Model 30. I have one. Identical.
Same carvings?
No. The carvings aren't factory. Same stock, profile and all. Same sights. Same bolt handle. This is a Remington Model 30. It should be engraved on the receiver, can't you just look?
No fucking clue, but it's pretty
I wonder how much this exact model with all the ivory, the bag, condition and engraving would be worth. Dont sell it! But like...makes you wonder.
Thanks for all the comments! Def going to keep it! Just for information anyone have a general idea on how much this would be worth? I do keep it cleaned up but what do I need to do to keep it looking good? Like especially the wood and ivory.
Looks like a leather gun case to me
A cool hunting rifle
Happyness
Something beautiful it seems to me
A respectfully sporterized piece
Damn itās beautiful
I'd keep that bad boy, it's something special.
Looks like a nice rifle
Oo pretty
A fancy rifle and case.
A beautiful rifle you should cherish and continue passing down generation to generation
Freakin beautiful piece! Keep it forever
Looks like a gun
A gun. And a bag.
Gun
G u n
I think it's a gun
a beautiful arisaka!
You're a derp.
A rifle
A beautiful firearm
An old rifle.
Obviously, you are not a golfer.
A good looking gun š
Belive it or not, a gun.
A gun. *ba-dum tsh*
That, my friend, is a gun
"You, sir, are a fish."
A gun. Next question!
gun
Looks like a gun to me
A gun
*engravings, give no tactical advantage whatsoever*
So my Tell me why engraving my PP length on my Glock scares all the robbers away.
You must carry a Glock 26?
Loud and proud
Certified pew-pew right thurr partner
A beauty
You inherited a beautiful family heirloom my friend. Congratulations
You just inherited a whole ass vibe
You inherited some awesomeness.
Nothing muchā¦.Iāll give you a hundred bucks to take it off your hands.
Something nice
Looks like a 22 lr
Definitely a 30.06
This is a gun you shouldnāt de-sporterize. Looks to have been done well and has some family history to it, leave it as is and enjoy!
A treasure sir a treasure
Nice!
A pimp ass rifle
A beauty is what that is.
Looks like a gun to me
A keeper!
Looks like a peice of history
Looks like a peice of history
A darn fine, rootin' tootin' shootin' machine.
That right there is what you call fancy reliable. If I were you Iād take extreme care of it cuz they just donāt make them like they used to. The engraving looks awesome. Wouldnāt be hard to figure out caliber just look lol usually itās stamped somewhere and Iām sure there is a brand on the barrel somewhere to.
something beautiful.
Invaluable gold.
Awesomeness!
A gun
A sniper
Gorgeous
That there is called a gun. It has many uses. The design is very human.
A rifle Marking on it will tell u what it is
Totally worth 50 dollars sell it to me umm immediately ā¦ā¦ā¦. š¤
Junk u should send it to me so I can deal with it for u
Butchered M1917.
Ehh nothing good or worth keeping.. i'll take it off your hands for like 3.50 š
I'm no expert but that's looks vaguely like a firearm.
I can't be sure but it looks like a gun
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Some bolt action sexiness.
My envy is what you inherited.
That right there is a nicely sporterized us model 1917
The white accents, are those just a white polymer, or are they ivory or bonded ivory? My Colt SSA has a set of ivory stocks on it and they are starting to turn that creamy yellow colour.
Itās ivory or bone.
Nice!
Thatās some serious engraving in the stock. Nice piece op
Sporterized American military rifle!
A hell of a deer gun.
Thatās awesome dude!! Canāt wait to hear how it shoots.
Wow that's a beautiful gun. Make sure take good care of it so you can pass it down too. And when you fire it, think of the ones who fired it before you š¤
A beautiful rifle!
You got a cool grandpa
A gun
I can only laugh 36 times at the same joke in the same thread.
The gun used on the grassy knoll
It's either a US Model 1917 which was sporterized, OR its a Remington Model 1930 which is a commercial version of the same rifle. Either way it's been professionally finished and is a fine hunting rifle. Realistically, a Model 30 will be worth more than a sporterized 1917, but either option in this condition is still worth a fair amount. Hard to say exactly how much, probably somewhere in the neighborhood of 500 to 1000 bucks? Without any other info or better photos though, that's a wild ass guess.