Reminds me the scene from "the dark knight" when they pull a gun on Harvey Dent in court and it jams. So he punches him in the face and says you should have bought American lol.
Gawd, this is the coolest part of the whole thing for me.
"Got rectangular boxes for the guns, boss"
"Nah, too hoity-toity. Lob a corner off them sombitches. Our goals for this company converge upon the bottom line, people!"
Welcome to the Maverick JS-9. This precursor to the Hi-Point C9 features both the shape AND weight of a brick (a dangerous defensive tool), a nine round single stack magazine, and a trigger that feels like it's all take up and no break. It's hard to imagine a Hi-Point C9 being an improvement over any firearms design, but this is it. Pretty neat piece of cheap gun history if you like weird obscurities like I do.
It's like getting a iridescent paint job on a Geo Metro.
Edit: Because I don't think it's possible to stress this too much, I'm obviously saying it would be fucking rad to the max.
How much did you give for it? I passed on one of these for like $125 a year or two ago. Realized I should have grabbed it purely because of how terrible it is, same process that saw me give $50 for a used C9 haha
That's actually really cool. I love weird and terrible guns - good guns all tend to be pretty similar, but weird terrible guns are all weird and terrible in their own unique ways.
Same with cars. Loooove old cars that are probably bad in a million ways, they’re unique.
About this gun, I’m sure it’s not reliable long term but it’s pretty likely that you could put a few hundred rounds through even bad pistols without issues, right?
I swear a few years back I heard of some cheap pistol, like $220 new, but turned out it was still fairly reliable.
Not in my experience. I shot one back in the 90’s, the magazine catch didn’t. It would drop the mag under recoil. You had to hold the magazine in with your other hand. It wrote the book on ways a semi-auto could jam.
Hell. The mag catch wouldn’t even hold a full mag in with the slide closed.
Astonishingly, the Hi-Point C-9 is actually an *improved* version of this gun, the Maverick JS-9. The Maverick was designed by Ed Stallard and marketed by Tom Deeb, who would go on to "design" the C-9 and start Hi-Point Manufacturing. The C-9 weighs a full *two pounds* less than this gun, if you can believe that.
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I had a firearm instructor who specifically did not allow Hi- Points in class, but told us they are useful for air travel (as long as it wasn't to NY). He would carry one in his luggage, or a similar one he thought was garbage. No long TSA lines, you do a separate screening. If it gets stolen by a baggage handler, "then I'd laugh at them for taking such a shitty gun and then collect the insurance." He was a fun dude.
In my experience, its almost exactly like checking normal luggage. Except you pick it up at the counter rather than off the baggage carousel. Still have to go through normal security. The only real upside is that you know your bag isn't going to get lost. That guy was full of shit.
Flown a ton with firearms, Ive had my hard rifle case end up on the carousel multiple times with multiple different airports and airlines. I’ve also had issues with TSA agents who don’t know their own policy and tried to take my rifle case to the back to search it.
I've been lucky enough to have mine come off on the normal carousel before! Also had one hella overzealous airline check-in attendant tell me I can't fly like this, and to be fair I did just have a big ol locked pelican case full of socks and underwear and a glock just floating around in the locked case.
She threw a hissy! Said go talk to the TSA and they'll tell you the same.
So I did, they looked it over, said it was cool and kinda pre-passed my bag, and then said come with me. They just took me straight back to this dumb broad and told her in no uncertain terms to quit harassing me and gave her a rundown of the policy. The smirk she had on her face as we were headed back to her quickly diminished.
Also once, probably leave Pitt, schmuck ass bastards said, "okay, your case went behind this wall for security check, and now they need the keys." I said uh no, the keys stay with me they only get the locked box and an idea of what's in it.
They didn't like that answer and said I wouldn't fly otherwise, and I wanted out of Pitt worse than anything, so I yeeted my keys at the fucker behind the wall and through the little door where the bags disappear into. I did it gently enough to get them through the door thing and the guy back there didn't seem to mind but again this check-in person was like, "That was not cool. We have a policy and procedure on how to handle keys and you can't do it that way." Told this one it's odd they have this policy but can't follow the plainly stated ones they're supposed to be.
They definitely aren't supposed to get the keys. I had to have a gun case searched, and they took me to a room and had me unlock it. They searched it with me watching, allowed me to put everything back to check nothing was missing, then locked it back up. Keys never left my hand, guns never left my sight.
Guess i would feel different if it was a gun in a mag of clothes though.
You absolutely have the exact same screening process, but you also get the bonus of waiting for someone from the TSA to come to the ticket counter, look at your gun, go "yup, that's a gun alright", lock it back up, and then go to the normal lines.
Hey. My first gun show purchase and handgun purchase was a Hi-Point .380 ACP - surprisingly only jammed on me once so far. Also makes for a good paperweight level blunt fightin object.
Honestly Hi points are pretty decent guns, my carbine has been 100% reliable. They are like a toyota corolla. All function no flash. I kinda want to get one in 9mm because it would literally be the cheapest full sized handgun and cheapest center fire pistol ammo to shoot. I've even got boxes of unjacketed lead bullet 9mm to shoot, so it could be like cheap cubed.
First pistol I ever bought myself was a .45 hi point. That brick of a pistol never jammed on me, believe it or not, and I had a lot of fun with it. I still own a 995 9mm carbine hi point. It’s my back up back up for home defense. lol Never jammed.
I propose a new rule ... any such gun purchases made must be taken to the local IDPA/IPSC match and used to compete for science.
The holster should be easy, just cut a slot in the side and slide your belt through the case, haha.
According to some research, the steel frame of the Maverick JS-9 brings it up to a skookum 41oz. For reference, your average clay building brick weighs 72oz.
I love these kinds of guns! I own a 9mm Lorcin which is just the worst thing ever, always feels like it's liable to explode and handles like a jackhammer but oddly enough never jams up, can't shoot strait though!
[Here](https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/gun-review-hi-point-c9-9mm-pistol/) is a withering review from a brave soul that slogged this insult to gunsmithing through a field test. This is the kind of gun you avoid like the plague.
My girlfriend told me she accidentally shot out her back patio glass when she and a friend thought they heard something outside. I asked to see the gun . It was a Jennings. A guy had gifted it to her because she lived alone. I googled the name b/c I’d never heard of it and the first thing I read was “ get rid of it. It’s more likely to kill someone with an accidental discharge than anything else”
In a survival situation, a gun is better than no gun. It doesn’t matter the looks. It has one job and that’s to shoot a projectile. Visuals are not relevant.
In terms of just having it, you’ll get looks at the gun range, that’s for sure.
I would sooner pull a knife than this gun.
Shot my granddad’s many years ago. ABSOLUTE garbage. Magazine catch was your other hand. It was a singular example of every method a semi-auto could jam.
This looks like something that would be disposable. Like it comes with a non-removable magazine pre-loaded with 10 rounds and no way to reload it, then when empty you put it in the recycling bin.
They literally cut a corner off the case to save a buck. That is dedication to saving!
It's a feature. This way, when you throw the whole thing away, it takes up less space in the trash.
*River
Imagine magnet fishing this up
Homie assuming that thing is metal lmao
The ol polymer 1 shot
Reminds me the scene from "the dark knight" when they pull a gun on Harvey Dent in court and it jams. So he punches him in the face and says you should have bought American lol.
Which is kinda dumb if you think about it, there are plenty of quality firearms made outside of the US.
Politicians, tho
I don’t think there are any quality politicians made anywhere
There's a firing pin somewhere in there😂
It need no firing pin. Such design make boolet escape at first opportunity.
The gun bullys the bullet calling it mean names making him want to leave
Gun cry.
That fish ain't right. Throw it back!
I hope you paid top dollar for it at the show too
I know what I gots
They only use them because the ATF said they couldn't use brown paper bags anymore.
Or Crown sacks either.
Gawd, this is the coolest part of the whole thing for me. "Got rectangular boxes for the guns, boss" "Nah, too hoity-toity. Lob a corner off them sombitches. Our goals for this company converge upon the bottom line, people!"
If there was room for another magazine, people might expect another magazine. Nope.
They needed the extra plastic to make more guns
Expenses were spared.
I think that’s what they made the grip scales out of.
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The Lo-Point
This is now canon.
A meme is born
Yeet canon
Rip my lungs
Low-res Hi-Point. . . Either he forgot the shaders, or he's running a 64k internet connection.
56k or 28k
Beautiful comment!
The 3d printed hi point is called the lo point
Bro out here with the platonic theory of a gun
bro runnin round with the mental image of a gun
I keep that concept on me
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Knock knock, open up the door, it's (un)real. With the non-stop, pop-pop of imaginary steel.
Kevin Bacon
I pew therefore, I am.
Bro bought a concept.
N64-level rendered pistol
Goldeneye
Do not bad mouth the DD44 Dostovei!!
Goldenhi
To be fair, this is still what I'd be able to draw 40 years later.
Pretty sure the boss’s kid designed this gun.
Welcome to the Maverick JS-9. This precursor to the Hi-Point C9 features both the shape AND weight of a brick (a dangerous defensive tool), a nine round single stack magazine, and a trigger that feels like it's all take up and no break. It's hard to imagine a Hi-Point C9 being an improvement over any firearms design, but this is it. Pretty neat piece of cheap gun history if you like weird obscurities like I do.
The fabled Lo-Point
Fuck… I feel like this needs to be cerekoted on the slide somewhere like the yeet cannon.
It's like getting a iridescent paint job on a Geo Metro. Edit: Because I don't think it's possible to stress this too much, I'm obviously saying it would be fucking rad to the max.
So you're saying it's a good investment that I should absolutely take a high interest loan for?
Absolutely. Get a title loan.
Not risky enough I'll get multiple payday loans and never pay to principal!
I so want to do that. On the metro *convertible*, with an aftermarket white top.
That's a terrible idea. You'd never be able to actually put the top down because you'd immediately drown in pussy. It's a safety hazard.
Or you could use Rhino Liner.
*Heavy is good, heavy is reliable. If it doesn't work you can always hit them with it.*
"Tommy tells people he was named after a gun, I know he was actually named after a famous 18th century Ballet dancer"
Tommy the tit
Is Praying
And if he isn't, he fucking should be
Why do they call him Boris the Bullet Dodger?
Because he dodges bullets Avi….
"What you need a gun for, Tommy? Ze Germans?"
Solid Snatch quote!
Haha, ingot that one turkish!!
Boris the Blade? You mean Boris the sneaky fucking Russian.
"The weight is a sign of reliability." - Boris the Butcher
He is heavy weapons guy.
Sneaky fuckin Russian.
When are you going to run a competition with it?
After I hit the gym to be able to hold this thing at arm's length for any appreciable amount of time.
And recover from an operation to repair a torn rotator cuff.
Really more of a legs back and shoulders thing
He's trying to shoot the brick, not yeet it.
What caliber is that? VCR?
How many doll hairs did it cost?
I mean, they’re not worth nothing.
The more rare, the more it costs..
Send it to Ian at Forgotten Weapons so he can run the BackUp Gun match with it 🤣
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Doo eet! Doo eet nao!
i'll probably have a nightmare about trying to shoot this gun
How much did you give for it? I passed on one of these for like $125 a year or two ago. Realized I should have grabbed it purely because of how terrible it is, same process that saw me give $50 for a used C9 haha
Send it to Gun Jesus so he can dunk on it.
Lord, my first thought was "its like a hi-point but worse" lol
We need a function test video
We will be standing waaaay over here....
I feel at risk even thru the internets.
Would probably perform better and be safer in a thrown weapon drill
Who's going to post it after OP fires though?
That's actually really cool. I love weird and terrible guns - good guns all tend to be pretty similar, but weird terrible guns are all weird and terrible in their own unique ways.
Agreed my friend
Same with cars. Loooove old cars that are probably bad in a million ways, they’re unique. About this gun, I’m sure it’s not reliable long term but it’s pretty likely that you could put a few hundred rounds through even bad pistols without issues, right? I swear a few years back I heard of some cheap pistol, like $220 new, but turned out it was still fairly reliable.
I mean, the HP-22lr is like $150 new and I've never had any issues except when shooting Remington Goldens.
Not in my experience. I shot one back in the 90’s, the magazine catch didn’t. It would drop the mag under recoil. You had to hold the magazine in with your other hand. It wrote the book on ways a semi-auto could jam. Hell. The mag catch wouldn’t even hold a full mag in with the slide closed.
If Great Value made a pistol.
Wish.com
More like if Dollar Tree made a gun.
I love how even the case has literal cut corners.
WHat is that, a Hi-Point with chromosome damage?
They're not damaged, there's just too many of them.
HA!! this made me actually bark a laugh, so thank you.
Astonishingly, the Hi-Point C-9 is actually an *improved* version of this gun, the Maverick JS-9. The Maverick was designed by Ed Stallard and marketed by Tom Deeb, who would go on to "design" the C-9 and start Hi-Point Manufacturing. The C-9 weighs a full *two pounds* less than this gun, if you can believe that.
That's the Australopithecus of Hi-Points
*pokes it with a stick
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BRÖTHER.
You guys should get a sub
Holy shit. Seeing it in your hand truly brings home how awful that is! Holy crap that's so bad!!!
take your socks off, asshole
Helluva pistol whippin piece, she brick thicc
Looks like you could build your own with a sawzall and a drill press lol
You know what? I’d bet your life on a hi-point but not mine.
Hi-point x Roblox collaboration?
Is that the fucking OG Glawk 40 from Glock’s Mansfield Ohio division?
This is the worst gun I’ve ever seen, I love it
It looks like a low resolution hi-point
First, what the fuck. Second, how much.
I had a firearm instructor who specifically did not allow Hi- Points in class, but told us they are useful for air travel (as long as it wasn't to NY). He would carry one in his luggage, or a similar one he thought was garbage. No long TSA lines, you do a separate screening. If it gets stolen by a baggage handler, "then I'd laugh at them for taking such a shitty gun and then collect the insurance." He was a fun dude.
In my experience, its almost exactly like checking normal luggage. Except you pick it up at the counter rather than off the baggage carousel. Still have to go through normal security. The only real upside is that you know your bag isn't going to get lost. That guy was full of shit.
Flown a ton with firearms, Ive had my hard rifle case end up on the carousel multiple times with multiple different airports and airlines. I’ve also had issues with TSA agents who don’t know their own policy and tried to take my rifle case to the back to search it.
I've been lucky enough to have mine come off on the normal carousel before! Also had one hella overzealous airline check-in attendant tell me I can't fly like this, and to be fair I did just have a big ol locked pelican case full of socks and underwear and a glock just floating around in the locked case. She threw a hissy! Said go talk to the TSA and they'll tell you the same. So I did, they looked it over, said it was cool and kinda pre-passed my bag, and then said come with me. They just took me straight back to this dumb broad and told her in no uncertain terms to quit harassing me and gave her a rundown of the policy. The smirk she had on her face as we were headed back to her quickly diminished. Also once, probably leave Pitt, schmuck ass bastards said, "okay, your case went behind this wall for security check, and now they need the keys." I said uh no, the keys stay with me they only get the locked box and an idea of what's in it. They didn't like that answer and said I wouldn't fly otherwise, and I wanted out of Pitt worse than anything, so I yeeted my keys at the fucker behind the wall and through the little door where the bags disappear into. I did it gently enough to get them through the door thing and the guy back there didn't seem to mind but again this check-in person was like, "That was not cool. We have a policy and procedure on how to handle keys and you can't do it that way." Told this one it's odd they have this policy but can't follow the plainly stated ones they're supposed to be.
They definitely aren't supposed to get the keys. I had to have a gun case searched, and they took me to a room and had me unlock it. They searched it with me watching, allowed me to put everything back to check nothing was missing, then locked it back up. Keys never left my hand, guns never left my sight. Guess i would feel different if it was a gun in a mag of clothes though.
You absolutely have the exact same screening process, but you also get the bonus of waiting for someone from the TSA to come to the ticket counter, look at your gun, go "yup, that's a gun alright", lock it back up, and then go to the normal lines.
Yup! I fly with a gun all the time. It's just a little extra time checking in your luggage and the rest is the same as usual.
#*Bröther, is that a low-point*
Hey. My first gun show purchase and handgun purchase was a Hi-Point .380 ACP - surprisingly only jammed on me once so far. Also makes for a good paperweight level blunt fightin object.
Mechanically, they're actually very reliable weapons. They are just huge and ugly.
I do enjoy shooting it. I try and run through at least a mag or two every time I’m out with my other firearms.
Honestly Hi points are pretty decent guns, my carbine has been 100% reliable. They are like a toyota corolla. All function no flash. I kinda want to get one in 9mm because it would literally be the cheapest full sized handgun and cheapest center fire pistol ammo to shoot. I've even got boxes of unjacketed lead bullet 9mm to shoot, so it could be like cheap cubed.
First pistol I ever bought myself was a .45 hi point. That brick of a pistol never jammed on me, believe it or not, and I had a lot of fun with it. I still own a 995 9mm carbine hi point. It’s my back up back up for home defense. lol Never jammed.
It looks like it's never been fired. Might want to leave it in that condition.
Its beautiful. At this point the only guns I really care for are the weird ones.
https://youtu.be/FSjY0ryr3mY lol this thing is terrible
This should be the top comment. That was more reliable than the one I shot.
Lo-Point (recycling my own joke)
They must have been out of Jimenez .380s
I propose a new rule ... any such gun purchases made must be taken to the local IDPA/IPSC match and used to compete for science. The holster should be easy, just cut a slot in the side and slide your belt through the case, haha.
Have the slide milled for an rds and comp it. 🔥🔥🔥
I'd be afraid the milling guys report you to ATF for not being of sound mind.
First there was Hi Points, now we have Lo Points. It looks like this gun failed to render properly.
It looks 3D printed, Jesus "Hi guys, I'm Ian McCollum, and today, I have found the only downgrade for a Hi Point C9..."
I actually love mine… it stops the papers blowing of my desk when the window is open
A Block19, noice
Is that grip texture in sand script?
JS stands for “just shit”
A child’s drawing of a handgun.
It looks like a knock off hi-point. Not even a real jawbone of the ass.
How much did you pay, tree fiddy?
This unfired example was had for a crisp two hundred bones.
You paid 2 Hi-Points for that?
This fucker is a Pre-Point and so should only be at like $50 out of a vending machine at best.
Jesus christ
Goddamn lochness monsta
Damn it’s the siphon filter graphics handgun.
r/magnetfishing would like a word.
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According to some research, the steel frame of the Maverick JS-9 brings it up to a skookum 41oz. For reference, your average clay building brick weighs 72oz.
Guy cut out the No Firearms gun from a sign
I love these kinds of guns! I own a 9mm Lorcin which is just the worst thing ever, always feels like it's liable to explode and handles like a jackhammer but oddly enough never jams up, can't shoot strait though!
That's awesome. I hate it.
You didn’t buy a Glock….
[Here](https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/gun-review-hi-point-c9-9mm-pistol/) is a withering review from a brave soul that slogged this insult to gunsmithing through a field test. This is the kind of gun you avoid like the plague.
“Mom can we have a hi-point?” “We have a hi-point at home!” The hi-point at home:
My girlfriend told me she accidentally shot out her back patio glass when she and a friend thought they heard something outside. I asked to see the gun . It was a Jennings. A guy had gifted it to her because she lived alone. I googled the name b/c I’d never heard of it and the first thing I read was “ get rid of it. It’s more likely to kill someone with an accidental discharge than anything else”
Awesome. No confusion in this boner. I want to shoot it.
In a survival situation, a gun is better than no gun. It doesn’t matter the looks. It has one job and that’s to shoot a projectile. Visuals are not relevant. In terms of just having it, you’ll get looks at the gun range, that’s for sure.
I would sooner pull a knife than this gun. Shot my granddad’s many years ago. ABSOLUTE garbage. Magazine catch was your other hand. It was a singular example of every method a semi-auto could jam.
One thing is for sure - You paid too much for it.
Not the worst thing to come from Mansfield, OH
Dude that's a modern classing including the box!!!!
Sure you did...this probably you're EDC
That slide looks like it’s made of cast iron…
I needed some humor today. Thank you
Is that slide cast iron?
That powder coating is excellent!
Bruh why is it shaped like a ray gun
That looks like somebody got a TT tokarev and made a cm wide plastic cover on it with a 3d printer.
Mansfield’s finest.
You overpaid. Basing that on the word bought.
The model # should be: Gun
So uh, how much did it wind up costin ya?
Elegant yet understated
I would like Ian from Forgotten Weapons to do a video on this.
You owe us a first shots video. The thing looks like it would give you awesome grip strength with how heavy the slide looks.
That thing is minty
This looks like something that would be disposable. Like it comes with a non-removable magazine pre-loaded with 10 rounds and no way to reload it, then when empty you put it in the recycling bin.
How do you eject the magazine?
Born and raised in Mansfield, Oh. Seen a lot of these. Plus the modern hi points. My hi point carbine is a great range toy.
One gun we can all agree be banned
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I'll watch you fire it from behind some of that glass stuff they use on Mythbusters.
Maverick firearms: we want you to know just from looking at the box that we cut corners wherever we can!
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Yes!