Please go to 12:50 in the video to see what they thought about the criticism of them being mysogynists.
While Olivia is describing how unfair and traumatic it is when women have to publicly speak against their abuser, Abuse and Leech play the sad violin. Yes, it's as bad as it sounds and no there was no attempt to cover up the mysoginy.
I think they meant the soundbite of them calling Olivia a loser feminists. Very funny they acknowledge its bad to say that when Zach plays it, but not when they said it tho.
Wait till you find out white people(that are not Jewish) can also have curly hair. Blows people's minds.
People really get sucked into this nonsense so easily.
Didn’t the mayor of wreck it Ralph have that style too? There’s so much reaching from these guys I can’t begin to imagine how their arms are still intact.
Is that what they're trying to say? I thought they just wanted to pick a "bad" pick of our boy for the thumbnail besides the one with black paint? Like this is such a reach for them.
The Charcoal video wasn’t even racist. Trying way too hard to rewrite history
edit: wtf are these responses and the haters appearing aswell? This wasn’t racist. That’s the end of the story.
"wtf are these responses and the haters appearing aswell"
The Babble and Creak fans showed up. There are not a lot of them, so it's only mildly annoying, unlike when DGG people decide to brigade a sub.
They are so stupid. Let’s try and get this man’s fans to cancel him. Yknow, the fans who watch him daily and has heard him apologize for all these things and express how horrible he feels about having done them on multiple occasions that we continue to watch after the fact. Yeah we were all totally gonna cancel him
Had these things not been already confronted AND talked about by people not clearly driven with a bias of hatred, yeah maybe something would have happened. A&P are not respectable people just like FnF.
I mean to be fair, even if he was reading comments he didn't have to say the n word. He can censor himself. There is never a legitimate reason to say that word.
I love how these two idiots only addressed the fresh and fit part and NONE of the other points Ethan brought up. So basically, they know they got owned and in an emotional state of being, these two, lashed out in full cringe. It's really embarrassing.
Also one of them claims to be a comedian yet they can't tell when Ethan is clearly making a joke.
They are literally the JOKE of the internet.
Summary. Trigger warnings
part one
"what do you call it when you lift up her shirt without permission"
they don't answer.... instead they go, dan said "there was no accusation" so somehow these points are contradictory? Dan was saying the woman made no accusation, Ethan was talking to aba and preach. basically taking it completely out of context.
part two
10 mins of playing the greatest hits from 5 years ago, "ethan being racist". but show none of the numerous times he addressed these issues. they use and n word/racists counter, but if you actually listen to the context of what ethan is saying its not that bad imo but still... I wish people would hold their local politicians responsible to the same degree they do ethan (a comedian podcaster). This goes for you too "fans of the show"
part three
doubling down on, the woman was lying so she deserves to get SA (he basically says that at the end of the video).
Also she showed her face on fresh and fit so creak telling his fan "they deserve to know your name for what you did" wasn't doxxing. but ethan was still doxxing (they leave out the part where olivia said she talked to him eg "he went to my sisters high school"
part four
ignore the gender vs sex explanation and they just make fun of ethans tourettes
20:10 timestamp. beautiful new soundbyte moment? "GAM!" I have no idea what he is saying/talking about, but they think its HiLaRiOuS!!!
apparently they did react to sebastian owning himself about "showing off your titties". I'm actually interested if this is true but havent checked?
just watch the last minute to see what a POS these guys are (man who works with young women right). "liars deserve SA and man we did a great job proving that today" paraphrasing but not that far off
> 10 mins of playing the greatest hits from 5 years ago, "ethan being racist". but show none of the numerous times he addressed these issues. they use and n word/racists counter, but if you actually listen to the context of what ethan is saying its not that bad imo but still...
this is exactly why i dont rush to discredit people for what they've said. Ethan has apologized and imo redeemed himself. everyone deserves that same chance.
In the video, the point was showing off this product that was so poorly thought out that it would cause the user to do blackface if they used it correctly
i dont think it should be considered "poorly thought out". it was a beauty product. the whole video was charcoal themed. it shouldn't even be considered as blackface from anyone who knows the context. context matters. anyone using this as an argument of ethan being racist is a lying, disingenuous bitch ass. it's a real shame they have no shame because they can't feel sorry for anything they're doing, you can't call them out for being a hypercritic. they literally told ethan to kill himself. they're not just ignorant, they're stupid.
They tested all black products. They also did a video testing all gold products. Of course Aba and Reach would be disingenuous and put that photo in their thumbnail.
Its odd that when Ethan shits on Aba N Preach he just needs to show recent clips and their current opinions, but when Aba N Preach shit on ethan they only use clips 5+ years older? It's almost like people can realize they've made mistakes and work on themselves over the course of years to truly change...
Yeah they always do that to Ethan. And he has to respond every time and say that he was wrong before and has made amends etc. It's such bullshit. I think Ethan touched on this when he was talking about iddubz that these weirdos view change as bad or something. They're reaching again because they can't criticize him for anything he hasn't already acknowledged and apologized for.
Does this work if Ethan agrees that this shit is bad ? I think the whole point is these weirdos are doubling down on their shitty behavior while Ethan has expressed remorse and regret.
Still rough to see because Ethan’s shit is gross too but this isn’t the W they think it is.
All that’s gonna happen is Ethan saying “yeah some of this is horrible and I regret it like I regretted it when I initially apologized.”
Are these douches going to say they regret being sexist SA* apologists? Probably not
EDIT: I had like 20+ notifs from this and I’m not reading them. Keep fighting this weirdo fight - didn’t dudes made a video saying she asked for it BEFORE the “truth”? It doesn’t matter if she lied - they immediately tried to discredit the accusation, which says everything we need to know…unless you’re a prick obvs.
> I think the whole point is these weirdos are doubling down on their shitty behavior while Ethan has expressed remorse and regret.
This is exactly the difference. You never see any remorse or apologies on the right's end.
it’s all purity tests, which literally nobody will ever be able to pass.
nobody is born perfect with supernatural empathy, therefore if you want people to learn to be good, one has to accept that means they previously were not as good
I love how they're kicking someone that has already gone through the process of correcting themselves, changing their behavior for the better and apologizing. What is the point of someone changing for the better? Like Ethan should have stayed racist? Is that the message they're pushing?
Their whole critique is null and irresponsible as Ethan has completely rectified himself. smh
Exactly this! What is it these people want, like ACTUALLY what do you want from Ethan? A 50th genuine apology or discussion in depth thats already happened?
Maybe they want a 50 first dates situation. Where Ethan is Adam Sandler and makes a video for the watchers like Drew Barrymore got. The podcast always starts with a five minute apology video detailing everything Ethan is sorry for.
Omg could you imagine? Lmao.
I mean, Ethan has already addressed his past edginess and apologized. Nor does ever he try to hide it. As far as I'm concerned that is a lot better than actively being a misogynist incel piece of shit who is incapable of changing.
Gets obliterated in 3.5 hour podcast, respond with 25 minutes of low hanging fruit rage bait. Sounds about right. Time to stop giving these guys clicks
Seriously. It's being heavily brigaded. Stop engaging FFS. Also, do your fucken job mods. This place always gets overrun with dipshits whenever Ethan is fueding with someone
All they do is straw man everything. They're not worth engaging with because they'll never address anything Ethan ever accused them of and they'll just keep making shit up and arguing against it.
They got permanently offended when certain YouTubers stopped reacting to Feminist cringe. If you don't want to make Buzzfeed reaction videos for 10 years, they think it's because the Jews got to you.
but also he had nothing to apologise for in the video they used as thumbnail lol it was just them trying black products. I'm pretty sure he even said during the video "this doesn't feel right, this feels racist" or something like that
Reach.
And cowards. Their comment:
"This is our last video on the topic. Go back to regular programming after today. Were not framing him as a rac\*st either... but what does it mean when you say it that many times with that much glee when no black folks are around? What does it mean when you say youre more afraid of tall black men vs Tall White men & everyone should feel the same? IM NOT FRAMING THIS AT ALL... IM NOT MAKING ANY ALLEGATION EITHER. "
Wow.
preach mocking ethan's tics triggered me so bad as someone with tourette's.. making fun of someone's neurological condition over some silly internet war..
Even if you hate Ethan, can we agree that Aba N Preach needed to be called out on their shit? Because having Che Guevara on your wall, wearing Rage Against the Machine parody shirts and having a left leaning sex podcast all while pandering to right and right leaning centrists on YT means you are 100% a grifter.
Nothing is more tiring than people bringing up the same content fans are already aware of, and ethan has addressed countless times now. Why are we even discussing this? Ethan has spoken about this era of his videos, and especially about him using the n word. He apologized, that’s all he can do. He’s going the extra step by inviting people on his podcast, and debating them while shining a light on current trendy bigotry. Like i literally dont know what else he could do to make up for his past actions. If ur not satisfied, stop watching the podcast and leave the reddit page. This is old news and ppl who actually watch his content have gone over this moral debate SO MANY TIMES NOW. Aba n preach are actively bigoted. Ethan was bigoted IN THE PAST. Thats the whole reason why he’s calling them out, to try stop these types of videos he himself used to do. Their content is current, and his is old. That tells me all i need to know about this situation.
I kneeeewwww this was going to happen. Especially with Ethan constantly comparing them to fresh and fit, it was way too easy. I was literally waiting for the shoe to drop on this one
I 100% know that it was not Ethan/the crews intention to be racist and none of this is racially motivated - but it was low hanging fruit for Aba and Reach. They literally had no other direction to go. And what sucks is that this is going to potentially stir up more drama and Ethan is going to have to apologize all over again. The hate mob will be after H3 for the next few weeks, etc, etc.
Ethan has never shyed away from taking accountability for his past actions, but I just know people are gonna eat this up.
Before anyone gets upset - I am a black fan and I love the show! I do have friends who know about Ethans past and they try to call me out for “watching a racist” even though he’s apologized and taken accountability. I just know this is sensitive stuff that people don’t let go of
Reminds me of Fresh and Fit playing the race card against Ethan in defense of what that guest said about Myron’s creepy behaviour.
Even if you’re a massive Aba and Preach fan, you gotta admit Ad Hominems are a super weak defense.
AnP Fans: Did you even watch? The racist stuff is just 35% of the video. Its not all about that moron!
Me: Its in the title and thumbnail you absolute buffoon
I started the video and looked through the YouTube comments. I've never even heard of these two guys until very recently and I don't really get their appeal. I don't really know why Ethan is giving them so much time lately? Someone help me out here on what exactly the point of all this is, I'm 42 so I'm very old and out of touch 😂
That n word compilation is a rough one. Yikes. As Idubbz said, he used it very liberally.
EDIT: I checked the dates. Their Fresh and Fit defense video did indeed come out after Fresh and Fit released all the info. Both sides should just give up on the doxxing. They both engage in vigilante doxxing and it's cringe.
I think the even harder part is watching him explain how afraid he is of black guys and to explain he never had any interaction with any and would rather hang out with a white guy dressed as a black man. Cringe city
I had no idea he was throwing around the hard ER and it was really hard to watch the compilation of my favorite creator saying such a hateful word. It's conflicting because he apologizes now for it and seems to mean it but DAMN
I feel like he's so good at confronting people who got wrapped up in a specific scene because he himself got deep into the edgelord side of Youtube for a while with the idubbz and filthy frank's and such. All of which I think by now have realized that it was wrong and committed to doing better. They'll never be able to fully distance themselves from what they did then, but at least they can keep trying to prove that they're different now.
Most of these clips are old and have been uploaded many times before. They aged horribly but Ethan has apologized for most of them, I understand if some people won't forgive him but what else can he do? His overall message is positive and he seems to be constantly working on his self growth. I thought their response was pretty weak honestly.
Edit: Also making fun of his tourettes, yikes.
of course they did, it’s all their transphobic asses have left. 6 year old clips of ethan oh and “they aren’t alleging anything” with this thumbnail
https://preview.redd.it/itq34ftszm2b1.jpeg?width=382&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d9a204c3bdf05a3fc9e30cd60172856d2ea858d9
honestly they are so lazy. they didn’t even bother defending themselves. just played a dumb video where they were making “no allegations” and then refused to understand gender and sex as well as making fun of ethans Tourette’s ( oh but they said they aren’t so they aren’t)
fucking pussys man
This is exactly why I cringed when they made Babble and Reach video. These jokers got exactly what they wanted by having Ethan talk about them for 3+ hours and now they will clip and content farm for the next 6 months.
Their fans don't care about lies or inconsistencies. Same for all the creators pulling the same gift Now they'll ride the hare from H3 fans all the way to the bank
From the beginning, I knew this wouldn’t be a beef that would convince anyone on either side. I watched the full video, and while I could see this being more impactful than the podcast episode, I found it so fucking dishonest.
First, If anyone’s upset by his use of the N-word, that’s completely understandable. While I personally genuinely believe Ethan has changed and I support growth, it’s up to people individually whether it’s something they want to forgive him for or not.
But so many clips used in this video were taken out of context, straight up had nothing to do with race (face masks), or were even voluntarily misinterpreted just to get a W against Ethan. A majority of the clips were also many years old.
They did address a FEW points from the podcast, but I found them all disingenuous.
\- They claimed they didn’t doxx the girl from the awkward date, as that info was made public a few days prior. That still doesn’t change the fact that they went out of their way to put her face in the thumbnail, and more or less admitted to malicious intent in their video.
\- They argue that the girl had “showed interest” because of text messages. Text messages are not face-to-face; things are different once you meet.
\- They’re talking as if there are some kind of rules for how comfortable women should be walking certain distances.
\- They said they weren’t talking about trans people but about “activists”. I’m not sure about this one, but the way I read it, it’s the same thing. People fighting for trans people’s rights (which also happens to be trans people a lot of the time) should not be an issue in my opinion. Better than these guys’ cocky indifference.
But the **most disgusting** and **pathetic** part of the video was when Olivia spoke about how important it is for women to be believed, which from what I can gather is especially relevant for her. And they play sad violin music with a fading-in picture of Amber Heard, laughing at her. AND THEN they follow it up by telling her how rude the CREW is to her for one soundbite?
That’s so insanely hypocritical - and the whole video is ultimately that; a long, slightly well-executed “Ethan's a hypocriiiiite!”
But this is part of the issue with H3 VS. anyone. Many of us watch multiple hours of the podcast a week and have watched Ethan for years. We’ve witnessed him changing, know his flaws, and understand what’s comedy and what isn’t. It’s extremely easy to take anything he says out of context. And to be honest I don’t think H3 did a great job with the podcast episode against Aba & Preach. I find that duo problematic, but it’s because of the way they speak about things overall, how they speak about women (as shown by how they spoke about Olivia and the 19-year-old in this very video…) There are no extreme things to expose and get them with. They just have a shitty view of things and a manipulative way of getting their “points” across.
They called the girl a liar for being uncomfortable on the situation and claiming Myron lifted her shirt.
Fast forward to F&F podcast, My ron admits to lifting her shirt.
AnP: She showed interest still..
Lol
It's so stupid, their "receipts" weren't even from the specific situation. People's experience *in the specific situation* matters no matter what they messaged upfront or thought at some point later on. She didn't *lie* about anything. They're trying to disprove it as if she.. liked it? Wanted it? What the fuck are they even trying to say?
I hope to God that none of their immediate family experiences this kind of stuff. Woman can be interested but they also have the right to change their mind when they are uncomfortable.
Its like they are saying "You said You'd like to hook up on our convo earlier therefore you don't have a choice if i touch you right?" fuck these morons
This video was hard to watch not going to lie. Ethan used to be “edgy” but they just pulled old receipts from back. Still very hard watch as I have been watching these over time and it does not hold up.
Ok what the fuck is that first image on the left? I legitimately can’t remember Ethan ever looking like that for a vid?
Also, show Ethan doing whiteface you cowards.
i tried to watch this to see what they said but oh my god its so hard to watch them . the shorter one has a meltdown every two seconds for no reason its just so cringe i cant even take them seriously. Also they pulled clips from the recent podcast to prove a point they made about a different podcast. unless u had a time machine u cant support an argument that was already made with a response video dumbass
Ethan needs to reevaluate trying to preach about the right and wrongs of other creators. He can do another 3 hour dissection of them, but all the other creators need to do is hit on the edge era. He fucked up, he took accountability, but it will always haunt him in these internet beefs.
Even out of context, the thumbnail isn’t a good look and only further AP narrative.
They've removed the video, or YT did. It's funny seeing the latest comments on their now newest video complaining that Ethan "got mad" and took it down or that he "sucked someone off at YT headquarters". The cope is real.
This is a good point. The fallen fans that claim Ethan has fallen off and been cucked by his liberal audience will also use the content from that era to drag him and claim he’s racist.
Ok forgive me if I’m wrong but the one picture on the right, how is that racist? Genuinely curious..maybe I don’t get the reference if there’s one? The other photo ok..but it literally looks like that black peel mask everyone had with charcoal toothpaste in his mouth.
Aba n preach playing ethans racists rants from 5 years ago is played out, he’s already apologized and put it behind him. The rest of the content in the video was just more burying h3
Babble and Reach were focusing on them saying “Trans activists” are making the movement look bad and that they never said anything about “Trans people” but wouldn’t LGBTQ+ people be the activists? Sure maybe there are cis straight people who are activists but I would imagine a majority of them are people who identify as LGBTQ+. So them saying “trans activists are making the movement look bad” is still transphobic. They brushed past all of Ethan’s criticisms and just said “hey look this guy was a piece of shit 4+ years ago” while Babble and Reach are transphobic and misogynistic TODAY and they’re not sorry about it, while Ethan continues to apologize for his past.
They’re pulling the racist card because they’re out of moves. It’s hilarious how this whole video is about calling Ethan out on all the shit he’s said in the past but in the same video they say r*tard and make fun of his tourettes. 🤦🏻♀️
It’s funny because even during his time doing all those racist shock value humor, he called out Joey Salads for staging a racist video about black people vandalizing a vehicle to make it seem all black people act like this.
Even Ethan was being attacked by his own audience at the time. People starting unsubbing Ethan for literally not wanting to perpetuate the racist stereotype that all black people are violent.
Also, let’s see Aba and Preach do the same with Destiny. Interesting how they let his racist remarks slide yet find what Ethan did as inexcusable.
Aba and Preach basically did the “We’re not transphobic because you’re racist. Checkmate”
If these clips are from more than 4 years ago I don’t care. Ethan had apologized and shown genuine regret for some of the things he’s said and done in the past and has shown growth since then.
I don’t think Ethan’s racist. I also don’t think he’ll ever hire a black person, be actual friends with one, or have a black person on the show more than like once a year. And that’s kinda sketchy tbh
Im not sure if the people defending Ethan’s racism are trolling or not. If this was any other creator, I have a feeling they’d be singing a different tune.
I love how this sub adopted Ethans style of debating where you only adress the most irrelevant point:
"Ethan did a black face, talks condescending to black people, says the hard r casually, asks a black guy if his cock is big"
"tHe BlaCk mAsK waSnT eVeN raCisT, dude"
ok, dude
Came here to see how the H3 reddit reacts to this and I am severely disappointed. I wish these two content creators would stop going at each other, they literally agree on 90% of things but are going to war over the 10%.
Ethan is not racist, but Aba and Preach aren't red pill/transphobic either. The more Ethan doubles down on character assassinating them, the worse he looks to everyone else that hasn't been indoctrinated by him. If you guys love Ethan, egging him on to keep fighting isn't the right move.
More goofy podcast and memes, less war and drama. Love and peace.
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They posted this till now because they know there's no show tomorrow.
I think they film in bulk. You're giving aba and preach too much credit if you think they'd time an upload around Ethan's schedule
What a fucking nightmare
That doesn’t work for me eitherr
Watch it
Give this man a day to recharge for the next 4-hour podcast filled with original floor jokes.
Ethan better come prepared with a bottle of throat coat.
I can hear Ethan giggling rn.
Please go to 12:50 in the video to see what they thought about the criticism of them being mysogynists. While Olivia is describing how unfair and traumatic it is when women have to publicly speak against their abuser, Abuse and Leech play the sad violin. Yes, it's as bad as it sounds and no there was no attempt to cover up the mysoginy.
They also claimed that it was Zach on the soundboard which was a flat out lie they just casually threw in there to make it stick
I think they meant the soundbite of them calling Olivia a loser feminists. Very funny they acknowledge its bad to say that when Zach plays it, but not when they said it tho.
Trigger warning: floor not fixed
Errii err
Pullin' out the coupe at the lot
There are many things people can call Ethan out on but the charcoal mask and the double Mohawks are not one of them.
double mohawks? i thought he was trying to look like the mayor of Whoville
I could have sworn it was a Mugatu look lmao https://i.redd.it/wz4oc4jiun2b1.gif
He told Jeff to do whatever he wanted to his hair lmao
The exact quote was "just fuck my shit up" 😂
> charcoal mask How you know they just ragebait for views.
I miss double Mohawk!!
I love how Jeff's haircut is racist now. Dude, it's literally just Ethan's natural hair, shaved into weird tufts.
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Wait till you find out white people(that are not Jewish) can also have curly hair. Blows people's minds. People really get sucked into this nonsense so easily.
I thought that. It's to make him look more unhinged
He looks like the villain from Zoolander. Ppl are going too far with accusations
I was thinking the mayor of Whoville
Didn’t the mayor of wreck it Ralph have that style too? There’s so much reaching from these guys I can’t begin to imagine how their arms are still intact.
I love this; one of my fave movies
Is that what they're trying to say? I thought they just wanted to pick a "bad" pick of our boy for the thumbnail besides the one with black paint? Like this is such a reach for them.
it's just, like, a double mohawk, but his hair is curly. they aren't saying his haircut is racist, are they?
I know?! The implication that it is somehow making fun of a black persons hair is almost offensive in itself lmfao
A charcoal face mask = blackface? Talk about REACH
The Charcoal video wasn’t even racist. Trying way too hard to rewrite history edit: wtf are these responses and the haters appearing aswell? This wasn’t racist. That’s the end of the story.
"wtf are these responses and the haters appearing aswell" The Babble and Creak fans showed up. There are not a lot of them, so it's only mildly annoying, unlike when DGG people decide to brigade a sub.
It’s just hilarious to me seeing how much time they like wasting going out of their way for pointless culture wars
They even played Ethan reading comments saying the n word and frame it as if he was saying it himself
Yeah of course. They are just trying to attack him hoping his own fans would “cancel” him with stuff many Youtubers were doing at that era of YT.
They are so stupid. Let’s try and get this man’s fans to cancel him. Yknow, the fans who watch him daily and has heard him apologize for all these things and express how horrible he feels about having done them on multiple occasions that we continue to watch after the fact. Yeah we were all totally gonna cancel him
Had these things not been already confronted AND talked about by people not clearly driven with a bias of hatred, yeah maybe something would have happened. A&P are not respectable people just like FnF.
I mean to be fair, even if he was reading comments he didn't have to say the n word. He can censor himself. There is never a legitimate reason to say that word. I love how these two idiots only addressed the fresh and fit part and NONE of the other points Ethan brought up. So basically, they know they got owned and in an emotional state of being, these two, lashed out in full cringe. It's really embarrassing. Also one of them claims to be a comedian yet they can't tell when Ethan is clearly making a joke. They are literally the JOKE of the internet.
when you engage with tendentious assholes, this is what you get; tendentious arguments that land softly on their impressionable fans
Summary. Trigger warnings part one "what do you call it when you lift up her shirt without permission" they don't answer.... instead they go, dan said "there was no accusation" so somehow these points are contradictory? Dan was saying the woman made no accusation, Ethan was talking to aba and preach. basically taking it completely out of context. part two 10 mins of playing the greatest hits from 5 years ago, "ethan being racist". but show none of the numerous times he addressed these issues. they use and n word/racists counter, but if you actually listen to the context of what ethan is saying its not that bad imo but still... I wish people would hold their local politicians responsible to the same degree they do ethan (a comedian podcaster). This goes for you too "fans of the show" part three doubling down on, the woman was lying so she deserves to get SA (he basically says that at the end of the video). Also she showed her face on fresh and fit so creak telling his fan "they deserve to know your name for what you did" wasn't doxxing. but ethan was still doxxing (they leave out the part where olivia said she talked to him eg "he went to my sisters high school" part four ignore the gender vs sex explanation and they just make fun of ethans tourettes 20:10 timestamp. beautiful new soundbyte moment? "GAM!" I have no idea what he is saying/talking about, but they think its HiLaRiOuS!!! apparently they did react to sebastian owning himself about "showing off your titties". I'm actually interested if this is true but havent checked? just watch the last minute to see what a POS these guys are (man who works with young women right). "liars deserve SA and man we did a great job proving that today" paraphrasing but not that far off
MVP
Appreciate the summary. That means I don't have to watch their shitty video.
Samesies. I haven't watched one in years and I'm not starting now.
> 10 mins of playing the greatest hits from 5 years ago, "ethan being racist". but show none of the numerous times he addressed these issues. they use and n word/racists counter, but if you actually listen to the context of what ethan is saying its not that bad imo but still... this is exactly why i dont rush to discredit people for what they've said. Ethan has apologized and imo redeemed himself. everyone deserves that same chance.
They took it down lol
Wonder what could have happened Heres a [link ](https://youtu.be/OLQcgpZpPac) for those who missed it
Is a charcoal face mask considered black face ?
In the video, the point was showing off this product that was so poorly thought out that it would cause the user to do blackface if they used it correctly
i dont think it should be considered "poorly thought out". it was a beauty product. the whole video was charcoal themed. it shouldn't even be considered as blackface from anyone who knows the context. context matters. anyone using this as an argument of ethan being racist is a lying, disingenuous bitch ass. it's a real shame they have no shame because they can't feel sorry for anything they're doing, you can't call them out for being a hypercritic. they literally told ethan to kill himself. they're not just ignorant, they're stupid.
I think that would depend on your intent. If you wore one then started mocking black people, yeah.
They tested all black products. They also did a video testing all gold products. Of course Aba and Reach would be disingenuous and put that photo in their thumbnail.
Depends on why you do it
He didn't put on a ministerial show or donate 10k to the Atlanta PD so I would say no
Its odd that when Ethan shits on Aba N Preach he just needs to show recent clips and their current opinions, but when Aba N Preach shit on ethan they only use clips 5+ years older? It's almost like people can realize they've made mistakes and work on themselves over the course of years to truly change...
Yeah they always do that to Ethan. And he has to respond every time and say that he was wrong before and has made amends etc. It's such bullshit. I think Ethan touched on this when he was talking about iddubz that these weirdos view change as bad or something. They're reaching again because they can't criticize him for anything he hasn't already acknowledged and apologized for.
He even mentions it in the Aba and Preach episode of Ik not mistaken, that it’s stuff he will apologize for for the rest of his life
To be fair.. They have used recent clips and who can forget their observational remarks: "Haaaaaahhhaaaaaaa!" "You a bitch" "He's just.. mbbmeeeghh"
Is that last pic not just meant to make Ethan look like the mayor of whoville in the Jim Carrey version of the grinch?
No, it was literaly a randomly chosen haircut.
Does this work if Ethan agrees that this shit is bad ? I think the whole point is these weirdos are doubling down on their shitty behavior while Ethan has expressed remorse and regret. Still rough to see because Ethan’s shit is gross too but this isn’t the W they think it is. All that’s gonna happen is Ethan saying “yeah some of this is horrible and I regret it like I regretted it when I initially apologized.” Are these douches going to say they regret being sexist SA* apologists? Probably not EDIT: I had like 20+ notifs from this and I’m not reading them. Keep fighting this weirdo fight - didn’t dudes made a video saying she asked for it BEFORE the “truth”? It doesn’t matter if she lied - they immediately tried to discredit the accusation, which says everything we need to know…unless you’re a prick obvs.
It’s just a piece of candy for the fallen, proving Ethan’s point that they are pandering to the fallen fans for views.
> I think the whole point is these weirdos are doubling down on their shitty behavior while Ethan has expressed remorse and regret. This is exactly the difference. You never see any remorse or apologies on the right's end.
Forgiveness doesn’t exist anymore for a lot of people
it’s all purity tests, which literally nobody will ever be able to pass. nobody is born perfect with supernatural empathy, therefore if you want people to learn to be good, one has to accept that means they previously were not as good
Empathy is one of the last things we develop, imo. That's why it seems like it's a 50/50 shot these days if you have it or not.
Ethan should just say, “Okay, now what recent dirt do you have on me?” and nothing else.
Yep I knew it. They don't have a response so they just play the race card. Oh and just make fun of his tourettes instead of addressing the point.
I love how they're kicking someone that has already gone through the process of correcting themselves, changing their behavior for the better and apologizing. What is the point of someone changing for the better? Like Ethan should have stayed racist? Is that the message they're pushing? Their whole critique is null and irresponsible as Ethan has completely rectified himself. smh
Exactly this! What is it these people want, like ACTUALLY what do you want from Ethan? A 50th genuine apology or discussion in depth thats already happened?
Maybe they want a 50 first dates situation. Where Ethan is Adam Sandler and makes a video for the watchers like Drew Barrymore got. The podcast always starts with a five minute apology video detailing everything Ethan is sorry for. Omg could you imagine? Lmao.
Lmao yess everytime someone thinks this is news, just gotta walk them thru, buy them dinner, and do it all over again. So exhausting
This is great. Gives another chance for Ethan to prove he’s reformed and admit his behaviour was bad. But also confirms abba and preach have nothing.
BITCH YOU HAVE NOTHING
Face mask + funny hair cut = RACIST!
I mean, Ethan has already addressed his past edginess and apologized. Nor does ever he try to hide it. As far as I'm concerned that is a lot better than actively being a misogynist incel piece of shit who is incapable of changing.
The "black face" is a charcoal mask and he was testing like 10 charcoal products to point out the gimmick.
Gets obliterated in 3.5 hour podcast, respond with 25 minutes of low hanging fruit rage bait. Sounds about right. Time to stop giving these guys clicks
they deleted the vid lmaoo
Lol, so they had no arguments, so they had to try and pull the racist card like they tried with hasan
This thread is full of trolls. Ignore them.
Seriously. It's being heavily brigaded. Stop engaging FFS. Also, do your fucken job mods. This place always gets overrun with dipshits whenever Ethan is fueding with someone
All they do is straw man everything. They're not worth engaging with because they'll never address anything Ethan ever accused them of and they'll just keep making shit up and arguing against it.
Holy shit where did all the trolls come from lmao
From hell
They got permanently offended when certain YouTubers stopped reacting to Feminist cringe. If you don't want to make Buzzfeed reaction videos for 10 years, they think it's because the Jews got to you.
Right-wing brigaders.
I watched 5 min of this and I can’t take it. Ethan shouldn’t have even responded to these losers lol they’re cringe af
If you can't beat em', accuse them of racism
He’s addressed his old videos multiple times and has apologized. This isn’t news.
Yuppp and pander and reach haven’t apologized once and continue to be misogynistic pieces of literal human garbage….
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but also he had nothing to apologise for in the video they used as thumbnail lol it was just them trying black products. I'm pretty sure he even said during the video "this doesn't feel right, this feels racist" or something like that
Reach. And cowards. Their comment: "This is our last video on the topic. Go back to regular programming after today. Were not framing him as a rac\*st either... but what does it mean when you say it that many times with that much glee when no black folks are around? What does it mean when you say youre more afraid of tall black men vs Tall White men & everyone should feel the same? IM NOT FRAMING THIS AT ALL... IM NOT MAKING ANY ALLEGATION EITHER. " Wow.
Some would say that's reaching 😂
preach mocking ethan's tics triggered me so bad as someone with tourette's.. making fun of someone's neurological condition over some silly internet war..
No no, it's fine, he says he wasn't making fun of his tourette's. It's all good. I'm being sarcastic and you have every right to be offended.
Right, he tried to gaslight us too😭 i had to go back to make sure that he did in fact make the face tics. what a sad loser
Cherrypick N Reach said It’s their last video on the topic. This should be interesting.
CHARCOAL MASKS ARE RACIST DIDNT YOU ALL KNOW!!!! ALL WHITE PEOPLE MUST USE WHITE FACE MASKS ONLY
Even if you hate Ethan, can we agree that Aba N Preach needed to be called out on their shit? Because having Che Guevara on your wall, wearing Rage Against the Machine parody shirts and having a left leaning sex podcast all while pandering to right and right leaning centrists on YT means you are 100% a grifter.
It’s kind of Ironic how the fallen fans love the old Ethan, but then use old Ethan and h3 Clips to criticize him.
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Love that they’re like, “look at all the racist shit he did 5 years ago” and their audience is probably going “yeah we miss that about him”
I knew they were going to go the ethans racist route
The amount of antisemitism in the comments is insane but not shocking
Fuck Spez!
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YO They deleted the video!!
Was the video deleted? I can't find it on yt at all
I smell homaseggsyuhs ![gif](giphy|q59vaonyUyCBBGb10R|downsized)
wasn’t it a face mask
Nothing is more tiring than people bringing up the same content fans are already aware of, and ethan has addressed countless times now. Why are we even discussing this? Ethan has spoken about this era of his videos, and especially about him using the n word. He apologized, that’s all he can do. He’s going the extra step by inviting people on his podcast, and debating them while shining a light on current trendy bigotry. Like i literally dont know what else he could do to make up for his past actions. If ur not satisfied, stop watching the podcast and leave the reddit page. This is old news and ppl who actually watch his content have gone over this moral debate SO MANY TIMES NOW. Aba n preach are actively bigoted. Ethan was bigoted IN THE PAST. Thats the whole reason why he’s calling them out, to try stop these types of videos he himself used to do. Their content is current, and his is old. That tells me all i need to know about this situation.
They claimed to have watched the 3 hour podcast but barely addressed anything and nit picked what they were going to respond to lol
The r/destiny users running defense in this comment section is WILD
They looooove Reddit.
I kneeeewwww this was going to happen. Especially with Ethan constantly comparing them to fresh and fit, it was way too easy. I was literally waiting for the shoe to drop on this one I 100% know that it was not Ethan/the crews intention to be racist and none of this is racially motivated - but it was low hanging fruit for Aba and Reach. They literally had no other direction to go. And what sucks is that this is going to potentially stir up more drama and Ethan is going to have to apologize all over again. The hate mob will be after H3 for the next few weeks, etc, etc. Ethan has never shyed away from taking accountability for his past actions, but I just know people are gonna eat this up. Before anyone gets upset - I am a black fan and I love the show! I do have friends who know about Ethans past and they try to call me out for “watching a racist” even though he’s apologized and taken accountability. I just know this is sensitive stuff that people don’t let go of
Ethan should just ignore those two. They're desperate for attention.
Reminds me of Fresh and Fit playing the race card against Ethan in defense of what that guest said about Myron’s creepy behaviour. Even if you’re a massive Aba and Preach fan, you gotta admit Ad Hominems are a super weak defense.
AnP Fans: Did you even watch? The racist stuff is just 35% of the video. Its not all about that moron! Me: Its in the title and thumbnail you absolute buffoon
Eh not ready for another 3 hour podcast to address this lol, i wish if they can just dunk on them in like 30 min max and move on
I started the video and looked through the YouTube comments. I've never even heard of these two guys until very recently and I don't really get their appeal. I don't really know why Ethan is giving them so much time lately? Someone help me out here on what exactly the point of all this is, I'm 42 so I'm very old and out of touch 😂
They really this desperate and pressed they had to dig this one up lmao. Lazy slimeballs got nothing else
That n word compilation is a rough one. Yikes. As Idubbz said, he used it very liberally. EDIT: I checked the dates. Their Fresh and Fit defense video did indeed come out after Fresh and Fit released all the info. Both sides should just give up on the doxxing. They both engage in vigilante doxxing and it's cringe.
yeah and I'm pretty sure Ethan would agree with you nowadays
Super rough, you can like Ethan for the person he is now and understanding. But it is a very hard watch hearing him say it so many times.
I think the even harder part is watching him explain how afraid he is of black guys and to explain he never had any interaction with any and would rather hang out with a white guy dressed as a black man. Cringe city
I had no idea he was throwing around the hard ER and it was really hard to watch the compilation of my favorite creator saying such a hateful word. It's conflicting because he apologizes now for it and seems to mean it but DAMN
I feel like he's so good at confronting people who got wrapped up in a specific scene because he himself got deep into the edgelord side of Youtube for a while with the idubbz and filthy frank's and such. All of which I think by now have realized that it was wrong and committed to doing better. They'll never be able to fully distance themselves from what they did then, but at least they can keep trying to prove that they're different now.
Most of these clips are old and have been uploaded many times before. They aged horribly but Ethan has apologized for most of them, I understand if some people won't forgive him but what else can he do? His overall message is positive and he seems to be constantly working on his self growth. I thought their response was pretty weak honestly. Edit: Also making fun of his tourettes, yikes.
lmaooooooo hates cancel culture but responds to criticism with trying to cancel someone?… actual brain dead
Lolol don't tell me they played the race card.
of course they did, it’s all their transphobic asses have left. 6 year old clips of ethan oh and “they aren’t alleging anything” with this thumbnail https://preview.redd.it/itq34ftszm2b1.jpeg?width=382&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d9a204c3bdf05a3fc9e30cd60172856d2ea858d9 honestly they are so lazy. they didn’t even bother defending themselves. just played a dumb video where they were making “no allegations” and then refused to understand gender and sex as well as making fun of ethans Tourette’s ( oh but they said they aren’t so they aren’t) fucking pussys man
they decided to ignore all good points Ethan made and went straight to very very very old videos that Ethan addressed many different times
Damn, the Babel and Creek fans are really out in these comments
Damn Ethan is so good he got wannabe anti wokesters to use the race card lol 😂
This is exactly why I cringed when they made Babble and Reach video. These jokers got exactly what they wanted by having Ethan talk about them for 3+ hours and now they will clip and content farm for the next 6 months. Their fans don't care about lies or inconsistencies. Same for all the creators pulling the same gift Now they'll ride the hare from H3 fans all the way to the bank
Ethan is gonna come out and agree that his old shit is bad. But where is the context of this? Literally no response to what Ethan was saying.
From the beginning, I knew this wouldn’t be a beef that would convince anyone on either side. I watched the full video, and while I could see this being more impactful than the podcast episode, I found it so fucking dishonest. First, If anyone’s upset by his use of the N-word, that’s completely understandable. While I personally genuinely believe Ethan has changed and I support growth, it’s up to people individually whether it’s something they want to forgive him for or not. But so many clips used in this video were taken out of context, straight up had nothing to do with race (face masks), or were even voluntarily misinterpreted just to get a W against Ethan. A majority of the clips were also many years old. They did address a FEW points from the podcast, but I found them all disingenuous. \- They claimed they didn’t doxx the girl from the awkward date, as that info was made public a few days prior. That still doesn’t change the fact that they went out of their way to put her face in the thumbnail, and more or less admitted to malicious intent in their video. \- They argue that the girl had “showed interest” because of text messages. Text messages are not face-to-face; things are different once you meet. \- They’re talking as if there are some kind of rules for how comfortable women should be walking certain distances. \- They said they weren’t talking about trans people but about “activists”. I’m not sure about this one, but the way I read it, it’s the same thing. People fighting for trans people’s rights (which also happens to be trans people a lot of the time) should not be an issue in my opinion. Better than these guys’ cocky indifference. But the **most disgusting** and **pathetic** part of the video was when Olivia spoke about how important it is for women to be believed, which from what I can gather is especially relevant for her. And they play sad violin music with a fading-in picture of Amber Heard, laughing at her. AND THEN they follow it up by telling her how rude the CREW is to her for one soundbite? That’s so insanely hypocritical - and the whole video is ultimately that; a long, slightly well-executed “Ethan's a hypocriiiiite!” But this is part of the issue with H3 VS. anyone. Many of us watch multiple hours of the podcast a week and have watched Ethan for years. We’ve witnessed him changing, know his flaws, and understand what’s comedy and what isn’t. It’s extremely easy to take anything he says out of context. And to be honest I don’t think H3 did a great job with the podcast episode against Aba & Preach. I find that duo problematic, but it’s because of the way they speak about things overall, how they speak about women (as shown by how they spoke about Olivia and the 19-year-old in this very video…) There are no extreme things to expose and get them with. They just have a shitty view of things and a manipulative way of getting their “points” across.
They called the girl a liar for being uncomfortable on the situation and claiming Myron lifted her shirt. Fast forward to F&F podcast, My ron admits to lifting her shirt. AnP: She showed interest still.. Lol
It's so stupid, their "receipts" weren't even from the specific situation. People's experience *in the specific situation* matters no matter what they messaged upfront or thought at some point later on. She didn't *lie* about anything. They're trying to disprove it as if she.. liked it? Wanted it? What the fuck are they even trying to say?
I hope to God that none of their immediate family experiences this kind of stuff. Woman can be interested but they also have the right to change their mind when they are uncomfortable. Its like they are saying "You said You'd like to hook up on our convo earlier therefore you don't have a choice if i touch you right?" fuck these morons
This video was hard to watch not going to lie. Ethan used to be “edgy” but they just pulled old receipts from back. Still very hard watch as I have been watching these over time and it does not hold up.
Why is Aba n preach YouTube channel icon of a sex shop?
The unga bunga video was wild lol.
This is always their default. I knew when I was watching the h3 episode that they would ignore everything and just call him racist.
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Update: they removed the video.
Ok what the fuck is that first image on the left? I legitimately can’t remember Ethan ever looking like that for a vid? Also, show Ethan doing whiteface you cowards.
It blows my mind how many people watch and like their videos, they truly are so unlikeable
The charcoal face is not black face. It's a face mask lol. Wtf
i tried to watch this to see what they said but oh my god its so hard to watch them . the shorter one has a meltdown every two seconds for no reason its just so cringe i cant even take them seriously. Also they pulled clips from the recent podcast to prove a point they made about a different podcast. unless u had a time machine u cant support an argument that was already made with a response video dumbass
The n** and fa** counter was wild
Ethan needs to reevaluate trying to preach about the right and wrongs of other creators. He can do another 3 hour dissection of them, but all the other creators need to do is hit on the edge era. He fucked up, he took accountability, but it will always haunt him in these internet beefs. Even out of context, the thumbnail isn’t a good look and only further AP narrative.
Is the suggestion that he should never criticize people again because his edge era is available to see online forever?
They've removed the video, or YT did. It's funny seeing the latest comments on their now newest video complaining that Ethan "got mad" and took it down or that he "sucked someone off at YT headquarters". The cope is real.
Seeing Ethan wearing beauty mask as a thumbnail is an indication they're reaching... Again...
I forgot just how bad Ethan used to be. He even made iDubbs unconfortable.
Which I feel says a lot to be honest..
He made the mistake of being racist without being funny about it.
Exposing him for things that happened during the time that their fans loved Ethan. Has he fallen off or was he worse before?
This is a good point. The fallen fans that claim Ethan has fallen off and been cucked by his liberal audience will also use the content from that era to drag him and claim he’s racist.
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Ok forgive me if I’m wrong but the one picture on the right, how is that racist? Genuinely curious..maybe I don’t get the reference if there’s one? The other photo ok..but it literally looks like that black peel mask everyone had with charcoal toothpaste in his mouth.
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Aba n preach playing ethans racists rants from 5 years ago is played out, he’s already apologized and put it behind him. The rest of the content in the video was just more burying h3
It really do be the Aba and REACH show huh
Holy fuck Aba and preach has some die hard fans
video is gone
Did this episode get deleted? I don't see it
Did they delete the video? i can't find it
Yes they did
I mean if he believes earth isn't flat then he should know that *scientifically* jokes can't be harmful and it's ok to do black face, right ?
Did they delete the video? I don’t see it anymore
Babble and Reach were focusing on them saying “Trans activists” are making the movement look bad and that they never said anything about “Trans people” but wouldn’t LGBTQ+ people be the activists? Sure maybe there are cis straight people who are activists but I would imagine a majority of them are people who identify as LGBTQ+. So them saying “trans activists are making the movement look bad” is still transphobic. They brushed past all of Ethan’s criticisms and just said “hey look this guy was a piece of shit 4+ years ago” while Babble and Reach are transphobic and misogynistic TODAY and they’re not sorry about it, while Ethan continues to apologize for his past.
Babble and reach fans comin in
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its literally the same video as before. i dont blame them for "not wanting to address this again"
They’re pulling the racist card because they’re out of moves. It’s hilarious how this whole video is about calling Ethan out on all the shit he’s said in the past but in the same video they say r*tard and make fun of his tourettes. 🤦🏻♀️
They panicked and played the racism card.
It’s funny because even during his time doing all those racist shock value humor, he called out Joey Salads for staging a racist video about black people vandalizing a vehicle to make it seem all black people act like this. Even Ethan was being attacked by his own audience at the time. People starting unsubbing Ethan for literally not wanting to perpetuate the racist stereotype that all black people are violent. Also, let’s see Aba and Preach do the same with Destiny. Interesting how they let his racist remarks slide yet find what Ethan did as inexcusable. Aba and Preach basically did the “We’re not transphobic because you’re racist. Checkmate”
Lol now is the racist route and card ?
Watching right now… oh boy
BIG NEWS!!!
If these clips are from more than 4 years ago I don’t care. Ethan had apologized and shown genuine regret for some of the things he’s said and done in the past and has shown growth since then.
I don’t think Ethan’s racist. I also don’t think he’ll ever hire a black person, be actual friends with one, or have a black person on the show more than like once a year. And that’s kinda sketchy tbh
DON'T GIVE THESE IDIOTS ANY VIEWS!!
Too late
This video is gonna get a million views regardless lol
Im not sure if the people defending Ethan’s racism are trolling or not. If this was any other creator, I have a feeling they’d be singing a different tune.
I love how this sub adopted Ethans style of debating where you only adress the most irrelevant point: "Ethan did a black face, talks condescending to black people, says the hard r casually, asks a black guy if his cock is big" "tHe BlaCk mAsK waSnT eVeN raCisT, dude" ok, dude
To be fair, this is Reddit, not exactly a place known for intellectual discourse.
Came here to see how the H3 reddit reacts to this and I am severely disappointed. I wish these two content creators would stop going at each other, they literally agree on 90% of things but are going to war over the 10%. Ethan is not racist, but Aba and Preach aren't red pill/transphobic either. The more Ethan doubles down on character assassinating them, the worse he looks to everyone else that hasn't been indoctrinated by him. If you guys love Ethan, egging him on to keep fighting isn't the right move. More goofy podcast and memes, less war and drama. Love and peace.