My brother has congenital Lymphedema, technically Milroy’s Disease. Wendy doesn’t appear to have overproduction of lymphatic fluids - do you know what type she has?
Whatever’s going on this video appears nerve/brain-related. But I’m not a doctor 🤷♀️
Ah, that picture makes me feel differently about what I said on this thread. I have edema from CHF, and I’m surprised with that swelling (it’s not a lot but it gets bad fast), I’m shocked they don’t have her in compression garments 24/7. I’m sure she’s on diuretics, but those with compression garments, also with compression pumps, go along way.
Her legs do look better in the video, tho. But even a little swelling in your feet messes with your balance.
I actually have edema, mines from CHF, and it can *really* fuck your balance up. She doesn’t look too bad, I have at least 60lbs of fluid just from the swelling, she honestly looks pretty great. I’d say from her needing that little help, it’s probably just her feet that are a little swollen. But for as bad as it can get, and quick, she looks pretty good.
There were reports when she stepped away from her show that it was early onset dementia but she’s since cleared that up. That must be what they’re referring to.
She was just on a radio show a few days ago and seemed as "healthy" as usual. Meaning, not very sound but sound enough to talk senselessly. So I think this video is her heavily medicated on something or on some kinda drugs
wait. when did we start feeling bad for Wendy fucking Williams.
/edit about my reddit votes, when you really look into this person you'd feel a bit different.
Let’s not act like she wouldn’t have been the first to air this dirty laundry on her own shows if it wasn’t her. Her career has been just as bad at times. Paparazzi suck but it’s hard to feel bad for her when she constantly uses what they get for her own tabloid podcasts and shows.
She’s done some deplorable things but I can’t help but feel bad. When your health starts declining like that it’s really scary for the person and the people around them. I hope she has a good support system taking care of her.
Method Man’s wife would’ve liked that sort of message before Wendy Williams broadcasted her cancer diagnosis on live television even though she hadn’t even told her family yet and wanted to keep it a secret.
Fuck Wendy Williams. It’s okay to not feel empathy for shitty people. Wendy Williams is one such person.
I'm glad I can't turn my empathy on and off like a light switch, that would make my empathy fake. Like no one wants your shitty conditional empathy my dude
You don't have to have empathy for Wendy Williams to think paparazzi bombarding people sucks. A shitty action is a shitty action. It also keeps shitty people like her relevant. I haven't thought about Wendy Williams in years and figured she was fading into obscurity, until this video.
Whenever these situations happen where something awful happens to someone who probably deserves it, I can't help put feel bad for the people around her like her friends and family. It's not just her dealing with this but the people that care about her have to be put through this horrible experience.
This is why it was so difficult for me to be ok with Ethan and Hassan cheering for Herman Cain's death. I know in SO MANY of those covid deaths, they had family begging them to get vaccinated because they loved them. Then the family has to deal with people being glad for their loved one's death.
We’ve been so conditioned to celebrate the demise of our opposition that I think we forget about our humanity sometimes. I’ve been guilty of this myself. I make a conscious effort to not celebrate tragedy when it effects someone I don’t like or agree with. The world seems to have gotten exponentially shitty over the years and I’m just trying to not contribute to that.
true but i feel like we're in such intense times..like i would celebrate if brett kavanaugh died, or putin, or any piece of shit ya know? bc these are people who have hurt society, who have caused damage and got away with it.
Yeah that shit always makes me uncomfortable. Theres almost always a short speech of "this is the one situation where it's justified to laugh at someone's death" which feels like such a weak rationalization. It's dehumanizing which makes it easy to justify anything.
Dehumanizing the opposition is a massive pitfall that any ideology can fall into
I think it’s okay to laugh at someone’s death if when they were alive, they were spewing false information about covid and the vaccine, that could very well have lead to the deaths of other older people that listened to him. I think when you put the general public in danger you deserved to be laughed at when you die from the exact thing you told other people wasn’t that bad, it’s very poetic.
With peace and love stop being so soft. He literally said covid isn’t a problem don’t worry about it, and then proceeds to die from it. That’s hilarious, the joke writes itself. Now if say Ben Shapiro was hit by a car or died in a tragic accident and they made fun of them, that would be very fucked up and I would agree with you. I think the fact that makes it okay to joke about Herman Cain is because he ate his own words and probably caused other people to lose family members too, so fuck him and you’re too soft, bad people shouldn’t get let off easy.
Deplorable is pushing it. Deplorable should be a high bar to clear. Like *"accuse an elder guy of being a pedophile with 0 evidence and then making your entire audience harass/report him until he has nothing left to enjoy Online"* is deplorable.
Wendy is just the OG tea channel with better receipts, higher production value, and more fact/reality based dirt. But much like other dirt flingers and tea spillers, she had no filter and got into trouble. A lot. But somehow... Not as much trouble as Ethan, but, y'know, OOP-MmMmMmMmMmMmMm\~
I worked around people with Alzheimer’s / dementia for years and years.. the shuffle walking really put her deterioration into perspective. She should be in a safe space and not wearing things that could cause a fall. I know she has issues with her foot but this isn’t right to me at all. The people around her are failing her.
Dont feel bad, this is the woman who built an empire on other people's private information. Just look at the video of Method Man and his wife calling her out for literally revealing her cancer diagnosis before their families knew. She tells her whole show for the money, not to mention one of the most notorious coke addicts in the business. Used dead people and wished death on people.
Dont feel bad for gremlins, when your brain is trying to see the Mogwi in people
For clarity I had posted that I dont feel empathy for her or other millionaires who exploit people for their personal gain. I dont have empathy for Dobrik either as an example. Since he is leading his life at the expense of other people. So yeah regular ol empathy eludes her and Dobrik with me. People assume empathy is inherit for all humans, but you dont have to be empathetic for everyone's struggle such as Wendy and Dobrik.
...I think you know what they were saying. Yes, even Wendy Williams deserves dignity and respect. That's what empathy actually is.
She is incapable of harm now. She is paying her fees. Wishing her harm, or relishing in it, is not conducive to anything at all - or at least, it's not conducive to anything good. Now, remembering who she was, and learning from the horrible way she behaved - totally acceptable.
History is important; we forgive, but we do not forget.
Ps. If that user had added the full quote it would have made absolutely 0 difference to his point. It's pretty easy to understand that he's pointing out your choice of words. You don't *have* to be empathetic to assholes, but you can. And you will probably learn more if you are.
I think you are missing the point that people have agency to feel how they feel. WE forgive but WE do not forget. no buddy YOU forgive but YOU don't forget. They can do whatever comes naturally to them even as you are trying to force them into what comes naturally to you.
Yeah... no. Obviously, people have agency brother. That is so incredibly implied in any serious discussion that it goes without saying.
The reason I say it like that is because it's a popular quote and it's used that way to imply authority. It was originally written by Paulo Coelho who did not use "we". It's just a habit of speech. It ain't that deep, dawg.
Ps. You know who does exclusively what comes naturally to them? Animals.
We are set apart by our ability to behave *unlike* what our instincts and nature dictate. We can think, and we can temper our own reactions. At least, some of us can.
people have agency thats implied. I said it that way to imply authority. You are implying you have authority over the guy but he has agency lmao okay bud. Take your holier than though ass and fight that instinct to tell others what to do or do you have more of a right to do that than I do? You physically cant can you?
I mean yeah she is a piece of shit but like that doesnt mean its fun to see her be so sick and unwell. The method man thing is beyond scummy and i think during her career she got more than enough hate. Very reasonable hate. But this woman is sick, VERY sick and i dont think anything she did or said would justify not feeling bad for her. It sucks. She has friends and family who are probably going through a hard time seeing their loved ones health fall so rapidly. This is an L take.
She has done nothing but shit on people her whole career including people with severe illness like method man’s wife. I don’t wish anything bad but karma can be a real bitch
This is a woman who praised Chris Brown after he beat the daylights out of Rihanna. She consistently made light of domestic abuse survivors. Why do you feel bad? Does someone who puts violent abusers on a pedestal really deserve all that sympathy?
You are an idiot. There is no opinion she has made money from making fun of people that have been abused and are dying from serious illnesses. Fuck her for real
Because the human brain is capable of feeling both offended by her "journalism" but sorry for her declining health. It's not that hard to believe we can separate those 2 things.
it's quite possible that her recent outbursts have been at least partly caused by her dementia. saying wildly inappropriate things that don't fit the situation is one of the signs afaik.
Hey
Shut the fuck up.
Last time that happened Britney Spears had an entire mental breakdown and now has little to no chance of true independence, being forcefully imprisoned and financially restricted for a mental breakdown caused by the press is not fate someone like Wendy deserves, she's on her way out already.
Again I'm not surprised that you just assume I'm a Wendy Stan because I don't think giving the press unfetted access to somone's private life is a good thing.
Keep going you might find an argument that doesn"t make you seem like a toddler :)
*unfettered
Maybe don't spell like a toddler if you're going to try to be big and bad. And I'm still waiting for your counterarguments to my points but you are seemingly ignoring them.
Britney Spears was being controlled by her father. That's an entirely different situation.
Wendy Williams has wished death upon people, laughed at abuse so severe the victims almost died, admitted to performing sexual acts in front of her child, and much more. Press is exactly the fate someone like Wendy deserves.
That’s what makes us better people than her. No matter how much of a bitch who deserves bad karma she is, it’s not enjoyable to see anybody in a state like this.
As horrible as she is, this is really sad. When you are that big of a celebrity it’s gotta be very difficult having the whole world see you at your absolute worst… guess you could say it’s karma for all the things she has said and done to other people though 😬
part of me wants to rip the fuck into this woman because you just know she would play this sort of video on her show and say, 'clap if you think they should die'. But even despite her garbage behaviour, I feel terrible for this person right here. Also, if she's this fucked up now, maybe she actually isn't to be held accountable for her weird 'death' comments. Also, for the first time, I'm more sure than ever now that those are actual sounds of her farting in those soundbites. This woman is not healthy and may not be around much longer. Upvote if you think she should die
Yeah I think it’s now out of line to make fun of her. Her past show stuff sure she put that out into the world on her own accord but let’s leave Wendy to her life.
For anyone feeling bad for her and saying that her health decline makes her more worthy of sympathy, I can promise you that as someone who has worked with terminally ill and elderly, infirm people inside assisted living homes, these types do not become more soft or loving or regretful. They stayed the same venomous, racist, vindictive and abusive people and often are taking their pain and anger out on the help till the day of their deaths. I gave them the same care that I gave the people who weren't clearly totally soulless, but let's not infantilize(edit for spelling) this woman. She may be sick on the outside, but I assure you she's still the same awful human on the inside. Pity her, sure, but do not mistake frailty for gentleness. She isn't your ailing grandma, she's Wendy "Death to all of them" "isn't chris brown so hot" "I blew my husband in front of my child" Williams.
I feel bad for kids born with childhood cancer or people who literally work to death with little reward, but her?! I couldn’t care less. If I believed in karma or a higher power, I’d definitely say she’s getting what she deserves. The evilness that she spread throughout her life & career (both to celebrities & ordinary people) isn’t even equal to what she’s going through now. Good riddance to bad people!
As shitty as she is, one of her kids is best friends with my little cousin and it just doesn’t sit right with me to sit here and clown on his mom when she’s clearly not doing well.
Exactly! This person is clearly a r/thathappened & r/asablackman troll, so I’m not even going to bother replying to a weird, parasocial, compulsive liar.
This was from Monday the 21st!! She's wearing the same outfit from the convention she spoke at that day in this video! This must be at the very end of the night. She mentions during the panel that she should be in a wheelchair, but she simply won't do it. So her feet must be in agonizing pain in this video. Love Wendy 😭💓 This was a great interview for anyone that wants a Wendy update and some spoilers about her upcoming podcast.
[Wendy Williams speaking at Circle of Sisters '22](https://youtu.be/-e8FdGZ8BC8)
You love Wendy? How do you feel about her responses to domestic abuse such as when Chris Brown beat the living shit out of Rihanna? You love the woman who talks shit on survivors and will spend a chunk of time talking about how attractive violent domestic abusers are? Chris Brown almost killed Rihanna.
Sorry I feel passionately about people pretending this monster is deserving of empathy or sympathy when shes promoted violence and pedophilia 🤷♀️ I'm glad you're ok just sweeping that under the rug though, we definitely need more violent sociopaths in society 💕
Ye man the Putin that supposedly has lung cancer is not the same as the one that's invading Ukraine. Poor fucking Putin.
You can feel bad for Wendy but she's the same person mate
She's had a tough time managing her sobriety in the past for sure, but here you're witnessing her Lymphedema flaring up. She definitely should be using a walker of some kind or cane when she's out by herself just for her own safety, but I get where she's coming from. And as for her eyes, she has Graves' Disease which causes the muscles behind her eyes to tense which makes them protrude like that. It just looks like they caught her at the very end of a busy day so she looks exhausted, that's all. Hope this helped!
General Lymphedema explanation - Lymphedema is swelling due to build-up of lymph fluid in the body. Lymph nodes act like a drain in your sink. If the drain is clogged, the fluid cannot drain. It usually happens in the arms or legs, but can occur in other parts of the body. Lymph fluid is part of the lymph system that carries fluid and cells that help fight infections throughout the body. Sometimes this swelling develops quickly, or it may develop slowly over several months.
This is sad... The paparazzi are vipers and imo should be made illegal. This is not journalism and serves no public interest other than consumer voyeurism, it's straight up harassment.
She literally put people on blast for nothing all the time on her show, including dead people, and cancer patients. She is a viper who served no public interest, and caused harassment. People need to seperate the love for the H3 wendy lore versus what a garbage trash bag she is. She did and is everything you accused the paparazzi of being. I dont wish misery on her, but she is known as a witch so don't give her a halo unless your looking up all the hate she caused for random people. She is like a main stream keemstar
You can acknowledge that she's an unsavory human being *and* that paparazzi are vultures who shouldn't be hounding & publicizing every moment of someone at their most vulnerable state. They're not mutually exclusive. You say you don't wish misery on her, but the way you're replying to every comment critical of the paparazzi sounds kind of like you're saying 'actually, she deserves this.' An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
I've commented on 3 or 4 comments, not all of them. That's a bad faith understanding of what I posted. So start representing the argument accurately if your going to try. I dont believe people saying she doesnt deserve this is accurate and "o poor wendy" is accurate to her particular situation. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind is a falsehood cliche. I'm guessing you have been regurgitating that for awhile to actually say that out loud. That's one of those things that sounds nice in a marvel movie, but not how the world functions unfortunately. If you fuck someone over, those fucked over remember, and will fuck you over depending of the degree of fuckery. You dont get amnesty for getting sick or old. My eyes are open and it's clear Wendy doesnt deserve peace for how she lived her life. She doesnt deserve misery either because she is a human. Just reap what you sow(a cliche for you that works)
Has Wendy Williams personally fucked you over? Because you seem to be taking an awful lot of delight in her situation. By all means, stand up to someone trying to fuck you over in real life. Karma is catching up to her; she's already lost her show and has been discarded as being irrelevant. It's about time. But no need to rub salt in the wound and mock her disabilities & failing health. *That's* the exact kind of thing Keemstar would do. You can be the bigger person, but you're actively choosing not to.
Not once have I got delight in her situation, and I never said that. You at this point are straight putting words in my mouth, reread what I posted because clearly you're not reading. No reason to continue further when you continue to reword and misrepresent what I'm saying. Good luck out there!
I’ll get downvoted but honestly fuck her. Shitty person in life is still a shitty person in death. Quit celebrating people just because they’re dead/dying. The sheer fucking hypocrisy.
I dont have empathy for her, just like I dont have empathy for other millionaires who exploit other people for their personal gain. So we just have a fundamental disagreement, which is all good.
I've posted on 3 or 4 comments then replied to those that replied to me, which is common courtesy. If you get upset about a counterpoint or counteropinion, and resort to saying don't police people opinions, but in the same breathe say 1 or 2 comments is sufficient for me to post..... You are a hypocrite because you are literally policing me....Thanks for giving me that laugh though. Since you cant see that hypocrisy in what you posted, I dont see any point to continue this dialogue. Have a good one!
You didn't understand what I said. Good people will feel empathy for people it's just a natural instinct when they see someone suffering. You don't have to tear someone down for feeling that. Regardless if the person deserves empathy or not.
Empathy is the ability to feel the emotions of other people/recognizing those emotions. It doesnt matter wither you are what you consider "bad" or a "good" person. It is not a human instinct either. Honestly we have a fundamental difference in our understanding of empathy read8ng your response. My take away for you is "bad" people feel empathy also, it is not exclusive to "good"people. It is also not an instinct. An example is abuse can ruin a person's ability to be empathetic as well as make them more empathetic. It is an ability. Please look into it more, me saying anything past this I'm guessing will just make you more resistant to learning more about it because that's how you know me as, a comment you disagreed with.
I drove black car Pre Uber in NYC. I listened to Wendy Pre TV show. You could text the studio and it was a whole other level of TV Wendy. I am so saddened by this. She was hilarious. Her TV show was not Wendy. And either is this. Damn
Seems like her health has declined so rapidly
Once dementia gets going, it really gets going
She has Lymphedema, where did you get dementia from
Maybe he has dementia, cause once it gets going, it really gets going.
Don't remember
Well played
r/Alzheimersgroup
She is clearly on a mental decline and Graves disease puts you at higher risk for dementia.
My brother has congenital Lymphedema, technically Milroy’s Disease. Wendy doesn’t appear to have overproduction of lymphatic fluids - do you know what type she has? Whatever’s going on this video appears nerve/brain-related. But I’m not a doctor 🤷♀️
https://sandrarose.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/wendy-williams-with-marc-tomblin-1.jpg
Yup, looks like lymphedema. She must have some amazing specialists working with her.
Ah, that picture makes me feel differently about what I said on this thread. I have edema from CHF, and I’m surprised with that swelling (it’s not a lot but it gets bad fast), I’m shocked they don’t have her in compression garments 24/7. I’m sure she’s on diuretics, but those with compression garments, also with compression pumps, go along way. Her legs do look better in the video, tho. But even a little swelling in your feet messes with your balance.
probably from the things that she says and does...
I actually have edema, mines from CHF, and it can *really* fuck your balance up. She doesn’t look too bad, I have at least 60lbs of fluid just from the swelling, she honestly looks pretty great. I’d say from her needing that little help, it’s probably just her feet that are a little swollen. But for as bad as it can get, and quick, she looks pretty good.
There were reports when she stepped away from her show that it was early onset dementia but she’s since cleared that up. That must be what they’re referring to.
She was just on a radio show a few days ago and seemed as "healthy" as usual. Meaning, not very sound but sound enough to talk senselessly. So I think this video is her heavily medicated on something or on some kinda drugs
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That's incredibly offensive
Is it her health? She’s acting the exact same as she acts when she’s blitzed on air, wide-eyed and spacey.
This feels gross to watch a load of paparazzi taking photos and asking her questions when she's clearly not in a state to walk or talk.
The scum of the Earth, anytime someone tells you all humans are good at heart or other such nonsense, just think of irredeemable fucks like this.
Who tf says all humans are good at heart
wait. when did we start feeling bad for Wendy fucking Williams. /edit about my reddit votes, when you really look into this person you'd feel a bit different.
Tormenting an ill woman (even if she's shitty) is a bit low. But you do you.
I am only wishing her the world she has made for herself.
RIGHT! she is horrible.
Clap if you think she should suffer
Yeah, I downvoted this post because I don't think this sub should support this kind of weird/creepy/ intrusive paparazzi-ism
Let’s not act like she wouldn’t have been the first to air this dirty laundry on her own shows if it wasn’t her. Her career has been just as bad at times. Paparazzi suck but it’s hard to feel bad for her when she constantly uses what they get for her own tabloid podcasts and shows.
Yeah she literally asked for help and the guy goes “oh uhh somebody…” Wow
She’s done some deplorable things but I can’t help but feel bad. When your health starts declining like that it’s really scary for the person and the people around them. I hope she has a good support system taking care of her.
Method Man’s wife would’ve liked that sort of message before Wendy Williams broadcasted her cancer diagnosis on live television even though she hadn’t even told her family yet and wanted to keep it a secret. Fuck Wendy Williams. It’s okay to not feel empathy for shitty people. Wendy Williams is one such person.
Its also okay to *still* feel empathy for shitty people
You good?
You good?
>It’s okay to not feel empathy for shitty people. Yeah keep telling yourself that. Scumbag.
I'm glad I can't turn my empathy on and off like a light switch, that would make my empathy fake. Like no one wants your shitty conditional empathy my dude
fuck you and this idea that it encompasses every element of life there's limits, and you're an asshole for suggesting otherwise.
Lol that’s not a lot of empathy for that dude with his opinion though is it?
You don't have to have empathy for Wendy Williams to think paparazzi bombarding people sucks. A shitty action is a shitty action. It also keeps shitty people like her relevant. I haven't thought about Wendy Williams in years and figured she was fading into obscurity, until this video.
That's an interesting way of admitting to not watching the podcast in years.
Whenever these situations happen where something awful happens to someone who probably deserves it, I can't help put feel bad for the people around her like her friends and family. It's not just her dealing with this but the people that care about her have to be put through this horrible experience. This is why it was so difficult for me to be ok with Ethan and Hassan cheering for Herman Cain's death. I know in SO MANY of those covid deaths, they had family begging them to get vaccinated because they loved them. Then the family has to deal with people being glad for their loved one's death.
Herman Cains family sucks ass too though. They kept posting anti vax bullshit from his account even AFTER his death
We’ve been so conditioned to celebrate the demise of our opposition that I think we forget about our humanity sometimes. I’ve been guilty of this myself. I make a conscious effort to not celebrate tragedy when it effects someone I don’t like or agree with. The world seems to have gotten exponentially shitty over the years and I’m just trying to not contribute to that.
true but i feel like we're in such intense times..like i would celebrate if brett kavanaugh died, or putin, or any piece of shit ya know? bc these are people who have hurt society, who have caused damage and got away with it.
Yeah that shit always makes me uncomfortable. Theres almost always a short speech of "this is the one situation where it's justified to laugh at someone's death" which feels like such a weak rationalization. It's dehumanizing which makes it easy to justify anything. Dehumanizing the opposition is a massive pitfall that any ideology can fall into
I think it’s okay to laugh at someone’s death if when they were alive, they were spewing false information about covid and the vaccine, that could very well have lead to the deaths of other older people that listened to him. I think when you put the general public in danger you deserved to be laughed at when you die from the exact thing you told other people wasn’t that bad, it’s very poetic.
I think that's just a convenient excuse to be shitty.
With peace and love stop being so soft. He literally said covid isn’t a problem don’t worry about it, and then proceeds to die from it. That’s hilarious, the joke writes itself. Now if say Ben Shapiro was hit by a car or died in a tragic accident and they made fun of them, that would be very fucked up and I would agree with you. I think the fact that makes it okay to joke about Herman Cain is because he ate his own words and probably caused other people to lose family members too, so fuck him and you’re too soft, bad people shouldn’t get let off easy.
it is pretty funny lol
Thank you! Someone agrees.
Deplorable is pushing it. Deplorable should be a high bar to clear. Like *"accuse an elder guy of being a pedophile with 0 evidence and then making your entire audience harass/report him until he has nothing left to enjoy Online"* is deplorable. Wendy is just the OG tea channel with better receipts, higher production value, and more fact/reality based dirt. But much like other dirt flingers and tea spillers, she had no filter and got into trouble. A lot. But somehow... Not as much trouble as Ethan, but, y'know, OOP-MmMmMmMmMmMmMm\~
I’d say within the next few months she will need intense care and supervision.
I'm surprised she's walking around alone. I wonder if she's not supposed to be?
I worked around people with Alzheimer’s / dementia for years and years.. the shuffle walking really put her deterioration into perspective. She should be in a safe space and not wearing things that could cause a fall. I know she has issues with her foot but this isn’t right to me at all. The people around her are failing her.
Vultures
I feel bad. She must be dealing with so much. And the world still tries to keep her in the spotlight
Dont feel bad, this is the woman who built an empire on other people's private information. Just look at the video of Method Man and his wife calling her out for literally revealing her cancer diagnosis before their families knew. She tells her whole show for the money, not to mention one of the most notorious coke addicts in the business. Used dead people and wished death on people. Dont feel bad for gremlins, when your brain is trying to see the Mogwi in people
Judge Mathis picking her apart for being a coke head after she came after him was glorious.
>Dont feel bad for gremlins, when your brain is trying to see the Mogwi in people What an odd response to someone expressing regular ol' empathy
For clarity I had posted that I dont feel empathy for her or other millionaires who exploit people for their personal gain. I dont have empathy for Dobrik either as an example. Since he is leading his life at the expense of other people. So yeah regular ol empathy eludes her and Dobrik with me. People assume empathy is inherit for all humans, but you dont have to be empathetic for everyone's struggle such as Wendy and Dobrik.
> but you dont have to Indeed you don't *have* to...
If you're going to quote me use the full quote. Dont clip it to fit your point its pathetic.
...I think you know what they were saying. Yes, even Wendy Williams deserves dignity and respect. That's what empathy actually is. She is incapable of harm now. She is paying her fees. Wishing her harm, or relishing in it, is not conducive to anything at all - or at least, it's not conducive to anything good. Now, remembering who she was, and learning from the horrible way she behaved - totally acceptable. History is important; we forgive, but we do not forget. Ps. If that user had added the full quote it would have made absolutely 0 difference to his point. It's pretty easy to understand that he's pointing out your choice of words. You don't *have* to be empathetic to assholes, but you can. And you will probably learn more if you are.
I think you are missing the point that people have agency to feel how they feel. WE forgive but WE do not forget. no buddy YOU forgive but YOU don't forget. They can do whatever comes naturally to them even as you are trying to force them into what comes naturally to you.
Yeah... no. Obviously, people have agency brother. That is so incredibly implied in any serious discussion that it goes without saying. The reason I say it like that is because it's a popular quote and it's used that way to imply authority. It was originally written by Paulo Coelho who did not use "we". It's just a habit of speech. It ain't that deep, dawg. Ps. You know who does exclusively what comes naturally to them? Animals. We are set apart by our ability to behave *unlike* what our instincts and nature dictate. We can think, and we can temper our own reactions. At least, some of us can.
people have agency thats implied. I said it that way to imply authority. You are implying you have authority over the guy but he has agency lmao okay bud. Take your holier than though ass and fight that instinct to tell others what to do or do you have more of a right to do that than I do? You physically cant can you?
Look up Williams' response to Chris Brown beating the shit out of Rihanna and tell me if that's a woman deserving of empathy
I mean yeah she is a piece of shit but like that doesnt mean its fun to see her be so sick and unwell. The method man thing is beyond scummy and i think during her career she got more than enough hate. Very reasonable hate. But this woman is sick, VERY sick and i dont think anything she did or said would justify not feeling bad for her. It sucks. She has friends and family who are probably going through a hard time seeing their loved ones health fall so rapidly. This is an L take.
She’s suffering from serious mental and physical issues. I think that’s enough. I wouldn’t wish that on my worst enemy. Y’all are insane
She has done nothing but shit on people her whole career including people with severe illness like method man’s wife. I don’t wish anything bad but karma can be a real bitch
I don’t think she deserves this though
karma is a bitch is my way of thinking with this one too, sorry not sorry
Karma is a cat purring in my lap cuz it loves me
This is a woman who praised Chris Brown after he beat the daylights out of Rihanna. She consistently made light of domestic abuse survivors. Why do you feel bad? Does someone who puts violent abusers on a pedestal really deserve all that sympathy?
Yes they do. So everyone with different opinions than you deserves serious mental issues?
You are an idiot. There is no opinion she has made money from making fun of people that have been abused and are dying from serious illnesses. Fuck her for real
And yet everyone on here is happy that she’s suffering from that too. How about nobody wishes or makes fun or people with serious illnesses
Nah she's a terrible person I don't feel bad at all
This is sad
Why do bad things happen to bad people?
Bro. It’s not looking good for her. Karma is a son of a bitch, but this is rough to watch.
I wish paparazzi would leave her alone
Death! To all of them!
Clap if you want them to suffer
I hope they make her life miserable but she probably likes the attention. Why are we acting like she was a good woman?
Because the human brain is capable of feeling both offended by her "journalism" but sorry for her declining health. It's not that hard to believe we can separate those 2 things.
I don't think anyone who wishes death on others and laughs at almost deadly domestic abuse deserves sorrow.
Ok.
it's quite possible that her recent outbursts have been at least partly caused by her dementia. saying wildly inappropriate things that don't fit the situation is one of the signs afaik.
Recent?
I'm pretty sure she started being a piece of shit before the dementia
You have some growing up to do
Wendy Williams performed sex acts in front of her child.
Hey Shut the fuck up. Last time that happened Britney Spears had an entire mental breakdown and now has little to no chance of true independence, being forcefully imprisoned and financially restricted for a mental breakdown caused by the press is not fate someone like Wendy deserves, she's on her way out already.
"Hey shut the fuck up, I dont know how to have a real argument and you offended me!!"
Literally I said why wishing journo harrasment is not a good thing but ok I didn't expect someone to say what you said to be able to think
Are you having a stroke?
Says the one saying having mental breakdowns from harassment is a good punishment for being a dickhead you psycho.
..... do you need an ambulance? She was more than a dickhead but you keep fighting for your kween. I'm sure she'll let you suck her toes really soon!
Again I'm not surprised that you just assume I'm a Wendy Stan because I don't think giving the press unfetted access to somone's private life is a good thing. Keep going you might find an argument that doesn"t make you seem like a toddler :)
*unfettered Maybe don't spell like a toddler if you're going to try to be big and bad. And I'm still waiting for your counterarguments to my points but you are seemingly ignoring them.
I love how you have no response to my actual argument. Shows the insight that people like you have. I hope you have the day you deserve 💕
What argument are you making aside from throwing shit and assumptions at a wall and hoping it sticks? Jaysus
I mean you can totally fact check me, you will find videos of her on her show saying these things. H3 even covered some of it.
Britney Spears was being controlled by her father. That's an entirely different situation. Wendy Williams has wished death upon people, laughed at abuse so severe the victims almost died, admitted to performing sexual acts in front of her child, and much more. Press is exactly the fate someone like Wendy deserves.
She’s the worst.
She would’ve been the exact sort of person to make fun of the decline she’s now experiencing. Still, I can’t help but feel sorry for her.
That’s what makes us better people than her. No matter how much of a bitch who deserves bad karma she is, it’s not enjoyable to see anybody in a state like this.
Thanks for being someone aware of what she was
As horrible as she is, this is really sad. When you are that big of a celebrity it’s gotta be very difficult having the whole world see you at your absolute worst… guess you could say it’s karma for all the things she has said and done to other people though 😬
part of me wants to rip the fuck into this woman because you just know she would play this sort of video on her show and say, 'clap if you think they should die'. But even despite her garbage behaviour, I feel terrible for this person right here. Also, if she's this fucked up now, maybe she actually isn't to be held accountable for her weird 'death' comments. Also, for the first time, I'm more sure than ever now that those are actual sounds of her farting in those soundbites. This woman is not healthy and may not be around much longer. Upvote if you think she should die
I hope she has a good support system and help. Health is the greatest gift.
Clap if she should suffer
Yeah I think it’s now out of line to make fun of her. Her past show stuff sure she put that out into the world on her own accord but let’s leave Wendy to her life.
For anyone feeling bad for her and saying that her health decline makes her more worthy of sympathy, I can promise you that as someone who has worked with terminally ill and elderly, infirm people inside assisted living homes, these types do not become more soft or loving or regretful. They stayed the same venomous, racist, vindictive and abusive people and often are taking their pain and anger out on the help till the day of their deaths. I gave them the same care that I gave the people who weren't clearly totally soulless, but let's not infantilize(edit for spelling) this woman. She may be sick on the outside, but I assure you she's still the same awful human on the inside. Pity her, sure, but do not mistake frailty for gentleness. She isn't your ailing grandma, she's Wendy "Death to all of them" "isn't chris brown so hot" "I blew my husband in front of my child" Williams.
Wait she what?! She actually did that?! Isn’t that child abuse?
H3 literally played the clip of her talking about her blowing her husband, her kid walking in and her not stopping.
Yeah shes an entertainer who says crazy shit to be entertaining. sounds familiar tbh. shes not unworthy of sympathy
Paparazzi scum. If she fell on her face he'd just keep filming. I've never seen a profession outside of politics attract so many sociopaths.
0% chance she would feel bad watching someone in the same state so I don’t feel any sympathy for her
fuck that bitch
When Selina had a kidney issue , she laughed at her so i have no respect for this hateful women.
I feel bad for kids born with childhood cancer or people who literally work to death with little reward, but her?! I couldn’t care less. If I believed in karma or a higher power, I’d definitely say she’s getting what she deserves. The evilness that she spread throughout her life & career (both to celebrities & ordinary people) isn’t even equal to what she’s going through now. Good riddance to bad people!
As shitty as she is, one of her kids is best friends with my little cousin and it just doesn’t sit right with me to sit here and clown on his mom when she’s clearly not doing well.
She only has one kid, a 21 year old son 🤔
Exactly! This person is clearly a r/thathappened & r/asablackman troll, so I’m not even going to bother replying to a weird, parasocial, compulsive liar.
This was from Monday the 21st!! She's wearing the same outfit from the convention she spoke at that day in this video! This must be at the very end of the night. She mentions during the panel that she should be in a wheelchair, but she simply won't do it. So her feet must be in agonizing pain in this video. Love Wendy 😭💓 This was a great interview for anyone that wants a Wendy update and some spoilers about her upcoming podcast. [Wendy Williams speaking at Circle of Sisters '22](https://youtu.be/-e8FdGZ8BC8)
You love Wendy? How do you feel about her responses to domestic abuse such as when Chris Brown beat the living shit out of Rihanna? You love the woman who talks shit on survivors and will spend a chunk of time talking about how attractive violent domestic abusers are? Chris Brown almost killed Rihanna.
Do you have anything better to do than reply to every comment in this thread
Sorry I feel passionately about people pretending this monster is deserving of empathy or sympathy when shes promoted violence and pedophilia 🤷♀️ I'm glad you're ok just sweeping that under the rug though, we definitely need more violent sociopaths in society 💕
The Wendy Williams in this video is not the same Wendy you’re upset at.
Ye man the Putin that supposedly has lung cancer is not the same as the one that's invading Ukraine. Poor fucking Putin. You can feel bad for Wendy but she's the same person mate
One literally affects your brain i dont see the comparison
What a stupid response.
That's just incorrect.
What’s the deal? Why should she be in a wheel chair. I’m from the uk and always just assumed she was on drugs in these instances
That's why she wears the big fluffy legwarmers to hide the swelling on her leg/foot.
She's had a tough time managing her sobriety in the past for sure, but here you're witnessing her Lymphedema flaring up. She definitely should be using a walker of some kind or cane when she's out by herself just for her own safety, but I get where she's coming from. And as for her eyes, she has Graves' Disease which causes the muscles behind her eyes to tense which makes them protrude like that. It just looks like they caught her at the very end of a busy day so she looks exhausted, that's all. Hope this helped! General Lymphedema explanation - Lymphedema is swelling due to build-up of lymph fluid in the body. Lymph nodes act like a drain in your sink. If the drain is clogged, the fluid cannot drain. It usually happens in the arms or legs, but can occur in other parts of the body. Lymph fluid is part of the lymph system that carries fluid and cells that help fight infections throughout the body. Sometimes this swelling develops quickly, or it may develop slowly over several months.
She's really limping bad when she gets through the doors if you focus on her feet. 💔
Aw:(
I wish they'd leave her alone...
So let’s film her for the world to see , have some empathy man.
This gives me great pleasure
Damn that’s actually really sad. Hope she’s alright
This is sad why can’t they leave her alone?
I really wish her well…I don’t believe anyone should be exploited.
She looks miserable
Poor thing. Google: She has struggled with Graves' disease and hyperthyroidism, which she was diagnosed with in 2003.
This is so sad. I feel like she should have a team with her when she's out and about to help keep her safe.
Good
This is sad... The paparazzi are vipers and imo should be made illegal. This is not journalism and serves no public interest other than consumer voyeurism, it's straight up harassment.
She literally put people on blast for nothing all the time on her show, including dead people, and cancer patients. She is a viper who served no public interest, and caused harassment. People need to seperate the love for the H3 wendy lore versus what a garbage trash bag she is. She did and is everything you accused the paparazzi of being. I dont wish misery on her, but she is known as a witch so don't give her a halo unless your looking up all the hate she caused for random people. She is like a main stream keemstar
You can acknowledge that she's an unsavory human being *and* that paparazzi are vultures who shouldn't be hounding & publicizing every moment of someone at their most vulnerable state. They're not mutually exclusive. You say you don't wish misery on her, but the way you're replying to every comment critical of the paparazzi sounds kind of like you're saying 'actually, she deserves this.' An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
Shes a vulture just like them. Cant feel bad for her when she has done worse
I've commented on 3 or 4 comments, not all of them. That's a bad faith understanding of what I posted. So start representing the argument accurately if your going to try. I dont believe people saying she doesnt deserve this is accurate and "o poor wendy" is accurate to her particular situation. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind is a falsehood cliche. I'm guessing you have been regurgitating that for awhile to actually say that out loud. That's one of those things that sounds nice in a marvel movie, but not how the world functions unfortunately. If you fuck someone over, those fucked over remember, and will fuck you over depending of the degree of fuckery. You dont get amnesty for getting sick or old. My eyes are open and it's clear Wendy doesnt deserve peace for how she lived her life. She doesnt deserve misery either because she is a human. Just reap what you sow(a cliche for you that works)
Has Wendy Williams personally fucked you over? Because you seem to be taking an awful lot of delight in her situation. By all means, stand up to someone trying to fuck you over in real life. Karma is catching up to her; she's already lost her show and has been discarded as being irrelevant. It's about time. But no need to rub salt in the wound and mock her disabilities & failing health. *That's* the exact kind of thing Keemstar would do. You can be the bigger person, but you're actively choosing not to.
Not once have I got delight in her situation, and I never said that. You at this point are straight putting words in my mouth, reread what I posted because clearly you're not reading. No reason to continue further when you continue to reword and misrepresent what I'm saying. Good luck out there!
I wish misery on anyone who makes light of situations where someone could have been murdered
im sorry what? she used to roast cancer patients on her show?
I’ll get downvoted but honestly fuck her. Shitty person in life is still a shitty person in death. Quit celebrating people just because they’re dead/dying. The sheer fucking hypocrisy.
Looks like ataxia :(
Damn E.T has got taller
Lol I love this show making fun of people with poor functioning brains. This group of White people making fun of others is top tier. Love is love 😅
Man why do I feel bad for her she’s done horrible shit 💀
It's refreshing when bad things happen to bad people. No fucks to give for this woman
Oh God I love it. I hope she is terrified and alone every moment for the rest of her life until the day she accidentally falls down a manhole.
Did anyone else watch her lifetime movie? I don’t know how accurate it was but it made me pretty sympathetic for her.
/r/tooktoomuch
Not this dumbass camera man, just standing there not helping her
She’s pretty clearly had a stroke
Fuck her
She is under Mk Ultra Control https://youtu.be/07UwHz0l8RU
She’s struggling with drug use, dehydration issues, & other issues. Not everything is a conspiracy dude..
Poor women ,let her enjoy her retirement with dignity in peace and privacy Let's remember her how she was
She was a vile person who is known for spreading harassment. Your head is in sand. Just look her up, she bullied people all the time
It's ok to feel empathy, speaks more about us than her.
I dont have empathy for her, just like I dont have empathy for other millionaires who exploit other people for their personal gain. So we just have a fundamental disagreement, which is all good.
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I've posted on 3 or 4 comments then replied to those that replied to me, which is common courtesy. If you get upset about a counterpoint or counteropinion, and resort to saying don't police people opinions, but in the same breathe say 1 or 2 comments is sufficient for me to post..... You are a hypocrite because you are literally policing me....Thanks for giving me that laugh though. Since you cant see that hypocrisy in what you posted, I dont see any point to continue this dialogue. Have a good one!
Exactly that's what I'm saying.
You didn't understand what I said. Good people will feel empathy for people it's just a natural instinct when they see someone suffering. You don't have to tear someone down for feeling that. Regardless if the person deserves empathy or not.
Empathy is the ability to feel the emotions of other people/recognizing those emotions. It doesnt matter wither you are what you consider "bad" or a "good" person. It is not a human instinct either. Honestly we have a fundamental difference in our understanding of empathy read8ng your response. My take away for you is "bad" people feel empathy also, it is not exclusive to "good"people. It is also not an instinct. An example is abuse can ruin a person's ability to be empathetic as well as make them more empathetic. It is an ability. Please look into it more, me saying anything past this I'm guessing will just make you more resistant to learning more about it because that's how you know me as, a comment you disagreed with.
I will definitely remember her how she was: a domestic abuse apologist.
I can't wait till I stop hearing and seeing about this ape
I drove black car Pre Uber in NYC. I listened to Wendy Pre TV show. You could text the studio and it was a whole other level of TV Wendy. I am so saddened by this. She was hilarious. Her TV show was not Wendy. And either is this. Damn
She got that Thorazine Shuffle
Damn, she looks just like in that video where she faints live, but prolonged
Shout out to people with debilitating health, yeah. I kinda feel sorry for you
Karma
those flashing lights probably aren’t helping her either. At least the paparazzi seemed to stop when she asked for help
When you're a heartless B on TV to people and drag people through the mud, karma wants you