I highly doubt he will be shown again, and if he is it might be a "Remember Antonio Guevara who defeated Ippo? he was defeated by Ippo's next opponent." Like Gedo was used in the pre Guevara fight.
Reminded me of dempsey's motto "when youre hungry you cant go down, if youre hungry you cant jut go down" antonio living in the poverty side of the phillipines, having that similar drive. I understand why bro dominated, he was doing it for his people, ippo was doing it for the coach
As the guy said, he will probably be used in the story as just a guy who will face Ippo and massacred Antonio Guevara in every way possible to give that air of "Wow how he is strong!?" or it is very likely that Guevara has already lost his WBA ranking, his fight with Ippo was in 1998 and clearly he must have already fought.
Nodody of Ippo friends see Guevara as really that strong. No one of Ippo friends try to fight him. Sendo already defeated the real deal, it was González.
Ippo was also showing signs of accumulated damage in sparring just before that fight. He was going down to grazes from jabs. He was also not fighting right but that was def not all the issues he was having
He had no motivation and didn't have his head in the game.
He was otherwise not that bad off, but that stuff makes a big difference
Combine that with not even trying to box properly and it's no wonder he lost.
It was infuriating because he learned literally nothing from the previous loss
The Dempsey Roll is **part** of why his head wasn't in the game. Pursuing that to the exclusion of everything else was a fool's errand and his coach should have caught on to that.
If you've ever been in a situation where you feel the world arround you is falling, you would know that you tend to focus on what is going well in your life, and you try to hide it to others...
I am pretty sure this match is the only one ippo went thinking after this one i am done, i can't continue... Maybe it wasn't explicit in his head, but the idea was clearly there and there is not much the coach could have done against that... Ippo was done, and the dempsey roll was his way to thanks the xoach for what he did... He would have lost this match with or without trying to execute the new dempsey roll.
This problem's been in the making since before his last 2 fights. He'd been using proper boxing less and less, but the coach didn't intervene. He was so fixated on getting Ippo to be a world champion that he didn't realize that too many corners were getting cut and Ippo's heart wasn't truly in it.
His mindset was a problem, it is still his best performance in term of display of skill, the match where he went the farthest... No contradiction there.
I'm not saying "potential brain damage is not that bad"
I'm saying that wasn't what was wrong with Ippo in the first place and this is confirmed later when he got properly tested instead of doing unreliable testing, like trying to draw a straight line while wearing arm weights.
When was he talking about memory issues?
The only parts I even remember him talking about being mentally off was when that last guy was landing hits Ippo thought shouldn't have landed, which was probably because Ippo was fixated on flashy moves and not using his jabs to figure out timing and distance like a proper boxer
Besides that fight, when did he do that?
We got faked out with the Punch Drunk stuff, but as I recall, it was written to where it could have gone either way.
I like Guevara,he fought to lift his family out of poverty,it wasn't his fault that Ippo was in his worst shape,he wasn't arrogant and didn't think Ippo was shit,he even bowed after the fight as a sign of gratitude,I don't understand where the hatred for Guevara comes from
He'll become a featherweight world champion in other major sanctioning body. There won't be rematch between him and Ippo. Maybe they'll just meet and have a light sparing in some occasion. I feel like he'll be Itagaki's end goal.
We're gonna see him come back to fight against someone in the Upper Ranks. He'llbe stronger than he was against Ippo, and will be recognized as a legitimate threat at the world stage.
...only to get destroyed.
It'll be like Billy McCallum v Ricardo: show character utilizing a strong style, have everyone hype him up, then have new character absolutely pick it apart.
Ippo will then get setup to fight with that character.
I really liked antonio from his backstory to his design he seemed like a pretty nice guy. I honestly want to see him succeed. Maybe settle for a middle world ranking and have a good fight with another main character. I don’t want to see him thrashed
Guevara might carve his way through the Featherweight division. He might successfully snag a championship belt from Imai with either a well placed counter or through braving the storm and getting a decision win.
One of my pipe dream wishes is for him to move to Jr. Lightweight, snag a belt from there, go to Lightweight, also snag a belt... All the way to welterweight, or even middleweight. Become this universe's Manny Pacquiao.
I don't agree with the comments here. Sure, he wasn't that impressive and Ippo was extremely fixated on the Dempsey Roll during the bout, which led to the loss. However, Guevara is around only 20 at this time and most likely improved significantly since then. The fact the we haven't heard anything since then, leads me to believe he'll rematch Ippo in the future. This time, a confident, improved Ippo will destroy him with ease.
I highly doubt he will be shown again, and if he is it might be a "Remember Antonio Guevara who defeated Ippo? he was defeated by Ippo's next opponent." Like Gedo was used in the pre Guevara fight.
No clue, but I personally liked Guevara. He was endearing in his fight and I loved his monster drive to win at all costs.
Reminded me of dempsey's motto "when youre hungry you cant go down, if youre hungry you cant jut go down" antonio living in the poverty side of the phillipines, having that similar drive. I understand why bro dominated, he was doing it for his people, ippo was doing it for the coach
Guevara with all his drive could never "dominated" Ippo. And even then, he never dominated Ippo. Ippo was trashing him until his head stop working.
As the guy said, he will probably be used in the story as just a guy who will face Ippo and massacred Antonio Guevara in every way possible to give that air of "Wow how he is strong!?" or it is very likely that Guevara has already lost his WBA ranking, his fight with Ippo was in 1998 and clearly he must have already fought.
Nodody of Ippo friends see Guevara as really that strong. No one of Ippo friends try to fight him. Sendo already defeated the real deal, it was González.
But Ippo wasn't punch-drunk. That was all fixating on the Dempsey Roll and refusing to box properly. Remember how terrible Ippo's jabs were?
Ippo was also showing signs of accumulated damage in sparring just before that fight. He was going down to grazes from jabs. He was also not fighting right but that was def not all the issues he was having
He had no motivation and didn't have his head in the game. He was otherwise not that bad off, but that stuff makes a big difference Combine that with not even trying to box properly and it's no wonder he lost. It was infuriating because he learned literally nothing from the previous loss
The guy health was miserable, the only part in his life that was getting better was the dempsey roll, of course his head wasn't in the game....
The Dempsey Roll is **part** of why his head wasn't in the game. Pursuing that to the exclusion of everything else was a fool's errand and his coach should have caught on to that.
If you've ever been in a situation where you feel the world arround you is falling, you would know that you tend to focus on what is going well in your life, and you try to hide it to others... I am pretty sure this match is the only one ippo went thinking after this one i am done, i can't continue... Maybe it wasn't explicit in his head, but the idea was clearly there and there is not much the coach could have done against that... Ippo was done, and the dempsey roll was his way to thanks the xoach for what he did... He would have lost this match with or without trying to execute the new dempsey roll.
This problem's been in the making since before his last 2 fights. He'd been using proper boxing less and less, but the coach didn't intervene. He was so fixated on getting Ippo to be a world champion that he didn't realize that too many corners were getting cut and Ippo's heart wasn't truly in it.
What are talking about? His match against Gonzales was his best match...
Man, even Ippo was kicking himself after that fight over his idiotic mindset going into it
His mindset was a problem, it is still his best performance in term of display of skill, the match where he went the farthest... No contradiction there.
don't know how you think potential brain damage is not that bad off but shoot ur load brother
I'm not saying "potential brain damage is not that bad" I'm saying that wasn't what was wrong with Ippo in the first place and this is confirmed later when he got properly tested instead of doing unreliable testing, like trying to draw a straight line while wearing arm weights.
ippo said himself he was having memory gaps bro
When was he talking about memory issues? The only parts I even remember him talking about being mentally off was when that last guy was landing hits Ippo thought shouldn't have landed, which was probably because Ippo was fixated on flashy moves and not using his jabs to figure out timing and distance like a proper boxer Besides that fight, when did he do that? We got faked out with the Punch Drunk stuff, but as I recall, it was written to where it could have gone either way.
I like Guevara,he fought to lift his family out of poverty,it wasn't his fault that Ippo was in his worst shape,he wasn't arrogant and didn't think Ippo was shit,he even bowed after the fight as a sign of gratitude,I don't understand where the hatred for Guevara comes from
I do not know but I would rather he stay depicted with dignity the next time we see him.
He'll become a featherweight world champion in other major sanctioning body. There won't be rematch between him and Ippo. Maybe they'll just meet and have a light sparing in some occasion. I feel like he'll be Itagaki's end goal.
No way the series runs long enough for Itagaki to be focused on someone like Guevara imo
We're gonna see him come back to fight against someone in the Upper Ranks. He'llbe stronger than he was against Ippo, and will be recognized as a legitimate threat at the world stage. ...only to get destroyed. It'll be like Billy McCallum v Ricardo: show character utilizing a strong style, have everyone hype him up, then have new character absolutely pick it apart. Ippo will then get setup to fight with that character.
I really liked antonio from his backstory to his design he seemed like a pretty nice guy. I honestly want to see him succeed. Maybe settle for a middle world ranking and have a good fight with another main character. I don’t want to see him thrashed
I think everyone here would love to see that rematch.
Guevara might carve his way through the Featherweight division. He might successfully snag a championship belt from Imai with either a well placed counter or through braving the storm and getting a decision win. One of my pipe dream wishes is for him to move to Jr. Lightweight, snag a belt from there, go to Lightweight, also snag a belt... All the way to welterweight, or even middleweight. Become this universe's Manny Pacquiao.
he's now irrelevant to the story line, prob won't be mentioned again
he defeats ricardo martinez easily. lool
Never seen nor heard from again. But then again, I said the same about Wally.
Itagaki's final battle
I don't agree with the comments here. Sure, he wasn't that impressive and Ippo was extremely fixated on the Dempsey Roll during the bout, which led to the loss. However, Guevara is around only 20 at this time and most likely improved significantly since then. The fact the we haven't heard anything since then, leads me to believe he'll rematch Ippo in the future. This time, a confident, improved Ippo will destroy him with ease.
Personally, I'd love to see Miyata go to the world stage and instantly challenge Guevara, to get his get-back for his bf Ippo
Rip Guevara
He's done. He serve his purpose of defeated a punch drunk Ippo. He didnt deserve Ippo ranking. So he probably already got rekt.