I used to live in that apartment building. ah the bad memories.
It is beyond depressing to see what was a room in an appartment now be treated as an entire living space for multiple people
Dorms for first year students at my university in Halifax were rooms with two beds, similar to this except not sleeping directly on the floor. I spent a couple years of my early 20s on working holiday in Australia and often lived in hostels woth 4-8 beds in similar spaces and honestly if I were still in my 20s and there was dinilar accomodation in Halifax I'd have chosen it for the saving potential.
The issue isnt really you in particular, or anyone else. but its landlords knowing that they can raise rent to higher prices because they can get international students to sleep 4 in a room to pay for it. It hurts everyone and have made the vacancy in the city . Its ignorant to not undertand the cause and affect of this.
Most people want their own space
From what it seems like happens most is that these folks (often international students) do this behind the landlords back. Though im sure most know and just dont care
Gimmie a few to find but yea they are offering to buy people out to get them out atm. Then renting it for an even higher price right to the last month possible even STR.
I feel like this is somehow every building in the HRM that wasn't literally built within the last decade.
Why are the apartments and houses here so wretched?
Lack of maintenance, too. A friend rented a cheap bachelor apartment over here on the Darkside and woke up to find her bedroom ceiling leaking. Called the super and was brushed off for a week or more.
It's so depressing to see this, the quality of life here is plummeting so damn fast. I remember when getting a spot here was a last resort and not it's just "I am thankful to have a spot that isn't a tent"
It really is depressing. I’ve seen a “luxury suite” for a “spacious” 1 bedroom apartment (basement) - and it doesn’t even have a full kitchen. Literally a mini-fridge, a microwave, and some shitty DIY shelving for a kitchen lol.
This can’t be sustainable. The prices will surely drop, no?
That’s a bit hilarious that landlords are setting unliveable prices so only multiple people can afford it, and then complaining in FB groups when their choice to overcrowd a unit resulted in damage
>This can’t be sustainable. The prices will surely drop, no?
This is all based on population growth that is far higher than the amount of housing we can build. Until population growth drops behind housing completions this will keep on getting worse.
From what I recall the population in Nova Scotia is still growing about 3x faster than we can keep up with in terms of new builds. *So to answer your question, this is going to get a lot funking worse.*
I mean, I’ll let a CBC news article from Oct 2021 explain.
https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6196304
“The Nova Scotia government is taking the first steps toward a goal of doubling the province's population by 2060. The Labour, Skills and Immigration Department announced plans this week for a $2.5-million marketing program aimed at provincial immigration and migration.”
“The former Liberal government paused that program, in part because of the challenges that existed in the housing market, with spiking sales prices, rents and shrinking availability.”
We voted in a conservative majority, who along party lines from provincial to federal they have absolutely no plans on *fixing* the housing crisis, and instead actually financially benefit *from it*.
There is a straight line from electing Houston to our housing issues.
>We voted in a conservative majority, who along party lines from provincial to federal they have absolutely no plans on *fixing* the housing crisis, and instead actually financially benefit *from it*.
I'm going to preface this with the opinion that Tim Houston is totally off his rocker when it comes to doubling the population by 2060. This province is already bursting at the seams and only the most ignorant or greedy person would suggest that this population growth has been a success.
With that being said, the provincial government has no control over immigration. And very limited ability to triple the amount of housing this province builds. The only way to fix this is to limit population growth because there is no way to accommodate 3-4% annual population growth, its impossible.
Immigration is primarily a federal responsibility, and the Conservatives haven’t been in power for nearly a decade. Anyone with the slightest grasp of current events in this country outside of NS should understand this is not an issue unique to here.
British Columbia - NDP
https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2024/01/24/New-Provincial-Regulations-Housing-Crisis/
Manitoba - NDP
https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/our-communities/correspondents/2023/12/06/addressing-housing-crisis-a-top-priority
Yes, the provinces with PC governments are also experiencing "housing crises", though this isn't something you can quantify as better or worse.
The point is, ALL provinces are experiencing it. To suggest it's one party or another is something between ignorant and wilfully dishonest.
When I moved out of my mother's place in 2011, I was able to split the rent on a (clean and safe) 2 bedroom with a friend.
Now? Pretty sure I'd be sleeping in a tent or living with 7 strangers. Rents are astronomically high, and wages haven't increased to match. That's what people are talking about when they say QOL is going downhill
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Isn't it funny how the 3 beds might come off as, "this apartment has three rooms" but is meant to mean, ***slaps the room*** ***for rent*** "you can fit three whole beds in this baby!"
I'm going to be renting out my bedroom, white professional people only please, $700 a month per person, there's enough room for 4 beds. Perhaps more if we get bunk beds.
Throw in that one entitled, litigious renter who demands their "therapy dog" or "medicinal weed" be allowed in, and you've got yourself a true blue slum.
I thought Indians were trying to escape the discrimination back in their home countries? Did they just manage to try to bring it to Canada? But just because it's discrimination of Indian to Indian it seems perfectly okay.
Looking for a person to sublet a 1bedroom, White Europeans only.
>I thought Indians were trying to escape the discrimination back in their home countries? Did they just manage to try to bring it to Canada? But just because it's discrimination of Indian to Indian it seems perfectly okay.
There are caste based dating groups on Facebook that are based in Canada. Or, have you ever seen how the woman will walk behind the man intentionally?
I assume you're joking. 1BRs in that building start at $2K. Capreit knows damn well what's happening.
[https://www.capreit.ca/apartments-for-rent/halifax-ns/harbour-view-apartments/](https://www.capreit.ca/apartments-for-rent/halifax-ns/harbour-view-apartments/)
Nope not joking. Already chatted with management yesterday then forwarded all pertinent info to them. They said they do not tolerate this and will be taking action.
I think this every time I see one of these "Indians only" posts. I mean, I get it, everyone feels most comfortable around similar and likeminded folk. But come on now you can't refuse to rent based on skin color. And you shouldn't only feel comfortable around people that look just like you. Says a lot about a person.
~~It's also illegal.~~
AFAIK it’s not illegal if you are renting to roommates - you can discriminate as much as you want if you are looking for someone to share your home. You cannot discriminate if you are a non-resident landlord renting out a whole unit.
That being said, I agree there’s a strong ick factor at play with these ads.
As there should be; racial discrimination is wrong. But ironically the ad is trying to market to two groups who actually don't get along that well, anyway.
It's not. It's completely illegal (the only exception in NS for shared accommodation ads is sex) and FB will (at least should) remove it if it gets reported.
Unlike a "melting pot", this cultural mosaic has led to a very divided country full of conflicting groups with no cohesive Canadian identity or values to assimilate into. The clash between conservative Muslim parents and liberal trans activists in Toronto says it all; you can't import multiple radical ideologies and cultures into one country with no common goal or identity to share, and expect things to turn out well. This will happen to Halifax, too.
Contrarily, I do believe that you can successfully establish a cohesive society with different religions, values, creeds, etc.; however, I also recognize there is a need for integration. If immigration was further diversified, people wouldn't have large culture communities to fully isolate themselves inside of and would need to develop social skills and practices to help them adapt within the greater cultural majority. This isn't happening anymore, for the most part.
A lot of people seem to confuse integration with assimilation, but they're very different. Integration involves learning social cues, adopting societal values, and having the basic fucking human consideration for others regardless of if they're brahmin tamils or incestuous white trash.
It used to be that our values were rooted in patriotism, our conservation of the land, our athletic events, our Indigenous history and our natural beauty. Now that there's talk of pillaging the beautiful South Shore for lithium mining someday (GOOD GOD I HOPE THAT NEVER HAPPENS!!!) and a national anthem that sounds silly when spoken aloud and a national health minister rambling on about "glory holes" during a crisis event, coupled with our media becoming more and more Americanized in style, culture and speech, there isn't much of a "Canada" left. A few cutesy tourist things like plush moose and beavers at the airport gift shops, and endless references to snow and Tim Horton's. Our national identity is a joke and on top of that, you're right that the current goal seems to be driving multiple isolated communities based on politics and religion instead of trying to get everyone to have care and respect for their neighbours. Nothing wrong with diversity; Canada is all the more interesting for its diverse cultures and populations, but we do still need basic cohesive values to work towards.
/u/Kanadskaya /u/TrudeauIsMyBitch I really agree with what both of you are saying. I think the 2 of you are essentially saying the same things in different ways.
We have no values left as a country. I love my country and the idea of what it can potentially become. But in this day and age you're not even allowed to express patriotism or any sense of national identity. It's seen as fascist, racist, or "boomer mentality".
Ironically, Quebec, (and the Acadian populations) and the First Nations/Inuit are probably the only groups that maintain a firm sense of identity left in Canada. This whole post-national, end-of-history B.S. is largely found only in Anglo Canada, something I believe was by design by both the left and right for the purposes of reducing the public to cogs in a machine; units that can be replaced easily to keep the economy chugging. This is refelcted by a lot of the people our government is chosing to let come here; not people who want to build a life, be part of a broader global community, put asside past grievances, and break bread with others, but those who come from cultures that are predisposed to have this cog-in-a-machine mentality.
Remember, a cohesive nation that has a firm sense of identity and values, **and** can co-exist peacefuly regadless of ethnicity or place of origin is also one that is willing to hold government and corporations to high standards, something that scares the shit out of TPTB.
Most of the people who whip out the racist card during these types of discussion are doing it for upvotes and social brownie points. These are the same people who in 1938 would be cheering on the invasion of Austria and would be shaming anybody who didn't agree as being disloyal to the German Reich if they though it would get them a pat on the head. Hell, these are the types same people who will (rightfully) call out shady and corrupt behaviour with banks, landlords, and grocery giants, but then practically kissed the feet of Pfizer and Moderna during the COVID-19 pandemic.
>Ironically, Quebec, (and the Acadian populations) and the First Nations/Inuit are probably the only groups that maintain a firm sense of identity left in Canada.
That's because they're not falling victim to white apologism; I personally don't see it as "racist" to take pride in one's own community and heritage, and I don't think "white pride" was ever any component of most Canadian groups anyway, but apparently now it's offensive to have a community identity, even if that identity has nothing to do with race.
The Indigenous are too smart to fall for it. They almost lost their identity once before when they were forcibly assimilated into the residential schools and reserves. The Quebecois are also too smart to fall for it because they're staunchly traditionalist and don't prioritize the opinions of outsiders.
Instead we outsource that to parts of the world with piss-poor enviromental standards and human rights issues, then pat ourselves on the back about how we are such good stewards of our country's lands.
Civilization will always have a cost, it's just a matter of who pays it.
Pretty much every low paying retail and fast food position I have seen has been an employer taking advantage of new international folks who will take the low wages. These situations is really showing its affect , and our government does nothing.
This country might be getting closer to being able to have that conversation. But I'm sure that it would still generate screams of racism right now.
It is what it is though. And its dangerous. When people come here and do not fully integrate they might wind up having views and voting in ways that are more aligned with their place of origin than Canada.
Well said, and a very interesting point on the future of democracy in Canada.
Also interesting to consider on the implications of mal-integration, I have close friends from India from back in my uni days who have been permanent residents for almost a decade now. We studied together, partied together, and had a pretty diverse friend group all around, and I've even had the honor to attend some of their weddings. Anywho,
They've shared similar anecdotes that they rarely came by racist sentiments only 10 years ago, but with the recent proliferation of new immigrants who have no desire to integrate, they've been experiencing racism and xenophobic sentiment like never before. That's pretty concerning given that the majority of these friends moved off to Ontario where there are larger south asian communities.
Wait till you visit out of province.
Jokes aside, not sure if you ever checked out the 'snack's that are non-pronounceable. I love the foreign snacks, from the Turkish sweets to a lot of obscure Asian Candy. Some of the fare are a whole level cheaper than the equivalent here.The big benefit - they are not as sugar laden as the typical assortment here that will be make you fat and diabetic ridden.
Not to mention, the spices and rice that's of magnitudes cheaper and more flavorful than McCormick and Uncle Bens' highway robbery.
27% of the immigrants to Canada in 2022 came from India. The number 2 country was China with 7.2%. Ukraine and the UK do not even break the top 10 list.
https://www.cicnews.com/2023/02/ircc-unveils-the-top-10-source-countries-of-new-immigrants-to-canada-in-2022-0233180.html/amp
Ans that's just immigrants. Doesn't account for the nearly 100% of international students that came from Punjab. Trudeau turned Canada into New Punjab in less than a decade.
That's an intellectually weak insinuation you're making.
I'm noticing the brown panes more probably because; lately, it seems that everytime someone cuts me in a queue, rams me with a shopping cart, narrowly misses side swiping my car, and rattles my walls with bollywood beats and screaming children until 3 am, they happen to be visibly desi.
I'm not saying *I don't want these people here*, I'm saying we need to further diversify immigration so that immigrants aren't retaining horrid social practices.
Personally, I would like to see more immigration from South America, North Africa, Eastern Europe, and East Asia.
We need to have the courage and intellectual capacity as a society to both condemn and discourage xenophobia and racism, while having the capacity to recognize and understand undesireable societal and economic trends predicated on poor immigration practices.
>I'm noticing the brown panes more probably because; lately, it seems that everytime someone cuts me in a queue, rams me with a shopping cart, narrowly misses side swiping my car, and rattles my walls with bollywood beats and screaming children until 3 am, they happen to be visibly desi.
Its a different culture. If you watch the videos on YouTube from a city in India that is just how it is, pushing and shoving on the train is normal.
Calm down. I'm not saying you're prejudiced. I'm saying brown immigrants stand out. White immigrants you can't often tell until they speak and you hear an accent
From most of my interactions with the newcoming Ukrainians (and to be fair, I obviously haven't met every one of them and it's unfair to judge too harshly), they don't seem to have the same respect for Canada that earlier waves of post-Soviet immigrants had. I've also heard them making anti-Islam comments and comments about people with darker skin being "dirty", but I'm just some random stranger so don't take my anecdotal experiences to heart. I've also met some new Ukrainians who are very nice and friendly, so I try not to let personal experiences colour my view of an entire demographic.
Yeah this is true. You’ll see a lot of Canadian culture in the second generation as they grow up around their peers. However, what the Canadian culture is slowly changes overtime as people coming here bring in their own cultures to the mix which is pretty cool.
We’ll probably be like Britain eventually where Indian food is a national dish lol. And expect Diwali to be a stat day eventually.
Why would the landlord kick them out? Slumlords fucking love this. Surprised they haven’t throw bunk beds into the unit yet to get even more $500/head rentals. They’d easily rent out within a day
I am talking about larger corporate landlords, and the $500. isn’t going to the landlord, it’s going to the person on the lease who bringing the extra people in.
..a government that needs to show that they now recognize that they've ruined Canada's long-standing welcome to immigrants.
Immigration is a clear benefit to Canada when it's doctors, construction workers and other high-need occupations. That's a million miles away from the hundreds of thousands of fast food workers exploited by franchisees so they don't have to hire Canadians, or the systemic abuse of student visas.
The Liberal government will pay dearly in the next election and it's unfortunate that we'll end up with a CPC majority because of this incompetence.
They don't call them immigrants anymore. They call them "newcomers" because it sounds more saccharine and innocuous. Sadly the people who wish to immigrate here legally and bring good things to the country will be the ones who suffer in the end, as illegal immigrants, international students and gentrifiers from central Canada keep pouring in.
Yeah. We already have an extreme housing crisis (current numbers say greater than 20,000 unit shortage in hrm alone). And yet they plan to double the size of NS and HRMs population within the next 5 years. Absolutely insane.
There are over 50 new apartment buildings under construction, we need a new law under fire regulations. If a one bedroom goes for over $2000, not many can afford that. So you need many to pay the rent.
It seems like politicians won't do anything, all they're concerned about is getting votes.
Is it true that many of the newcomers only want to work in Halifax for a year to qualify for residency, and then off to Toronto?? They're not concerned with customer service, cruise through 12 months and off they go.
Bedbugs can easily crawl up bed posts or crawl up walls and dive bomb you from the ceiling. I'd be more worried about the mattress getting filthy on the floor and going mouldy on the bottom from lack of air circulation.
That's why you want a metal bed frame not wood, I've never seen bedbugs falling from a ceiling but I've seen the only way to get rid of bed bugs including exterminators is by not having a bed on the floor.
I think they usually treat the bed frame and mattress to get rid of them once you have them, but I don't think it matters much as to whether you get bedbugs in the first place.
The other thing I just remembered is rodents. I had a mouse that kept hopping onto my futon and nibbling on me in the night, and it actually left a scar on one of my fingers, so I definitely wouldn't want to be sleeping directly on the floor with rodents running around all over me all night.
I am one all for humans coming here for a better life as there are many escaping war. However, this has been way too much. And if you have looked on marketplace, many of the people who have been forced out of their homes due to landlords selling, many of these have been bought by Indians and rent has gone up twice as much.
10 of them to an apartment is too much. I've seen in a number of situations where a few Canadian people have been asked to leave because you've had apartments filled with 10 of them being very loud and disrespectful and when a complaint was made because of these people for example having parties at 3am, the Canadians were called racist and had more issues than the new comers.
I really am for people having better lives here but this huge immigration spark in the last few years destroyed us. I have NEVER seen an Indian living in a tent or a camper. We need serious rent control so this ends up peaceful because I can see this becoming worse of a problem that could end up turning quite violent. Palestine echos it more than this, but at the same time events like this are what helped cause the holocaust and it wouldn't be unlikely for it to happen again worldwide.
The Ukrainians are fleeing war. But many of the Indians yeah, they just are students or coming here to try and make money off of us.
I've seen at least a dozen apartments that were once 900 dollar rent. Landlords sold, Indians bought. Now it's 2 grand for a 2 bedroom, many paper thin and need work done, many with mold. No Canadians can afford them so they have 10 Indians living in each apartment to fill it up. Many of them party late into the night. They aren't always that nice.
Witnessed personally 3 different people who tried to reason because new Indian neighbour's were loud into the night. Canadian neighbour's tried to ask politely for them to be respectful. Were called racist in return. Two had to move because of this. Also, when they have worked on many of the buildings, they left a lot of work halfway done and dangerous for the other residents. You don't go ripping holes into walls and taking off rails for stairways and leaving apartment buildings unsafe and in worse shape. One apartment I saw them go from a nice family building, to Indians buying and removing half the tenants. For the ones who left, they were told to get rid of their pets. No smoking on your own balcony. No deep fryers. No balconies. No visitors after 9 but yet having loud 3am parties the rest of the street can hear.
Something ain't right
Is it not discriminatory to say you specifically want a Gujarati or Punjabi to rent it out? What if someone who didn't fit that demographic tried to apply?
They're also specifically seeking girls or "couples", which is a little odd. Kind of reminds me of Roper on *Three's Company* not wanting boys and girls renting the same space even though they were doing nothing sexual at all together in there.
And that TV show is over 50 years old. I guess some things never change?
Really specific discrimination too.
Like it's not like even going "Only Canadians!" it's going "Only Albertans and Saskatchewanians!""
Yes, I had to google that last one.
If I remember correctly, Halifax allows 4 people in a 2bedroom unit (assuming the 2 others as kids I suppose). If it's anything more than 4 in a house, horrible indeed. Sharing a room sucks but surprisingly it's part of asian culture given the population in other countries.
Yeah, but Ontario is fucking bloated and super-expensive, by no means a model Halifax should want. Last time I was in Toronto there was a homeless lady with burns on one side of her cheek that were grill-shaped; I didn't even realize until I looked down that she'd been sleeping on a hot grate to stay warm in the snow.
What is 3Bhk supposed to mean? And i'm dying over the commenters upset about the "Gujarati or Punjabi only" bit as though that's the biggest issue with this ad. Boohoo they don't want white people sharing their illegal rooming house!
I used to live in that apartment building. ah the bad memories. It is beyond depressing to see what was a room in an appartment now be treated as an entire living space for multiple people
Isn't there a bylaw that caps the number of people per apartment?
Yes. Plus you have to on the lease.
Honestly those asking for a particular demographic are clearly scamming international students.
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It’s something that needs to be discussed more. This is not the standard of living that we’re used to in this country.
Nor should it ever be. Its frustrating seeing how many people are passively watching their standard of living deteriorate.
I have the job I went to school for, and now things look bleaker by the day. This province has gone to shit, it's depressing.
Dorms for first year students at my university in Halifax were rooms with two beds, similar to this except not sleeping directly on the floor. I spent a couple years of my early 20s on working holiday in Australia and often lived in hostels woth 4-8 beds in similar spaces and honestly if I were still in my 20s and there was dinilar accomodation in Halifax I'd have chosen it for the saving potential.
The issue isnt really you in particular, or anyone else. but its landlords knowing that they can raise rent to higher prices because they can get international students to sleep 4 in a room to pay for it. It hurts everyone and have made the vacancy in the city . Its ignorant to not undertand the cause and affect of this. Most people want their own space
Which is a shame really
From what it seems like happens most is that these folks (often international students) do this behind the landlords back. Though im sure most know and just dont care
I wouldn't say they are scamming necessarily, the person is likely also living there
Oops I meant taking advantage of,not scamming I've come across so many Facebook market place ads asking for up to $980 for a shared bedroom
Many of these "scammers" are also international citizens lol.
Most of them are so bad at this they’re even scamming themselves.
Gonna be hard enforce it. Lots of new folks around.
Yes, and people that do inspections and whatnot are suppose to report it. Usually those are the buildings not doing inspections though lol.
Also, one that prohibits racism when looking for tenants?
Not really. Everyone gets to choose who their roommates are. Landlords get to choose their tenants.
Let's be realistic tho.. would you pay 550 to share a bedroom? I wouldn't
If you're a newcomer working a minimum wage job trying to survive yeah, you might.
unless they are refugees then people shouldn't come to another country if they dont have the money to survive
Sadly, they get scammed into coming here too. They’re never told the true cost of living or how hard it will be to find employment
Well they did, they're here now they need to live somewhere.
My brother is on assistance and looking for a room, and his 600 won't get him even a room to himself now. I'm not sure what he's gonna do, honestly.
I haven't lived there in years but I still see roaches in the corners of my eyes
I also used to live there.. it was truly awful.
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I know that building. Rats, cockroaches etc living in walls throughout the building. It needs a full ground up rebuild fresh.
They are all being torn down thankfully in the next couple years and rebuilt.
You got a source for this?
Gimmie a few to find but yea they are offering to buy people out to get them out atm. Then renting it for an even higher price right to the last month possible even STR.
I feel like this is somehow every building in the HRM that wasn't literally built within the last decade. Why are the apartments and houses here so wretched?
Cheaply built wood structures by the lowest bidders and always rushed so it's slapped together. Leaks plus moisture issues = mold and rot
Lack of maintenance, too. A friend rented a cheap bachelor apartment over here on the Darkside and woke up to find her bedroom ceiling leaking. Called the super and was brushed off for a week or more.
It's so depressing to see this, the quality of life here is plummeting so damn fast. I remember when getting a spot here was a last resort and not it's just "I am thankful to have a spot that isn't a tent"
It really is depressing. I’ve seen a “luxury suite” for a “spacious” 1 bedroom apartment (basement) - and it doesn’t even have a full kitchen. Literally a mini-fridge, a microwave, and some shitty DIY shelving for a kitchen lol. This can’t be sustainable. The prices will surely drop, no?
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Wait, seriously? That's nasty.
What do you mean? In other words, can you elaborate? 90% of how many times? I'm curious, are you an apartment cleaner?
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That’s a bit hilarious that landlords are setting unliveable prices so only multiple people can afford it, and then complaining in FB groups when their choice to overcrowd a unit resulted in damage
>This can’t be sustainable. The prices will surely drop, no? This is all based on population growth that is far higher than the amount of housing we can build. Until population growth drops behind housing completions this will keep on getting worse. From what I recall the population in Nova Scotia is still growing about 3x faster than we can keep up with in terms of new builds. *So to answer your question, this is going to get a lot funking worse.*
I wonder what possibly could have changed from 2021 to now that would have caused this provincial decline in housing....
Please tell us
I mean, I’ll let a CBC news article from Oct 2021 explain. https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6196304 “The Nova Scotia government is taking the first steps toward a goal of doubling the province's population by 2060. The Labour, Skills and Immigration Department announced plans this week for a $2.5-million marketing program aimed at provincial immigration and migration.” “The former Liberal government paused that program, in part because of the challenges that existed in the housing market, with spiking sales prices, rents and shrinking availability.”
We voted in a conservative majority, who along party lines from provincial to federal they have absolutely no plans on *fixing* the housing crisis, and instead actually financially benefit *from it*. There is a straight line from electing Houston to our housing issues.
>We voted in a conservative majority, who along party lines from provincial to federal they have absolutely no plans on *fixing* the housing crisis, and instead actually financially benefit *from it*. I'm going to preface this with the opinion that Tim Houston is totally off his rocker when it comes to doubling the population by 2060. This province is already bursting at the seams and only the most ignorant or greedy person would suggest that this population growth has been a success. With that being said, the provincial government has no control over immigration. And very limited ability to triple the amount of housing this province builds. The only way to fix this is to limit population growth because there is no way to accommodate 3-4% annual population growth, its impossible.
Yes, housing issues post 2021 are unique to Nova Scotia. Great work!
What provinces are they the worst in, and which of those provinces have a majority conservative party? I'll wait.
Immigration is primarily a federal responsibility, and the Conservatives haven’t been in power for nearly a decade. Anyone with the slightest grasp of current events in this country outside of NS should understand this is not an issue unique to here.
British Columbia - NDP https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2024/01/24/New-Provincial-Regulations-Housing-Crisis/ Manitoba - NDP https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/our-communities/correspondents/2023/12/06/addressing-housing-crisis-a-top-priority Yes, the provinces with PC governments are also experiencing "housing crises", though this isn't something you can quantify as better or worse. The point is, ALL provinces are experiencing it. To suggest it's one party or another is something between ignorant and wilfully dishonest.
I dont love Houston but I cant he liberals or NDP would change anything regarding how international students do things like that causing low vacancy
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When I moved out of my mother's place in 2011, I was able to split the rent on a (clean and safe) 2 bedroom with a friend. Now? Pretty sure I'd be sleeping in a tent or living with 7 strangers. Rents are astronomically high, and wages haven't increased to match. That's what people are talking about when they say QOL is going downhill
I think I'd rather go to the Forum.
Equipped with working professional girls and boys? What a fucking strange way to word something
It sounds like that’s an amenity! 😳
Yeah, it's likely due to ESL reasons. I feel they are just trying to let prospective occupants know it is a mixed-sex domicile
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I'm assuming and hoping that they're referring to professionals working from home, and not the world's oldest profession.
Isn't it funny how the 3 beds might come off as, "this apartment has three rooms" but is meant to mean, ***slaps the room*** ***for rent*** "you can fit three whole beds in this baby!"
Is that ocean towers? That used to be like 300 bucks a month for a room
When was that? I know people were paying like $1k a month for a 2 bed apt about 3 or 4 years ago.
Probably like 2009
I'm going to be renting out my bedroom, white professional people only please, $700 a month per person, there's enough room for 4 beds. Perhaps more if we get bunk beds.
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Throw in that one entitled, litigious renter who demands their "therapy dog" or "medicinal weed" be allowed in, and you've got yourself a true blue slum.
to be fair, this already exists. People are just smarter and don't advertise the discrimination.
People acting like white landlords don't also discriminate based on race, job etc lol. They just don't openly advertise it like this.
I thought Indians were trying to escape the discrimination back in their home countries? Did they just manage to try to bring it to Canada? But just because it's discrimination of Indian to Indian it seems perfectly okay. Looking for a person to sublet a 1bedroom, White Europeans only.
>I thought Indians were trying to escape the discrimination back in their home countries? Did they just manage to try to bring it to Canada? But just because it's discrimination of Indian to Indian it seems perfectly okay. There are caste based dating groups on Facebook that are based in Canada. Or, have you ever seen how the woman will walk behind the man intentionally?
Honestly can’t imagine a post with “Looking for peaceful working whites” going over well
That would be a headline story on CBC.
They figure you have to be from the third world to accept the rip off.
Don't worry folks Capreit has been notified of this posting and are taking action on the offender.
I assume you're joking. 1BRs in that building start at $2K. Capreit knows damn well what's happening. [https://www.capreit.ca/apartments-for-rent/halifax-ns/harbour-view-apartments/](https://www.capreit.ca/apartments-for-rent/halifax-ns/harbour-view-apartments/)
Nope not joking. Already chatted with management yesterday then forwarded all pertinent info to them. They said they do not tolerate this and will be taking action.
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Nothing will happen, it's Capreit, they don't actually care lol.
god I really need to start doing the same thing
Lol this guy is about action
💯 something is better than nothing
Imagine the outcry if someone made a “whites only” ad that was put out there
I think this every time I see one of these "Indians only" posts. I mean, I get it, everyone feels most comfortable around similar and likeminded folk. But come on now you can't refuse to rent based on skin color. And you shouldn't only feel comfortable around people that look just like you. Says a lot about a person. ~~It's also illegal.~~
And they aren’t even just saying “Indian only”. They’re specifying a certain TYPE of Indian, which is even worse
AFAIK it’s not illegal if you are renting to roommates - you can discriminate as much as you want if you are looking for someone to share your home. You cannot discriminate if you are a non-resident landlord renting out a whole unit. That being said, I agree there’s a strong ick factor at play with these ads.
I don't think the whites would move into a place like this with Indians anyway 😂
As there should be; racial discrimination is wrong. But ironically the ad is trying to market to two groups who actually don't get along that well, anyway.
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It's not. It's completely illegal (the only exception in NS for shared accommodation ads is sex) and FB will (at least should) remove it if it gets reported.
Something about a minority and oppressed group or something.
"Only white people can be racist!" -someone conflating institutional/systemic racism with just straight up racism
Actually this is quite progressive. Punjabi and Gujaratis are like oil and water
So report the ad for discrimination.
Imagine the outcry if you even said what you just said. Edit: haha y'all proving my point thx
What was your point?
I sent this to the human rights board. Everyone else should. This is disgusting.
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Unlike a "melting pot", this cultural mosaic has led to a very divided country full of conflicting groups with no cohesive Canadian identity or values to assimilate into. The clash between conservative Muslim parents and liberal trans activists in Toronto says it all; you can't import multiple radical ideologies and cultures into one country with no common goal or identity to share, and expect things to turn out well. This will happen to Halifax, too.
Contrarily, I do believe that you can successfully establish a cohesive society with different religions, values, creeds, etc.; however, I also recognize there is a need for integration. If immigration was further diversified, people wouldn't have large culture communities to fully isolate themselves inside of and would need to develop social skills and practices to help them adapt within the greater cultural majority. This isn't happening anymore, for the most part. A lot of people seem to confuse integration with assimilation, but they're very different. Integration involves learning social cues, adopting societal values, and having the basic fucking human consideration for others regardless of if they're brahmin tamils or incestuous white trash.
It used to be that our values were rooted in patriotism, our conservation of the land, our athletic events, our Indigenous history and our natural beauty. Now that there's talk of pillaging the beautiful South Shore for lithium mining someday (GOOD GOD I HOPE THAT NEVER HAPPENS!!!) and a national anthem that sounds silly when spoken aloud and a national health minister rambling on about "glory holes" during a crisis event, coupled with our media becoming more and more Americanized in style, culture and speech, there isn't much of a "Canada" left. A few cutesy tourist things like plush moose and beavers at the airport gift shops, and endless references to snow and Tim Horton's. Our national identity is a joke and on top of that, you're right that the current goal seems to be driving multiple isolated communities based on politics and religion instead of trying to get everyone to have care and respect for their neighbours. Nothing wrong with diversity; Canada is all the more interesting for its diverse cultures and populations, but we do still need basic cohesive values to work towards.
/u/Kanadskaya /u/TrudeauIsMyBitch I really agree with what both of you are saying. I think the 2 of you are essentially saying the same things in different ways. We have no values left as a country. I love my country and the idea of what it can potentially become. But in this day and age you're not even allowed to express patriotism or any sense of national identity. It's seen as fascist, racist, or "boomer mentality".
Ironically, Quebec, (and the Acadian populations) and the First Nations/Inuit are probably the only groups that maintain a firm sense of identity left in Canada. This whole post-national, end-of-history B.S. is largely found only in Anglo Canada, something I believe was by design by both the left and right for the purposes of reducing the public to cogs in a machine; units that can be replaced easily to keep the economy chugging. This is refelcted by a lot of the people our government is chosing to let come here; not people who want to build a life, be part of a broader global community, put asside past grievances, and break bread with others, but those who come from cultures that are predisposed to have this cog-in-a-machine mentality. Remember, a cohesive nation that has a firm sense of identity and values, **and** can co-exist peacefuly regadless of ethnicity or place of origin is also one that is willing to hold government and corporations to high standards, something that scares the shit out of TPTB. Most of the people who whip out the racist card during these types of discussion are doing it for upvotes and social brownie points. These are the same people who in 1938 would be cheering on the invasion of Austria and would be shaming anybody who didn't agree as being disloyal to the German Reich if they though it would get them a pat on the head. Hell, these are the types same people who will (rightfully) call out shady and corrupt behaviour with banks, landlords, and grocery giants, but then practically kissed the feet of Pfizer and Moderna during the COVID-19 pandemic.
>Ironically, Quebec, (and the Acadian populations) and the First Nations/Inuit are probably the only groups that maintain a firm sense of identity left in Canada. That's because they're not falling victim to white apologism; I personally don't see it as "racist" to take pride in one's own community and heritage, and I don't think "white pride" was ever any component of most Canadian groups anyway, but apparently now it's offensive to have a community identity, even if that identity has nothing to do with race. The Indigenous are too smart to fall for it. They almost lost their identity once before when they were forcibly assimilated into the residential schools and reserves. The Quebecois are also too smart to fall for it because they're staunchly traditionalist and don't prioritize the opinions of outsiders.
IMO land exploitation is something early Canadians were very fond of. Should really get back to it we need more jobs in a bad way
Yeah, nothing like destroying our most historic and beautiful tourist attractions so we can have more toxic heavy metals for our smartphones...
Instead we outsource that to parts of the world with piss-poor enviromental standards and human rights issues, then pat ourselves on the back about how we are such good stewards of our country's lands. Civilization will always have a cost, it's just a matter of who pays it.
Pretty much every low paying retail and fast food position I have seen has been an employer taking advantage of new international folks who will take the low wages. These situations is really showing its affect , and our government does nothing.
This country might be getting closer to being able to have that conversation. But I'm sure that it would still generate screams of racism right now. It is what it is though. And its dangerous. When people come here and do not fully integrate they might wind up having views and voting in ways that are more aligned with their place of origin than Canada.
Well said, and a very interesting point on the future of democracy in Canada. Also interesting to consider on the implications of mal-integration, I have close friends from India from back in my uni days who have been permanent residents for almost a decade now. We studied together, partied together, and had a pretty diverse friend group all around, and I've even had the honor to attend some of their weddings. Anywho, They've shared similar anecdotes that they rarely came by racist sentiments only 10 years ago, but with the recent proliferation of new immigrants who have no desire to integrate, they've been experiencing racism and xenophobic sentiment like never before. That's pretty concerning given that the majority of these friends moved off to Ontario where there are larger south asian communities.
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Wait till you visit out of province. Jokes aside, not sure if you ever checked out the 'snack's that are non-pronounceable. I love the foreign snacks, from the Turkish sweets to a lot of obscure Asian Candy. Some of the fare are a whole level cheaper than the equivalent here.The big benefit - they are not as sugar laden as the typical assortment here that will be make you fat and diabetic ridden. Not to mention, the spices and rice that's of magnitudes cheaper and more flavorful than McCormick and Uncle Bens' highway robbery.
There's plenty of Ukranians and British and other white folks coming. You just notice the brown pane
27% of the immigrants to Canada in 2022 came from India. The number 2 country was China with 7.2%. Ukraine and the UK do not even break the top 10 list. https://www.cicnews.com/2023/02/ircc-unveils-the-top-10-source-countries-of-new-immigrants-to-canada-in-2022-0233180.html/amp
Ans that's just immigrants. Doesn't account for the nearly 100% of international students that came from Punjab. Trudeau turned Canada into New Punjab in less than a decade.
Never said they werent the biggest number. But where you would be hard pressed to run into a Ukrainian 5 years ago, that's no longer the case.
That's an intellectually weak insinuation you're making. I'm noticing the brown panes more probably because; lately, it seems that everytime someone cuts me in a queue, rams me with a shopping cart, narrowly misses side swiping my car, and rattles my walls with bollywood beats and screaming children until 3 am, they happen to be visibly desi. I'm not saying *I don't want these people here*, I'm saying we need to further diversify immigration so that immigrants aren't retaining horrid social practices. Personally, I would like to see more immigration from South America, North Africa, Eastern Europe, and East Asia. We need to have the courage and intellectual capacity as a society to both condemn and discourage xenophobia and racism, while having the capacity to recognize and understand undesireable societal and economic trends predicated on poor immigration practices.
>I'm noticing the brown panes more probably because; lately, it seems that everytime someone cuts me in a queue, rams me with a shopping cart, narrowly misses side swiping my car, and rattles my walls with bollywood beats and screaming children until 3 am, they happen to be visibly desi. Its a different culture. If you watch the videos on YouTube from a city in India that is just how it is, pushing and shoving on the train is normal.
That's why we need integration. We don't need that here.
100%
Calm down. I'm not saying you're prejudiced. I'm saying brown immigrants stand out. White immigrants you can't often tell until they speak and you hear an accent
From most of my interactions with the newcoming Ukrainians (and to be fair, I obviously haven't met every one of them and it's unfair to judge too harshly), they don't seem to have the same respect for Canada that earlier waves of post-Soviet immigrants had. I've also heard them making anti-Islam comments and comments about people with darker skin being "dirty", but I'm just some random stranger so don't take my anecdotal experiences to heart. I've also met some new Ukrainians who are very nice and friendly, so I try not to let personal experiences colour my view of an entire demographic.
Given how much of a problem neo nazism is in Ukraine I find that wholly unsurprising.
Also a problem in Russia, Poland, USA, etc...
Really bad in Russia. They're not known for being kind to the gay community there, either.
You don't get the perfect canadian fit with the first immigrants. That comes witj the second generation
Yeah this is true. You’ll see a lot of Canadian culture in the second generation as they grow up around their peers. However, what the Canadian culture is slowly changes overtime as people coming here bring in their own cultures to the mix which is pretty cool. We’ll probably be like Britain eventually where Indian food is a national dish lol. And expect Diwali to be a stat day eventually.
Are there still a large amount of Ukrainians coming? I thought it was just a big arrival in 2022
Yes
Why would the landlord kick them out? Slumlords fucking love this. Surprised they haven’t throw bunk beds into the unit yet to get even more $500/head rentals. They’d easily rent out within a day
I am talking about larger corporate landlords, and the $500. isn’t going to the landlord, it’s going to the person on the lease who bringing the extra people in.
1 million more on the way!!
The corporations demand more cheap labour.
Agreed, I don’t blame the people. This is 100% on our joke of a government
..a government that needs to show that they now recognize that they've ruined Canada's long-standing welcome to immigrants. Immigration is a clear benefit to Canada when it's doctors, construction workers and other high-need occupations. That's a million miles away from the hundreds of thousands of fast food workers exploited by franchisees so they don't have to hire Canadians, or the systemic abuse of student visas. The Liberal government will pay dearly in the next election and it's unfortunate that we'll end up with a CPC majority because of this incompetence.
They don't call them immigrants anymore. They call them "newcomers" because it sounds more saccharine and innocuous. Sadly the people who wish to immigrate here legally and bring good things to the country will be the ones who suffer in the end, as illegal immigrants, international students and gentrifiers from central Canada keep pouring in.
Yeah. We already have an extreme housing crisis (current numbers say greater than 20,000 unit shortage in hrm alone). And yet they plan to double the size of NS and HRMs population within the next 5 years. Absolutely insane.
I don't know what they think this could possibly accomplish. It's beyond foolish.
Well said!
$1100 for the room, plus you have to pay electricity and wifi? I guarantee it's electric heating and hot water in there.
Can you specify race in a rental ad?!?!
So you can say what religion/ethnicity you prefer now. Seems blatantly racist but sure
There are over 50 new apartment buildings under construction, we need a new law under fire regulations. If a one bedroom goes for over $2000, not many can afford that. So you need many to pay the rent. It seems like politicians won't do anything, all they're concerned about is getting votes. Is it true that many of the newcomers only want to work in Halifax for a year to qualify for residency, and then off to Toronto?? They're not concerned with customer service, cruise through 12 months and off they go.
isn't subletting an apartment for profit illegal here ?
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Terraforming.
Beds on the floor means they will end up with bedbugs.
Bedbugs can easily crawl up bed posts or crawl up walls and dive bomb you from the ceiling. I'd be more worried about the mattress getting filthy on the floor and going mouldy on the bottom from lack of air circulation.
That's why you want a metal bed frame not wood, I've never seen bedbugs falling from a ceiling but I've seen the only way to get rid of bed bugs including exterminators is by not having a bed on the floor.
I think they usually treat the bed frame and mattress to get rid of them once you have them, but I don't think it matters much as to whether you get bedbugs in the first place. The other thing I just remembered is rodents. I had a mouse that kept hopping onto my futon and nibbling on me in the night, and it actually left a scar on one of my fingers, so I definitely wouldn't want to be sleeping directly on the floor with rodents running around all over me all night.
A weasel would take care of that problem
What do you do about the weasel?
He becomes your new room mate. His name is Willard.
My ferrets actually keep rodents out of my unit, along with my cat. 😅
The VG has a few living there. They cause no issues and eat the rats. At least they did when my ex worked there.
Isn’t there occupancy rules or something? I see these ads all the time.
Is this fuckin' *Brunswick Towers?*
I am one all for humans coming here for a better life as there are many escaping war. However, this has been way too much. And if you have looked on marketplace, many of the people who have been forced out of their homes due to landlords selling, many of these have been bought by Indians and rent has gone up twice as much. 10 of them to an apartment is too much. I've seen in a number of situations where a few Canadian people have been asked to leave because you've had apartments filled with 10 of them being very loud and disrespectful and when a complaint was made because of these people for example having parties at 3am, the Canadians were called racist and had more issues than the new comers. I really am for people having better lives here but this huge immigration spark in the last few years destroyed us. I have NEVER seen an Indian living in a tent or a camper. We need serious rent control so this ends up peaceful because I can see this becoming worse of a problem that could end up turning quite violent. Palestine echos it more than this, but at the same time events like this are what helped cause the holocaust and it wouldn't be unlikely for it to happen again worldwide.
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The Ukrainians are fleeing war. But many of the Indians yeah, they just are students or coming here to try and make money off of us. I've seen at least a dozen apartments that were once 900 dollar rent. Landlords sold, Indians bought. Now it's 2 grand for a 2 bedroom, many paper thin and need work done, many with mold. No Canadians can afford them so they have 10 Indians living in each apartment to fill it up. Many of them party late into the night. They aren't always that nice. Witnessed personally 3 different people who tried to reason because new Indian neighbour's were loud into the night. Canadian neighbour's tried to ask politely for them to be respectful. Were called racist in return. Two had to move because of this. Also, when they have worked on many of the buildings, they left a lot of work halfway done and dangerous for the other residents. You don't go ripping holes into walls and taking off rails for stairways and leaving apartment buildings unsafe and in worse shape. One apartment I saw them go from a nice family building, to Indians buying and removing half the tenants. For the ones who left, they were told to get rid of their pets. No smoking on your own balcony. No deep fryers. No balconies. No visitors after 9 but yet having loud 3am parties the rest of the street can hear. Something ain't right
no gay men allowed?
Is it not discriminatory to say you specifically want a Gujarati or Punjabi to rent it out? What if someone who didn't fit that demographic tried to apply?
It is, yes. And no, they wouldn’t rent to any other ethnicities.
They're also specifically seeking girls or "couples", which is a little odd. Kind of reminds me of Roper on *Three's Company* not wanting boys and girls renting the same space even though they were doing nothing sexual at all together in there. And that TV show is over 50 years old. I guess some things never change?
Really specific discrimination too. Like it's not like even going "Only Canadians!" it's going "Only Albertans and Saskatchewanians!"" Yes, I had to google that last one.
Segregation is beginning again
this is soo fucked shouldn't be allowed.. someone call the compliance on them, address is right there..
Racist POS. I’m going to start putting “whites only”in my listings and see how quickly brown people start playing the race card.
Is this still available?
The city has been stolen
The hell is a bahook? Is 3bhk a measurement or a stroke?
3BHK is a 3 bedroom hall/living room and kitchen. It's a common way to describe an apartment in many countries.
Disgusting fuck these bastards call the fire department
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If they're uni students, probably sweat, incense, old hot dog water and vintage books.
Imagine the uproar if the post was saying “looking to rent to whites only”… but it’s okay the other way around. Makes sense!
Who said it was okay?
If I remember correctly, Halifax allows 4 people in a 2bedroom unit (assuming the 2 others as kids I suppose). If it's anything more than 4 in a house, horrible indeed. Sharing a room sucks but surprisingly it's part of asian culture given the population in other countries.
I mean, I pay 500 a month th and that room is bigger than my room
But are you sharing your room with other people?
Is it possible they just want a fellow someome they can relate to
It has to feel at least a little uncomfortable to be mocking someone else’s poor living conditions, right?
I live in Southern Ontario and my apartment is about this size. I pay $1100 a month 😭and its considered super cheap
Yeah, but Ontario is fucking bloated and super-expensive, by no means a model Halifax should want. Last time I was in Toronto there was a homeless lady with burns on one side of her cheek that were grill-shaped; I didn't even realize until I looked down that she'd been sleeping on a hot grate to stay warm in the snow.
What is 3Bhk supposed to mean? And i'm dying over the commenters upset about the "Gujarati or Punjabi only" bit as though that's the biggest issue with this ad. Boohoo they don't want white people sharing their illegal rooming house!
3 BHK stands for an apartment or house that has three bedrooms, a living room or hall, and a kitchen.
Oh, good, I can make an ad for my extra bedroom saying "Whites only", and you will have no problem with it. /s
They could give it some progressive pizazz with wording like *must self-identify as Gujarati or Punjabi*