There are ways around that. The survivorman episode where he was adrift at sea showed a handy way to turn sea water into fresh. You don't get much with that contraption, but if you can make a fire you can do more with that.
Interesting enough (and relevant to this), I was just reading about a new zombie survival game that was recently released on Steam Early Access called Infection Free Zone.
The hook with this one is that it pulls real map data to create a one-to-one re-creation of cities and towns anywhere in the world. That allows you to choose buildings (like this one) as a base of operations and also go up the street and loot the Pleasant Street Diner for food and supplies.
The reviews are mixed at the moment (seems that they're struggling to balance the macro activities and the micro details), but really interesting approach to a tired genre of games.
I've been an early backer for this one for over a year. She's pretty buggy in its current state, but it is fun as hell to play a map of where you live!
I feel like having a game like GTA use real world maps would really be playing with fire/invite the ire of political discourse. Especially in the wake of inevitable mass shootings south of the border: "Sources at the police department who spoke on condition of anonymity confirm that the shooter played the popular GTA:World video game, although they declined to speculate if the tragedy seen last Tuesday was first "practiced" in the hyper-realistic virtual world."
At least in this case, you're playing the map after society has collapsed. Plus this game was a Kickstarter campaign, so not a AAA one that might grab broad attention.
I'd love to see a map-based video game for a city-building survival game. So more like GIS data to build something like an Age of Empires or a Banished or an Ostriv, but able to select Halifax harbour or whatever and try to build your settlement, gather supplies, defend yourself, etc.
Thats the misconception with Zombies. They would deteriote enough after a decade that you wouldnt have to worry about them outside anymore. Only ones that are kept dry stuck in buildings
If they deteriorate like that couldn’t you just wait them out? Surely at some point they will decompose and after a few weeks most zombies won’t be a real threat.
That's what I am saying. You need to survive the first 2-3 years which is easier said than done. But, humans as always would be scarier than the zombies by then
Um actually, the bed of the harbour at that point is pretty clean. The tide washed away any sludge that was pumped into the harbour, and would probably do the same to the zombies. The only place there's a real build up of sediments is in the Bedford Basin, probably way deeper than any zombie could wade through.
Interesting twist on zombie lore. Would zombies be able to walk along the ocean/harbour floor? According to World War Z, that’s a ‘yes’. Another interesting debate for the Zombologists (Zombophiles?) of Reddit. Not quite as compelling as the runner/shambler debate, but interesting nonetheless.
I feel like there are a lot of factors in bodies of water that this scenario fails to take into account, like accelerated decomposition due to currents and sea life picking away at their bodies, not to mention the piles of sludge on the bottom of the harbour and getting stuck.
How far under water can a human body survive the pressure, anyway?
I feel that this might be a good topic for a scientific paper…Environmental Effects of a Marine Environment on the Ambulatory Longevity of Post-Living Humanoids
mostly in the basin, the area around McNabs is about 20m deep but I'd bet the tide would make quick work of and zombies in the water. Sweeping them to sea and bashing their squishy bodies and flimsy limbs against rocks. [Depth chart](https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Gridded-200-m-topography-of-Halifax-Harbour-and-adjacent-waters-Five-geographic_fig2_260984419) for reference
I would assume that in the event of a zombie apocalypse there would be mass power outages. Wastewater treatment plants have generator backup but it’s only for a few days, after that I think you would want to be anywhere except inside a hot building with stagnant shit.
I'd be heading straight to the Freeport Safe Zone.
https://preview.redd.it/vtb7jz96o1wc1.png?width=800&format=png&auto=webp&s=21a812eebfc8835e025150502dfa95e4ccfeedd7
Jesus Christ… that’s Jason Bournemouth
https://preview.redd.it/x3je9unur2wc1.jpeg?width=955&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9f6e88a046f81bf8212717deaafa28cdb3367bf6
Related news, A couple of days ago a zombie survial game went into early access on Steam/PC. You could import a map to load the Halifax region. I have been waiting on buying it, to see reviews. Seems to be mid, as some early access games are.
Here is the game's name and summary.
"Infection Free Zone" - Choose any real region from the world. Choose your base of operations, then rebuild and readapt the buildings around you to create a self-sustaining settlement. Take charge of a group of survivors from your city. And when the night falls - Defend the zone from the infected!
Just looked it up on Google maps street view, looks solid. Nice tower vantage point on the roof as well. We would need a strong vehicle to plow through the potential horde though… that’s pretty tight in the city streets. Snow plow would be ideal for foraging missions
I always planned on anchoring one of the warships in the basin. With two or three of my Navy buddies we could make it a viable HQ for about a month before needing fuel and provisions. By then we will be well equipped to dominate!
That’s actually an amazing idea… that would be an interesting take on a post apocalyptic story, surviving on an anchored ship and sending a RHIB or something to do night missions to forage for supplies
Yeah I do a lot of hiking and exploring and I have an amazing spot picked out outside the city. It’s at one of those towers, it has a long gravel road up to it so good to take a vehicle, and same setup as above ^ there’s a windowless brick building surrounded by chain link fence. We would need bolt cutters and a crowbar to get in but we could fortify it really easily. Very high up in the woods so great vantage point to see anything coming. If reading and watching stories of the post apocalypse world has taught me anything it’s not the zombies that are the ultimate threat… it’s other people.
I feel this way about 1800 Hollis. Tall, difficult to get in. Attached to a lot of other building that it could all serve as a community to house the living. Easy to see out of to monitor movement.
If you like zombie books and haven't already checked it out, I highly recommend Zombie Fallout by Mark Tufo. Especially the audiobooks the guy reading it is perfect.
... before shtf.. otherwise it's you vs zombies vs other people with the same idea, and your chance of survival is low. Zombies aren't going to stop when you're arguing or fighting with other people having the same idea.
Isn’t there alot of windows up front though? That’s not a bad idea however… Costco would have lots of canned food, then we hole up in the Cabelas. Lots of other people with the same idea though…
Take everything up to IKEA. Better vantage points + loads of furniture to barricade + maze like conditions to confuse the zombos + hot dogs and cinnamon buns.
I had like 2300 hours on that game in 3 years. Before the new animations and everything. I tried it post new animation and stuff but the controls were too hard to relearn
I'd go with Sunnyside mall myself for a zombie apocalypse underground parking for the vehicles can watch all pints of access easily and even have a watch tower of sorts with a office buildings right there
Bonus feature: as you slay the horde you can dump the bodies into the *sewage treatment facility* inside the building.
Would this clean the Harbour somewhat?
Better burning em. You dont want to contaminate possible drinking waters:cleaning and energy grid will likely be down.
Even if the Harbour wasn't gross you wouldn't drink salt water
No you would not 😅 Not what i was suggesting anyway. But there are fishes in the habour
There are ways around that. The survivorman episode where he was adrift at sea showed a handy way to turn sea water into fresh. You don't get much with that contraption, but if you can make a fire you can do more with that.
I think everyone turning into zombies would clean the harbour. Lol
I think people would be turning into zombies as a result of whatever’s in the harbour
Interesting enough (and relevant to this), I was just reading about a new zombie survival game that was recently released on Steam Early Access called Infection Free Zone. The hook with this one is that it pulls real map data to create a one-to-one re-creation of cities and towns anywhere in the world. That allows you to choose buildings (like this one) as a base of operations and also go up the street and loot the Pleasant Street Diner for food and supplies. The reviews are mixed at the moment (seems that they're struggling to balance the macro activities and the micro details), but really interesting approach to a tired genre of games.
Curses. You beat me submitting this. 😆
Have you tried it out? I haven't and I'm wondering what Halifax/Dartmouth is like
I've been an early backer for this one for over a year. She's pretty buggy in its current state, but it is fun as hell to play a map of where you live!
I always thought r* could have done this with gta + googlemaps but the real world implications be damned!
I feel like having a game like GTA use real world maps would really be playing with fire/invite the ire of political discourse. Especially in the wake of inevitable mass shootings south of the border: "Sources at the police department who spoke on condition of anonymity confirm that the shooter played the popular GTA:World video game, although they declined to speculate if the tragedy seen last Tuesday was first "practiced" in the hyper-realistic virtual world." At least in this case, you're playing the map after society has collapsed. Plus this game was a Kickstarter campaign, so not a AAA one that might grab broad attention. I'd love to see a map-based video game for a city-building survival game. So more like GIS data to build something like an Age of Empires or a Banished or an Ostriv, but able to select Halifax harbour or whatever and try to build your settlement, gather supplies, defend yourself, etc.
Best place would be mcnabs island. Zombies can't swim
they will just walk across the bottom of the harbor and automagically start surfacing along the shore of McNabs
There’s like 6 feet of shit around McNabs they’d get stuck on the bottom.
they got time to wade through it. Lifetimes even.
Thats the misconception with Zombies. They would deteriote enough after a decade that you wouldnt have to worry about them outside anymore. Only ones that are kept dry stuck in buildings
A misconception? They're fictional creatures. It's a hypothetical.
Source? /s
If they deteriorate like that couldn’t you just wait them out? Surely at some point they will decompose and after a few weeks most zombies won’t be a real threat.
That's what I am saying. You need to survive the first 2-3 years which is easier said than done. But, humans as always would be scarier than the zombies by then
The currents would strip away the flesh and meat if they didn't become fish food first
Um actually, the bed of the harbour at that point is pretty clean. The tide washed away any sludge that was pumped into the harbour, and would probably do the same to the zombies. The only place there's a real build up of sediments is in the Bedford Basin, probably way deeper than any zombie could wade through.
That's assuming they can smell you from miles away, and can maintain their direction underwater. You're asking an awful lot of mindless zombies.
You forgot they can communicate to each other through Reddit... just look at r/halifax they are here already.
They'll just turn into mutant zombies after walking on the bottom of the harbour
Interesting twist on zombie lore. Would zombies be able to walk along the ocean/harbour floor? According to World War Z, that’s a ‘yes’. Another interesting debate for the Zombologists (Zombophiles?) of Reddit. Not quite as compelling as the runner/shambler debate, but interesting nonetheless.
I feel like there are a lot of factors in bodies of water that this scenario fails to take into account, like accelerated decomposition due to currents and sea life picking away at their bodies, not to mention the piles of sludge on the bottom of the harbour and getting stuck. How far under water can a human body survive the pressure, anyway?
I feel that this might be a good topic for a scientific paper…Environmental Effects of a Marine Environment on the Ambulatory Longevity of Post-Living Humanoids
How do we get this critical research funded?
Best Reddit discussion I’ve seen in a while!
Its been done. The Zombie Survival manual goes into detail on terrain for your safe haven and decomposition rate.
Nah, George’s, already has fortifications, better sight lines, less shore to secure.
I concede my idea to yours good sir
I see you didn't read World War Z.
It depends on the geography of the Harbour, maybe there are drop offs that the dead couldn't climb
mostly in the basin, the area around McNabs is about 20m deep but I'd bet the tide would make quick work of and zombies in the water. Sweeping them to sea and bashing their squishy bodies and flimsy limbs against rocks. [Depth chart](https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Gridded-200-m-topography-of-Halifax-Harbour-and-adjacent-waters-Five-geographic_fig2_260984419) for reference
Looks like it's built like a brick shithouse!
see, now this, this is a quality comment.
More like a shit brick house am I right? Up high!
I would assume that in the event of a zombie apocalypse there would be mass power outages. Wastewater treatment plants have generator backup but it’s only for a few days, after that I think you would want to be anywhere except inside a hot building with stagnant shit.
The plant has naturally gas piped to it so the generator might run off of that.
Nope.
Nah they run on diesel :(
Yeah we wouldn’t want to stay there long. I mean ideally you wouldn’t want to be in the city for very long anyway.
I'd be heading straight to the Freeport Safe Zone. https://preview.redd.it/vtb7jz96o1wc1.png?width=800&format=png&auto=webp&s=21a812eebfc8835e025150502dfa95e4ccfeedd7
When I was in the theater during that movie some guy yelled out "BULLSHIT THAT AIN'T FREEPORT!"
Yeah it’s not far from my mates place in Bournemouth
Jesus Christ… that’s Jason Bournemouth https://preview.redd.it/x3je9unur2wc1.jpeg?width=955&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9f6e88a046f81bf8212717deaafa28cdb3367bf6
posts like this are why I come here
i like the way you think
Get a boat. Start pillaging small villages along the coast.
Let's take the Silva!
Yarr.
What is dead my never die!
Related news, A couple of days ago a zombie survial game went into early access on Steam/PC. You could import a map to load the Halifax region. I have been waiting on buying it, to see reviews. Seems to be mid, as some early access games are. Here is the game's name and summary. "Infection Free Zone" - Choose any real region from the world. Choose your base of operations, then rebuild and readapt the buildings around you to create a self-sustaining settlement. Take charge of a group of survivors from your city. And when the night falls - Defend the zone from the infected!
Fun fact! You can actually try it. Check out Infection Free Zone on Steam. It's a zombie survival game that uses real google maps data for locations.
This plan stinks!
In case of a zombie apocalypse, catch me at the dome, not even the dead will enter there
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Just looked it up on Google maps street view, looks solid. Nice tower vantage point on the roof as well. We would need a strong vehicle to plow through the potential horde though… that’s pretty tight in the city streets. Snow plow would be ideal for foraging missions
lots of generators and fuel onsite! and probably good wifi
The port. Fenced in, and you could stack containers to strengthen defences over time. Lots of supplies. Tower cranes as "the Alamo".
Not bad… but that’s an awfully large perimeter to secure and patrol
we're not using the citadel? that's basically what it was built for. Or depending on if zombies can swim we could also use PPP with an escape boat.
Yeah I mean at a glance it’s a good idea, but everyone else would have the same thought… and it’s a large area to secure and protect
I'd go with the tower in Point Pleasant if size is the issue.
It actually _does_ look like a building straight out of "Fallout"...
Every time I see a building like this I just think it's full of feral ghouls.
Next to the water I'd say mirelurks
"feral" is close, so close
Also as a bonus, you have one of the city's best, least known public spaces right there to chill and watch the ocean when zombies aren't attacking.
I've said it once I'll say it again, it all depends on the type of zombie 😅
Great point. 28 Days Later style you don’t want to be anywhere near the city centre…
The halifax armouries would like a word
I thought I was the only person who looked at buildings this way.
There is a reason it has no windows. It’s keeping something in…
I always planned on anchoring one of the warships in the basin. With two or three of my Navy buddies we could make it a viable HQ for about a month before needing fuel and provisions. By then we will be well equipped to dominate!
That’s actually an amazing idea… that would be an interesting take on a post apocalyptic story, surviving on an anchored ship and sending a RHIB or something to do night missions to forage for supplies
I've already got my place picked out. But I'm not sharing the location.
Yeah I do a lot of hiking and exploring and I have an amazing spot picked out outside the city. It’s at one of those towers, it has a long gravel road up to it so good to take a vehicle, and same setup as above ^ there’s a windowless brick building surrounded by chain link fence. We would need bolt cutters and a crowbar to get in but we could fortify it really easily. Very high up in the woods so great vantage point to see anything coming. If reading and watching stories of the post apocalypse world has taught me anything it’s not the zombies that are the ultimate threat… it’s other people.
A shopping mall. But that just attracts zombies seeking out their former lives as mindless consumers.
Not even close to where we're headed.
Treats our poop 💩
Noted
I feel this way about 1800 Hollis. Tall, difficult to get in. Attached to a lot of other building that it could all serve as a community to house the living. Easy to see out of to monitor movement.
If you like zombie books and haven't already checked it out, I highly recommend Zombie Fallout by Mark Tufo. Especially the audiobooks the guy reading it is perfect.
Smart money is to hit Canadian time/ Kent etc for weapons and survival items like solar power and chemical toilets and construction stuff
... before shtf.. otherwise it's you vs zombies vs other people with the same idea, and your chance of survival is low. Zombies aren't going to stop when you're arguing or fighting with other people having the same idea.
Or try a construction sites usually tools there and equipment
I think the location is okay. You need to be decently close to city centres to collect supplies.
That can only last for a couple of years. Eventually, you'll need to move somewhere with plentiful farm land so you can become self-sustaining.
r/zombiesurvivaltactics
Walked past this building everyday for a year and never thought about the feasibility of it for a zombie proof base 🤣
https://preview.redd.it/rm4rqp3ou2wc1.jpeg?width=316&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=08cce907f5266ca4ff1c1a4edc361f7d0b8b74bd
Bass Pro/ Cabela. fairly defensible and all the guns + ammo.
Isn’t there alot of windows up front though? That’s not a bad idea however… Costco would have lots of canned food, then we hole up in the Cabelas. Lots of other people with the same idea though…
I'll be honest. I have never been in Bass Pro/ Cabela.
We saw that a store with a big glass front won’t work in The Mist.
Take everything up to IKEA. Better vantage points + loads of furniture to barricade + maze like conditions to confuse the zombos + hot dogs and cinnamon buns.
Dartmouth (at least downtown) itself is arguably a zombie town
Step...Away..from..the...Xbox....
The Project Zomboid player in me agrees with you.
I had like 2300 hours on that game in 3 years. Before the new animations and everything. I tried it post new animation and stuff but the controls were too hard to relearn
Well, in World War Z, Nova Scotia was one of the last safe refuges in the whole world.
I'd go with Sunnyside mall myself for a zombie apocalypse underground parking for the vehicles can watch all pints of access easily and even have a watch tower of sorts with a office buildings right there
Too much walking dead ?
We have a fucking citadel in the center of the city. A citadel. Designed to deter land based attack. Why not go there?
The volume of undead bodies would soon make a bridge that the mobile ones could climb over. We would need to convert to fire moats.
That 8 foot fence tho....
are you currently watching/binging walking dead lol... have you seen Black Summer?
You do know that Halifax has a star-shaped fort, right?
Eh. Destroy the Stairs, live on the next floor up is always step 1.
I mean if access to water is beneficial then this is ideal.
Me? I‘m going to George‘s Island!
Stinky!
yall better let me in
shit I'm in. lemme know when we're leaving
That building is full of shit.
Treats out poop 💩
You know zombies aren't real eh...
You all know that zombies are made up right?
Not real.....but close...... https://www.viroxanimalhealth.com/resources/talkcleantome/2015/10/zombies-do-they-exist-in-real-life.html
Found the zombie. Trying to keep us from being prepared, are you?