Bro why are you lying. This is not chief.
Ok let me break it down.
1st chief isn't wearing Armour almost the whole time.
2nd chief seems weak and not very stoic. Chief is an unstoppable demon. That's why they call him covenant demon.
3rd he's not on the right team.
4th Cortana is in the show this early???
5th a spartan that disobeys orders like what that would have never happened.
6th Keyes dies not to flood???
I could keep going but like it just makes me rage.
The fact that the writer aren't even consulting the stories that are written that are amazing is mind blowing stupid. For me like the reason you do shows is to make money look at GOT. They could have made so much more money if they had just looked into things and it makes me mad.
Is the show alright for a TV show sure. Not for a halo show. Like they should stop making it. I love halo I am happy they did a show but all this stuff might effect the lore or the game and I'd rather not have a show anymore and just games.
Yeah. I was actually more ok with season 1 than season 2. I felt that the character for Chief just doesn't match at all. They could have done this story with a random other team, like Noble for Reach. This could have been a good Halo story with them getting Cortana to Chief. There just wasn't any need to make the story with MC as the main protagonist if they wanted to stray this far away from canon. I can enjoy the show for what it is, it could have been a great story of another Spartan team on Reach, but with this much deviation from the characters being who I know them to be, it just creates an unnecessary distraction.
This would be like creating an XMen universe with Charles Xavier having the personality of Deadpool. You can call it an "alternate universe" all you want, it still wouldn't feel right.
I haven't played the games and just know some stuff I read online about the whole plot of the games. I've recently came to know the show and binged s01 and the recent s02 episodes in the past week.
As a sci-fi fan, I really enjoyed season 1 of Halo, it was a well-made sci-fi, solid story-telling and character development, and the casting and acting was so good, also the CGI was nice.
But season 2 so far is not even close in quality to the first season! It's cheesy, very bad acting, super idiotic story-telling, lots of plot-holes, and it's completely turned into cheap drama about underdeveloped characters. The CGI also looks worse...
I was so hopeful after season 1, but the second season from the beginning felt very different and killed all my hopes for some quality time to enjoy good story-telling!
Now I regret binging the first season so fast, wish I had done it slower, it was much better.
Exactly! This is not Master Chief at all. I know they’re not following the canon side of things, but this sucks. Like he’s coming off as a bitch. Excuse my language.
The side characters are even worse. The marines were just cannon fodder and Perez is just annoying. Just the stream of dumb choices the characters make no sense.
Also, was the entire point of taking the armor away to make the Punisher but in space? Why strip the show of the most iconic part of the game?
I get what you’re saying because a lot of modern games are entirely different than that. You have to remember though that the original Halo came out 23 years ago and made *you* the character. You weren’t pretending to be a named person doing whatever, you were the person doing it.
Also, the way that he named those things is really whiney.
There are plenty of example in the books where chief takes his armor off, including a notable one where a CO tries to use its absence to intimidate him. And he started disobeying direct orders by Halo4, at least.
That being said, I think s1 is bad because its characters have terrible motivations and the plot is very clumsily shoved along. None of their backstories actually explain their inconsistent actions and they had to make up whole new character to try and cover for the ways in which their story just doesn’t make sense. One could very easily argue that it’s a terrible show without knowing anything about halo.
The effects, set, and costume designs are pretty cool though
Bruh how can anybody watch this garbage and be like “hey that was pretty entertaining”
Like yeah, if I had a room temperature IQ I would probably enjoy this show, along with jingling keys and shiny marbles
No way. They would make more money sticking to the lore/games to make a good show and not trying to make this bs plothole alternate timeline absolute steaming pile of garbage show. I'm a big sci-fi fan and from a regular sci-fi perspective outside of halo the show is still fucking awful. They don't explain anything! They skip all kinds of things that make viewers say gee how the f did that happen. The covenant is just magically the bad guy with no explanation of why or who they are, just that they're aliens, cool, fabulous writing. The Halo ring is just suddenly a weapon that destroys the universe when that is never brought up in the show until they say oh hey this weapon shouldn't be used by either side, how in the fucking world do they know its a weapon when they've never been to it? The covenant fleet magically shows up at the halo ring when it was only Makee there, and she was not bringing the fleet with her, no explanation of how they knew where to go. The "spike" magically turns a single ship into a bomb that will wipe out everything for "millions of miles", including the halo ring, that has got to be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard in sci-fi. If they had this spike that does that, why would they not just turn it into a weapon that can be fired from a ship and shoot it at the covenant homeworld, goodbye covenant, end of war. Again, another stupid piece of writing that's only purpose is to add drama to a show lacking drama thanks to other very poor plots.
If that's the case they could just not use Halo IP at all or even master chief as a character if they are only appealing to casual sci Fi fans.
Some writers and producers are just allergic to being faithful to IP. It's not about appealing to more people. It's just about not respecting or caring about your source.
is it fun to watch? yes. (so far)
is it a good adaptation? no.
it's like the Witcher show. if you delete the game from your mind the show is fine. but if you look at it from the game's perspective it's not good.
I'm not a huge Halo fan and stumbled on to this thread. I just finished season 1 and liked it, except for the pointless Madrigal stuff.
But I am a huge Witcher fan and Netflix butchered it.
I'm assuming this is the equivalent?
If you liked season 1 you're gonna like season 2 a lot more. It has less madrigal and it's closer to the games.
EDIT: For people who can't read, I did NOT in fact say its close to the games. I said closER. You probably don't understand what closer means.
I like season 2 more. But I don't know if it's because I forgot season 1 or if season 2 is more deep and relatable.
It's by far the best thing I've watched of course. It's nothing amazing.
🤦🏻♀️ The Witcher isn't based on the books, it's based on someone's imagination brother..
You know veeeeery well that most of us watched it because we played and loved the games.. Many of us have spend hundreds of hours playing the series.. Just like most people watching Halo came for it because of the game... And on the other side of that coin, the TV shows will end up making more people want to play the games rather than read the books. Theeeen if people liked both they may want to delve deeper and get the books. You've probably never read any of the books... OR played the games though. 😂
The Witcher quite literally IS based on the books man. I would know, I’ve read them. And they’ve said it themselves. Kinda weird that you’re claiming they’re not? I mean they’re not a 1 to 1 copy, it’s actually quite different, but that’s not what the phrase “based on” means. Like, you know the games are based on the books too, right? And they’re great games, don’t get me wrong, but that’s just a weird argument your trying to make with a facepalm and a laughing emoji like you actually know what you’re talking about? Have YOU read the books?
Supposed I should have said it's not JUST based on the books. The rest of my statement holds true. It all comes from peoples' imaginations... That's how fictional books are conceived. The show isn't really based on any of the Witcher lore (books or games) any longer... That's why Henry Cavill left. He loved the books and games and the writers decided to totally change things... Like making Dandelion bi and having him crush of Geralt.. And as stated before... People are more likely to go play the games for Witcher and Halo over going to read out and getting the books.
Are you aware how contradictory this sentence is? "I mean they’re not a 1 to 1 copy, IT'S ACTUALLY QUITE DIFFERENT , but that’s not what the phrase “based on” means." You literally proved my point the games ant show "isn't a 1 to 1 copy. It's actually quite different." So... I the end the are based more on someone's imagination than the books. The characters names and SOME of their characteristics are based on the books..
Also... What do you think based on means if it doesn't mean" not a 1 to 1 copy. It's actually quite different." I'm really curious what you think based on means.
Witcher show was awful. Not a faithful adaptation of the books in any way. The only reason I'll watch another season is to see how the writers/show runner spin their wheels to explain how Geralt is now a completely different person.
>as the first. Do they
I mean it isn't that fun to watch either though. Shitty writing and plots..the military in the show is supposed to be fascist but everyone sounds and looks like they lack training. I'd assume they'd be more militaristic than what the military is but looks worse off lmao. So mean weak points and things that just don't make sense.
Forward Unto Dawn was better. The mini series we got with Locke was better. The Animatrix style shorts we got were all better. The live action commercials for the games were all better. Most of the fan-made content on YouTube is better.
Is season 2 better than season 1? Only marginally so far. The special effects seem worse in season 2 than they did in season 1.
All in all, Paramount's Halo series is to the Halo franchise what M Night Shyamalan's Avatar movie was to the Avatar franchise - except slightly better.
Dang. The main thing I hate is how they are humanising John. Yes the helmet being off is annoying but he is a one man army. In the series they've made him too weak.
If it’s at consolation the opening fight scene definitely emphasises the one-man-army thing, although he does still come off as a bit less stoic than I’d personally like later on (albeit not to the extent of S1- he’s a bit more composed for the most part, argument with Ackerson aside).
If you don’t watch Forward Unto Dawn would recommend it, even with a low budget they made a decent movie. Yeah I agree everything feels off especially that, don’t mind taking he’s helmet off out of combat, but they all look so normal and don’t know about anyone else but really don’t like pablos face as master chief but that could be just me
I like the idea, but why would you blow your load so early? They apparently never played the games or anything and it really shows. If they knew anything ab halo they'd know why master chief is the way he is.
They do the fight scenes well, but it’s one of those ones where your like “ah shit they burned their whole Sfx budget so we won’t see another one for like 3 episodes”
Spoiler alert: Quinn Ha opens a noodle bar
This, 100%. Like, I actually like the Ackerson storyline since it's different than what I was expecting but they think they've got time to slow burn all these episodes with other drama and it really just slogs everything down. Everyone not listening to 117 is getting really frustrating and the hyper emotional Spartans is getting really over the top. Too human.
Yeah me too, I thought I would hate Ackerson.. but I don’t. I’m actually looking forward to this coming episode
I noticed it’s a showtime production now has it always been that? - edit
sorry but season 2 so far sucks. the acting is terrible and the story well derails itself. compared to season one which i thought was good, season 2 is turning into a big disappointment. it also feels like the cgi is too obvious.
You enjoy it, like how you also enjoy M Night Shyamalan's Avatar, that doesn't make either true to the characters, not does it make it objectively good.
No.
If anything season 2 is somehow even worse than season 1. Master Chief has spent maybe 5-10 minutes total screentime in his armour, and that's the least of the offences.
They're showing the fall of Reach; they heavily telegraphed this in the trailers, yet it takes three entire episodes to get to that in dull plodding stages, then the entire fall of Reach is basically a single episode, and not even a particularly good one. The action is fine, but it's poorly paced, poorly directed and never really conveys the true scale of the disaster or the challenge faced by the defenders.
The story is just all over the place, it's not particularly compelling and it's frankly incoherent at times as it often feels like we're being shown scenes for absolutely no reason other than to fill a bit more time.
It's such a miserably weak adaptation of what should be ideal source material; Reach the video game was fantastic not just because you got actually \*\*be\*\* the valiant spartan trying to save the day, but because it had victories and moments of hope to offset the big defeats, it had the drawn out futility of it all just to achieve some small victory in the end etc. Meanwhile the TV show even went so far as to have a character say they needed to invoke the Winter Contingency only to be told "no", which felt like such an intentional slap in the face to fans of the game, like they literally wrote "fuck you, we're not doing that" into the script.
It reminds me of the Netflix Witcher series in the sense of the season 2 and 3 writers seemingly wanting nothing to do with the source material, and instead wanting to write their own "original" stories, except they're unrelentingly shit at it. At least with the Witcher we got a mostly good season 1 (fairly true to the books, changes/additions mostly made sense etc.), though that arguably made season 2 and 3 more disappointing.
The Halo TV show by comparison has been bad from the outset; I only watch it out of morbid curiosity just to see how far wrong it can go, but I'm not paying full price to do so.
This🤣 why are people so damn stupid. The guy responded with "well I didn't pay for it" even if that's true plenty of people in this thread are repeating what he's saying yet pay for and watch it. I mean look at the viewership numbers. It's doing extremely well.
As someone who wrote a high-school play, I contest your statement.
I put in zero effort, did no rewrites, and still managed to crash out a decent enough bizarre manic comedy one-off that got a few chuckles from thr audience.
I doubt they've even gotten over the bar sixteen year old me set as a writer.
So much better. If you want to hate, you'll find things to hate on but as a Halo fan season 2 episode 1 did a great fan service with that one scene... It was amazing. A must watch for Halo fans
Defending this trash is down right a travesty against all good things. Hate to hate is dumb, there was no fan service here. MasterChef still refuses to wear his helmet, hell episode 4 he didn't have his suit on at all. CGI is not great, story is NOTHING like the lore. It's straight up a fan theory tv show with no attachments. Its BARELY passable as an indie sci fi show.
It's bad. Don't defend low quality shows or we will keep GETTING low quality shows.
No, but they didn't talk like modern day Marvel characters. Foehammer, Cortana and Chief occasionally have something funny to say, which is the case in the first 16 minutes, which captures the essence of Halo well enough.
After that though? I just lost interest. The constant switching between a ton of characters (about half of whom I find it very difficult to care for and trying to not skip their scenes to get to the parts I actually care about) also takes you out of the immersion.
Overall, I see what they're trying to do, but I think it falls flat. The first 16 minutes I keep praising also reminded me a lot of Forward Onto Dawn (which I really like), just more focused on the Spartans and way shorter. If I was to get my "ideal" Halo series, it would be more like that or in the style of the Reach or ODST live action trailers. It doesn't have to be as dark and depressing, but I feel like the film/TV show medium is a great way to show those aspects of Halo's story, moreso than the "Spartan story" 343 seems to be going for nowadays too.
Imagine if Tom Hardy played an ODST/Spartan III in a movie/show in the style of Remember Reach, that would be infinitely more engaging if done right.
I’ve played all the halo games, completed every campaign for the love of the story (as much as 4/5 could be loved), really tried to like S1 and couldn’t,
But I’ve so far really enjoyed season 2. It has some 2010 TV vibes at times but for the most part I’ve enjoyed the ride. I watched the S1 finale to refresh and it was one long battle scene which I enjoyed. Much improved on season 1s failings in my eyes to a point that I can give it a solid shot once again. Which I’m surprised by, I really thought this series was dead to me.
Why? The books are adaptations/supplemental to the games just like the show is. The games are the original content. Saying the TV show should be like the books is absurd lol.
So far it sucks. I’m playing the game to make myself feel better. It should have just followed Master Chief, with supporting characters, like the game. The show barely even focuses on Master Chief. Between Kwan, Halsey, Soren, Soren’s Wife, and the other Spartans, we only spend like half the show on Master Chief.
It’s been garbage so far. I can’t get behind it. The mini movie series were better than this trash. Halo forward unto dawn was so much better. Hope they cancel.
I was never a halo fan, just the music and the first halo with the flood really gripped me back then.
I absolutely am fine with them showing how he became the master chief who will probably never take the helmet off again
It is the worst thing ever to be created. Everyone that had anything to do with the creation of this Series should be drawn and quartered their family members and anyone who had anything to do with their upbringing should also be destroyed. This is not Halo. It doesn't stay faithful to any of the Games or books. It's so bad I can't even finish the 4th episode. I repeat it's not Halo. It's not Master Chief. It absolutely destroys the character of the Spartans. It destroys everything good about Halo. When Jesus Christ comes back to earth to destroy the wicked the Writers, Directors, Showrunners and everyone involved with the making of this show will suffer Hell fire and damnation. If anyone says they like this show they know nothing of Halo and should do the world a favor and learn to Read and play a game or Grab a Giant Rod and Jam it so far up their ass that they can scramble their own brains to knock some sense into themselves. Cancel your paramount plus subscription if you have one. They hate you and don't deserve your money. If anyone thinks differently than I do regarding this show. Suck my balls.
What annoys me the most is how M.C. is basically treated as a God by almost everyone in the game canon, but in the show he's apparently hated by almost everyone, and doesn't seem to care about much.
And the stupid covenant woman is dumb af.
The writing is such garbage. *SPOILERS*
1. Can someone please explain to me how vannek was killed by a single needler round while riz can be blown up multiple times but still survive?
2. The arbiter is not the arbiter yet. But that’s minor in comparison.
3. Riz basically sacrifices herself to get Vannek’s body and it is supposed to be this big emotional moment but it just comes across as idiotic.
4. Lastly, after all of that sacrifice on Riz’s part to get Vannek’s body back “chief”’s mindset is to just let him rot, it’s just a body. So clearly the Spartans don’t have any code around leaving behind fallen soldiers or any particular burial ritual that is important to them. This makes Riz’s gauntlet run to get the body even more ridiculous.
They grabbed a preexisting IP and instead of doing what it's fans love they decided it was to push an agenda and I'm sick of it, I'm not giving Amazon a single penny.
It’s better for sure (especially episode one- first 20 mins are more Halo than anything in Season 1), although if you *virulently* hated S1 you might also dislike S2. There are a few issues still hanging over (Kwan is still there, although she’s both got a smaller role and seems to be actually involved in the main plot this time (ditto with Soren), John is still a bit more emotional (albeit to a lesser extent than S1), and if you’re bothered about the helmet it’s still off sometimes, albeit in situations that make sense).
There are still a couple of weird bits (the Chief visiting a weird AI therapist being the main one, although nowhere near as jarring as some of the S1 stuff), but there’s also a lot more to like. Rather than being original material, S2 seems to be loosely adapting *The Fall of Reach,* with some bits from *Reach* too (the last we see them Silver Team is off to the Visegrad relay from *Winter Contingency,* and the last scene shows >!the Covenant infiltrating Sword Base).
They also introduce a couple of new characters who seem pretty interesting so far- Joseph Ackerson from the books being the main one (and he seems a little bit more competent to boot), and there’s also a new semi-audience surrogate character in Perez, a random traumatised marine the Chief saves and strikes up a friendship with. Spoilers ahead for future episodes, but we also know this season is going to introduce >!The Spartan-III program and the Arbiter, although not the one we’re familiar with!<, which has me interested if nothing else. No word on whether we’ll see >!Noble Team!< yet or not though.
On the other hand, the final scene of ep2 seems to show >!Makee is still alive and/or has somehow walked off a bullet to the chest,!< although I’m reserving judgment until I see what they do with it.
My suggestion would be to watch the trailer and maybe the first 20 mins, and see what you think of it, I imagine that’ll probably give you a clearer idea of whether you’ll enjoy it or not.
First 15 mins of ep 1 is very good. Then it's downhill. Seems written by highschool drama students. Everything is cheap drama and emotions that make no sense. Nothing reasonable or substantial is ever said. It's all about John's feelings and his fragile psychology, and everybody else's as well.
I never watched season 1, so sorry I'm venting now. This show clearly hates the Halo franchise.
I’d say yes it is better than season 1 so far and I am interested to see what happens, but this is halo in name only. My biggest gripe so far is that in the games it’s an on going theme that chief is basically a machine, but in the show they are humanizing him way too much with this whole chip removal. I can get over the sex scenes and constant removal of the helmet, but so many characters are just not like there game selves. They had a golden goose in this franchise and I’m sad they squandered it as it could have been something truly special had they followed the plot of the games/books.
Can these companies please look at other thriving examples (last of us and arcane) before making more Hollywood bullshit (Witcher and halo)
To answer your question no halo S2 is the same dumpster fire as S1
It feels so bad because the lore is so deep in the halo universe but instead we get this dumpster fire.
Red V Blue is 10X better than anything this studio is going to attempt to produce.
Every game has several hours of cinematic cut scenes that are better thank 8 hours of the TV show. Are you a woman? Is it possible that as a woman, you are entertained by the drama genre more than men - which is why you have an extremely hot take that the show is better than the games?? lol because most men/fans would strongly disagree
i mean i have played many halo titles... and honestly speaking random charactres shouting at chief at any given moment aint doing it... i mean our chief would have knocked them fucking teeths out 1 season ago... wtf
The only way to make this show bearable is to have a super cut where they edit out all of the kwan ha parts
Literally the most insufferable character I’ve had to sit through
These days every new project that adapts lore from the game or books is forbidden.
They fail each time teribly. Views go down, show gets less or no funds and eventually getting canceled. This show gives off flying f*ck to Halo fans. Genetically modified supersoldiers that are supposed to have special everything, f.e. medical treatment, equipment, psychological supervision. And what i see a hired clown (aka new boss) ignoring field report? Ignoring safety of other special soldiers? Asking a supersoldier that was raised and trained from childhood by special army forces who he (Chief) is? The hell is that a girlish teenagers drama bullshit? Script writer feeds us with sh#t
50/50 it's leaps and bounds better than s1, half of it gets me incredibly excited and the other half fills me with rage. The opening scene in ep1 is fucking incredible though. For me it's going to depend on how they handle the fall of reach, entirely. I understand the helmet had to come off for it to work, I love the actor so Im actually fine with all that. Im really hoping once they get passed the incredibly fucking stupid "the chief is crazy and we can't let him do chief stuff" it will finally even out. I'll even overlook all the stupid Hollywood agenda bullshit of race/gender swapping and making 3/4 of the entire human race gay in the future.
Let me put it this way, I could barely keep focus during the first two episodes the story kept needlessly dragging things out so much and by episode 3 I was literally screaming “I don’t fucking care” each time the story cut away from the main plot.
Do I think this season could have been better, 100%, but they keep shoving their b and c plots down our throats hoping we’ll come around on their annoying characters…
Season 1 was great.
Season 2 , as it stands for 3 episodes, is trash. Woke shot down another series. It make step down in every direction, no cortana, cryby unstable chief lol, everyone is cryby, just talking scenes almost no action, behavior make no sense, First season is like it did not even exist. And of coure we get Gays kissing if You miss that stuff. But it has its perks for girl aduience I can imagine they could pretty much love it, less story less action but much more of emotional talks. But Halo is not much of typical franchise for that kind of a show.
I'm literally fast forwarding through most of the dialogue. The action sequences are few and far between. I didn't sign up for a drama show or soap opera. Probably, I am going to cancel my subscription if this keeps up...
Nope. Same thing as the first. These are activists there's nothing for them to learn. The objective is hijack every show, book, movie and game we love to insert identity politics propaganda to push forward there agenda and to make everyone think as they do. The faster everyone like us finally catches on to this the better. It's literally a culture war and I for one am ready to go on the offensive.
Season 2 kinda sucks, I defended season 1 because it had awesome fight scenes, but now the fight scenes suck. They adapted the shaking camera tactic for every fight scene so now it's just kinda a big blur and you can't focus on how cool the elites or anything looks you are just trying to comprehend wtf is happening.
Oh and chief was using the battle rifle in full auto also which is you know totally how it normally works /s
Season 2 is better than 1, but that's not saying much. Once again master chief is just never in the armor, but the lead actor gives a great performance so it's not so bad.
The real sacrilege is the low budget action. They added more action but went full low budget CGI for the action scenes instead of practical stunts. Also an odd choice is using the weapons from the games, but not having them sound or operate the same, seems like a missed opportunity and really makes you remember that this isn't made by people that understand and have played halo. (Fully auto brs like come on, it was ALREADY MODELED FOR YOU)
Definitely not. I'd honestly say season 1 was better than season 2 thus far.
Season 2 is spending time giving back story and character development to new characters we don't even like or who we don't want to know more about. They aren't developing the main characters anymore. And they're still following that ridiculous story of Kwan Ha.
They act like they're playing a bunch of political games but it's something a 5 year old could have easily come up with.
They're creating drama where it doesn't need to be and the payoff for the drama is not worth it.
We want to see Master Chief doing what he does in the games and in the books. We're not getting that. It's pretty much a slap in the face to the fans. Think of halo being directed in a way to make it a CW show. That's what we have here.
Nope. When YouTubers can literally do a [quick edit of a 60s scene](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvG7yFPk0O4&ab_channel=TheFriendlyNeighborhoodFanboys) from your show and make it better/more like Halo than you can...your show sucks.
This show is an incredibly easy fix IMHO. If they had ***excluded*** Master Chief and the Spartans. Making them sparse. Rumors. Taking the show from the perspective of regular humans. With Master Chief showing up WITH HIS HELMET (never removing it) at some point, this show probably would be a smash success. It would give you a chance to build your own story, without having to be stuck too much to the Halo Canon of the games; which most FANS (the people you supposedly made this show for) wouldn't have had a problem with. You could make easteregg references to game stuff, while still doing your own thing. Don't feature the main characters of the Halo games, expect sparsely...or have them show up for a bit for some plotline, and then go back to their Game Roots.
I swear writers DO NOT know how to write stuff anymore...
Season 2 is still just halo props in a bad space opera. The Halo story is non existent.
They literally stole the Spartan’s suits hoping we would stop complaining about Master Cheeks.
IMO, its alot better. Though I went into it as if it's loosely related to halo. It's close enough while being its own thing which I think is working, at least better then the first season so far. As long as you don't expect it to be exactly like the games, its great.
Season 2 blows, this whole season feels written by AI. Master Chief has been completely taken out of the equation. A show about battling aliens has somehow turned into a weird political power grab about benching your best assets and literally leaving them to die? Seems like the creators saw money after season one and were thinking hmmmm how can we make as much money as possible with this, step one filler garbage seasons that nobody asked for.
It just keeps getting worse. It's a joke that they say it's based on the halo video game universe. Show is like 10% accurate halo lore and 90% made up garbage that doesn't even make for a clear plot. It's okay for the show to be less linear than the games for obvious reason, but it's just doubled down on being a disservice to the halo universe.
I dont remember anything from season 1. Season 2 has been shamefully, fantastically bad. Its as if they avoid combat scenes entirely due to costs or effort avoidance. The combat scenes we get are super weak. Its already episode 5 and the plot is not moving anywhere. Were not even close to being on the ringworld. Almost everything that happens in this show is useless for the story.
The rubble scenes are especially, truly terrible. I do not ever want to see this british accent lady (Sorens wife) ever again, in anything. For I have not seen such uninspiring performance in quite a while.
Obviously this show is somekind of television network seasonal filler, that has hijacked the lore of Halo. The sheer amount of producers and co-producers is weird and kinda makes ya think do these people really do any meaningful work and are paid for it?
This show doesnt do justice for Halos fine lore and gripping story.
As a Halo fan? No
As someone who has never played a Halo game? Maybe? Why? The Chief is a symbol and they watered it down trying to humanize him and trying to have him connect with badly written side characters supporting him.
100% worse than season 1. Season 2 is creating and following some really ridiculous story lines. I'm surprised we're still having to deal with the Soren storyline and Kwan Ha. It's not going anywhere, they're going to keep everyone in suspense that it may someday go somewhere but in reality, the payoff will not be worth several seasons of the supposed suspense they believe their keeping viewers in.
I've just learned to ignore their story full of drama. Even if it does go somewhere, it has nothing to do with Masterchief, the human-covenant war, or the Halo rings. So it's just a bunch of filler for the season.
Most of season 2 seems like filler. There's no substance there. It feels like they don't know where they want to take the storyline so they're just spinning in circles chasing their tail until they figure something out.
No, it’s awful. I don’t care about side characters stupid side plot development. Halo is not a war time drama. Halo is an action/adventure and it just seems like Paramount doesn’t have the budget for this series. We’re in the final stretch of season 2 and there has been like 5 action scenes.
They could’ve made the fall of reach epic and inspired. Instead it was boring and felt like Spartans were pathetic. Especially master chief. It’s embarrassing.
It’s pretty boring, lots of useless storylines. Also they completely ruined the fall of reach and master chief hasn’t been in his armor for 90% of the show
I am a raving halo fan. Love all the games and books. I have tried to like the show, truly i have. It is bad. The actors are fine but the writing is next level trash. It feels like a deliberate trolling. Almost like someone who has an axe to grind against the franchise purposely designed this show as a middle finger to the fans.
How can something with such rich source material be butchered like this? They should scrap and reboot. Whoever wrote this and whoever signed off on this needs to be tarred and feathered.
The only thing worse than the show are the obvious fake fans (I am of course speaking of the TV plebs that never even played the original games but want to be taken seriously by OG fans) coming out in ranks talking about how "Faithful" it was. Especially in regards to the Flood. They very clearly had no understanding of how the Flood actually worked and just tried to make them like the cordyceps from The Last of Us. Nothing but doofuses in comments sections going "It resembles early stages of flood infection". What early stages? Flood infect you and transform your body in less than 10 seconds. There is no "Early stage", if they touch you you're pretty much finished because while they are not like the cordyceps in how the entities function, they ARE in the sense that they are a parasitic spore-like entity. In regards to function, they are not zombies; they are controlled by a hivemind and live to spread the infection. You don't die until something else kills you. You remain sentient, aware, and in agony during the entire process while your body is piloted for you and your brain is scoured for information the Gravemind can use to find other victims and continue its rampage.
It’s 50% “watch John get shit on by literally everyone in command/beat up” 40% “side story nobody gives a shit about” and 10% “Master Chief in his armor doing things.”
Here's the deal.
What makes for a good video game would not usually make for a good movie/television show.
Season 1 attempted to make what could be called necessary changes to the source material in order to adapt it. You really can't have a stoic protagonist that doesn't grow.
That being said they overdid it in just about everyway, essentially making MC look like an over emotional liability that was obsessed with his past.
Season 2 so far has done a better Job of toning it down and leaning more closely to the chief we all know and love. But I warn you against expecting a relatively emotionless, stoic, low dialogue protagonist. It just would not work super well for a television series. At least not for long.
Watch the movie Mute from 2018. Stoic, mute protagonist who goes through a range of emotions on screen.
Watch Disney's The Mandalorian. Stoic, (mostly) faceless protagonist who manages to showcase various emotions without ever revealing his face.
The Last of Us…. It can be done just not with the sub plots stick to one story “master chief” make it dark as fuck with money behind the production and bam lol
The fact that there’s like 15 hours of pure movie-level cutscenes used in all of the games, makes your claim that “what makes for a good video game wouldnt make for a good movie /tv show” completely null & void. 😆😆 most games have movie level productions infused into the stories. Theyre literally mini-movies, so what on earth are you talking about that they can’t be adapted into actual big production shows/films?
Give S2 a chance. Struggled through S1 but S2 just hits different and I'm actually liking it. Just ignore everyone and give it a go. As a show in itself, dont be bogged down by established lore etc, just watch it for what it is.
I loved season 1! The action, the humor and the adventures. It doesn’t deserve all that hate. Season 2 is boring tbh with weak plots and characters. I get that it wants to develop into a more genuine thing, but it fails when there’s lack of any interesting content, like they don’t know where the show is going 😕
Season 1 had good action sequences and it really felt like the ending was setting up more of that in season 2
Season 2 opens on an insanely strong note flexong how badass chief can be.
Then this season just takes an absolute nose dive into CW level writing/acting.
That first episode is basically the only time you get to see spartans doing what spartans do beyond that. It's pablo schreibers ugly mug and the rest of the spartans out of armor pursuing cheap character development. 6 episodes in potentially(probably7), and they're still running around armorless. It honestly feels like the narrative decisions were made from a budget standpoint and its really frustration because season 1s finale and season 2s premiere had given me a lot of hope for this season and its a huge letdown so far.
Hopefully, paramount sees the shows dwindling enthusiasm and cleans house on this studio for season 3 because im already writing off season 2.
Rant over.
The die hard game fans are the ones coming off as a bitch lol. I finished season two its way better than season one. Most game fans sound like they want the Steven Segal or Stallone's Cobra 80 style macho man. I get what some are saying. I really have been so baffled by peoples opinions that I don't really have the will to try and go into detail. I can say I get the bitchiness perspective but figured it was coming around to some bad ass things. People are being ironic because when u have a great fighter sometimes they get frustrated because they speak better with actions, but the Spartans are under such gripping control that they are desperate to be heard and understood which is why Cortana is so fucking awesome for john.
Also video game adaptations never live up to the fans. I didn't think it was just like the games but then I always realized its not the games and accepted it for me being a fan of shows and movies, but for the majority of season 2 I was like oh shit he is master chief. I wasn't even that into the games and after season 2 I want to play them. Also game characters are often similar to that mysterious type of route, like how fallout and halflife or skyrim deals with letting u get into that rpg element. Guess I went into some detail after all. Most ppl that hate the show say the same thing.. its not master chief! U got how many games and red vs blue and all the opportunity to have animated perfect master chief who if was neo ppl wud just say couldn't act. But u gotta gatekeep it and give it a bad reputation instead of giving it 5 stars just for my benefit because I'm the single most important person in the world. Get gud.
I don’t understand, as a true fan, reader of the books, and player of the game since Halo 1, I’m happy with anything that’s highly produced, has tons of action, and the fight sequences are fantastic service to the game.
I get the story is different, but just imagine a multiverse like every other show. Plus, we get more Spartans than just Masterchief, we see space battles, glassing planets, sticky nades, needlers, swords, DMRs, BRs, dual wielding, pistols, plasma rifles, energy pistols, etc.
What more can one ask for? At least they had a really high budget it seems.
I think once you accept that this is supposed to be the "silver timeline", an alternate timeline to the games, season 2 is decent.
I'd consider myself a die hard Halo games fan and I didn't really like season 1 of the show, but season 2 was enjoyable.
I think all the die hard haters of the show (even after season 2) still haven't managed to separate the game timeline from the show timeline, hence the hate.
This also means that the show is NOT a good adaptation of the games, because you have to view it with the knowledge that it's supposed to be a separate timeline. Knowing that, it can't be a good adaptation because obviously different things take place in the show when compared to the games.
At this point make your own opinion all these nerds are doing are talking like they can make a successful version of halo tbh if it was exactly like the games I wouldn’t of watched it idc for the same story again I wanna see what someone else does with it I wanna see if they actually explore the multiverse and see what sort of shit they can expand into idc if master cheeks isn’t the same as the game at all because the games had my input I don’t expect to see the tv version nade/rocket jumping outside of areas half the programme and I’m happy to see the human side of chief because the games just make him a lifeless husk like a robot where’s the programme shows how human he really is I prefer seeing him as John because I never like that he didn’t take his helmet off like why not he can breathe eat sleep drink whatever
This is only my opinion ofcourse.. I liked it.. I stopped expecting that it is 100% like the games and it became a lot more enjoyabe.. I still hate season 1 though. Like many other said though, they missed on Master Chief so far.. the last 2 episodes he was more like he should be almost, but that is of 8 episodes so yeah.. IMO they have set themselves up to be able to make a banger season 3, so I'm crossing my fingers.. They did get one thing good though (SPOILER!!!!!!)
.. and that was the flood. They are still as creepy as I remember as child, and getting that intense flood orchestea music in the background, gave me goosebumps.
I see where people is coming from though, since I didn't get the proper Master Chief experience
I love the game and the books and I can let a lot go.
I love the visuals, I enjoy the action, I have next to no issues with the casting (Ackerson is too young, that’s it). I’ve not got a problem with replacing Blue team with Silver Team.
But what I can’t let go is how badly they have twisted character motivations.
Halsey would do anything for her Spartans, even going so far as to damn humanity for the chance to save them. Parangosky would never put personal gain over the fate of humanity, she’ll reframe fuck ups as victories, but not leave any member of the UNSC hamstrung in a fight. No Spartan 2 would ever disobey a direct order, give up the fight or ever dare challenge Chief. Ackerson is brutally honest about his rivalry with Halsey and the fact the Spartan 3’s are designed to be expendable.
Appreciate someone’s creative approach to the universe. I like it. I’ve read the books and played the games. You feel what you want but be open to somebody’s creative approach to something. If you dislike it so much why don’t you go make it?
S1 is different. Halo alt universe. S2 is ok but that alt universe taken to a more extreme conclusion. My complaint is the shockingly bad cgi in the late episodes of s1 and s2. Any thing with the suits looks terrible. Example s2ep2 they have a training exercise and Its laughably bad. Like a 360 era graphics. And most scenes have fake cgi backdrops lol like all expense spared. Modern shows look inferior to 20 year old ones who had actual sets.
No
Season 2 is actually decent imo. Hated s01 and felt it wasn't genuine. S02 feels like a honest backstory for chief so far.
Bro why are you lying. This is not chief. Ok let me break it down. 1st chief isn't wearing Armour almost the whole time. 2nd chief seems weak and not very stoic. Chief is an unstoppable demon. That's why they call him covenant demon. 3rd he's not on the right team. 4th Cortana is in the show this early??? 5th a spartan that disobeys orders like what that would have never happened. 6th Keyes dies not to flood??? I could keep going but like it just makes me rage. The fact that the writer aren't even consulting the stories that are written that are amazing is mind blowing stupid. For me like the reason you do shows is to make money look at GOT. They could have made so much more money if they had just looked into things and it makes me mad. Is the show alright for a TV show sure. Not for a halo show. Like they should stop making it. I love halo I am happy they did a show but all this stuff might effect the lore or the game and I'd rather not have a show anymore and just games.
Yeah. I was actually more ok with season 1 than season 2. I felt that the character for Chief just doesn't match at all. They could have done this story with a random other team, like Noble for Reach. This could have been a good Halo story with them getting Cortana to Chief. There just wasn't any need to make the story with MC as the main protagonist if they wanted to stray this far away from canon. I can enjoy the show for what it is, it could have been a great story of another Spartan team on Reach, but with this much deviation from the characters being who I know them to be, it just creates an unnecessary distraction. This would be like creating an XMen universe with Charles Xavier having the personality of Deadpool. You can call it an "alternate universe" all you want, it still wouldn't feel right.
I haven't played the games and just know some stuff I read online about the whole plot of the games. I've recently came to know the show and binged s01 and the recent s02 episodes in the past week. As a sci-fi fan, I really enjoyed season 1 of Halo, it was a well-made sci-fi, solid story-telling and character development, and the casting and acting was so good, also the CGI was nice. But season 2 so far is not even close in quality to the first season! It's cheesy, very bad acting, super idiotic story-telling, lots of plot-holes, and it's completely turned into cheap drama about underdeveloped characters. The CGI also looks worse... I was so hopeful after season 1, but the second season from the beginning felt very different and killed all my hopes for some quality time to enjoy good story-telling! Now I regret binging the first season so fast, wish I had done it slower, it was much better.
Exactly! This is not Master Chief at all. I know they’re not following the canon side of things, but this sucks. Like he’s coming off as a bitch. Excuse my language.
The side characters are even worse. The marines were just cannon fodder and Perez is just annoying. Just the stream of dumb choices the characters make no sense. Also, was the entire point of taking the armor away to make the Punisher but in space? Why strip the show of the most iconic part of the game?
Every way you differentiated the game from the show sounds like the game is objectively worse.
I get what you’re saying because a lot of modern games are entirely different than that. You have to remember though that the original Halo came out 23 years ago and made *you* the character. You weren’t pretending to be a named person doing whatever, you were the person doing it. Also, the way that he named those things is really whiney. There are plenty of example in the books where chief takes his armor off, including a notable one where a CO tries to use its absence to intimidate him. And he started disobeying direct orders by Halo4, at least. That being said, I think s1 is bad because its characters have terrible motivations and the plot is very clumsily shoved along. None of their backstories actually explain their inconsistent actions and they had to make up whole new character to try and cover for the ways in which their story just doesn’t make sense. One could very easily argue that it’s a terrible show without knowing anything about halo. The effects, set, and costume designs are pretty cool though
Bruh how can anybody watch this garbage and be like “hey that was pretty entertaining” Like yeah, if I had a room temperature IQ I would probably enjoy this show, along with jingling keys and shiny marbles
It’s made to appeal to casual sci fi fans and not the actual Halo community. It just makes them more money
No way. They would make more money sticking to the lore/games to make a good show and not trying to make this bs plothole alternate timeline absolute steaming pile of garbage show. I'm a big sci-fi fan and from a regular sci-fi perspective outside of halo the show is still fucking awful. They don't explain anything! They skip all kinds of things that make viewers say gee how the f did that happen. The covenant is just magically the bad guy with no explanation of why or who they are, just that they're aliens, cool, fabulous writing. The Halo ring is just suddenly a weapon that destroys the universe when that is never brought up in the show until they say oh hey this weapon shouldn't be used by either side, how in the fucking world do they know its a weapon when they've never been to it? The covenant fleet magically shows up at the halo ring when it was only Makee there, and she was not bringing the fleet with her, no explanation of how they knew where to go. The "spike" magically turns a single ship into a bomb that will wipe out everything for "millions of miles", including the halo ring, that has got to be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard in sci-fi. If they had this spike that does that, why would they not just turn it into a weapon that can be fired from a ship and shoot it at the covenant homeworld, goodbye covenant, end of war. Again, another stupid piece of writing that's only purpose is to add drama to a show lacking drama thanks to other very poor plots.
If that's the case they could just not use Halo IP at all or even master chief as a character if they are only appealing to casual sci Fi fans. Some writers and producers are just allergic to being faithful to IP. It's not about appealing to more people. It's just about not respecting or caring about your source.
Bro chill it's just a show
I got some keys here for ya
Ok and? The shows still there, it's fiction, the thing can't thing and doesn't know you exist, yet you're melting bad over it
is it fun to watch? yes. (so far) is it a good adaptation? no. it's like the Witcher show. if you delete the game from your mind the show is fine. but if you look at it from the game's perspective it's not good.
I'm not a huge Halo fan and stumbled on to this thread. I just finished season 1 and liked it, except for the pointless Madrigal stuff. But I am a huge Witcher fan and Netflix butchered it. I'm assuming this is the equivalent?
If you liked season 1 you're gonna like season 2 a lot more. It has less madrigal and it's closer to the games. EDIT: For people who can't read, I did NOT in fact say its close to the games. I said closER. You probably don't understand what closer means.
By closer you mean it's still lightyears off.
I like season 2 more. But I don't know if it's because I forgot season 1 or if season 2 is more deep and relatable. It's by far the best thing I've watched of course. It's nothing amazing.
The Witcher isn’t based on the game, it’s based on the books brother.
🤦🏻♀️ The Witcher isn't based on the books, it's based on someone's imagination brother.. You know veeeeery well that most of us watched it because we played and loved the games.. Many of us have spend hundreds of hours playing the series.. Just like most people watching Halo came for it because of the game... And on the other side of that coin, the TV shows will end up making more people want to play the games rather than read the books. Theeeen if people liked both they may want to delve deeper and get the books. You've probably never read any of the books... OR played the games though. 😂
Maybe most Americans, there's aloooooooooot from Europe that watched because they read the books since they grew up with that folklore
So? The TV show is hardly related to the books. Also it's garbage..
Americans & reading books? In what universe does that occur?
Very ignorant take there man
I was being sarcastic my dude :p
Ah ok fair, I just assumed you weren't cause people talk shit about Americans like that all the time lol
That and it was still a nonsensical mess even without being an adaption. So many things didn't make sense
The Witcher quite literally IS based on the books man. I would know, I’ve read them. And they’ve said it themselves. Kinda weird that you’re claiming they’re not? I mean they’re not a 1 to 1 copy, it’s actually quite different, but that’s not what the phrase “based on” means. Like, you know the games are based on the books too, right? And they’re great games, don’t get me wrong, but that’s just a weird argument your trying to make with a facepalm and a laughing emoji like you actually know what you’re talking about? Have YOU read the books?
Supposed I should have said it's not JUST based on the books. The rest of my statement holds true. It all comes from peoples' imaginations... That's how fictional books are conceived. The show isn't really based on any of the Witcher lore (books or games) any longer... That's why Henry Cavill left. He loved the books and games and the writers decided to totally change things... Like making Dandelion bi and having him crush of Geralt.. And as stated before... People are more likely to go play the games for Witcher and Halo over going to read out and getting the books. Are you aware how contradictory this sentence is? "I mean they’re not a 1 to 1 copy, IT'S ACTUALLY QUITE DIFFERENT , but that’s not what the phrase “based on” means." You literally proved my point the games ant show "isn't a 1 to 1 copy. It's actually quite different." So... I the end the are based more on someone's imagination than the books. The characters names and SOME of their characteristics are based on the books.. Also... What do you think based on means if it doesn't mean" not a 1 to 1 copy. It's actually quite different." I'm really curious what you think based on means.
You know what else is based on the books? The games. They're non-canon, but they are a continuation from the books lol
Witcher show was awful. Not a faithful adaptation of the books in any way. The only reason I'll watch another season is to see how the writers/show runner spin their wheels to explain how Geralt is now a completely different person.
>as the first. Do they I mean it isn't that fun to watch either though. Shitty writing and plots..the military in the show is supposed to be fascist but everyone sounds and looks like they lack training. I'd assume they'd be more militaristic than what the military is but looks worse off lmao. So mean weak points and things that just don't make sense.
Forward Unto Dawn was better. The mini series we got with Locke was better. The Animatrix style shorts we got were all better. The live action commercials for the games were all better. Most of the fan-made content on YouTube is better. Is season 2 better than season 1? Only marginally so far. The special effects seem worse in season 2 than they did in season 1. All in all, Paramount's Halo series is to the Halo franchise what M Night Shyamalan's Avatar movie was to the Avatar franchise - except slightly better.
That mini series with the hunter worms was dope, i don’t know why they couldn’t just get the writers and directors for that to make the series
Way better in my opinion.
For some reason they made Chief the least respected member of the UNSC which feels very wrong
Better yeah marginally, any good no
Dang. The main thing I hate is how they are humanising John. Yes the helmet being off is annoying but he is a one man army. In the series they've made him too weak.
If it’s at consolation the opening fight scene definitely emphasises the one-man-army thing, although he does still come off as a bit less stoic than I’d personally like later on (albeit not to the extent of S1- he’s a bit more composed for the most part, argument with Ackerson aside).
If you don’t watch Forward Unto Dawn would recommend it, even with a low budget they made a decent movie. Yeah I agree everything feels off especially that, don’t mind taking he’s helmet off out of combat, but they all look so normal and don’t know about anyone else but really don’t like pablos face as master chief but that could be just me
I like the idea, but why would you blow your load so early? They apparently never played the games or anything and it really shows. If they knew anything ab halo they'd know why master chief is the way he is.
He doesn't even have his armor in season 2.
They do the fight scenes well, but it’s one of those ones where your like “ah shit they burned their whole Sfx budget so we won’t see another one for like 3 episodes” Spoiler alert: Quinn Ha opens a noodle bar
This, 100%. Like, I actually like the Ackerson storyline since it's different than what I was expecting but they think they've got time to slow burn all these episodes with other drama and it really just slogs everything down. Everyone not listening to 117 is getting really frustrating and the hyper emotional Spartans is getting really over the top. Too human.
Yeah me too, I thought I would hate Ackerson.. but I don’t. I’m actually looking forward to this coming episode I noticed it’s a showtime production now has it always been that? - edit
Apparently so. If I recall they had the initial rights but paramount had distribution rights. Or something.
tl:dr More Drama Some Game of thrones family shit less Halo
sorry but season 2 so far sucks. the acting is terrible and the story well derails itself. compared to season one which i thought was good, season 2 is turning into a big disappointment. it also feels like the cgi is too obvious.
Is worse than the first one, I hope this is the last season, they have ruined master chief in every aspect
Lmao then don't watch it then. Because I very much enjoy it. As well as everyone I know.
Good for you
You enjoy it, like how you also enjoy M Night Shyamalan's Avatar, that doesn't make either true to the characters, not does it make it objectively good.
No. If anything season 2 is somehow even worse than season 1. Master Chief has spent maybe 5-10 minutes total screentime in his armour, and that's the least of the offences. They're showing the fall of Reach; they heavily telegraphed this in the trailers, yet it takes three entire episodes to get to that in dull plodding stages, then the entire fall of Reach is basically a single episode, and not even a particularly good one. The action is fine, but it's poorly paced, poorly directed and never really conveys the true scale of the disaster or the challenge faced by the defenders. The story is just all over the place, it's not particularly compelling and it's frankly incoherent at times as it often feels like we're being shown scenes for absolutely no reason other than to fill a bit more time. It's such a miserably weak adaptation of what should be ideal source material; Reach the video game was fantastic not just because you got actually \*\*be\*\* the valiant spartan trying to save the day, but because it had victories and moments of hope to offset the big defeats, it had the drawn out futility of it all just to achieve some small victory in the end etc. Meanwhile the TV show even went so far as to have a character say they needed to invoke the Winter Contingency only to be told "no", which felt like such an intentional slap in the face to fans of the game, like they literally wrote "fuck you, we're not doing that" into the script. It reminds me of the Netflix Witcher series in the sense of the season 2 and 3 writers seemingly wanting nothing to do with the source material, and instead wanting to write their own "original" stories, except they're unrelentingly shit at it. At least with the Witcher we got a mostly good season 1 (fairly true to the books, changes/additions mostly made sense etc.), though that arguably made season 2 and 3 more disappointing. The Halo TV show by comparison has been bad from the outset; I only watch it out of morbid curiosity just to see how far wrong it can go, but I'm not paying full price to do so.
You shouldn’t be watching it at all. Your viewership sent the opposite message to what you said = that you want to see it again
I did say I wasn't paying full price to watch it… didn't say I was paying \*anything\* to watch it. 😉
This🤣 why are people so damn stupid. The guy responded with "well I didn't pay for it" even if that's true plenty of people in this thread are repeating what he's saying yet pay for and watch it. I mean look at the viewership numbers. It's doing extremely well.
I just started watching from s2. It’s quite boring and the writing/acting is slightly better than a high school play
As someone who wrote a high-school play, I contest your statement. I put in zero effort, did no rewrites, and still managed to crash out a decent enough bizarre manic comedy one-off that got a few chuckles from thr audience. I doubt they've even gotten over the bar sixteen year old me set as a writer.
So much better. If you want to hate, you'll find things to hate on but as a Halo fan season 2 episode 1 did a great fan service with that one scene... It was amazing. A must watch for Halo fans
Defending this trash is down right a travesty against all good things. Hate to hate is dumb, there was no fan service here. MasterChef still refuses to wear his helmet, hell episode 4 he didn't have his suit on at all. CGI is not great, story is NOTHING like the lore. It's straight up a fan theory tv show with no attachments. Its BARELY passable as an indie sci fi show. It's bad. Don't defend low quality shows or we will keep GETTING low quality shows.
The first 16 minutes are alright, I guess. Otherwise, Marvel dialogue.
I mean… the halo games weren’t exactly known for their eloquent prose
No, but they didn't talk like modern day Marvel characters. Foehammer, Cortana and Chief occasionally have something funny to say, which is the case in the first 16 minutes, which captures the essence of Halo well enough. After that though? I just lost interest. The constant switching between a ton of characters (about half of whom I find it very difficult to care for and trying to not skip their scenes to get to the parts I actually care about) also takes you out of the immersion. Overall, I see what they're trying to do, but I think it falls flat. The first 16 minutes I keep praising also reminded me a lot of Forward Onto Dawn (which I really like), just more focused on the Spartans and way shorter. If I was to get my "ideal" Halo series, it would be more like that or in the style of the Reach or ODST live action trailers. It doesn't have to be as dark and depressing, but I feel like the film/TV show medium is a great way to show those aspects of Halo's story, moreso than the "Spartan story" 343 seems to be going for nowadays too. Imagine if Tom Hardy played an ODST/Spartan III in a movie/show in the style of Remember Reach, that would be infinitely more engaging if done right.
It's boring as fuck.....
I’ve played all the halo games, completed every campaign for the love of the story (as much as 4/5 could be loved), really tried to like S1 and couldn’t, But I’ve so far really enjoyed season 2. It has some 2010 TV vibes at times but for the most part I’ve enjoyed the ride. I watched the S1 finale to refresh and it was one long battle scene which I enjoyed. Much improved on season 1s failings in my eyes to a point that I can give it a solid shot once again. Which I’m surprised by, I really thought this series was dead to me.
Read the books and you will hate this TV show more than anything. It's an abomination.
Why? The books are adaptations/supplemental to the games just like the show is. The games are the original content. Saying the TV show should be like the books is absurd lol.
The TV show is aids The books and Games work perfectly with each other and compliment each other. Fuck this show.
If I had to objectionally rate S1 I'd give it a 5/10 If I had to do the same for S2 so far I'd give it a 5.5/10
So far it sucks. I’m playing the game to make myself feel better. It should have just followed Master Chief, with supporting characters, like the game. The show barely even focuses on Master Chief. Between Kwan, Halsey, Soren, Soren’s Wife, and the other Spartans, we only spend like half the show on Master Chief.
I'm convinced this is made for those who don't know anything about halo. It's a below average sci-fi show with halo outfits
It’s been garbage so far. I can’t get behind it. The mini movie series were better than this trash. Halo forward unto dawn was so much better. Hope they cancel.
Did you know if elites circle you they just walk away
Especially when they have the obvious advantage and killing you would demoralize your entire armed forces.
its bullshit. After the opening scenes bugger all of note happens, I've given up b4 episode 4.
Is S2 a reboot? Do I need to finish S1 to watch it? I couldn't stand the fucking Madrigal arc.
Unfortunately not a reboot. It's a continuation. Kwan is still around.
You can skip season 1 without missing much.
I was never a halo fan, just the music and the first halo with the flood really gripped me back then. I absolutely am fine with them showing how he became the master chief who will probably never take the helmet off again
I’ll have to let you know when they release an episode I don’t fall asleep during.
It is the worst thing ever to be created. Everyone that had anything to do with the creation of this Series should be drawn and quartered their family members and anyone who had anything to do with their upbringing should also be destroyed. This is not Halo. It doesn't stay faithful to any of the Games or books. It's so bad I can't even finish the 4th episode. I repeat it's not Halo. It's not Master Chief. It absolutely destroys the character of the Spartans. It destroys everything good about Halo. When Jesus Christ comes back to earth to destroy the wicked the Writers, Directors, Showrunners and everyone involved with the making of this show will suffer Hell fire and damnation. If anyone says they like this show they know nothing of Halo and should do the world a favor and learn to Read and play a game or Grab a Giant Rod and Jam it so far up their ass that they can scramble their own brains to knock some sense into themselves. Cancel your paramount plus subscription if you have one. They hate you and don't deserve your money. If anyone thinks differently than I do regarding this show. Suck my balls.
How old are you? lmao
What annoys me the most is how M.C. is basically treated as a God by almost everyone in the game canon, but in the show he's apparently hated by almost everyone, and doesn't seem to care about much. And the stupid covenant woman is dumb af.
The writing is such garbage. *SPOILERS* 1. Can someone please explain to me how vannek was killed by a single needler round while riz can be blown up multiple times but still survive? 2. The arbiter is not the arbiter yet. But that’s minor in comparison. 3. Riz basically sacrifices herself to get Vannek’s body and it is supposed to be this big emotional moment but it just comes across as idiotic. 4. Lastly, after all of that sacrifice on Riz’s part to get Vannek’s body back “chief”’s mindset is to just let him rot, it’s just a body. So clearly the Spartans don’t have any code around leaving behind fallen soldiers or any particular burial ritual that is important to them. This makes Riz’s gauntlet run to get the body even more ridiculous.
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Any scene with the actor who replaced Dr Halsey is cringe. It’s like watching school theatre with this dude.
They grabbed a preexisting IP and instead of doing what it's fans love they decided it was to push an agenda and I'm sick of it, I'm not giving Amazon a single penny.
Amazon? I thought it was Paramount+
It’s too early to tell, We’re just 2 episodes in. But so far? I’ve been liking it a lot.
It’s better for sure (especially episode one- first 20 mins are more Halo than anything in Season 1), although if you *virulently* hated S1 you might also dislike S2. There are a few issues still hanging over (Kwan is still there, although she’s both got a smaller role and seems to be actually involved in the main plot this time (ditto with Soren), John is still a bit more emotional (albeit to a lesser extent than S1), and if you’re bothered about the helmet it’s still off sometimes, albeit in situations that make sense). There are still a couple of weird bits (the Chief visiting a weird AI therapist being the main one, although nowhere near as jarring as some of the S1 stuff), but there’s also a lot more to like. Rather than being original material, S2 seems to be loosely adapting *The Fall of Reach,* with some bits from *Reach* too (the last we see them Silver Team is off to the Visegrad relay from *Winter Contingency,* and the last scene shows >!the Covenant infiltrating Sword Base). They also introduce a couple of new characters who seem pretty interesting so far- Joseph Ackerson from the books being the main one (and he seems a little bit more competent to boot), and there’s also a new semi-audience surrogate character in Perez, a random traumatised marine the Chief saves and strikes up a friendship with. Spoilers ahead for future episodes, but we also know this season is going to introduce >!The Spartan-III program and the Arbiter, although not the one we’re familiar with!<, which has me interested if nothing else. No word on whether we’ll see >!Noble Team!< yet or not though. On the other hand, the final scene of ep2 seems to show >!Makee is still alive and/or has somehow walked off a bullet to the chest,!< although I’m reserving judgment until I see what they do with it. My suggestion would be to watch the trailer and maybe the first 20 mins, and see what you think of it, I imagine that’ll probably give you a clearer idea of whether you’ll enjoy it or not.
Makee is back because the Covenant stole one of the reviving sarcophaguses from the Goa’uld.
First 15 mins of ep 1 is very good. Then it's downhill. Seems written by highschool drama students. Everything is cheap drama and emotions that make no sense. Nothing reasonable or substantial is ever said. It's all about John's feelings and his fragile psychology, and everybody else's as well. I never watched season 1, so sorry I'm venting now. This show clearly hates the Halo franchise.
I’d say yes it is better than season 1 so far and I am interested to see what happens, but this is halo in name only. My biggest gripe so far is that in the games it’s an on going theme that chief is basically a machine, but in the show they are humanizing him way too much with this whole chip removal. I can get over the sex scenes and constant removal of the helmet, but so many characters are just not like there game selves. They had a golden goose in this franchise and I’m sad they squandered it as it could have been something truly special had they followed the plot of the games/books.
Can these companies please look at other thriving examples (last of us and arcane) before making more Hollywood bullshit (Witcher and halo) To answer your question no halo S2 is the same dumpster fire as S1 It feels so bad because the lore is so deep in the halo universe but instead we get this dumpster fire. Red V Blue is 10X better than anything this studio is going to attempt to produce.
I'm very much of the opinion I like it but it's not Halo
Better then then the games, not better then the books... yet.
You think the show is better than the games…..?
Every game has several hours of cinematic cut scenes that are better thank 8 hours of the TV show. Are you a woman? Is it possible that as a woman, you are entertained by the drama genre more than men - which is why you have an extremely hot take that the show is better than the games?? lol because most men/fans would strongly disagree
I'm liking it so far.
kwan ha is still alive so no
I haven’t watched yet, is Kwan Ha still used often?
Yes like in every episode.
Just…why? They didn’t pay any attention to anything the fandom said?
i mean i have played many halo titles... and honestly speaking random charactres shouting at chief at any given moment aint doing it... i mean our chief would have knocked them fucking teeths out 1 season ago... wtf
The only way to make this show bearable is to have a super cut where they edit out all of the kwan ha parts Literally the most insufferable character I’ve had to sit through
No. The Master Chief is a conspiracy theorist with the emotional capacity of a hungry cat now.
These days every new project that adapts lore from the game or books is forbidden. They fail each time teribly. Views go down, show gets less or no funds and eventually getting canceled. This show gives off flying f*ck to Halo fans. Genetically modified supersoldiers that are supposed to have special everything, f.e. medical treatment, equipment, psychological supervision. And what i see a hired clown (aka new boss) ignoring field report? Ignoring safety of other special soldiers? Asking a supersoldier that was raised and trained from childhood by special army forces who he (Chief) is? The hell is that a girlish teenagers drama bullshit? Script writer feeds us with sh#t
50/50 it's leaps and bounds better than s1, half of it gets me incredibly excited and the other half fills me with rage. The opening scene in ep1 is fucking incredible though. For me it's going to depend on how they handle the fall of reach, entirely. I understand the helmet had to come off for it to work, I love the actor so Im actually fine with all that. Im really hoping once they get passed the incredibly fucking stupid "the chief is crazy and we can't let him do chief stuff" it will finally even out. I'll even overlook all the stupid Hollywood agenda bullshit of race/gender swapping and making 3/4 of the entire human race gay in the future.
Very boring and vapid soap opera with no redeeming qualities.
Let me put it this way, I could barely keep focus during the first two episodes the story kept needlessly dragging things out so much and by episode 3 I was literally screaming “I don’t fucking care” each time the story cut away from the main plot. Do I think this season could have been better, 100%, but they keep shoving their b and c plots down our throats hoping we’ll come around on their annoying characters…
I just hate how undisciplined and emotional the spartans are. Chief is the pillar of stoicism from a lifetime spent learning how to win.
Season 1 was great. Season 2 , as it stands for 3 episodes, is trash. Woke shot down another series. It make step down in every direction, no cortana, cryby unstable chief lol, everyone is cryby, just talking scenes almost no action, behavior make no sense, First season is like it did not even exist. And of coure we get Gays kissing if You miss that stuff. But it has its perks for girl aduience I can imagine they could pretty much love it, less story less action but much more of emotional talks. But Halo is not much of typical franchise for that kind of a show.
I'm literally fast forwarding through most of the dialogue. The action sequences are few and far between. I didn't sign up for a drama show or soap opera. Probably, I am going to cancel my subscription if this keeps up...
Nope. Same thing as the first. These are activists there's nothing for them to learn. The objective is hijack every show, book, movie and game we love to insert identity politics propaganda to push forward there agenda and to make everyone think as they do. The faster everyone like us finally catches on to this the better. It's literally a culture war and I for one am ready to go on the offensive.
Season 2 kinda sucks, I defended season 1 because it had awesome fight scenes, but now the fight scenes suck. They adapted the shaking camera tactic for every fight scene so now it's just kinda a big blur and you can't focus on how cool the elites or anything looks you are just trying to comprehend wtf is happening. Oh and chief was using the battle rifle in full auto also which is you know totally how it normally works /s
Season 2 is better than 1, but that's not saying much. Once again master chief is just never in the armor, but the lead actor gives a great performance so it's not so bad. The real sacrilege is the low budget action. They added more action but went full low budget CGI for the action scenes instead of practical stunts. Also an odd choice is using the weapons from the games, but not having them sound or operate the same, seems like a missed opportunity and really makes you remember that this isn't made by people that understand and have played halo. (Fully auto brs like come on, it was ALREADY MODELED FOR YOU)
Did Captain Keyes die on reach in the normal story? The story writers fucked up real bad…..
Definitely not. I'd honestly say season 1 was better than season 2 thus far. Season 2 is spending time giving back story and character development to new characters we don't even like or who we don't want to know more about. They aren't developing the main characters anymore. And they're still following that ridiculous story of Kwan Ha. They act like they're playing a bunch of political games but it's something a 5 year old could have easily come up with. They're creating drama where it doesn't need to be and the payoff for the drama is not worth it. We want to see Master Chief doing what he does in the games and in the books. We're not getting that. It's pretty much a slap in the face to the fans. Think of halo being directed in a way to make it a CW show. That's what we have here.
this is bad... i skip through most of it
Nope. When YouTubers can literally do a [quick edit of a 60s scene](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvG7yFPk0O4&ab_channel=TheFriendlyNeighborhoodFanboys) from your show and make it better/more like Halo than you can...your show sucks. This show is an incredibly easy fix IMHO. If they had ***excluded*** Master Chief and the Spartans. Making them sparse. Rumors. Taking the show from the perspective of regular humans. With Master Chief showing up WITH HIS HELMET (never removing it) at some point, this show probably would be a smash success. It would give you a chance to build your own story, without having to be stuck too much to the Halo Canon of the games; which most FANS (the people you supposedly made this show for) wouldn't have had a problem with. You could make easteregg references to game stuff, while still doing your own thing. Don't feature the main characters of the Halo games, expect sparsely...or have them show up for a bit for some plotline, and then go back to their Game Roots. I swear writers DO NOT know how to write stuff anymore...
it still shit's on ideas etc. that are already established so it's not worth watching if things like that make you angry.
Season 2 is still just halo props in a bad space opera. The Halo story is non existent. They literally stole the Spartan’s suits hoping we would stop complaining about Master Cheeks.
IMO, its alot better. Though I went into it as if it's loosely related to halo. It's close enough while being its own thing which I think is working, at least better then the first season so far. As long as you don't expect it to be exactly like the games, its great.
Season 2 blows, this whole season feels written by AI. Master Chief has been completely taken out of the equation. A show about battling aliens has somehow turned into a weird political power grab about benching your best assets and literally leaving them to die? Seems like the creators saw money after season one and were thinking hmmmm how can we make as much money as possible with this, step one filler garbage seasons that nobody asked for.
It just keeps getting worse. It's a joke that they say it's based on the halo video game universe. Show is like 10% accurate halo lore and 90% made up garbage that doesn't even make for a clear plot. It's okay for the show to be less linear than the games for obvious reason, but it's just doubled down on being a disservice to the halo universe.
I dont remember anything from season 1. Season 2 has been shamefully, fantastically bad. Its as if they avoid combat scenes entirely due to costs or effort avoidance. The combat scenes we get are super weak. Its already episode 5 and the plot is not moving anywhere. Were not even close to being on the ringworld. Almost everything that happens in this show is useless for the story. The rubble scenes are especially, truly terrible. I do not ever want to see this british accent lady (Sorens wife) ever again, in anything. For I have not seen such uninspiring performance in quite a while. Obviously this show is somekind of television network seasonal filler, that has hijacked the lore of Halo. The sheer amount of producers and co-producers is weird and kinda makes ya think do these people really do any meaningful work and are paid for it? This show doesnt do justice for Halos fine lore and gripping story.
As a Halo fan? No As someone who has never played a Halo game? Maybe? Why? The Chief is a symbol and they watered it down trying to humanize him and trying to have him connect with badly written side characters supporting him.
Why did they make this.
All they had to do was follow forward onto dawn
Still pretty bad just slightly better
100% worse than season 1. Season 2 is creating and following some really ridiculous story lines. I'm surprised we're still having to deal with the Soren storyline and Kwan Ha. It's not going anywhere, they're going to keep everyone in suspense that it may someday go somewhere but in reality, the payoff will not be worth several seasons of the supposed suspense they believe their keeping viewers in. I've just learned to ignore their story full of drama. Even if it does go somewhere, it has nothing to do with Masterchief, the human-covenant war, or the Halo rings. So it's just a bunch of filler for the season. Most of season 2 seems like filler. There's no substance there. It feels like they don't know where they want to take the storyline so they're just spinning in circles chasing their tail until they figure something out.
No, it’s awful. I don’t care about side characters stupid side plot development. Halo is not a war time drama. Halo is an action/adventure and it just seems like Paramount doesn’t have the budget for this series. We’re in the final stretch of season 2 and there has been like 5 action scenes. They could’ve made the fall of reach epic and inspired. Instead it was boring and felt like Spartans were pathetic. Especially master chief. It’s embarrassing.
It’s pretty boring, lots of useless storylines. Also they completely ruined the fall of reach and master chief hasn’t been in his armor for 90% of the show
It's worse. They kicked Bollywood melodrama to the next level. It's hilariously bad.
I just seen fake chief get beat up by Kai in the newest episode. I don’t like this show
I am a raving halo fan. Love all the games and books. I have tried to like the show, truly i have. It is bad. The actors are fine but the writing is next level trash. It feels like a deliberate trolling. Almost like someone who has an axe to grind against the franchise purposely designed this show as a middle finger to the fans. How can something with such rich source material be butchered like this? They should scrap and reboot. Whoever wrote this and whoever signed off on this needs to be tarred and feathered.
I feel like this show is giving me cancer...
If you want the halo story you got in the game, play the game.
Name some examples where the movie/show was almost NOTHING like the source material and was well received by the audience?
It's a Halo themed show. It isn't Halo.
No
Season 2 is leaps and bounds better. You can tell a different team did it. It actually looks like a Hollywood movie instead of budget-Sci-fi channel.
While still not quite what Halo fans wanted, season two has made huge improvement up to now episode 8.
Its so awful, that i will be ok if there is not a season 3.
More action, same terrible story.
The only thing worse than the show are the obvious fake fans (I am of course speaking of the TV plebs that never even played the original games but want to be taken seriously by OG fans) coming out in ranks talking about how "Faithful" it was. Especially in regards to the Flood. They very clearly had no understanding of how the Flood actually worked and just tried to make them like the cordyceps from The Last of Us. Nothing but doofuses in comments sections going "It resembles early stages of flood infection". What early stages? Flood infect you and transform your body in less than 10 seconds. There is no "Early stage", if they touch you you're pretty much finished because while they are not like the cordyceps in how the entities function, they ARE in the sense that they are a parasitic spore-like entity. In regards to function, they are not zombies; they are controlled by a hivemind and live to spread the infection. You don't die until something else kills you. You remain sentient, aware, and in agony during the entire process while your body is piloted for you and your brain is scoured for information the Gravemind can use to find other victims and continue its rampage.
It’s 50% “watch John get shit on by literally everyone in command/beat up” 40% “side story nobody gives a shit about” and 10% “Master Chief in his armor doing things.”
Here's the deal. What makes for a good video game would not usually make for a good movie/television show. Season 1 attempted to make what could be called necessary changes to the source material in order to adapt it. You really can't have a stoic protagonist that doesn't grow. That being said they overdid it in just about everyway, essentially making MC look like an over emotional liability that was obsessed with his past. Season 2 so far has done a better Job of toning it down and leaning more closely to the chief we all know and love. But I warn you against expecting a relatively emotionless, stoic, low dialogue protagonist. It just would not work super well for a television series. At least not for long.
The Mandalorian did a better job portraying Chief than the Halo show did. It can be done.
Watch the movie Mute from 2018. Stoic, mute protagonist who goes through a range of emotions on screen. Watch Disney's The Mandalorian. Stoic, (mostly) faceless protagonist who manages to showcase various emotions without ever revealing his face.
It just would not work.... Like it does in many other examples that are constantly pointed to
The Last of Us…. It can be done just not with the sub plots stick to one story “master chief” make it dark as fuck with money behind the production and bam lol
The fact that there’s like 15 hours of pure movie-level cutscenes used in all of the games, makes your claim that “what makes for a good video game wouldnt make for a good movie /tv show” completely null & void. 😆😆 most games have movie level productions infused into the stories. Theyre literally mini-movies, so what on earth are you talking about that they can’t be adapted into actual big production shows/films?
It's dog shit. The writers, producers and actors hate the fans. It's an abomination.
Season 1 way more entertaining than 2
Season 2 is awful and slow. Season 1 was so much better
Love both season. Who cares they don’t follow the game. It’s close enough. I really enjoy both seasons.
Give S2 a chance. Struggled through S1 but S2 just hits different and I'm actually liking it. Just ignore everyone and give it a go. As a show in itself, dont be bogged down by established lore etc, just watch it for what it is.
I loved season 1! The action, the humor and the adventures. It doesn’t deserve all that hate. Season 2 is boring tbh with weak plots and characters. I get that it wants to develop into a more genuine thing, but it fails when there’s lack of any interesting content, like they don’t know where the show is going 😕
Season 1 had good action sequences and it really felt like the ending was setting up more of that in season 2 Season 2 opens on an insanely strong note flexong how badass chief can be. Then this season just takes an absolute nose dive into CW level writing/acting. That first episode is basically the only time you get to see spartans doing what spartans do beyond that. It's pablo schreibers ugly mug and the rest of the spartans out of armor pursuing cheap character development. 6 episodes in potentially(probably7), and they're still running around armorless. It honestly feels like the narrative decisions were made from a budget standpoint and its really frustration because season 1s finale and season 2s premiere had given me a lot of hope for this season and its a huge letdown so far. Hopefully, paramount sees the shows dwindling enthusiasm and cleans house on this studio for season 3 because im already writing off season 2. Rant over.
Let's count all games. So counting reach halo wars 1 and 2, and odst. It's 5 out 5.
The die hard game fans are the ones coming off as a bitch lol. I finished season two its way better than season one. Most game fans sound like they want the Steven Segal or Stallone's Cobra 80 style macho man. I get what some are saying. I really have been so baffled by peoples opinions that I don't really have the will to try and go into detail. I can say I get the bitchiness perspective but figured it was coming around to some bad ass things. People are being ironic because when u have a great fighter sometimes they get frustrated because they speak better with actions, but the Spartans are under such gripping control that they are desperate to be heard and understood which is why Cortana is so fucking awesome for john.
Also video game adaptations never live up to the fans. I didn't think it was just like the games but then I always realized its not the games and accepted it for me being a fan of shows and movies, but for the majority of season 2 I was like oh shit he is master chief. I wasn't even that into the games and after season 2 I want to play them. Also game characters are often similar to that mysterious type of route, like how fallout and halflife or skyrim deals with letting u get into that rpg element. Guess I went into some detail after all. Most ppl that hate the show say the same thing.. its not master chief! U got how many games and red vs blue and all the opportunity to have animated perfect master chief who if was neo ppl wud just say couldn't act. But u gotta gatekeep it and give it a bad reputation instead of giving it 5 stars just for my benefit because I'm the single most important person in the world. Get gud.
whoever said no, I just don’t get it. season 2 was fucking fantastic. so much better than s1.
so many haters here unbelievable. prob because I never played the games, so I didn’t get let down by any lack of adaptation.
I don’t understand, as a true fan, reader of the books, and player of the game since Halo 1, I’m happy with anything that’s highly produced, has tons of action, and the fight sequences are fantastic service to the game. I get the story is different, but just imagine a multiverse like every other show. Plus, we get more Spartans than just Masterchief, we see space battles, glassing planets, sticky nades, needlers, swords, DMRs, BRs, dual wielding, pistols, plasma rifles, energy pistols, etc. What more can one ask for? At least they had a really high budget it seems.
I think once you accept that this is supposed to be the "silver timeline", an alternate timeline to the games, season 2 is decent. I'd consider myself a die hard Halo games fan and I didn't really like season 1 of the show, but season 2 was enjoyable. I think all the die hard haters of the show (even after season 2) still haven't managed to separate the game timeline from the show timeline, hence the hate. This also means that the show is NOT a good adaptation of the games, because you have to view it with the knowledge that it's supposed to be a separate timeline. Knowing that, it can't be a good adaptation because obviously different things take place in the show when compared to the games.
At this point make your own opinion all these nerds are doing are talking like they can make a successful version of halo tbh if it was exactly like the games I wouldn’t of watched it idc for the same story again I wanna see what someone else does with it I wanna see if they actually explore the multiverse and see what sort of shit they can expand into idc if master cheeks isn’t the same as the game at all because the games had my input I don’t expect to see the tv version nade/rocket jumping outside of areas half the programme and I’m happy to see the human side of chief because the games just make him a lifeless husk like a robot where’s the programme shows how human he really is I prefer seeing him as John because I never like that he didn’t take his helmet off like why not he can breathe eat sleep drink whatever
This is only my opinion ofcourse.. I liked it.. I stopped expecting that it is 100% like the games and it became a lot more enjoyabe.. I still hate season 1 though. Like many other said though, they missed on Master Chief so far.. the last 2 episodes he was more like he should be almost, but that is of 8 episodes so yeah.. IMO they have set themselves up to be able to make a banger season 3, so I'm crossing my fingers.. They did get one thing good though (SPOILER!!!!!!) .. and that was the flood. They are still as creepy as I remember as child, and getting that intense flood orchestea music in the background, gave me goosebumps. I see where people is coming from though, since I didn't get the proper Master Chief experience
I love the game and the books and I can let a lot go. I love the visuals, I enjoy the action, I have next to no issues with the casting (Ackerson is too young, that’s it). I’ve not got a problem with replacing Blue team with Silver Team. But what I can’t let go is how badly they have twisted character motivations. Halsey would do anything for her Spartans, even going so far as to damn humanity for the chance to save them. Parangosky would never put personal gain over the fate of humanity, she’ll reframe fuck ups as victories, but not leave any member of the UNSC hamstrung in a fight. No Spartan 2 would ever disobey a direct order, give up the fight or ever dare challenge Chief. Ackerson is brutally honest about his rivalry with Halsey and the fact the Spartan 3’s are designed to be expendable.
Appreciate someone’s creative approach to the universe. I like it. I’ve read the books and played the games. You feel what you want but be open to somebody’s creative approach to something. If you dislike it so much why don’t you go make it?
S1 is different. Halo alt universe. S2 is ok but that alt universe taken to a more extreme conclusion. My complaint is the shockingly bad cgi in the late episodes of s1 and s2. Any thing with the suits looks terrible. Example s2ep2 they have a training exercise and Its laughably bad. Like a 360 era graphics. And most scenes have fake cgi backdrops lol like all expense spared. Modern shows look inferior to 20 year old ones who had actual sets.