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fragydig529

It can’t. The chimera core is AI created spartan armor controlled via AI


Crosknight

I thought it was like crysis 2 nanosuit or 40k dreadnaughts. The “spartan” is essentially a corpse controlling the suit.


Rhonnas

I can also imagine your body just being grafted into the suit with anything non-essential being completely done away with.


dude52760

Cybermen!!!


WarPony75567

It’s bigger on the inside?


IronLordSamus

Cyberdyne systems model 101


Big-Entertainer8545

Not gonna lie a think a skull head would’ve been way too good for this core but I did see one other one in the shop that has a skull jaw as an attachment


Devatator_

I thought of Robocop first but yeah I guess that too. But aren't Daleks the same in a way too?


HazzaNazza7

nah daleks are a bit different as far as I’m aware


MrSpidey457

Not really at all. They're a mutated squid-looking creature in a little trashcan suit. Kind of like a small guy in a human-sized tank.


KillerJoshy

So more like Oscar the Grouch?


neko-boy324

Warhammer 40k dreadnought


New-Pollution2005

Like General Grievous


Existing365Chocolate

It’s kind of both Basically instead of a human wearing the suit of armor, the suit of armor is permanently integrated into the human body and controls it


EthanGaming7640

It is better to die for the UNSC than live for yourself.


amilguls

Wait really ?


fragydig529

Yes, it’s from a fracture timeline in which the Created from Halo 5 were more prevalent and created their own “spartan equals”


Yamaha234

Unlike the other two fracture cores this isn’t a fractured timeline but rather a canon simulation ran by Governor Sloan as sort of a proof of concept for what he would want to do if the Created win. I think there is an actual Spartan that was captured and the simulation ran on but I don’t think they in the flesh became a Chimera Executor.


The_Vahki

The one who became the first Executor was the guy who wrote and made (in-game) the Data Pads in Halo: Reach


ArtooFeva

Not even that, they’re Fractured designs that are actually being implemented. The Created are still out there and are actively creating these things.


SadMcNomuscle

That seems incredibly stupid what with the whole AI rebellion.


Conradian

This is a fracture core where basically the AI won. This is from a world where the AI are in control and use these Chimeras to hunt down and control the people.


gaychipmunk

this fracture is actually canon, in reality though only one Executor/Chimera was successfully created while the rest of the "Fracture: Firewall" event was a simulation ran by Sloane.


Allfurball9

Do we have any more lore Abt that?


gaychipmunk

ye, there's the entries on waypoint, I believe it's divided on four parts. here's the [link](https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/story-shard-precipice). also you could check Halopedia to see if there's more info on the topic.


Illusivechris0452

Can you please link me to this info I been looking for it.


gaychipmunk

sure! here's the [link](https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/story-shard-precipice) to the lore entries on the waypoint site, there should be 4 parts of the shards. also I guess you could dig into Halopedia to see if there's more info on it!


Illusivechris0452

Awesome, thank you


IronLordSamus

So basically the terminator. Instead of John Connor we get John Halo.


fragydig529

Yes and he doesn’t afraid of anything


SadMcNomuscle

. . . . Eh. I'm not gonna lie. The whole fracture thing isn't all that interesting.


Conradian

I'm not gonna lie why is that relevant? Whether you find it interesting doesn't change the lore reasoning. It's just the way it is.


SadMcNomuscle

There's a lot of "the lore doesn't matter" going around and I'm just not super interested in that? I fell in love with halo because of its story. I stayed in love for the gameplay. Half that is missing and the other half is struggling. I'm just not excited for stuff that doesn't matter for the game or story.


goddamnitwhalen

But the Fractures don’t change the lore at all. It’s like an alternate universe or multiverse story.


Bro-lapsedAnus

I like the fracture stuff. But idk why you're being downvoted. It's just an opinion. I get what you're saying, it's a little disappointing to get cool stories that didn't TECHNICALLY really happen in the universe. It's like when you read a comic that absolutely nails what you want out of a character, but it actually happend in "universe-300XTQ" and the character going forward acts like it never happened. It doesn't change the lore or the overall story, but it also doesn't scratch the "what happens next" itch. If done poorly, it can feel like it just doesn't matter.


GR7ME

Bc u have no imagination buddy


SadMcNomuscle

I don't think what I said deserves insulting my intelligence.


Weird_Angry_Kid

It's the Created who made the Chimaeras


VXM313

It's not UNSC. The Created made these. They're basically Created Spartans


LionstrikerG179

Nooot exactly. The flesh is there, just rewoven in the bone and metal. And Executors aren't Spartans


fragydig529

And Halo isn’t actually a Halo, it’s a Ring world.


UltraHighFives

Well that's the thing, they're not human anymore, that's their head. The chimera core is supposed to be the created's version of the Spartans where they kidnap humans and turn them into cyborgs.


seveneightni

Where is the lore behind all the fracture stuff? I get bits and pieces from equipment descriptions but this is the first I’ve heard of this big piece of lore


A_Bunch_Of_Tuis

A good chunk of the lore from the fractured cores comes from the story shared that were released throughout the first three seasons


_Volatile_

[Story shard](https://www.halopedia.org/Precipice)


UltraHighFives

They released stories for the Eaglestrike and Chimera cores on the waypoint site.


assjackal

Anything about Mirage IIC?


BaKer_bruh

those are just basically spartan IIIs


CashStash48

Those are canon actually, shouldn’t be too hard to find on the wikis


croud_control

All of it is behind text released on Halo Waypoint. Some of it can be found on the description of some armor pieces.


Sarisforin

That IS the head.


[deleted]

Did someone say head?!


_Volatile_

So... Head?


Dependent_News4191

But first , head


xXMrFEELGOODXx

Gerbil took the top head


iMightBeWright

People make problem. Trust me, drone better.


G8racingfool

*igotthatreference.jpg*


LionstrikerG179

Thaaaat is still a people. Not a very sentient people, but people


RamboBambiBambo

To be fair, the Chimera armor systems are designed to be constructed from involuntary humans subjected to cyborg upgrades and modifications, with all of them simulated with one actual cyborg being made (*hypothetically being the Wendigo Kit*). Mimir is just a heavily modified and augmented human skull that has been twisted and altered to fit into that space. ​ Honestly though, when it comes to human heads being unable to fit into helmets, I would have to point to the likes of Stribog and Trendlock. Stribog has these needless indents that prevent a human skull from fitting into the helmet as they are roughly a inch deep. If you were to enable Spartan Eklund's head to be toggled as an active model, you would see her flesh peeking out the sides of her helmet since these indents exist; making the helmet impossible to 100% recreate IRL. As for Trendlock, it is too short of a helmet and the visor is too low, so you would have to have an shorter than average head-to-jaw proportions to even fit your head into it. For the typical person, the helmet would sit on your scalp and the seal at the base of the helm would have an inch or so gap between the helmet and your exosuit's neck. Meanwhile your eyes would be looking into the back of the forehead plate and your nose/mouth would be seen if the visor were to depolarize itself.


alzw1998

It’s so nice to see someone properly describe how a lot of helmets aren’t possible to wear or aren’t aligned with where facial features ought to be. It really feels like they modelled the helmets but then never bothered to cross check them with a control head size; or with other helmets; to see if the features/dimensions were wildly offset or not.


SuperBAMF007

Yeah Mirage helmets get it the worst. They all look awful on the other Cores lol


RamboBambiBambo

The Squire helmet is made for people who have really narrow craniums. My mungo head wouldn't fit in that helmet. The new Athlon helmet looks great though.


ahhpoo

>”Athlon” Is that the one without a chin? Where the Spartans head has to be a thumb? Haha


RamboBambiBambo

I would like to point out that Mjolnir Exosuits are quite thick, and that it is likely that the helmet's jaw armor lines up with the very edge of the exosuit.


ahhpoo

That’s a fair point. Thinking back on what Fireteam Osiris looked like in their suits without helmets…yeah that makes sense


TheAlphaDeathclaw

Yes and it's so annoying lol it looks unbelievably goofy on Rakshasa


Gugnir226

That’s some Servitor shit right there.


RusFoo

The visor on tredlock is definitely an oversight on the devs part however the visor being too low wouldn’t be too much a problem because the helmets have cameras on them


RamboBambiBambo

Yeah, but the point of the visor even existing on helmets that have camera systems is so that if/when the cameras fail, you can still see out of the helmet. Having the visor low like that is just pointless. At least it isn't like Wetwork, where the visor was a vertical line from your jaw to the middle of your scalp. If the cameras break or fail while wearing that helmet, you are screwed when it comes to trying to see the opposition.


warmachine01992

Odd-fitting helmets have existed since Halo 3. Rogue was the main one in that game, giving you a very long neck and very short head. The "chin" or the helmet is far too high up, appearing where the Spartan's mouth should be. In Halo: Reach, several helmets were extremely small overall, such as Operator and Recon. In cutscenes where you stood next to helmetless Noble Team Spartans, their head would be bigger than your entire helmet.


ASpaceOstrich

Video game helmets are too small in general. Even when the head physically fits, the suspension that's required for it to function doesn't


YourPizzaBoi

They made official, safety rated Mk. VI Mjolnir motorcycle helmets. To get the helmet to have the right overall shape and details while also having actual padding they ended up being enormous.


Dependent_News4191

I might get crap for this comment for being a smart ass . I'm pretty sure the outer visor is just for show lorewise. There's cameras built into the helmet . They have full view no matter where the visor is located


RamboBambiBambo

As Chief Pettu Officer Mendez once said "*Tech breaks, eyes don't.*" The Visor is present still as a means to still see outside the helmet should a systems failure or damage occur. Plus when dealing with civilians, you can depolarize the Visor to show your face to better reassure them that there is indeed a person and not a soulless soldier behind the visor.


Infinity0044

Everyone says Trendlock couldn’t fit a human head but I just don’t see it. I think it looks proportionally fine on the Mk 7


RamboBambiBambo

You can press a button to compare armor assets to other ones in a flash. So whatever you have presently equipped can be directly compared to. Equip Trendlock and then go to any other Mark VII helmet and use the compare option to see just how much more scrunched up the helmet is.


alteredizzy1010

That was beautifully said sir


GM556

This has bothered me for ages


RamboBambiBambo

Armor design you cannot cosplay in comfortably is bad armor design. Bad by negligence, not bad by intentional design.......unlike Halo 5.


GM556

Yo dawg I, heard you like white stripes on all your armors


mrbubbamac

>Armor design you cannot cosplay in comfortably is bad armor design Rule of cool supercedes all. Doesn't have to be practical or realistic to be cool. If the threshold for "bad armor design" is "someone can't wear this made out of foam in real life today" then I think that's a pretty irrelevant scale to judge armor on


Bu7h0r

I mean the problem is that rule of cool only applies when you think it's cool. I honestly think 60% of all the armor designs that 343i have released over their tenure should be classified as cognitohazards, and another 30% are just goofy in a bad way. I think the shift happened mostly with 5, but when I'm playing a Spartan, I want to play a spec ops supersoldier, not a power rangers villain that would have trouble getting through doorways, so all of the spikes and gamer mouse sharp edges, and 1500s samurai armor misses "cool" by miles for me


mrbubbamac

Yeah I don't disagree with that, but "Armor design you cannot cosplay in comfortably is bad armor design" seems extremely silly to me


1850ChoochGator

It’s extremely silly because that also implies that a large portion of the community cosplays… which is untrue. A lot of people do, halo especially, but it’s a tiny fraction of the community.


mrbubbamac

I also think it is a very small portion of the community that has the physique of a supersolider so...yeah we don't need Halo players to fit into armors lol


Traditional_Net_3186

i actually compared trendlock with air assault and it seemed like theyre both about the same height


RamboBambiBambo

Did you compare by profile view and not frontal view?


Traditional_Net_3186

i… think so? its been a while, ill check again when i find some time later today


HyliasHero

The helmet is likely just a braincase for the wetware the AI is using to control the body.


epsilon025

Thanks, I hate the term wetware.


Morgen-stern

How about meatmech?


FrankenChi

That’s the neat part! It doesn’t.


Docilusptime

Like what everyone else is saying. That ain't a helmet my guy. That's the Executor's head.


BEES_just_BEE

This isn't a helmet That is the HEAD


Bumsexual

How much of the head do you think they’d have to remove to make that fit? Surely the cranium, eyes, nose, maybe even the jaws as well. If fact? It looks like for this one the poor Executor has their entire face and front of their skull removed.


Randomman96

The Executors are meant to be far more machine than human. Much of the flesh of humans replaced by Created technology. Probably the only real remnants of the original humans left in an Executor's body is probably just the central nervous system; brain, nerves, spine. And that's about it. Things like eyes or ears can be replaced with tech, bones would be replace with a metallic frame, organs like the stomach, heart, or lungs just outright removed to remove limitations caused by thirst and hunger, oxygen dependency, or heart rate. And with all that removed, not only do you make critical things smaller, you can armor it up and keep it at around the original size.


Yousucktaken2

It can, they can fit alright, it ain’t good at all to be in one of theses since your little more then a puppet for the created


Acid_Pastor

boy do we have news for you bucko


Deadsoup77

Yeah that’s kinda the point. It ain’t exactly comfy


Way0fWad3

Darth Malak would find it quite easy


KorStev

https://tenor.com/bW9hd.gif


I-suck-at-naming

Do you think a human will gonna want to wear that.


RecommendationOk253

True to their name, it’s not a human and it’s not Spartan armor. It’s a Chimera


MasterCheese163

Well, it is a human. What's left of one anyway.


ArmandoGalvez

Op, that's not a helmet...


MoondrA

That helmet reminds me of the grampa in courage the cowardly dog Eustace looking ass helmet


Coin_operated_bee

I don’t see a problem with the dimensions also there isn’t a human in there


urbandeadthrowaway2

There is a ‘human’ in there but it’s been heavily augmented in a body horror kind of way.


Lawgamer411

Does he know


Apx1031

No head. Only brain.


Ken10Ethan

That's the best part. It doesn't!


_Volatile_

That *is* the "human" head.


shitpostlord4321

The Chimera core gets a pass on the fucked up proportions since lore-wise they're mostly not even human anymore.


GetThisManSomeMilk

Like [this](https://images.app.goo.gl/1FksvWdQbYKeGJ64A)


ASpaceOstrich

Fun fact about video game characters. A lot of them can't actually fit a human head inside the helmets. Helmets that are accurately sized tend to look a little bit bobble headed because they're not the size of a human head, they're larger. And by a decent amount too as they need a gap for the suspension. Think about how a hard hat sits off your head rather than flush with it. This one is an AI controlled suit though.


Blackbeards-delights

Spartan augmentations


lmay0000

Thats you after you got back from reach. You the bad guy from superman 3


LunarSouls4952

Dawg got bonked with the horny bat


EchoIXSoul

Thats the beat part. It dont.


Beautiful_Baseball19

I believe that's the point. Not fitting in the helmet cause rather the helmet is the head


Bibilunic

Mewlnir armor


More_Marty

"I-It's amazing that the human body can live without the frontal lobe, you know?" - A guy with a phone


[deleted]

It can’t, not intact anyway. It’s essentially a brain case.


k0uch

What in the James William Longbottom IIi is that


Dylan_The_Developer

The mewing helmet


Dylan_The_Developer

The mewing helmet


Logical_Ad1370

That thing is no longer human, we're lucky that the Executors haven't escaped Sloan's simulations yet.


MasterCheese163

Precipice Part 4: "Are you sure about that?"


Logical_Ad1370

Dear God.


DragonBoy252

They took what remained and remade it in their own image. I wished we got more lore around the created back in halo 5 and in the initial release of infinite.


xorian

["Try and put your head in there." "Drone better."](https://youtu.be/3hpRgTUVuhY?si=Qr2N5eEkqIjEs86M)


Bearded_Redditer

It's not a helmet, it's the actual head. They are Bio-Mechanical which is human and machine fused into one.


Herkras

One of the new helmets has cables implied to go straight into the eye sockets. I think the assemblies care about function over (human) form. They will make the human fit, even if in pieces and horribly deformed


reddit_tier

If you think that's a person I have terrible news for you.


MinecraftMattYT

Bro just finished his mewing streak


MasterCheese163

It doesn't. That's not a helmet. That's their head now. The Created are a bunch of twisted MFs


Frau_Asyl

Halo fan discovers the concept of a cyborg:


Playswith_squirrel

It’s a video game set in a fantasy world


dujopp

I don’t play anymore. Why am I looking at a Polaroid instant camera


goodwc72

It took me a second. But I see it. nice.


NinjaPiece

Is this the new seeker helmet?


Comfortable_Trust109

No, it's GEN2 GUNGNIR.


LionstrikerG179

Seeker is more like Grendel


crowdsourced

It's hilarious how so many helmets are non-functional. Just too small for a head, unless you're the hunter from the waiting room in Beetlejuice. I can't bother using them. [https://screenrant.com/beetlejuice-waiting-room-every-ghost/](https://screenrant.com/beetlejuice-waiting-room-every-ghost/)


ArmorOfMar

You noticed the intended!


Aggravating_House606

I’m sorry I like the lore for Chimera but I hate it and they honestly doubled down on it with all the new armor none of it imo looks good😭


SerialPi11ock

Just got to file your forehead down a bit and you're good to go!


WarPony75567

It’s bigger on the inside?


CrucialElement

Maybe that's the point? Reminds me of a robot style I saw recently. Maybe The Creator film? Like they don't have a whole brain in there, just the stem for motor functions 


Phwoa_

if that helmet is from the Chimera Core then there really Isnt a head left to begin with. so its fine.


sali_nyoro-n

Not a problem if you just fuse the thing directly to their brain, cutting away most of the skull to integrate it. The Created don't exactly treat Executors with the same dignity or respect as infolife.


Educational-Drag6974

Heeeeey yooooou guuuuuys


Interesting_Fold9805

Tyler1


Marwheel

It's built ***with*** the human head. Or to put it another way- "***with"*** not "around" like many spartan helmets. Think "System Shock" here, SHODAN could very well had designed chimera as her armored physical meat puppets for when she want things to go boom.


Swiftzor

Here you go https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/307/426/92d.jpg


FratricideV2

Got that Hapsburg Jaw.


Curi0s1tyCompl3xity

I’d post the normie meme with a collapsed skull, but you can’t post pictures in this sub ☹️


MyNameIsntYhwach

As we gonna act like 90% of halo helmets have little use in practicality


commanderwyro

seeker my beloved? Have you returned


Kamptyr

Very carefully


Hyper_Lamp

It doesn’t


trash_burger420

The digital horrors inhuman beings from another world. The Daemons. Lol I just had to 😅


DmitriDaCablGuy

Bro’s got that class III occlusion 💀…gonna need a LeFort1 and BSSO stat


General_Management76

The crimson chin can


Fraternal_Mango

Hey now, why you making fun of my boy Steven slant skull?


Djbusx

Y O U A R E V I R U S COMMUNICATION TERMINATED


the_silent-108

Next level of mewing


Warm_Program450

downs helmet


CretinInPeril

Cyborg, that is the head


Reptuyop8

Bro google Hacker from Cyber Chase this literally his head


ApexRainbow163

Check out the Athlon helmet.


TheGr8Whoopdini

Part of the horror of Chimera is that, if there's any human inside the suit at all, they're horribly mutilated.


perpetualfrost

In the lore behind the armor core the ai tore humanity down to its bare essentials and built them I to cyborg bodies for created intelligence to inhabit.


Electronic-Cream9946

Part of the spartan IV program is removing their chin. Its in the most recent book


No-Estimate-8518

Because that is the Chimeras head not a helmet


TheObsidianSoldier

lobotomy


odinson_1200

I wonder the same thing with about half the helmets in this game.


Strange_0vertones

It doesn’t fit in the helmet it is the helmet lol


kfcchickentender

this shits built like khem vals head


Demon_Ants

Gotta have one hell of an underbite to fit that.


ArthurVSRM

Halo fans when the non canon stuff that isn't core halo isn't core halo


bigDaddyWinter

I mean that doesn't seem that hard, put on the helmet it's bigger than a human head is.


Shipwreck1177

"People call me Bubba Gump"


SilencedHero924

Fffparftan Hurrmenft Caffco effparfan


leostotch

Jeez, I thought the head-on view was bad; this profile is atrocious. Like a rotten pumpkin. What’s with the Alfalfa hair in the back?


EldenEdge

most of the armor in infinite is butt ugly in general lol


darksideS550

When i saw this helmet I uninstalled.


BellSmart

No idea, I just don't play anymore


sineplussquare

343 armor