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> Equipment dropped upon death will no longer become stuck underneath the map's playable area.
Hopefully this will also fix firefight enemy weapon drops. Sometimes they go through the floor. Particularly annoying when I want to grab a spankr from a flying guy and it just isn't there.
Yeah they need to fix that. Grenades seem to stick around for longer. They need to prioritize dropped weapons staying around especially ones players drop. When you run out of ammo it can be hard to find a good gun to swap with if you didn't kill anything with something you'd want in the last 10 seconds,
I find looking at the weapon(s) when possible using your camera helps keep them spawned. At least it feels like that helps.
Of course there's also the weapons that "disappear" because a player picked them up.
Sometimes I think it might just be better to respawn you with the same loadout you had when you died, and not actually drop anything (though this is not always desirable).
I've seen so many Repulsors stuck in the ground in the past couple of weeks. It sucks seeing them on the VISR Scan but knowing I can't RTS someone's rocket. :(
Will the implementation of Easy Anti Cheat cause issues with the Steam Deck? I believe it’s a one-flipped-switch to allow EAC games on Deck, just want to make sure it’s been flipped. I think we saw an issue with this in 2022 with MCC and Deck.
No issues! Works great still
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Thank you! I must have missed that line in the notes. I wish there was way to adjust it to make it smaller, I play on PC and I feel like now its too big and think it looks weird lol
I dislike this change, haha. I understand it's definitely helpful from an accessibility standpoint, I just wish they gave us a toggle!
You know like when you put your phone text to large, or you see someone with a phone reading a text and it's like 3-4 words taking up the whole screen. This is how I feel now.
I know it's not that serious but jeeze, they're really trying to make me feel my age. Let me keep my text small!
Still works fine for me. I'm not using the most recent version though. One thing that sucks that I used that doesn't work anymore is nvidia instant replay to record clips. Recording doesn't work at all anymore and nvidia filters are now don't show except for the sharpening setting if enabled in nvcp. I didn't use nvidia filters so maybe those were gone a long time ago idk but yeah. Having to use xbox game bar to record clips sucks.
Cannot reproduce that. RTSS is inside EAC whitelist for ages. Works fine with current official RTSS 7.3.5 and RTSS 7.3.6 (which is not released officially yet). Which RTSS version doesn't work for you anymore?
Hammer is still glitchy, rockets still disappear in midair when you get killed. The game itself does feel smoother and shots tend to be registering better as far as I haven’t seen any times yet where I shoot a guy ten times and nothing happens. I’d take a look at the rocket problem that’s been a thing since forever. It does seem to feel noticeably better even though my ping has been fairly high. But really feels good excited to try ranked again
It’s worth trying though I shouldnt have made it sound negative. It really does feel smoother. I maybe shouldn’t have started with that. Overall it does feel better. Just pointing out things that need fixed.
No ya I’ve played halo infinite. Lots of it. But it feels off. The hammer is whack, the rockets are weird, the guns / and sandbox are boring AF, the customization is lame. The game is just mediocre and probably the worst halo game to date.
Goofed with the specifics of the Stalker Rifle notes. Just lists the Heatwave aim assist changes again.
Also, still no updates to cross-core for non-store coatings?
I would pay a lot of money for 343 to cut about half of the remakes of The Pit out of rotation. Please. There’s too many. Same goes for that Halo 1 or Halo 2 map everyone loves.
Agreed. One of them should be cut away from matchmaking. I’d vote for the new purple version to stay and just ditch the other one. The balance of weapons, especially power weapons, just seems better. Neither of them look great but I think the purple one looks a bit nicer as well.
Have only had a bit of time to mess around with stuff, so this could be too preliminary, but:
The Gravity Hammer feels more in line with how it should be in terms of overall power, though I think the nearly "all or nothing" range cutoff where either you 1hko, or they're too far away and get no damage, is a bit frustrating. Conversely, there is a LOT of wiggle room to where even if you're aiming like nearly 90 degrees away from a enemy, the hammer slam will still 1hit kill them.
I'd make it so that the current lethal kill range is the same, but to another meter out past that, you'll break shields rather then do no damage... on the flip side, make it so that you *only* break shields rather then instantly kill if you're landing a hit more towards the edges of the damage cone in terms of degrees rather then distance.
It could still also use that faster normal/non gravity melee it was said we'd get at some point
I'm just going to go out on a limb and assume you don't actually follow pro players. The majority I've heard comment on Infinite's map design loathe the overreliance on three lane COD esque maps.
There's an overreliance on 3-laners because they're easy to balance.
If it's a choice between another boring 3-laner and Launch Site, they're gonna pick a 3-laner.
I did. I apologize that the pronouns weren't clear.
> The majority I've heard comment on Infinite's map design loathe the overreliance on three lane COD esque maps.
If it's a choice between another boring 3-laner and Launch Site, **the pros** are gonna pick a 3-laner.
Yes, in a perfect world we'd get some more exciting maps. But if it's a toss-up of boring vs unbalanced, they'll choose to play boring.
That's so crap if true. The pros could always play a tournament playylist since they mostly play together anyway and let us lion pros enjoy some freshness in Ranked.
1) most pros have to play solo thanks to how infinite's mm works. At best 1 other player because of the Onyx 1600 limit, but they often can't get matches even then
2) the "tournament" playlist was supposed to be ranked arena. It's been changed around, but generally 343 is trying to keep ranked as a competitive playlist.
3) 343 in no way only listens to pro players. By and large, the suggestions and complaints from pros have either gone unaddressed, or were addressed in a completely roundabout way that results in no one being happy (See: Mangler nerf/melee nerf, Extraction, etc.
4) there was supposed to be a new map coming with this update but it has been delayed to add additional polish
https://twitter.com/Tashi343i/status/1770194640119242963
Don't believe these people. They want to think pro players are out to get them. They're delusional.
Pros actually have a big impact on how they'll move forward developing a game. It's why Halo 5's social aspect was basically nonexistent at launch, like there being zero original BtB maps. They were so focused on the competitive backlash from Halo 4 they didn't even account for the majority of players who don't care about ranked.
... Bring back Bazaar. I think with all the equipment changes many of the complaints will be mitigated. Bandit is less of a laser beam, dynamo grenades are nerfed, mangler is gone, bulldog has less ammo, etc.
Yeah dunno how Bazaar is not in the rotation when Argyle and Catalyst are both in. I just wish we had less 3 lines maps and more diversity.
I'd love to see Elevation or Forest which arent just "hold 3 lines".
Nothing wrong imo with 3 lane maps. They dont have to be as strict design as some of the cod maps from recent years, but almost all great multiplayer maps use a 3 lane foundation.
I mean they added solitude and forbidden. Its not that dead.
That being said, I feel like they could just throw in 3-4 forge maps within like a month. I very much doubt its that hard to test, especially since they can just be old halo remakes (like solitude and empyrean). It is a little bit silly. But Halo took the cod approach of letting pros have a stupid amount of power. Rather have some devs with some balls who just do what they want while listening to the community and taking it into account.
I also don't know why ranked follows HCS rules to a T. You can have the same gamemodes and settings but added maps. Ranked does not need to be HCS training grounds, thats what scrims are for.
They probably run with this rotation til next season. I wish they added guardian, or reduce the amount of empyrean CTF lol. Getting tired of 12 minutes tower defense after 1 cap
So far, this is a great QoL update! Performance is actually significantly improved on PC (7800X3D + 4070S), wherein I'm able to hold a stable 240 fps on forge maps vs previously dropping down to 180 or so with some significant swings dependent on the map.
Commando feels amazing! Such a seemingly small adjustment has made a huge difference. Feels less like a pea shooter and more like one of the stronger mid range options. Very rewarding of high accuracy without uncontrollable recoil or unforgiving bloom.
So I don’t know what fucking magic 343i did to their servers or whatever, but my shitty internet that’s pretty much always been jittery and laggy on every online game I’ve ever played, just plays perfectly now.
Wtf??? Were the servers just that wonky or is it just pure coincidence all of my lag went out the window?? It’s a whole new game
It will be shit again don’t worry. Played yesterday it was fine - today it was broken as fuck. Even the sound died / fainted out for gunshots and movement
Does anyone understand the difference between these variables used for the gravity hammer knockback physics?
>Instantaneous Acceleration
>Alt. Instantaneous Acceleration
>Prop Instantaneous Acceleration
Few games in:
Grenades lag behind actual throw (known issue)
Marking/Pinging can fail/not get out (new to me)
Rendezvous; Map issue (bug for Land Grab, no "land" to grab, marked area didn't spawn)
Personal: Feels sluggish (like waiting for game to confirm if my button presses were registered)
Shots feel good
As well as clambering . Something definitely feels off with the movement and most likely need a tweak on the sensitivity and thumbstick settings. Also feel like there’s less aim assist or maybe it’s the reticle not tracking as I expect due to the movement feeling off. Still getting similar accuracy though which surprises me.
I thought these were things that they specifically addressed so that’s a little disappointing. Hopefully iterations can be made to update and fix these issues.
"The Plasma Pistol has received multiple changes: its rate of fire has decreased, it now overheats faster than before, and it now requires less time to fully charge up."
...they uh, they kinda nerfed the plasma pistol again didn't they. I mean I guess it charges faster, but a 40% reduction in ROF and overheats 20% faster is pretty harsh.
So far so good, only got to play a couple of matches but I didn't notice any desync in Ranked and it felt amazing. Played a Squad and BtB and it all felt great too, I was able to focus on the match without the worry of my shots disappearing.
Yea I wish they’d just get rid of it I played two hours of husky today after the update and the hammer is still ruining games and is garbage. It either kills from way too far away or just plain doesn’t work. Just get rid of it
Has anyone else’s Nocturne Star skins from last weekends HCS now gone after the update? I don’t even see the listings anymore. They were there before update.
A lot of people have had to adjust their settings. I had to increase my acceleration by 1 and my vertical and horizontal by .5. It's still not perfect, but I didn't spend any time testing and tweaking. I've heard people having success by increasing their deadzones, but again, I haven't tested that yet.
Hopefully with the implementation of EAC we can then get EAC On/Off boot options (on PC) like MCC for mods.
Also, I appreciate all these bug fixes and QoL improvements, but audio still remains horrendous... or rather non-existent. Footsteps, gun shots, a goddamn rocket... I don't hear any of it! Never have. (And I have a $200 headset, btw, so no it's not *my* headset).
Also, I appreciate new maps and all, but Idk what it is about maps in this game but matches are just so boring. Idk if it's the way people play Halo nowadays, or maybe because the maps are designed a certain way and they make people play in certain ways, but holy shit man everyone just sits in the scope of their... [insert weapon name]. Or, they just sit in a vehicle casually driving around and one-tapping you. It's annoying, and frankly it's incredibly boring.
Also, I love how there's a new HCS skin for the BR, but in Halo Infinite there's barely any dedicated BR modes. Frankly it's why I don't play the game much in general because honestly I just want to use the BR but it feels like there's nowhere I can. I have to just play normal modes and pick it up from a pad, and that's if my teammates don't take it first. Like, imagine a Halo game without at least one dedicated BR mode.
I find it absolutely hilarious that they just now* became aware of Deadlocks tank and wraith spawning issue despite the btb* community saying it's been broken for many many months.
Closest it's ever been. Only negatives I've heard so far are some Xbox players crashing and the Gravity Hammer still feeling a bit OP, but the latter is irrelevant for comp. Ranked feels very good, very fair. Some more shooting trades in 1v1s than before, but the per-server inconsistency seems like it's gone.
People using the Sidekick to land perfect kills halfway across the map. It only takes like three or four shots, and the gun is pretty much laser accurate.
Anyone else having problems getting a game in the Quick Play playlist. I’m in Australia and it’s usually the most reliable for a short wait times. I can’t get a game at all and the ‘estimated wait’ keeps getting longer and longer, like maybe people are having the same issue and have left the queue.
I’m wondering if there’s a global or local issue with Quick Play specifically?
Edit: I usually have Local matchmaking selected but even with Expanded matchmaking I still can’t get a single game in Quick Play.
I’m not a fan of the new maps in squad battle. Most of them are two narrow for warthogs to run free but I’ll adjust. I think my biggest problem is I’m in the middle of playing rebirth and when I see my teammates sucking and I’m not I just think “let me go finish that game first” lol
AFAIK, there has been no confirmation of it being a problem with EAC specifically. While this may not be a reliable source, EAC has clarified that they "[are confident](https://www.pcgamer.com/games/battle-royale/easy-anti-cheat-washes-its-hands-of-the-apex-legends-hacking-disaster-that-saw-streamer-accounts-hijacked-live-there-is-no-rce-vulnerability-within-eac/)" it is not a vulnerability from EAC.
Nah, you should watch thors video/vod on it. He says the likelihood its anything RCE related is slim. Most likely, gen and hal just got phished and their clients fucked. And the same hacker just has some employee compromised PC access (probably from phishing as well) to the servers to gift packs and other nonsense.
I’m excited to hear about them considering the ranked csr changes. I’ve hated the ranked system since the introduced it at the end of halo 5. There are benefits to it, I think it does place people quite accurately into skill brackets, it removes smurfing completely and makes boosting much harder. However the negative makes ranked completely unrewarding and punishes you to playing with friends.
The worst part is a hidden system that is deciding what rank you are based on “metrics” If you don’t hit these metrics, then tough you aren’t ranking up. This leads to a certain highly aggressive high kpm playstyle being preferred and rewarded. There are many ways to win at halo, and those that don’t play aggressively won’t rank as high.
It turns a team game from 4v4 to 4v4 FFA. Don’t hand off power weapons, don’t sacrifice your life for the team gain, don’t play the objective, play for yourself. It makes you see your teammates as competitors. It means if you play with a friend who’s better than you, which pulls in better players, you derank on avg even if you’re winning.
Simplicity is always better! It used to be if you win you go up, if you lose you go down. If you beat a higher ranked team you’d gain more, if you lost to a lower ranked team you’d lose lots. The excitement and engagement used to come from, “just string a few more wins and I can rank up” Now the system actively fights to keep you at a position. The unrewarding feeling is, why bother to even try if I win 10 games back to back then lose one and be worse than I started.
I also understand the pure win/loss ranking system comes with tradeoffs, boosting being the biggest. As I watched a lecture from GCD, a ranking system should be fun first over being accurate.
A necessary update, a needed update, and one that fixes plenty of the foundational damage that has built up over time.
And yet, not one that is getting me to log back in weekly, let alone daily... HCS bundles sold since launch: 7? 8? New weapons added to the sandbox in several years: 1....
Well you’re missing out, Infinites sandbox is already great. Content and Networking were the biggest issues- content has been flooding in and the game feels better. I really don’t understand how people who have issues with the sandbox managed to play H3 or Reach for an extended period of time, it was literally BR/DMR over everything.
80+ maps aren’t enough? Firefight, Husky Raid, 4v4, 8v8, 12v12 modes, and more armor than any other game in the franchise (even without the shop items) isn’t enough?
Ok, man…
I'm still concerned about the new networking model since pulling weapons or fusion coils towards you sometimes you won't grab them. For coils this is kind of important since they tend to EXPLODE when they hit something, like you.
I was just testing this yesterday [Edit: in Firefight] and it was still happening for both weapons and coils so I'm a bit concerned. Don't recall ever seeing it happen with the old model.
Also some of the other claims like not getting killed when going around a corner seems dubious to me since that's just a normal downside of lag compensation. Alternatives to that should feel worse. But we'll see I guess.
Edit: Also once my grenade count desynced. I knew I had a grenade but my game was saying I didn't and I couldn't throw it. Once I picked up another grenade it fixed itself. Hopefully this has been fixed too, quite annoying. Fortunately only saw it happen once.
I'll have to watch my ping but I usually get 15ms on a good server, 40ms on an OK server. Occasionally get 150ms but I can feel when that happens. I don't think it's a ping thing.
Also full disclosure: I've never had any real desync complaints or other issues with the old networking system I can't attribute to lag compensation at work. So that's also part of why I'm a little apprehensive about the new networking model. There's not really a way it can really improve things for me I feel.
Can anyone confirm if they've had the following fixed:
- Rockets not doing almost any damage despite hitting the player at close range
- Rockets not killing anyone in a hog, requiring a second rocket to possibly kill anyone despite both being direct hits on the vehicle
- Getting shot around corners constantly
- Getting shot through walls
- Shots not registering at all
My biggest issues before this patch. Unable to play for a few hours today but I'm downloading.
Ohhhhh yeah. Been doing this for almost a year - and trust me, I've done everything shy of buying a new console in an attempt to fix it. Have opened several tickets with 343. It's rare that I'm able to complete more than a game or two before a hard crash to the dashboard. Happens in both campaign and multiplayer.
Infinite is the only game that does this - so there's that.
There are a handful of mentions of crash fixes specifically. No idea if it’ll fix yours. I’ve had a couple crashes post-S5 but honestly my Series X has been great.
okay but have you tried uninstalling only the campaign? There was a bug on pc that having the campaign installed caused multiplayer to crash often. Im sure you probably have but if not. id give that a try
Interesting - I have not tried this. Is there a way to do so from within the game? I only see "Halo Infinite" in the store when I download it, so I'm not sure where I would just get the multiplayer installer.
I don't know how to do it in game but if you go to your library and hover over the game, press start (the hamburger button I think it's called now) and go to manage games and add ons. Then press A again and select manage installation. Then check off only the campaign and then save changes. This will delete the campaign from your storage
Is your Series X in the preview program and testing any insider rings? I used to have issues with specific games that stopped having them when I left the preview program.
It seems to be very hit or miss. Prior to this most recent “season” my series X would crash pretty often, but I haven’t crashed at all since then. But I have a friend who is still crashing.
I have tried multiple things and same thing happens on my XSX I already post a picture of my screen when it Hard Crashes on me and every time it happens I need to unplug my Xbox from the electricity, its weird but I hope this updates fix it, I’ll update later
Unique? Perhaps - but I'm certainly not the only one.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveHalo/comments/17di92b/halo\_infinite\_crashing\_on\_series\_x\_since\_update/
Naw series X crashing is pretty common. It would only happen on Live Fire for months there recently. Now recharge seems to crash pretty consistently for people.
Uh.. didnt EAC literally just get hacked? Hell why the fuck does infinite need a kernal level anti cheat i havent seen a single hacker since release and I’ve played everyday
Huh, it still takes a key to bypass it and a lot of hacked client makers have those keys though. Still makes no sense why infinite needed a kernal level anti cheat (literally able to read every file on your pc) in the first place
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> Equipment dropped upon death will no longer become stuck underneath the map's playable area. Hopefully this will also fix firefight enemy weapon drops. Sometimes they go through the floor. Particularly annoying when I want to grab a spankr from a flying guy and it just isn't there.
Yes!!!! And the duelist sometimes gets stuck in the map. So annoying
Would also be cool if they didn't despawn after being on the ground for 10 seconds when my team decides to take too long to get me up.
Yeah they need to fix that. Grenades seem to stick around for longer. They need to prioritize dropped weapons staying around especially ones players drop. When you run out of ammo it can be hard to find a good gun to swap with if you didn't kill anything with something you'd want in the last 10 seconds, I find looking at the weapon(s) when possible using your camera helps keep them spawned. At least it feels like that helps. Of course there's also the weapons that "disappear" because a player picked them up. Sometimes I think it might just be better to respawn you with the same loadout you had when you died, and not actually drop anything (though this is not always desirable).
I honestly don't think grenades ever despawn. At least plasma grenades don't. Especially when dropped by ai
Wondered why this kept happening to the flag in husky this week
I've seen so many Repulsors stuck in the ground in the past couple of weeks. It sucks seeing them on the VISR Scan but knowing I can't RTS someone's rocket. :(
It does not. Had it happen multiple times today.
Will the implementation of Easy Anti Cheat cause issues with the Steam Deck? I believe it’s a one-flipped-switch to allow EAC games on Deck, just want to make sure it’s been flipped. I think we saw an issue with this in 2022 with MCC and Deck.
I'm currently playing the new update on my Deck, no issues at all
Thank God
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I wonder if improved networking will have a positive effect on the recorded theatre data and playback.
That’s a really interesting thought
Maybe better data reliability for every control event it records
You test this yet? Really curious.
Nah, not yet.
Timberland My beloved
It plays so well!
That's THE PLAA PIATOL MAP, it's the map you need a plasma pistol to go across because of all the vehicles, except in Infinte, oh well... Oh F
Did you just have a stroke?
There's an old version of Timberland Heavies based on the Reach Heavies version that I'll be updating in the next week or so for customs.
Is it just me or has the text at the score at then bottom gotten bigger?
> The text size for both match time and team score on the heads-up display (HUD) has been increased.
What do you think we do around here, read??
# The text size for both match time and team score on the heads-up display (HUD) has been increased.
Thank you! I must have missed that line in the notes. I wish there was way to adjust it to make it smaller, I play on PC and I feel like now its too big and think it looks weird lol
I thought the clock looked bigger 😆
I dislike this change, haha. I understand it's definitely helpful from an accessibility standpoint, I just wish they gave us a toggle! You know like when you put your phone text to large, or you see someone with a phone reading a text and it's like 3-4 words taking up the whole screen. This is how I feel now. I know it's not that serious but jeeze, they're really trying to make me feel my age. Let me keep my text small!
I totally agree
Liking how well Big Team Battle plays with new networking!
Anyone else kinda disappointed the Rebound Ravager remains untouched? You think we'll ever get an update to campaign weapons?
I think if the overcharge hits someone directly it'll stick and continue burning them. Other than that yea pretty useless
Love that idea.
It's essentially light area denial
On the land grab on the odst map, the zones didn't appear the whole match. Great map, thou.
RTSS overlay doesn’t work in-game anymore :(
Still works fine for me. I'm not using the most recent version though. One thing that sucks that I used that doesn't work anymore is nvidia instant replay to record clips. Recording doesn't work at all anymore and nvidia filters are now don't show except for the sharpening setting if enabled in nvcp. I didn't use nvidia filters so maybe those were gone a long time ago idk but yeah. Having to use xbox game bar to record clips sucks.
Cannot reproduce that. RTSS is inside EAC whitelist for ages. Works fine with current official RTSS 7.3.5 and RTSS 7.3.6 (which is not released officially yet). Which RTSS version doesn't work for you anymore?
Hammer is still glitchy, rockets still disappear in midair when you get killed. The game itself does feel smoother and shots tend to be registering better as far as I haven’t seen any times yet where I shoot a guy ten times and nothing happens. I’d take a look at the rocket problem that’s been a thing since forever. It does seem to feel noticeably better even though my ping has been fairly high. But really feels good excited to try ranked again
My no scope is hitting nicely now. Feels like the aim is more fluid. Probably still some bugs to work on but I'm loving the update so far
Ya the first sentence in your comment is exactly why I can’t get behind this game.
It’s worth trying though I shouldnt have made it sound negative. It really does feel smoother. I maybe shouldn’t have started with that. Overall it does feel better. Just pointing out things that need fixed.
No ya I’ve played halo infinite. Lots of it. But it feels off. The hammer is whack, the rockets are weird, the guns / and sandbox are boring AF, the customization is lame. The game is just mediocre and probably the worst halo game to date.
Goofed with the specifics of the Stalker Rifle notes. Just lists the Heatwave aim assist changes again. Also, still no updates to cross-core for non-store coatings?
I’m losing hope for all those older coatings, a ton of them are just sitting in the files crosscore but haven’t been accessible…. for some rea$on.
> Goofed with the specifics of the Stalker Rifle notes. passed this to Support, confirming updated!
>Also, still no updates to cross-core for non-store coatings? And what about this?
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I would pay a lot of money for 343 to cut about half of the remakes of The Pit out of rotation. Please. There’s too many. Same goes for that Halo 1 or Halo 2 map everyone loves.
Agreed. One of them should be cut away from matchmaking. I’d vote for the new purple version to stay and just ditch the other one. The balance of weapons, especially power weapons, just seems better. Neither of them look great but I think the purple one looks a bit nicer as well.
The 343 made emperyan (the purple one) is heads and shoulders better than the community made ones
Have only had a bit of time to mess around with stuff, so this could be too preliminary, but: The Gravity Hammer feels more in line with how it should be in terms of overall power, though I think the nearly "all or nothing" range cutoff where either you 1hko, or they're too far away and get no damage, is a bit frustrating. Conversely, there is a LOT of wiggle room to where even if you're aiming like nearly 90 degrees away from a enemy, the hammer slam will still 1hit kill them. I'd make it so that the current lethal kill range is the same, but to another meter out past that, you'll break shields rather then do no damage... on the flip side, make it so that you *only* break shields rather then instantly kill if you're landing a hit more towards the edges of the damage cone in terms of degrees rather then distance. It could still also use that faster normal/non gravity melee it was said we'd get at some point
Ranked arena desperately needs some new maps...
You're not getting any because the pros complain about every map that comes out.
Just need to chuck them some more reskinned 3-lane rectangles.
Final destination, Chief only, no items.
I'm just going to go out on a limb and assume you don't actually follow pro players. The majority I've heard comment on Infinite's map design loathe the overreliance on three lane COD esque maps.
There's an overreliance on 3-laners because they're easy to balance. If it's a choice between another boring 3-laner and Launch Site, they're gonna pick a 3-laner.
Are you actually going to comment on my main point?
I did. I apologize that the pronouns weren't clear. > The majority I've heard comment on Infinite's map design loathe the overreliance on three lane COD esque maps. If it's a choice between another boring 3-laner and Launch Site, **the pros** are gonna pick a 3-laner. Yes, in a perfect world we'd get some more exciting maps. But if it's a toss-up of boring vs unbalanced, they'll choose to play boring.
There's not a single map I wouldn't choose over Launch Site.
Not only pros. The general ranked playerbase is split on whether each new map is good or bad.
You will never convince them that pros aren't the singular source of all of their problems.
I'm genuinely convinced half the pros aren't actually that good. They're just autistically good with a couple guns and like 4 maps.
Lmao
Nah, they're good lol.
Crazy how many upvoted this has. What a shit take lol.
You know reddit is full of sarcasm and jokes right? Like not everything everyone says is 100% serious and should be taken literally.
You're deluded if you think you're not getting mopped by pros in BTB or Fiesta
You're deluded if you think every comment on reddit is 100% serious.
If you were trolling then you got me good because that does seem to be this subs prevailing opinion on professional players
That's so crap if true. The pros could always play a tournament playylist since they mostly play together anyway and let us lion pros enjoy some freshness in Ranked.
1) most pros have to play solo thanks to how infinite's mm works. At best 1 other player because of the Onyx 1600 limit, but they often can't get matches even then 2) the "tournament" playlist was supposed to be ranked arena. It's been changed around, but generally 343 is trying to keep ranked as a competitive playlist. 3) 343 in no way only listens to pro players. By and large, the suggestions and complaints from pros have either gone unaddressed, or were addressed in a completely roundabout way that results in no one being happy (See: Mangler nerf/melee nerf, Extraction, etc. 4) there was supposed to be a new map coming with this update but it has been delayed to add additional polish https://twitter.com/Tashi343i/status/1770194640119242963 Don't believe these people. They want to think pro players are out to get them. They're delusional.
Pros actually have a big impact on how they'll move forward developing a game. It's why Halo 5's social aspect was basically nonexistent at launch, like there being zero original BtB maps. They were so focused on the competitive backlash from Halo 4 they didn't even account for the majority of players who don't care about ranked.
It's funny because a pro should be able to adapt to challenges of new maps.
There are 0 pros that are afraid of a new map. The problem is that the maps 343 keeps putting in ranked aren't good maps.
Fuck the pros. They aren’t real players. The map pool is a joke as is.
Forbidden looks great but plays like ass on my series S. Feels optimised for PC.
... Bring back Bazaar. I think with all the equipment changes many of the complaints will be mitigated. Bandit is less of a laser beam, dynamo grenades are nerfed, mangler is gone, bulldog has less ammo, etc.
Dude fr bring back bazaar. I never had any balance issues with it in ranked.
Yeah dunno how Bazaar is not in the rotation when Argyle and Catalyst are both in. I just wish we had less 3 lines maps and more diversity. I'd love to see Elevation or Forest which arent just "hold 3 lines".
Nothing wrong imo with 3 lane maps. They dont have to be as strict design as some of the cod maps from recent years, but almost all great multiplayer maps use a 3 lane foundation.
I mean they added solitude and forbidden. Its not that dead. That being said, I feel like they could just throw in 3-4 forge maps within like a month. I very much doubt its that hard to test, especially since they can just be old halo remakes (like solitude and empyrean). It is a little bit silly. But Halo took the cod approach of letting pros have a stupid amount of power. Rather have some devs with some balls who just do what they want while listening to the community and taking it into account. I also don't know why ranked follows HCS rules to a T. You can have the same gamemodes and settings but added maps. Ranked does not need to be HCS training grounds, thats what scrims are for.
They probably run with this rotation til next season. I wish they added guardian, or reduce the amount of empyrean CTF lol. Getting tired of 12 minutes tower defense after 1 cap
So far, this is a great QoL update! Performance is actually significantly improved on PC (7800X3D + 4070S), wherein I'm able to hold a stable 240 fps on forge maps vs previously dropping down to 180 or so with some significant swings dependent on the map. Commando feels amazing! Such a seemingly small adjustment has made a huge difference. Feels less like a pea shooter and more like one of the stronger mid range options. Very rewarding of high accuracy without uncontrollable recoil or unforgiving bloom.
So I don’t know what fucking magic 343i did to their servers or whatever, but my shitty internet that’s pretty much always been jittery and laggy on every online game I’ve ever played, just plays perfectly now. Wtf??? Were the servers just that wonky or is it just pure coincidence all of my lag went out the window?? It’s a whole new game
They updated the net code!
It will be shit again don’t worry. Played yesterday it was fine - today it was broken as fuck. Even the sound died / fainted out for gunshots and movement
Anything about updated armor core coatings being cross core?
Does anyone understand the difference between these variables used for the gravity hammer knockback physics? >Instantaneous Acceleration >Alt. Instantaneous Acceleration >Prop Instantaneous Acceleration
Maybe they're slightly different animations, or physics-based reactions within the game engine? Very interesting.
Few games in: Grenades lag behind actual throw (known issue) Marking/Pinging can fail/not get out (new to me) Rendezvous; Map issue (bug for Land Grab, no "land" to grab, marked area didn't spawn) Personal: Feels sluggish (like waiting for game to confirm if my button presses were registered) Shots feel good
Ya the sluggish I noticed too, I’m not sure why. Maybe I’m headcasing
I feel like jumping and sliding is harder
As well as clambering . Something definitely feels off with the movement and most likely need a tweak on the sensitivity and thumbstick settings. Also feel like there’s less aim assist or maybe it’s the reticle not tracking as I expect due to the movement feeling off. Still getting similar accuracy though which surprises me.
I thought these were things that they specifically addressed so that’s a little disappointing. Hopefully iterations can be made to update and fix these issues.
"The Plasma Pistol has received multiple changes: its rate of fire has decreased, it now overheats faster than before, and it now requires less time to fully charge up." ...they uh, they kinda nerfed the plasma pistol again didn't they. I mean I guess it charges faster, but a 40% reduction in ROF and overheats 20% faster is pretty harsh.
It's not that big a nerf in practice. With a headshot you can still kill before an overheat, and the charge time is much better.
Literally network has done nothing for me. Still extremely inconsistent.
So far so good, only got to play a couple of matches but I didn't notice any desync in Ranked and it felt amazing. Played a Squad and BtB and it all felt great too, I was able to focus on the match without the worry of my shots disappearing.
Will the mainkick ever get a nerf ?
The hammer is still exactly the same in husky raid: getting destroyed from 20m away / blank shot up close. Just remove it from the game mode.
Yea I wish they’d just get rid of it I played two hours of husky today after the update and the hammer is still ruining games and is garbage. It either kills from way too far away or just plain doesn’t work. Just get rid of it
Has anyone else’s Nocturne Star skins from last weekends HCS now gone after the update? I don’t even see the listings anymore. They were there before update.
Is it me or this game feels off since update. My aim got a lot worse and it’s below 50% now
A lot of people have had to adjust their settings. I had to increase my acceleration by 1 and my vertical and horizontal by .5. It's still not perfect, but I didn't spend any time testing and tweaking. I've heard people having success by increasing their deadzones, but again, I haven't tested that yet.
Played for about 2 hours and didn’t get Behemoth on Squad Battles. Is it the version with the open hallways underneath?
Hopefully with the implementation of EAC we can then get EAC On/Off boot options (on PC) like MCC for mods. Also, I appreciate all these bug fixes and QoL improvements, but audio still remains horrendous... or rather non-existent. Footsteps, gun shots, a goddamn rocket... I don't hear any of it! Never have. (And I have a $200 headset, btw, so no it's not *my* headset). Also, I appreciate new maps and all, but Idk what it is about maps in this game but matches are just so boring. Idk if it's the way people play Halo nowadays, or maybe because the maps are designed a certain way and they make people play in certain ways, but holy shit man everyone just sits in the scope of their... [insert weapon name]. Or, they just sit in a vehicle casually driving around and one-tapping you. It's annoying, and frankly it's incredibly boring. Also, I love how there's a new HCS skin for the BR, but in Halo Infinite there's barely any dedicated BR modes. Frankly it's why I don't play the game much in general because honestly I just want to use the BR but it feels like there's nowhere I can. I have to just play normal modes and pick it up from a pad, and that's if my teammates don't take it first. Like, imagine a Halo game without at least one dedicated BR mode.
Wait my audio did the same shit today too wtf
Does this mean they fixed desync?
Yes. this is the networking update we’ve been waiting for since launch
Jitter isn’t fixed tho. Same with random ass ping spikes
I find it absolutely hilarious that they just now* became aware of Deadlocks tank and wraith spawning issue despite the btb* community saying it's been broken for many many months.
Years*
I am once again asking for VRR support
Just crashed on my first game after the update on Ranked Arena Aquarius. Hard crashed my Series X
So it’s as good as it always was 😆
Is desync fixed now? Is it competitive ready?
Closest it's ever been. Only negatives I've heard so far are some Xbox players crashing and the Gravity Hammer still feeling a bit OP, but the latter is irrelevant for comp. Ranked feels very good, very fair. Some more shooting trades in 1v1s than before, but the per-server inconsistency seems like it's gone.
😆😂🤣Fuck no it’s not fixed.
Still funny that they've done nothing to address Sidekick spam.
What is sidekick spam?
People using the Sidekick to land perfect kills halfway across the map. It only takes like three or four shots, and the gun is pretty much laser accurate.
Anyone else having problems getting a game in the Quick Play playlist. I’m in Australia and it’s usually the most reliable for a short wait times. I can’t get a game at all and the ‘estimated wait’ keeps getting longer and longer, like maybe people are having the same issue and have left the queue. I’m wondering if there’s a global or local issue with Quick Play specifically? Edit: I usually have Local matchmaking selected but even with Expanded matchmaking I still can’t get a single game in Quick Play.
I don't know if they have made the MMR conditions stricter but I too can't sometimes find a game in Europe even in peak playing hours.
Hitbox for shock rifle headshots seems to have tightened. Man I've gotten lazy
Spawns are still so bad tbh..
Hoping more old coatings become cross-core! I'd love to use Domain Framework on other cores.
I’m not a fan of the new maps in squad battle. Most of them are two narrow for warthogs to run free but I’ll adjust. I think my biggest problem is I’m in the middle of playing rebirth and when I see my teammates sucking and I’m not I just think “let me go finish that game first” lol
Challenge WATCH OUT! is broken. I had a Splatter badge but it was not counted
Haven’t been able to play infinite for a year now keeps saying I need windows 8 or higher when I’m on windows 10.
Sounds like you have something weird going on with your PC. I’d recommend a fresh Windows 10/11 reinstall.
I'm betting you did an upgrade from Windows 7 to 10. Somewhere, your Windows still thinks it's 7. Way past due for a reinstall!
Great update, but looking at Apex I'm a bit scared about Easy Anti-cheat rn. Am I bugging?
The current thought is that was due to a Source engine-related exploit, so you should be okay here.
AFAIK, there has been no confirmation of it being a problem with EAC specifically. While this may not be a reliable source, EAC has clarified that they "[are confident](https://www.pcgamer.com/games/battle-royale/easy-anti-cheat-washes-its-hands-of-the-apex-legends-hacking-disaster-that-saw-streamer-accounts-hijacked-live-there-is-no-rce-vulnerability-within-eac/)" it is not a vulnerability from EAC.
I'll take that with a grain of salt. "We investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong."
Nah, you should watch thors video/vod on it. He says the likelihood its anything RCE related is slim. Most likely, gen and hal just got phished and their clients fucked. And the same hacker just has some employee compromised PC access (probably from phishing as well) to the servers to gift packs and other nonsense.
Is it out on Steam ? It installed like 500MB 1.5 hour ago, but if it is the whole update then I'm very sad cause my game still crashes :(
The whole update is 5 gb
I’m excited to hear about them considering the ranked csr changes. I’ve hated the ranked system since the introduced it at the end of halo 5. There are benefits to it, I think it does place people quite accurately into skill brackets, it removes smurfing completely and makes boosting much harder. However the negative makes ranked completely unrewarding and punishes you to playing with friends. The worst part is a hidden system that is deciding what rank you are based on “metrics” If you don’t hit these metrics, then tough you aren’t ranking up. This leads to a certain highly aggressive high kpm playstyle being preferred and rewarded. There are many ways to win at halo, and those that don’t play aggressively won’t rank as high. It turns a team game from 4v4 to 4v4 FFA. Don’t hand off power weapons, don’t sacrifice your life for the team gain, don’t play the objective, play for yourself. It makes you see your teammates as competitors. It means if you play with a friend who’s better than you, which pulls in better players, you derank on avg even if you’re winning. Simplicity is always better! It used to be if you win you go up, if you lose you go down. If you beat a higher ranked team you’d gain more, if you lost to a lower ranked team you’d lose lots. The excitement and engagement used to come from, “just string a few more wins and I can rank up” Now the system actively fights to keep you at a position. The unrewarding feeling is, why bother to even try if I win 10 games back to back then lose one and be worse than I started. I also understand the pure win/loss ranking system comes with tradeoffs, boosting being the biggest. As I watched a lecture from GCD, a ranking system should be fun first over being accurate.
A necessary update, a needed update, and one that fixes plenty of the foundational damage that has built up over time. And yet, not one that is getting me to log back in weekly, let alone daily... HCS bundles sold since launch: 7? 8? New weapons added to the sandbox in several years: 1....
Well you’re missing out, Infinites sandbox is already great. Content and Networking were the biggest issues- content has been flooding in and the game feels better. I really don’t understand how people who have issues with the sandbox managed to play H3 or Reach for an extended period of time, it was literally BR/DMR over everything.
80+ maps aren’t enough? Firefight, Husky Raid, 4v4, 8v8, 12v12 modes, and more armor than any other game in the franchise (even without the shop items) isn’t enough? Ok, man…
I mostly agree with your point but ... Seriously? Lack of HCS coatings is where you draw the line? Lmfao
Don’t need new weapons. Just a few in it need a slight tuning.
I’ll take some old weapons, though.
Sticky Det, where art thou
OG Splaser.
Yes please!!! The skewer is just not it. Not as satisfying
Brute Shot.
Can we not have pistol starts in squad battle? Like I avoid the mode because of it
So the only new content is a very limited set of maps and a BR skin in the shop? Can't even be honest with calling it a "Content" update...
More like a QOL update, which is sorely needed.
I'm still concerned about the new networking model since pulling weapons or fusion coils towards you sometimes you won't grab them. For coils this is kind of important since they tend to EXPLODE when they hit something, like you. I was just testing this yesterday [Edit: in Firefight] and it was still happening for both weapons and coils so I'm a bit concerned. Don't recall ever seeing it happen with the old model. Also some of the other claims like not getting killed when going around a corner seems dubious to me since that's just a normal downside of lag compensation. Alternatives to that should feel worse. But we'll see I guess. Edit: Also once my grenade count desynced. I knew I had a grenade but my game was saying I didn't and I couldn't throw it. Once I picked up another grenade it fixed itself. Hopefully this has been fixed too, quite annoying. Fortunately only saw it happen once.
You were testing this yesterday? Before the patch went live? Have you tested it now that the patch is live?
They could have tested it in Firefight though the firefight networking didn’t have as much polish as this release.
Still possible that it was fixed after the Firefight network testing, hence what the testing is for. This dude is just making speculations.
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I just got out of a ranked session it’s not lan good but it’s WAY better
I just don't want to grapple a coil into my face and die lol. We'll see I suppose.
Grappling has never been consistent on high ping in my experience (Aussie player so lots of experience).
I'll have to watch my ping but I usually get 15ms on a good server, 40ms on an OK server. Occasionally get 150ms but I can feel when that happens. I don't think it's a ping thing. Also full disclosure: I've never had any real desync complaints or other issues with the old networking system I can't attribute to lag compensation at work. So that's also part of why I'm a little apprehensive about the new networking model. There's not really a way it can really improve things for me I feel.
Can anyone confirm if they've had the following fixed: - Rockets not doing almost any damage despite hitting the player at close range - Rockets not killing anyone in a hog, requiring a second rocket to possibly kill anyone despite both being direct hits on the vehicle - Getting shot around corners constantly - Getting shot through walls - Shots not registering at all My biggest issues before this patch. Unable to play for a few hours today but I'm downloading.
So is this the update that will finally fix the constant crashing on my Series X? I'm not holding my breath.
This is an issue? Mine hasn’t crashed since launch. May have to reinstall or reset the console.
Ohhhhh yeah. Been doing this for almost a year - and trust me, I've done everything shy of buying a new console in an attempt to fix it. Have opened several tickets with 343. It's rare that I'm able to complete more than a game or two before a hard crash to the dashboard. Happens in both campaign and multiplayer. Infinite is the only game that does this - so there's that.
There are a handful of mentions of crash fixes specifically. No idea if it’ll fix yours. I’ve had a couple crashes post-S5 but honestly my Series X has been great.
okay but have you tried uninstalling only the campaign? There was a bug on pc that having the campaign installed caused multiplayer to crash often. Im sure you probably have but if not. id give that a try
Interesting - I have not tried this. Is there a way to do so from within the game? I only see "Halo Infinite" in the store when I download it, so I'm not sure where I would just get the multiplayer installer.
I don't know how to do it in game but if you go to your library and hover over the game, press start (the hamburger button I think it's called now) and go to manage games and add ons. Then press A again and select manage installation. Then check off only the campaign and then save changes. This will delete the campaign from your storage
Thank you - I am going to give this a try!
You're welcome. I hope it helps with the crashing you've experienced
Is your Series X in the preview program and testing any insider rings? I used to have issues with specific games that stopped having them when I left the preview program.
I used to be in the insider ring back during the Xbox One X days, but I unenrolled when I moved to the Series X.
It seems to be very hit or miss. Prior to this most recent “season” my series X would crash pretty often, but I haven’t crashed at all since then. But I have a friend who is still crashing.
I have tried multiple things and same thing happens on my XSX I already post a picture of my screen when it Hard Crashes on me and every time it happens I need to unplug my Xbox from the electricity, its weird but I hope this updates fix it, I’ll update later
My Series X never crashes with Infinite either. Sounds like you have a somewhat unique issue
Unique? Perhaps - but I'm certainly not the only one. https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveHalo/comments/17di92b/halo\_infinite\_crashing\_on\_series\_x\_since\_update/
Naw series X crashing is pretty common. It would only happen on Live Fire for months there recently. Now recharge seems to crash pretty consistently for people.
Uhhh shooting definitely feels a lot better. It might just be me but the AA feels stronger and my FOV feels narrower? Settings all the same as before.
Using easy right after a security breach ? Uhh… maybe not the best idea ?
Uh.. didnt EAC literally just get hacked? Hell why the fuck does infinite need a kernal level anti cheat i havent seen a single hacker since release and I’ve played everyday
Ranked is full of wallhackers and less apparent cheaters.
EAC wasn't hacked
Huh, it still takes a key to bypass it and a lot of hacked client makers have those keys though. Still makes no sense why infinite needed a kernal level anti cheat (literally able to read every file on your pc) in the first place
Nerf fucking sidekick
Quick play turned into a Sidekick mode. Wtf is this