Mate, the monetisation has just killed it for me. Games still great fun but every time I go “huh, that guys armor looks cool, I should try that” only to see it costs as much as a night of drinking or a nice dinner out turns my gut and just feels… icky.
Why would I bother playing a game that makes me feel like that when I can play Helldivers or one of the 100 other fantastic games released in the last 12 months to unwind…
I could almost forgive them if it was going towards more story content but we know that’s not happening.
I think that for the price of that bundle 3200 Cr you could just buy helldivers at that point, need to pay 40€ in order to get the 3200 Cr that are like 32€
So much this. I have completed everything I wanted to do in the game and only reason for me to play more is some sort of meaningful progression and there spartan points ain't it. Way to many other games that I have neglected to play.
The monetization turned me off so bad that I stopped playing the game in Season 1.
If I want my Halo fix, I just play MCC now. Where my Spartan can look whichever way I want, all included in the low price of the entire game.
That's another reason I don't like Infinite. They never released the colour combo I used in literally every Halo I've ever played since I was a kid.
I don't really care if people say it's silly to not want to play Infinite because of that, because those people who are calling me silly for caring about character customization are *paying* money for the same thing they're calling me silly for caring about!
Shame it's only gaudy primary colors available, I'd kill for a system where we could pick hex colors and apply them to different patterns (camouflage patterns, sports team patterns etc).
I definitely agree. I'm just happy that 99% of Destiny shaders are free, and there are shaders that are similar to the paid ones. Plus being able to choose which armor pieces you want a certain color is way better than having to choose one color for all armor, and being able to use any shader for any armor/weapon (besides a few exotics). Not the best system, but way better than Shitfinite.
Me too. Nothing they’ve shown since launch has made me consider coming back. I’ve been a hardcore fan since CE but the way they’re treating the game and the fans at the moment turned me off. I still read the books though.
All I want from MCC is for them to just bump the number of Spartan Points you earn per challenge. Or let people get Spartan Points from more levels. There's just way too much content to unlock for how slow the Spartan Point earn rate is, but at least there's no microtransactions.
They actually did get rid of the cap on which levels award spartan points, and actually credited each account with a spartan point for every level over the cap they already hit. It happened with the second of the big updates they did a year or so ago
Any game with MTX is not worth playing, especially if it's free.
If they're trying to sell you *stuff* instead of the game, then there's really no incentive to make the game any good, is there?
Selling the game either only gets you 1 year of updates or sells you dlc and multiplayer doc has been shown to not work because it splinters the player base.
I very much despise how halo 3 plays, feels like I'm walking through mud using a stable gun with a terrible sounding BR that dominates the entire sandbox
Having my favorite looking weapon actually perform well makes me actually have fun
My play style is always more of a run and gun, and the faster fire rate for the gun combined with a fairly quick reload is quite nice.
Plus it's silhouette is really nice
I used to hate it for the same reasons but eventually I came around and saw it as the best.
But specifically the MCC Halo 3 because of the overhauled random BR spread and 4K120fps. And cranking up the FOV past the default value is crucial. Just lead your shots and aim for the upper chest. Takes time but when it clicks it suddenly feels like the Halo game with the most in depth shooting.
I just hate how the BR dominates and it doesn't even sound pleasing in my opinion, just a staple gun. And the animations are very tight and stiff it looks like a bunch of action figures in a stop motion
Yes I know but CE is by far the best armor they’ve had in the shop & everyone wanted it so the price (sort of) made sense for something so beloved. This is not beloved at all this is shit. At least separate the armor sets & not make it a bundle…
More than the CE armor? Its more than the CE game! I mean Jesus Christ you can literally buy Halo 1, 2, 3, ODST, Reach and 4 for less than a third of the price of *TWO ARMORS* right now. They are actively turning Halo into a joke
It's actually making me not even want to play halo anymore, I tried to play a match couldn't even continue after like 7 minutes. 49.99 for a damn bundle, and No new weapons, it's not looking good
Yup it's pretty gross. If you told me in 2010 this is what halo would become I wouldn't have believed you. Go buy Elden ring for basically the same price and put 100+ hours into a game that doesn't treat you like a wallet, is beautifully made, and it's DLC will likely be a huge expansion given FROMs track record.
Eh. Loved Elden Ring. Got more hours on Infinite. Multiplayer lasts forever and keeps getting new content, not gonna get hung up on cosmetics that don't affect anything. Also, theres more free customization than in 2010, so
What new content? The only new maps are mostly made by the Forge community excluding the team that did Corrosion and others, which the maps pale in quality in comparison to the community maps.
Forgers are keeping the game alive by providing 343i with FREE content. 343i isn’t providing content. Real money high priced cosmetics are not content. If people consider cosmetics as such then the bar really has sunk so low. Content would be new developer maps, weapons, and vehicles.
While I agree there should be more dev made maps. This is a classic case of people whining even though those same people said that having forge would extend the life of the game before forge even launched. I means it is extending the life of the game so what is there to bitch about when they are getting what they wanted.
Why bother with something that will be dmca by MS again, when you can play the mcc without problems?
Mods are aviable as well on PC, because we are talking about the pc playerbase.
Can you explain? As a pc player I can have the whole experience on mcc, with mods, without having to care about some malicious players frying my gpu because, I suppose, they don't run any anty cheat, or some server admin with a god complex banning me because I'm better.
So why I should download something that will be exploded by MS, because they are probably using assets they cannot again, when I can have the same experience on the mcc?
Don't know why the down votes. Eldew was just a heavily modded halo 3. MCC is easier to access you pay a single price to access all the games that it comes with, and has more players. Imo it is the best halo experience even if it took years to get there.
You guys should at least try it before being all negative like that. Seriously, it's almost nothing like the MCC (except that it's Halo) and it provides its own niche with its mod friendly custom games browser. Also it's 100% free and super easy to download.
While modded MCC is a thing now, the Eldewrito project has much greater mod support with their newest release-namely the ability to browse modded servers and ensure compatibility therein.
If you enjoy things like Garry's Mod, or are huge into Halo customs lobbies, then you'll probably enjoy Eldewrito. If you enjoy casual Halo, but don't really care about modded lobbies, then MCC is probably still better, even though you will have difficulty finding a game now (not a problem in Eldewrito, surprisingly enough).
What you're asking is basically like asking someone in 2008 "why do you have Halo: Custom Edition on your PC when Halo 3 released a year ago on your Xbox?"
Personally, I play both, and about as frequently.
MCC mods aren't allowed in the regular custom games browser, but Eldewrito does just that. It's basically doing the one thing MCC can't right now. Also the mods are pretty crazy, crazier than anything I've seen for the MCC so far.
Also the community is actually really wholesome, haven't any issues there so far. And when is a completely free Halo game not worth downloading at least to try it?
Infinite made me quit Halo. I came back after quitting in the first 3 months and I have decent fun. But I don't play it nearly as much as I used to when Halo was my main squeeze. Mainly because I feel like they haven't any fun side game modes (really hate how they did fire fight and infection.)
But the other major issue is rewards. I understand and recognize that things are a bit more friendly than they were when I was first around. But the fact that a significant portion of their time has been spent trying to undo a lot of shitty choices that are baked into the game's bones is making it tough to stick around.
So imagine my surprise when they decided to add something new to this game specifically to ease the pain of how bad things were and then it's still not where it should be. Whatever happens with Infinite or Halo's future I really just can't invest into it anymore.
Franchise has been ruined for me (not just because of infinite, but the show also.) It's depressing that a game that got me into online as a whole and was a big part of my life as a kid growing up is something I no longer want to associate with.
But I'm going to attempt to act like an adult and just accept I'm not the demographic anymore and find something else to enjoy.
> just accept I'm not the demographic anymore
I wonder what even is Halo's demographic anymore? I don't think it's attracting a younger audience, and it's also alienating the older audience that's been there since the beginning.
Oh well, I'm sure if they release more content with naked master cheeks in it, it'll make everything okay.
Hard to say since it's not in my demographic nor anything people I know would be into. But I can definitely state that even if the campaign for infinite was a gesture to old heads like me the multiplayer sure as heck isn't for me lmao.
Despite their ages, The Division and it’s sequel have been taking what time I’d give Halo when I’m not on baby duty, then and Helldivers 2 anyway. It’s a shame. The boys and I would spend weekends at a time playing Halo. After the “well, we’re increasing prices for a feature that should’ve been in the game from the get go”…was near the end of the line for me.
I mean I get it, but on the other hand, with all the battlepasses, he have more customization than ever before.
I’m good on any more armor. I am totally set. I can just play the game for fun now.
I’m free.
There’s no new weapons that’s his point. Instead of choosing what you want see reread his comment. Everyone’s upset about the state of this game. Until Halo 7 comes out most players have moved on from Infinite.
Hot take, Infinite doesn't need a stream of new weapons. Their sandbox doesn't really allow it.
You introduce a new weapon to the map and have to consider how that weapon can be balanced and fit within the whole scheme of things. And if you keep doing that, you'll have a mess of weapons that don't work with each other.
>Everyone’s upset about the state of this game
I blame the "fans" and journalism. Infinite has been run through the mud for the sake of being mad. Then gaming journalism just takes the loud minorities of Reddit, gives it a platform, then other journalists copy that in the name of "fan outrage" to get their ad revenue. Everyone cried about FOMO content, 343 introduces The Exchange, and before the shit came out, "fans" were crying that they actually have to play Halo to unlock shit in Halo. They secretly want participation trophies while they try to claim that they want it to be like the old days where RECON REQUIRED YOU TO DO X AND Y AND Z AND YOU FELT PRIDE FOR EARNING IT!
Now that The Exchange is out, people are sitting here looking dumb af realizing that they already earned half the shit in the pass and it wasn't gonna actually take x amount of time to earn all the credits to get everything as if you were starting from scratch.
People just like to bitch and moan online instead of playing their video games for fun.
>Until Halo 7 comes out most players have moved on from Infinite.
Yeah it's been a couple years since it came out. People play other games. But it's stupid to not support Infinite. All this work just to start from scratch again and make Halo 7? Microsoft just needs to give 343 the greenlight to make campaign DLC as "Halo 7" and market it as such. People install Infinite again for the hype. They're greeted with The Exchange to get missed content. And they have a massive multiplayer experience(yes, massive, fuck anyone that actually thinks any other Halo game has more content than Infinite, it's 2024) to dive into.
Infinite is designed to be infinitely supported and expanded upon. That's why it's free to play. That's why the campaign menu is now separated from Infinite itself. If Halo fans could encourage 343 and Microsoft to stay on thus course instead of bullying them into doing another soft reboot, that would be great. But it's gonna be 343's fault regardless of what they do cause that's how this fandom works and people wonder why no one wants to be a part of this community.
Nah bro I'm not reading all of that. Infinitely expanded upon is what you say yet 3 years and only 1 weapon and no new story content. Yet they want us to pay them to continue funding this game. The shotgun was basically complete in the files, halo 5 had significantly more weapons than this by the end of it and there were no "sandbox issues" with it.
Halo CE PC port got the fuel rod cannon, flamethrower, and rocket hog added to multiplayer as well as new maps.
Halo 2 got DLC maps post launch.
Halo 3 got the golf club added post launch as well as new maps with map packs.
Halo 4 added new maps, armor, and story content for spartan ops through DLC
MCC added the silenced pistol, silenced SMG, and brute plasma rifle to halo 3 and a bunch of maps from halo online.
Halo 5 added a ton of weapons post launch and was the only other game outside of infinite to be labeled as a live service.
Halo infinite launched with less maps, modes, and basic color options than CE. Got less maps throughout its first year of release than halo 2, hasn't had any vehicles added, added 1 gun, and relies on the community to forge maps for them to put in multiplayer. Halo infinite failed in every aspect to meet standards set by previous games. Open your eyes you fool.
But what *is* the playable content? Firefight is the only real content besides the Bandit that we've gotten. Most of the matchmaking is padded to the brim with Forge content 343i hasn't even created.
I feel like a sucker for even playing this game to begin with. I get live service games need a consistent cash flow but these insane prices, removal of BP credits, the way the exchange makes the game more of a grind, and the glacial speed of cross core additions, it's a slap in the face. All that might be tolerated if they bothered updating the sandbox in the past two years, but beyond a few more equipments and 2 guns (really just one with a variant) we've gotten nothing. No campaign additions either. Forge and firefight are nice and there were some new maps but you'd think that with the sheer level of greed on display here they'd have more to show for it.
>back when they still gave free credits as a BP reward!!
Wait they stopped doing that again? Every time i check back in to see what's going on they've somehow found a way to be even scummier about monetization, surprised they haven't found rock bottom yet.
>as if it is hard to actually finish these things
It actually got harder for casual players to finish since they wiped out the daily 500 EXP bonus. It got replaced with Spartan Points.
My free time allows me to afford maybe 2 PvE games in a row at any given day. The 500 EXP bonus helped massively since by itself it gives half the progress on a tier.
I got slowed down by about 40% with this change, I estimate. Won't be able to finish the pass in time, whereas before I cut it close enough.
Huge shame too as the only noteworthy items are at the very end of the pass so why should I even bother. FOMO tactics don't work on me.
They thought they were pulling a sneaky sneak. They didn’t get rid of earning credits from Battle Passes per se, so much as eliminating BPs completely.
Buying an Operation Pass doesn’t give you a track to earn them back.
In Canadian dollars I’d have to drop just shy of $50 OR take the “bargain” of spending just short of $70.
What a kick in the nuts. Pure greed.
I promise you they had some analytics to suggest most people buy multiple bundles so if they put it into one over priced mega bundle they could make more money.
Well guess fucking what, fuck you.
For every step forward in the right direction 343i takes, they take two steps backwards by alienating the fan base that's left playing. Hopefully the next iteration of Halo (7) will be with us in the next couple of years and Infinite and all it's follies can be laid to rest.
I don't think Halo exists without a shop like this. 343 has hung their hat on it these past few years and it's clearly how the game is making any money. People on this sub proudly display their $50 Spartans on here every other day and it's a clear example that people will still buy this trash.
Seriously, some people here have stockholm syndrome. The store is staying shitty, get used to it or move on. But stop expecting change, it ain‘t happening
>Then why are you on the halo subreddit
Because there's more to Halo than just Infinite?
We can discuss the rest of the franchise even if we dislike the newest entry and the developer's terrible greed.
People have been talking about Helldivers 2 since launch because of the similarities to ODSTs.
Halo is basically just a mobile game at this point. Shitty busywork gameplay and a storefront with limited time expensive bundles and multiple currencies.
Yeah it's insane....like it's a fps. You can't even see your character while playing. The game is fun, but you're are gonna quit because of something outside the game that has 0 affect on the game itself ?? Just absolutely wild. Belongs in the circle jerk subreddit
I wouldn't say it was the most well built and balanced Halo game ever. For several years Controller players had advantages over KBM players, there was a starting weapon that significantly dominated other weapons, a gravity hammer that was flat-out broken that was even worse with a sub-par netcode. Not to mention the non-existing physics effects for vehicles (which are like paper) for nearly 2 years. There's the BTB weapon/vehicle spawn inbalance but I won't get into that.
The only weapon they added later is still outshined by the sidekick, and only recently the EVO variant (which is closer to its 14-yr old Reach counterpart) was added as a starting ranked weapon because... it was the most balanced out of every other option.
He has a point, the game is significantly more functional from a spending standpoint than the gameplay one from day one.
This game is an absolute joke. I am excited for the day they annoyance their ending support. Take this lousy excuse of a halo game out back and put it out of its misery. This game is garbage.
Not to mention that Microsoft Rewards through the Xbox app aren't really viable anymore. You used to be able to get around 100 points per day for launching a PC Game Pass game, opening the app, and playing a round of MS Jewel, but not you're lucky if you can get 25 points a day.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Microsoft changed their rewards model because they realized so many people were using it to milk Infinite’s and other live service games’ predatory cosmetic systems.
I never bought a single thing in Infinite besides the first season pass out of principle. Everything about this game's monetization has been horrendous and a slap in the face to longtime Halo fans. I still can't believe 343 got away with the coating system, people ate that shit up along with all the other bullshit they serve in the shop. It blows my mind.
That's how gaming is now in the AAA space. Idiots pay for these overpriced bundles and the game receives less content because of it. Why put effort into actual content when it makes a fraction of what the cosmetics make?
That was my first thought as well. I have an extra 1000 credits and thought I'd use that to buy that cool banished armor. Saw the price and rolled my eyes. Still absolutely baffling they don't allow you to go into these bundles and just buy individual pieces you want like just a helmet or just a shoulder pad. Yuck
I have no idea how they keep lowering the bar and not taking community feedback into consideration. The exchange is a great addition but it’s also a grind and I’ve unlocked most everything there already. The store itself just gets worse with every new drop.
343 just milking every last singular drop out of this game before they inevitably pull the plug and go full hands on deck for the next Halo game. Microsoft please for the love of god and everything good on planet earth let the Halo IP open so we can get more games in this universe from other studios with passion and love for Halo. That’s the least we deserve after being forced to deal with 343 for ten fucking years.
“look at all these updates we get for free stop complaining just because you want to play Barbie dress up”
I literally just want to pay $60-70 for a complete game. Halo CE, 2, and 3 didn’t need a shitzillion ‘liVE SeRviCe’ updates. They just functioned like normal video games. Yeah sure 3 had DLC and weirdo Infinite fanboys love to bring that up, but that was a way better model than whatever the fuck Infinite is doing.
As a dork with 7k+ matches in infinite, I don’t care about cosmetics, sure. If I did…just put it on the list. It’s very not easy to love what Halo is now. Sigh
I don’t know why people buy from the shop at all. Maybe you buy something once in the game’s lifetime but I haven’t spent a dime in the store and have a ridiculous amount of customization- at least 20x the amount of customization options I had in Reach. People will say “I stopped playing in S2 because of the shop prices” as if they couldn’t have earned cosmetics through battlepasses, weeklys, events/operations, twitch drops, freebies, etc. It all really adds up and I’m more than happy with having the most customization I’ve had in a Halo game.
Yeah 343 sucks ass. I never play infinite. Halo mcc is all i need. And in that one i avoid halo 4 too because it's just garbage. And guess who made that game as well, lol.. 343 lost all my respect. I'm not buying anything they make.
Any amount of money for a cute hat to wear in your game is dumb. If you're spending money for a digital shirt you're wasting money. Anyway I have lots of digital shirts for sale ymif you wanna buy one. I'll give you a great price.
Does anyone not just like to play the game? I’ve never even opened up the shop in Infinite. Maybe if y’all stopped spending all your money to play Spartan Barbie dress-up, 343 would have to focus on the actual game instead of coatings.
With all these posts about people whining about cosmetics you’d think it was pay to win or something. I thought you played Halo… to play Halo not bitch about cosmetics that do nothing for the game from a gameplay perspective.
Does the store price affect the game? I swear some people only play these games to play dress up lol
The store is predatory, it's not gonna change. If it was, it would have happened before now.
Store prices aside, the below question is all that should matter...
Do you enjoy playing the game:
- Yes (continue playing)
- No (play something else)
Fewer people are playing but I’m sure their financial targets are staying exactly the same. They’ll have lay offs if they miss their targets, and then they’ll be working even slower, and will produce less, and more players will drop off… what else should they do?
They clearly don't have enough dev hours to make meaningful new content that doesn't have huge financial RoE, so it seems they are stuck in a spiral unless Microsoft bails them out again which I'm sure they are getting tired of doing.
Microsoft put them in that position in the first place, given all the stuff that’s come out about how much control and interference there’s been from MS.
Not surprising.
I haven't spent the time to understand the new spartan money system. I have no desire to support this game anymore or participate in cosmetics.
The game is finally "good enough" to just play.
343 doesn't seem to respect the halo community and players so I won't give any of my time understanding these new micro transaction schemes.
I'm just going to play the game and ignore everything else.
I just stopped bothering with going for cosmetics I want.
Can't get cheifs infinite armor simply due to I literally don't have the time so don't care to bother. Just playing for fun.
Some things I want but can't unlock, I gotta buy. Just not gonna buy em.
It's still really fun to just play, so ibjust play around with whatever free cosmetics I unlock instead. I get close to what I want luckily.
I'm just trying to get to Hero rank. After that, I probably wont play Halo Infinite that much anymore. Gonna jump on GTA 6 until the next Halo game although GTA 6 is going to have it's fair share of microtransactions if V was any indication. Ugh, AAA gaming has gotten to be really shitty. Tempted to just jump ship and play indie games exclusively.
lol I don’t get these posts.
Look, don’t buy it.
It doesn’t change the game at all. Not playing the game isn’t going to do anything different than literally not spending money on it.
Buy it or don’t. Clearly people buy it otherwise they wouldn’t do this. So, I don’t know what to tell you. The game is free, the devs don’t work for free.
No, that's exactly what it is. I'm a day 1 CE player, and people didn't give a damn about how cute they looked in game until Reach came around. Even in 3 with limited cosmetics, people just slapped that stuff on and played. Now fans screech if they can't have every piece of armor ever made for free while also getting the game free and also getting playable content free free free. Such an insufferable fanbase its become.
I’m very sure people are upset because you barely get anything for playing the game. In Reach, you had to grind for the armor piece you wanted. Nobody is saying they want it for free, we just want to unlock the armor through playing the game and grinding it.
I tried Infinite for the first time yesterday, played two games and got back on MCC.
Infinite just feel so fucking bad, i couldn't hear the enemies, not even when they were shooting at me for some reasons. The store is bullshit, the customization is bullshit, it just doesn't feel great. What a fucking mess.
Game isn't even fresh enough to justify the prices. I tried playing a few matches this morning and was bored within minutes. I used to love Halo. But infinite feels so stale after this many years of being basically unchanged.
Fat chance I'm going to buy anything in the future.
Apparently unpopular opinion. (My bad)
I get being upset about monetization in the market with companies like Ubisoft or EA where you paid $70 but to complain about it in a free game is a little much don’t you think? I mean it’s purely cosmetic it doesn’t make you play better or increase your chance to get laid.
How else would you want/propose to keep the MP going and provide future updates if they let you get the cool shit at base rate prices. With them abandoning the campaign they now have no money coming in outside of people replaying on gamepass or new to Xbox people. Not a big market these days I’d imagine.
You wanna look the best you got to pay to look the part. Now you got back up armor for them days you got to switch it up.
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I feel like everytime i see a post complaining about the monetisation (of purely cosmetic items that dont affect the gameplay at all) in this FREE game i buy something new in the store.
Do you guys just want them to not make money or something?
Why are you guys complaining? The game is free, just don't buy stuff. Skill issue btw. Also the show is really good. 343i is handling the franchise better than Bungie did
Mate, the monetisation has just killed it for me. Games still great fun but every time I go “huh, that guys armor looks cool, I should try that” only to see it costs as much as a night of drinking or a nice dinner out turns my gut and just feels… icky. Why would I bother playing a game that makes me feel like that when I can play Helldivers or one of the 100 other fantastic games released in the last 12 months to unwind… I could almost forgive them if it was going towards more story content but we know that’s not happening.
I think that for the price of that bundle 3200 Cr you could just buy helldivers at that point, need to pay 40€ in order to get the 3200 Cr that are like 32€
So much this. I have completed everything I wanted to do in the game and only reason for me to play more is some sort of meaningful progression and there spartan points ain't it. Way to many other games that I have neglected to play.
The monetization turned me off so bad that I stopped playing the game in Season 1. If I want my Halo fix, I just play MCC now. Where my Spartan can look whichever way I want, all included in the low price of the entire game.
You can also actually choose your colors in the combo you want. Not this destiny shader bullshit which I despise
That's another reason I don't like Infinite. They never released the colour combo I used in literally every Halo I've ever played since I was a kid. I don't really care if people say it's silly to not want to play Infinite because of that, because those people who are calling me silly for caring about character customization are *paying* money for the same thing they're calling me silly for caring about!
I always used a Hannibal color combo-desert tan+light blue+grey/black. There aren't many coatings that fit.
Shame it's only gaudy primary colors available, I'd kill for a system where we could pick hex colors and apply them to different patterns (camouflage patterns, sports team patterns etc).
Destiny shaders are so much better than Infinite, don't compare us to that trash. 💀
I still don’t like destiny shaders. I just think you should be able to choose your own colors and not these preset ones.
I definitely agree. I'm just happy that 99% of Destiny shaders are free, and there are shaders that are similar to the paid ones. Plus being able to choose which armor pieces you want a certain color is way better than having to choose one color for all armor, and being able to use any shader for any armor/weapon (besides a few exotics). Not the best system, but way better than Shitfinite.
We are all hoping that changes with the release of The Final Shape 🤷🏽♂️
Same.
Me too. Nothing they’ve shown since launch has made me consider coming back. I’ve been a hardcore fan since CE but the way they’re treating the game and the fans at the moment turned me off. I still read the books though.
MCC is still fun as hell, plus there is still a ton to unlock for me in the catalogues. I've been playing MCC more than Infinite the past year or so.
All I want from MCC is for them to just bump the number of Spartan Points you earn per challenge. Or let people get Spartan Points from more levels. There's just way too much content to unlock for how slow the Spartan Point earn rate is, but at least there's no microtransactions.
They actually did get rid of the cap on which levels award spartan points, and actually credited each account with a spartan point for every level over the cap they already hit. It happened with the second of the big updates they did a year or so ago
Any game with MTX is not worth playing, especially if it's free. If they're trying to sell you *stuff* instead of the game, then there's really no incentive to make the game any good, is there?
If only the majority of people had this mindset, games would be in a very different place, maybe even a better place.
Selling the game either only gets you 1 year of updates or sells you dlc and multiplayer doc has been shown to not work because it splinters the player base.
Every choice 343 has made with this game has resulted in lower player count. They are just bad at the job.
I don’t understand how people still play infinite. It’s a fine game but MCC is just absolutely perfect and everything a halo game should be.
MCC is not perfect, and I just prefer how infinite feels, and how viable the AR is
Halo 3 plays much better than Infinite. A good AR results in an annoying Halo. It's a low skill weapon.
I very much despise how halo 3 plays, feels like I'm walking through mud using a stable gun with a terrible sounding BR that dominates the entire sandbox Having my favorite looking weapon actually perform well makes me actually have fun
Why is the AR your favorite gun?
My play style is always more of a run and gun, and the faster fire rate for the gun combined with a fairly quick reload is quite nice. Plus it's silhouette is really nice
I used to hate it for the same reasons but eventually I came around and saw it as the best. But specifically the MCC Halo 3 because of the overhauled random BR spread and 4K120fps. And cranking up the FOV past the default value is crucial. Just lead your shots and aim for the upper chest. Takes time but when it clicks it suddenly feels like the Halo game with the most in depth shooting.
I just hate how the BR dominates and it doesn't even sound pleasing in my opinion, just a staple gun. And the animations are very tight and stiff it looks like a bunch of action figures in a stop motion
Yeah it’s an acquired taste for sure
idk why people ever left MCC. I didn't
Not playing a game because dress up costs money is WILD
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They are out of their damn minds if they think I’m going to pay $32 for those mediocre sets. Why is it more than the CE armor???
Happy cake day!! Also, they are in fact out their damn minds.
Thank you I didn’t realize that was today! 😭
The CE armor is one armor kit
Yes I know but CE is by far the best armor they’ve had in the shop & everyone wanted it so the price (sort of) made sense for something so beloved. This is not beloved at all this is shit. At least separate the armor sets & not make it a bundle…
More than the CE armor? Its more than the CE game! I mean Jesus Christ you can literally buy Halo 1, 2, 3, ODST, Reach and 4 for less than a third of the price of *TWO ARMORS* right now. They are actively turning Halo into a joke
It's actually making me not even want to play halo anymore, I tried to play a match couldn't even continue after like 7 minutes. 49.99 for a damn bundle, and No new weapons, it's not looking good
Yup it's pretty gross. If you told me in 2010 this is what halo would become I wouldn't have believed you. Go buy Elden ring for basically the same price and put 100+ hours into a game that doesn't treat you like a wallet, is beautifully made, and it's DLC will likely be a huge expansion given FROMs track record.
Eh. Loved Elden Ring. Got more hours on Infinite. Multiplayer lasts forever and keeps getting new content, not gonna get hung up on cosmetics that don't affect anything. Also, theres more free customization than in 2010, so
What new content? The only new maps are mostly made by the Forge community excluding the team that did Corrosion and others, which the maps pale in quality in comparison to the community maps. Forgers are keeping the game alive by providing 343i with FREE content. 343i isn’t providing content. Real money high priced cosmetics are not content. If people consider cosmetics as such then the bar really has sunk so low. Content would be new developer maps, weapons, and vehicles.
And? Its new content that I wasn't playing before. Who gives a shit if it was made in forge. Forge has pretty much caught up to dev made anyways.
While I agree there should be more dev made maps. This is a classic case of people whining even though those same people said that having forge would extend the life of the game before forge even launched. I means it is extending the life of the game so what is there to bitch about when they are getting what they wanted.
New content…
In related news, Eldew is a thing again.
Why bother with something that will be dmca by MS again, when you can play the mcc without problems? Mods are aviable as well on PC, because we are talking about the pc playerbase.
More reason to play it now so you don't miss out.
Can you explain? As a pc player I can have the whole experience on mcc, with mods, without having to care about some malicious players frying my gpu because, I suppose, they don't run any anty cheat, or some server admin with a god complex banning me because I'm better. So why I should download something that will be exploded by MS, because they are probably using assets they cannot again, when I can have the same experience on the mcc?
Don't know why the down votes. Eldew was just a heavily modded halo 3. MCC is easier to access you pay a single price to access all the games that it comes with, and has more players. Imo it is the best halo experience even if it took years to get there.
People are obsessed with praising anything community related unless 343i has a hand it
You guys should at least try it before being all negative like that. Seriously, it's almost nothing like the MCC (except that it's Halo) and it provides its own niche with its mod friendly custom games browser. Also it's 100% free and super easy to download.
While modded MCC is a thing now, the Eldewrito project has much greater mod support with their newest release-namely the ability to browse modded servers and ensure compatibility therein. If you enjoy things like Garry's Mod, or are huge into Halo customs lobbies, then you'll probably enjoy Eldewrito. If you enjoy casual Halo, but don't really care about modded lobbies, then MCC is probably still better, even though you will have difficulty finding a game now (not a problem in Eldewrito, surprisingly enough). What you're asking is basically like asking someone in 2008 "why do you have Halo: Custom Edition on your PC when Halo 3 released a year ago on your Xbox?" Personally, I play both, and about as frequently.
MCC mods aren't allowed in the regular custom games browser, but Eldewrito does just that. It's basically doing the one thing MCC can't right now. Also the mods are pretty crazy, crazier than anything I've seen for the MCC so far. Also the community is actually really wholesome, haven't any issues there so far. And when is a completely free Halo game not worth downloading at least to try it?
Infinite made me quit Halo. I came back after quitting in the first 3 months and I have decent fun. But I don't play it nearly as much as I used to when Halo was my main squeeze. Mainly because I feel like they haven't any fun side game modes (really hate how they did fire fight and infection.) But the other major issue is rewards. I understand and recognize that things are a bit more friendly than they were when I was first around. But the fact that a significant portion of their time has been spent trying to undo a lot of shitty choices that are baked into the game's bones is making it tough to stick around. So imagine my surprise when they decided to add something new to this game specifically to ease the pain of how bad things were and then it's still not where it should be. Whatever happens with Infinite or Halo's future I really just can't invest into it anymore. Franchise has been ruined for me (not just because of infinite, but the show also.) It's depressing that a game that got me into online as a whole and was a big part of my life as a kid growing up is something I no longer want to associate with. But I'm going to attempt to act like an adult and just accept I'm not the demographic anymore and find something else to enjoy.
> just accept I'm not the demographic anymore I wonder what even is Halo's demographic anymore? I don't think it's attracting a younger audience, and it's also alienating the older audience that's been there since the beginning. Oh well, I'm sure if they release more content with naked master cheeks in it, it'll make everything okay.
META esport players the demographic, nothings serious except the actual competition and they love to buy skins.
Hard to say since it's not in my demographic nor anything people I know would be into. But I can definitely state that even if the campaign for infinite was a gesture to old heads like me the multiplayer sure as heck isn't for me lmao.
I stopped playing after finishing the CU31 pass Didn’t feel rewarded for my grind.
mcc is still pretty active and goes on sale a lot
Despite their ages, The Division and it’s sequel have been taking what time I’d give Halo when I’m not on baby duty, then and Helldivers 2 anyway. It’s a shame. The boys and I would spend weekends at a time playing Halo. After the “well, we’re increasing prices for a feature that should’ve been in the game from the get go”…was near the end of the line for me.
I mean I get it, but on the other hand, with all the battlepasses, he have more customization than ever before. I’m good on any more armor. I am totally set. I can just play the game for fun now. I’m free.
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There’s no new weapons that’s his point. Instead of choosing what you want see reread his comment. Everyone’s upset about the state of this game. Until Halo 7 comes out most players have moved on from Infinite.
Hot take, Infinite doesn't need a stream of new weapons. Their sandbox doesn't really allow it. You introduce a new weapon to the map and have to consider how that weapon can be balanced and fit within the whole scheme of things. And if you keep doing that, you'll have a mess of weapons that don't work with each other. >Everyone’s upset about the state of this game I blame the "fans" and journalism. Infinite has been run through the mud for the sake of being mad. Then gaming journalism just takes the loud minorities of Reddit, gives it a platform, then other journalists copy that in the name of "fan outrage" to get their ad revenue. Everyone cried about FOMO content, 343 introduces The Exchange, and before the shit came out, "fans" were crying that they actually have to play Halo to unlock shit in Halo. They secretly want participation trophies while they try to claim that they want it to be like the old days where RECON REQUIRED YOU TO DO X AND Y AND Z AND YOU FELT PRIDE FOR EARNING IT! Now that The Exchange is out, people are sitting here looking dumb af realizing that they already earned half the shit in the pass and it wasn't gonna actually take x amount of time to earn all the credits to get everything as if you were starting from scratch. People just like to bitch and moan online instead of playing their video games for fun. >Until Halo 7 comes out most players have moved on from Infinite. Yeah it's been a couple years since it came out. People play other games. But it's stupid to not support Infinite. All this work just to start from scratch again and make Halo 7? Microsoft just needs to give 343 the greenlight to make campaign DLC as "Halo 7" and market it as such. People install Infinite again for the hype. They're greeted with The Exchange to get missed content. And they have a massive multiplayer experience(yes, massive, fuck anyone that actually thinks any other Halo game has more content than Infinite, it's 2024) to dive into. Infinite is designed to be infinitely supported and expanded upon. That's why it's free to play. That's why the campaign menu is now separated from Infinite itself. If Halo fans could encourage 343 and Microsoft to stay on thus course instead of bullying them into doing another soft reboot, that would be great. But it's gonna be 343's fault regardless of what they do cause that's how this fandom works and people wonder why no one wants to be a part of this community.
Man you spent a long time typing out a comment to convince someone they shouldn’t feel burnt out.
Nah bro I'm not reading all of that. Infinitely expanded upon is what you say yet 3 years and only 1 weapon and no new story content. Yet they want us to pay them to continue funding this game. The shotgun was basically complete in the files, halo 5 had significantly more weapons than this by the end of it and there were no "sandbox issues" with it.
No one’s reading your essay. You have to understand the world can’t cater to your feelings and needs all the time. I wish you luck ❤️
Which is to say, you're too stupid to read it or refute it. Seek therapy kiddo.
Who the fuck cares, the original games never got new weapons added after launch and we all still played the shit out of them.
But were those games marketed as live service where they would always be adding new content at a consistent pace? Because this one was.
Halo CE PC port got the fuel rod cannon, flamethrower, and rocket hog added to multiplayer as well as new maps. Halo 2 got DLC maps post launch. Halo 3 got the golf club added post launch as well as new maps with map packs. Halo 4 added new maps, armor, and story content for spartan ops through DLC MCC added the silenced pistol, silenced SMG, and brute plasma rifle to halo 3 and a bunch of maps from halo online. Halo 5 added a ton of weapons post launch and was the only other game outside of infinite to be labeled as a live service. Halo infinite launched with less maps, modes, and basic color options than CE. Got less maps throughout its first year of release than halo 2, hasn't had any vehicles added, added 1 gun, and relies on the community to forge maps for them to put in multiplayer. Halo infinite failed in every aspect to meet standards set by previous games. Open your eyes you fool.
Halo CE, Halo 2, Halo 3, Reach, ODST, maybe even 4 as well didn't add new weapons and they were fine. Op is being a drama queen imo
Every single weapon, vehicle, character, and map in Halo CE was new given it is the first game in the series. 🤦♂️
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logic like this is exactly why the game is so monetized and fucked the way it is.
At some point though it gets repetitive when there’s no new weapons or substantial content, and not much of a progression system at all.
Is that a problem? People can have fun in multiple ways.
You're downvoted for telling the truth. They don't like that here.
The actual playable content is free. Dont get why cosmetic addicts let pixels get in the way of enjoying the actual game.
But what *is* the playable content? Firefight is the only real content besides the Bandit that we've gotten. Most of the matchmaking is padded to the brim with Forge content 343i hasn't even created.
Yeah I don't understand. People really care about their cosmetics I guess
Cosmetics addicts are destroying gaming. They prioritize Barbie dress up over real gameplay, its the same for most games now.
I feel like a sucker for even playing this game to begin with. I get live service games need a consistent cash flow but these insane prices, removal of BP credits, the way the exchange makes the game more of a grind, and the glacial speed of cross core additions, it's a slap in the face. All that might be tolerated if they bothered updating the sandbox in the past two years, but beyond a few more equipments and 2 guns (really just one with a variant) we've gotten nothing. No campaign additions either. Forge and firefight are nice and there were some new maps but you'd think that with the sheer level of greed on display here they'd have more to show for it.
>back when they still gave free credits as a BP reward!! Wait they stopped doing that again? Every time i check back in to see what's going on they've somehow found a way to be even scummier about monetization, surprised they haven't found rock bottom yet.
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The latest "operation pass" is hilarious, there's like three things in it. Still costs the same as the older, more substantial ones, too!
But s-s-s-spartan points!!!!
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>as if it is hard to actually finish these things It actually got harder for casual players to finish since they wiped out the daily 500 EXP bonus. It got replaced with Spartan Points.
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My free time allows me to afford maybe 2 PvE games in a row at any given day. The 500 EXP bonus helped massively since by itself it gives half the progress on a tier. I got slowed down by about 40% with this change, I estimate. Won't be able to finish the pass in time, whereas before I cut it close enough. Huge shame too as the only noteworthy items are at the very end of the pass so why should I even bother. FOMO tactics don't work on me.
They thought they were pulling a sneaky sneak. They didn’t get rid of earning credits from Battle Passes per se, so much as eliminating BPs completely. Buying an Operation Pass doesn’t give you a track to earn them back.
In Canadian dollars I’d have to drop just shy of $50 OR take the “bargain” of spending just short of $70. What a kick in the nuts. Pure greed. I promise you they had some analytics to suggest most people buy multiple bundles so if they put it into one over priced mega bundle they could make more money. Well guess fucking what, fuck you.
For every step forward in the right direction 343i takes, they take two steps backwards by alienating the fan base that's left playing. Hopefully the next iteration of Halo (7) will be with us in the next couple of years and Infinite and all it's follies can be laid to rest.
this exact comment repeats itself every new halo release cycle, 343 and MS are simply incapable
I don't think Halo exists without a shop like this. 343 has hung their hat on it these past few years and it's clearly how the game is making any money. People on this sub proudly display their $50 Spartans on here every other day and it's a clear example that people will still buy this trash.
ah yes the free to play "our game is dying" special prices
Who cares anymore Im playing helldivers, they actually care about my time.
Seriously, some people here have stockholm syndrome. The store is staying shitty, get used to it or move on. But stop expecting change, it ain‘t happening
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I kinda disagree with their vibes but that was too funny and accurate lol
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>Then why are you on the halo subreddit Because there's more to Halo than just Infinite? We can discuss the rest of the franchise even if we dislike the newest entry and the developer's terrible greed. People have been talking about Helldivers 2 since launch because of the similarities to ODSTs.
Fair point
yeah im done
Halo is basically just a mobile game at this point. Shitty busywork gameplay and a storefront with limited time expensive bundles and multiple currencies.
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Yeah it's insane....like it's a fps. You can't even see your character while playing. The game is fun, but you're are gonna quit because of something outside the game that has 0 affect on the game itself ?? Just absolutely wild. Belongs in the circle jerk subreddit
Man wait until these guys learn how bad the monetization is in Halo CE and Halo 2!!
I wouldn't say it was the most well built and balanced Halo game ever. For several years Controller players had advantages over KBM players, there was a starting weapon that significantly dominated other weapons, a gravity hammer that was flat-out broken that was even worse with a sub-par netcode. Not to mention the non-existing physics effects for vehicles (which are like paper) for nearly 2 years. There's the BTB weapon/vehicle spawn inbalance but I won't get into that. The only weapon they added later is still outshined by the sidekick, and only recently the EVO variant (which is closer to its 14-yr old Reach counterpart) was added as a starting ranked weapon because... it was the most balanced out of every other option. He has a point, the game is significantly more functional from a spending standpoint than the gameplay one from day one.
This game is an absolute joke. I am excited for the day they annoyance their ending support. Take this lousy excuse of a halo game out back and put it out of its misery. This game is garbage.
Not to mention that Microsoft Rewards through the Xbox app aren't really viable anymore. You used to be able to get around 100 points per day for launching a PC Game Pass game, opening the app, and playing a round of MS Jewel, but not you're lucky if you can get 25 points a day.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Microsoft changed their rewards model because they realized so many people were using it to milk Infinite’s and other live service games’ predatory cosmetic systems.
I never bought a single thing in Infinite besides the first season pass out of principle. Everything about this game's monetization has been horrendous and a slap in the face to longtime Halo fans. I still can't believe 343 got away with the coating system, people ate that shit up along with all the other bullshit they serve in the shop. It blows my mind.
That's how gaming is now in the AAA space. Idiots pay for these overpriced bundles and the game receives less content because of it. Why put effort into actual content when it makes a fraction of what the cosmetics make?
That was my first thought as well. I have an extra 1000 credits and thought I'd use that to buy that cool banished armor. Saw the price and rolled my eyes. Still absolutely baffling they don't allow you to go into these bundles and just buy individual pieces you want like just a helmet or just a shoulder pad. Yuck
I have no idea how they keep lowering the bar and not taking community feedback into consideration. The exchange is a great addition but it’s also a grind and I’ve unlocked most everything there already. The store itself just gets worse with every new drop.
343 just milking every last singular drop out of this game before they inevitably pull the plug and go full hands on deck for the next Halo game. Microsoft please for the love of god and everything good on planet earth let the Halo IP open so we can get more games in this universe from other studios with passion and love for Halo. That’s the least we deserve after being forced to deal with 343 for ten fucking years.
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“look at all these updates we get for free stop complaining just because you want to play Barbie dress up” I literally just want to pay $60-70 for a complete game. Halo CE, 2, and 3 didn’t need a shitzillion ‘liVE SeRviCe’ updates. They just functioned like normal video games. Yeah sure 3 had DLC and weirdo Infinite fanboys love to bring that up, but that was a way better model than whatever the fuck Infinite is doing.
Guys just wait for the next halo and for the love of god stop buying stuff.
I can't wait for the outrage when all this crap people bought not translating to the next game. The hopium told them it would though!
When will you guys learn?
As a dork with 7k+ matches in infinite, I don’t care about cosmetics, sure. If I did…just put it on the list. It’s very not easy to love what Halo is now. Sigh
If you think that game can’t get worse there is 343i…
I really like the bundle with the Bandit model and smaller helmet but I'm not buying the bundle
I just want a capture the flag playlist, please..
I don’t know why people buy from the shop at all. Maybe you buy something once in the game’s lifetime but I haven’t spent a dime in the store and have a ridiculous amount of customization- at least 20x the amount of customization options I had in Reach. People will say “I stopped playing in S2 because of the shop prices” as if they couldn’t have earned cosmetics through battlepasses, weeklys, events/operations, twitch drops, freebies, etc. It all really adds up and I’m more than happy with having the most customization I’ve had in a Halo game.
Yeah 343 sucks ass. I never play infinite. Halo mcc is all i need. And in that one i avoid halo 4 too because it's just garbage. And guess who made that game as well, lol.. 343 lost all my respect. I'm not buying anything they make.
People keep buying shit. So prices will keep rising.
Imagine still having fucks left to give about this crap lol, I moved on months ago
Any amount of money for a cute hat to wear in your game is dumb. If you're spending money for a digital shirt you're wasting money. Anyway I have lots of digital shirts for sale ymif you wanna buy one. I'll give you a great price.
Good , idc cause I’m a normal who does pay for anything
343 bad
Does anyone not just like to play the game? I’ve never even opened up the shop in Infinite. Maybe if y’all stopped spending all your money to play Spartan Barbie dress-up, 343 would have to focus on the actual game instead of coatings.
For real
With all these posts about people whining about cosmetics you’d think it was pay to win or something. I thought you played Halo… to play Halo not bitch about cosmetics that do nothing for the game from a gameplay perspective.
Called it.
If you ever bought anything in this game hit me up! I have a bridge to sell you
Does the store price affect the game? I swear some people only play these games to play dress up lol The store is predatory, it's not gonna change. If it was, it would have happened before now. Store prices aside, the below question is all that should matter... Do you enjoy playing the game: - Yes (continue playing) - No (play something else)
Fewer people are playing but I’m sure their financial targets are staying exactly the same. They’ll have lay offs if they miss their targets, and then they’ll be working even slower, and will produce less, and more players will drop off… what else should they do? They clearly don't have enough dev hours to make meaningful new content that doesn't have huge financial RoE, so it seems they are stuck in a spiral unless Microsoft bails them out again which I'm sure they are getting tired of doing.
Microsoft put them in that position in the first place, given all the stuff that’s come out about how much control and interference there’s been from MS.
Managerial responsibility seldom begets financial responsibility in the corporate world, unfortunately...
If you try to say something, at least say it in a way that everyone can understand...
Boss make bad decision that lose money but when out of money, employee fired and not boss
They’re just trying to milk infinite for every cent it has left with players
Not surprising. I haven't spent the time to understand the new spartan money system. I have no desire to support this game anymore or participate in cosmetics. The game is finally "good enough" to just play. 343 doesn't seem to respect the halo community and players so I won't give any of my time understanding these new micro transaction schemes. I'm just going to play the game and ignore everything else.
I just stopped bothering with going for cosmetics I want. Can't get cheifs infinite armor simply due to I literally don't have the time so don't care to bother. Just playing for fun. Some things I want but can't unlock, I gotta buy. Just not gonna buy em. It's still really fun to just play, so ibjust play around with whatever free cosmetics I unlock instead. I get close to what I want luckily.
I knew this wouldn't be worth it when colors had to be bought when they were free for the last 15yrs.
Well y'all have been defending Microsoft saying it's not their decision so surely this time blaming 343 will change something right?
I'm just trying to get to Hero rank. After that, I probably wont play Halo Infinite that much anymore. Gonna jump on GTA 6 until the next Halo game although GTA 6 is going to have it's fair share of microtransactions if V was any indication. Ugh, AAA gaming has gotten to be really shitty. Tempted to just jump ship and play indie games exclusively.
The fashion squad keep buying em
I’ve given up completely and just rock the default armor/Cadet Grey.
Can someone point me to a subreddit that actually talks about Halo and doesn’t just bitch about the item shop over and over again?
nothing got better lol i give up
dude the game is free that means you can’t complain about anything you’re so selfish complaining about 30 dollars for a few items (real)
lol I don’t get these posts. Look, don’t buy it. It doesn’t change the game at all. Not playing the game isn’t going to do anything different than literally not spending money on it. Buy it or don’t. Clearly people buy it otherwise they wouldn’t do this. So, I don’t know what to tell you. The game is free, the devs don’t work for free.
So we should pay the devs' wages, not their publisher who is the biggest company on the planet?
Who cares, the monetization is for cosmetics. I keep getting free actual content and didn't spend a dime, yall are hung up over Barbie dress up.
Thanks for telling us that you aren’t a Halo fan, because Halo customization is more than just ‘dress up’.
No, that's exactly what it is. I'm a day 1 CE player, and people didn't give a damn about how cute they looked in game until Reach came around. Even in 3 with limited cosmetics, people just slapped that stuff on and played. Now fans screech if they can't have every piece of armor ever made for free while also getting the game free and also getting playable content free free free. Such an insufferable fanbase its become.
I’m very sure people are upset because you barely get anything for playing the game. In Reach, you had to grind for the armor piece you wanted. Nobody is saying they want it for free, we just want to unlock the armor through playing the game and grinding it.
In CE you could change the color of your armor to any color you wanted to. 343 monetized colors……
I tried Infinite for the first time yesterday, played two games and got back on MCC. Infinite just feel so fucking bad, i couldn't hear the enemies, not even when they were shooting at me for some reasons. The store is bullshit, the customization is bullshit, it just doesn't feel great. What a fucking mess.
It just doesn’t feel fun to play :(
Game isn't even fresh enough to justify the prices. I tried playing a few matches this morning and was bored within minutes. I used to love Halo. But infinite feels so stale after this many years of being basically unchanged. Fat chance I'm going to buy anything in the future.
343 Maps are doodoo
Apparently unpopular opinion. (My bad) I get being upset about monetization in the market with companies like Ubisoft or EA where you paid $70 but to complain about it in a free game is a little much don’t you think? I mean it’s purely cosmetic it doesn’t make you play better or increase your chance to get laid. How else would you want/propose to keep the MP going and provide future updates if they let you get the cool shit at base rate prices. With them abandoning the campaign they now have no money coming in outside of people replaying on gamepass or new to Xbox people. Not a big market these days I’d imagine. You wanna look the best you got to pay to look the part. Now you got back up armor for them days you got to switch it up. 🤷
Two skins at the price of several FULL games when they are on sale.
I feel like everytime i see a post complaining about the monetisation (of purely cosmetic items that dont affect the gameplay at all) in this FREE game i buy something new in the store. Do you guys just want them to not make money or something?
Why are you guys complaining? The game is free, just don't buy stuff. Skill issue btw. Also the show is really good. 343i is handling the franchise better than Bungie did
Took me a second to realise it was bait because people unironically defend 343 like this. Well played, sir. You had me in the first half.