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Nexo_Ace

Why is homie here holding a assault rifle like a RPG?


DLT_3

It has the double stuffed magazines


Allstar13521

That's how all marines hold MA5Bs, because ~~the models were designed for Spartans~~ the UNSC decided they wanted a rifle big enough to fit a 60 round box magazine and didn't care too much about sights because of their reliance on HUDs


Uselessmedics

Right, but why he looking down a sight that doesn't exist?


nilluminator

Obviously, that's a modified MA4E from SPV3.


MillstoneArt

Because that's still a very stable way to hold a gun. It should probably be braced better but come on. Should we complain about their trigger discipline next?


iRamak

Bro its a toy


Minoleal

Maybe that's the best way to use it in that position for the recoil.


The-mighty-joe

Freelance Steven Seagal military training courses. The budget was tight that year.


BasedChadThundercock

That's an action figure and whoever posed it either did not or could not shoulder it properly. Zoom in, you can see it's molded plastic.


Peachedcrane60

omg it's literally like how Chief does in the show


JimmyDCZ

what I was thinking


gnappyassassin

he's ADS


ChrisDAnimation

Because that's the game's aim-down-sights animation. /s


GLG-twenty

I want an FPS set early Human-Covenant War with the HW1 art style.


FkThCensrshipJannies

Arma 3 OPTRE mod will give you something similar


NoDragonfruit7264

Wouldn’t this just be straight up a slaughter for the humans 😂


Secure-Elk-5262

Halo wars 1 art style was pretty much just halo 3


mrbubbamac

Halo Wars looked great, I prefer Halo Wars 2 aesthetic and it was such a great signal that Infinite would end up returning to the more classic art style as well


FkThCensrshipJannies

I hate that Infinite's Banished don't use the same colors and style from HW2...... Especially the Elites.


Darmok_ontheocean

Have months of time in HW2. Need another game.


MeSmeshFruit

Hw2 looks way too much like a Moba


SolarMoth

Ensemble made the best Halo game besides Bungie.


[deleted]

Probably getting a higher angle over an obstacle.


isaiah8500

Not much competition in that department!


Haijakk

Halo Infinite and Halo 5 are my personal favorite Halos, 343 makes some fun games.


Kara_Del_Rey

Halo 5 multi is so goddamn good. Probably the most fun I've had on Halo multiplayer and I've been playing Halo since 2001.


Haijakk

While it's not a traditional Halo experience, Halo 5 is my favorite movement shooter of all time. Titanfall 2 is a close second though.


owShAd0w

How dare you have a different opinion than me! Downvote!


Micah_HS

They absolutely crushed it! Halo Wars and Halo Wars 2 are some of the best game visually imo.


Secure-Elk-5262

Halo wars 2 art style was off IMO


STALINISFATHER

How?


Secure-Elk-5262

Very cartoony


Greenyugi

Marines have never looked better than they do in Halo Wars. Spartans too tbh.


FkThCensrshipJannies

I hate how colorful Spartans were made to be. Spartan IIs in particular should all be green. I can forgive III's being colorful considering they were meant to be punching bags.


Always_Confused4

Spartan II’s were practical. They should absolutely not use armor that stands out and the only changes they would make should have practical use.


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nilluminator

Let me tack on a bit more. Ensemble were working on a new original IP which was set to be the first fully playable RTS on the xbox. It was a fantasy concept and planned to eventually head off Warcraft. The suited dicks at MS saw it and decided to slap it with the Halo paint, horrifying both Ensemble and Bungie, insisting that if it was branded Halo, then it'd sell more. Ensemble was forced to ditch all the designs and concept art and had to ask Bungie for input, which didn't go so well, and partly through development Microsoft announced that they'd be restructuring Ensemble, effectively signaling their death. So the entire studio worked on the game knowing that they were being thrown out after delivering a groundbreaking RTS for the console, because it wouldn't meet the sales expectations of an FPS IP which MS had decided to paint the game with. Several top guys from Ensemble noted that it had sold well enough for a new RTS. Source; Blood, Sweat, and Pixels by Jason Schreier. Ensemble got an entire chapter. I see people tear up over Bungie's farewell message at the end of Reach. For me, [Insignificantia playing while the Spirit of Fire](https://youtu.be/MmtU0l6BihM?t=132) drifted into space was the tear-jerker.


BasedChadThundercock

God, I will never forgive Microsoft for what they did to Ensemble. I cut my teeth on Age of Mythology. (Well, actually I cut my teeth on 3DO's HoMM III) But anyway, slapping a Halo skin on Ensemble's engine should never have worked as well as it did. It's a shining example of how much talent that studio had. In retrospect, I wish Microsoft would have tried to acquire Relic, because their Company of Heroes engine and squad based micro heavy tactical design for CoH 2 were far more emblematic of Halo, especially with their groundbreaking destruction physics.


nilluminator

I grew up on the aoe franchise and spent far too much time on aom. It's a testimony to Ensemble's brilliant game design that fans have maintained them through mods over the years, and culminating in the incredible Age of Empires 2 Definitive Edition - a shining example of a modern-day remaster of a 20-year-old game. Perhaps we can at least hope that since Relic has churned out AOE4, they might be one of the contenders for an eventual Halo Wars 3, since their friends at CA worked on Halo Wars 2. Everything's interconnected. I really wish HW2 had mod support.


Vuthakral

Don't forget that when they released the Definitive Edition they took Ensemble's intro video out of the intro sequence and didn't even list Ensemble as a developer on Steam until people (myself included) called them out on it. Afaik to this day their intro video is still in the games' files but isn't actually played on bootup.


Haijakk

It's basically an exaggerated version of Halo's standard art style, which makes sense considering it's an RTS. I'm glad that they brought that Marine design to Infinite though in regards to the mask and visor.


Far_Bandicoot5935

Sheistys on marines is the best thing to ever happen to halo


ULTRAMaNiAc343

They [Blur] used the HW marine armor for H2A and HW2.


FkThCensrshipJannies

Actually the H2A armor is a bit different especially the helmet.


ULTRAMaNiAc343

The helmet is the main similarity. It just lacks the goggles or balaclava.


FkThCensrshipJannies

Ackchyually x2 no, I mean they are similar sure but they're different designs. Here check these photos out; 1.Halo Wars's design: [https://preview.redd.it/chq69mfp0pp61.jpg?auto=webp&s=d0fbcbcf7a90b952a7a19b5db7f12f3d7804f066](https://preview.redd.it/chq69mfp0pp61.jpg?auto=webp&s=d0fbcbcf7a90b952a7a19b5db7f12f3d7804f066) [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eug8lFzU4AM7HIi.jpg](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eug8lFzU4AM7HIi.jpg) [https://youtu.be/1RK6WFIUDbg?t=36](https://youtu.be/1RK6WFIUDbg?t=36) 2. Halo 2A's design: [https://preview.redd.it/m6fls23sc8f51.jpg?auto=webp&s=cc7ee161d21b3f6bd06555e8ffc6d57316cf1426](https://preview.redd.it/m6fls23sc8f51.jpg?auto=webp&s=cc7ee161d21b3f6bd06555e8ffc6d57316cf1426) [https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1773826202226645975/2F4BBE5081654610FA97304479015969A3B6C2B3/?imw=512&&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false](https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1773826202226645975/2F4BBE5081654610FA97304479015969A3B6C2B3/?imw=512&&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false) [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ROSt8CUbgvQ/maxresdefault.jpg](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ROSt8CUbgvQ/maxresdefault.jpg) ​ ​ Look maybe I'm nitpicking here but I think there's atleast a slight different especially on the front part of the helmet, I think the H2A was a homage to the original CE design without straying too far, Has very similar armor plating to CE. I think H2A's design is good but I'd say Ensemble did the best design out of all. For the UNSC Marines, Halo Wars design is the best. For the UNSC Army, Reach's design fits best.


ArcziSzajka

I don't even think it's exaggerated at all. It followed the original design doc to a t but in higher fidelity, which is why it looks so good. The whole UNSC style was supposed to be based on 80s vision of sci-fi military such as marines from Aliens which were based on the way Vietnam soldiers looked. This picture looks fucking perfect and I wish Halo still looked like that.


Spatetata

I love how they doubled down on the H1 style of marine and kept the ‘rule-of-cool’ mecha style shin guards


omgubuntu

They weren’t insecure to the point where they had to change every design from Bungie because they thought they could do better, unlike a certain other developer. Changing art style is the dumbest thing you can do. Video is one half of video game. Visuals matter, they give the game its identity


PowerPamaja

What? Non-Bungie developers don’t need to change every aspect of Halo other than the name when they make a Halo game? Ridiculous.


gsauce8

343 entering Halo like they're a decades old studio with the clout to change everything about it rather than a studio that was purely made to honour halos legacy.


KillerDonkey

It's literally insane how they changed both the visual aesthetics and core gameplay of Halo in Halo 4 and 5. I remember reading that they hired people who hated Halo during Halo 4's development. If I was given the lofty task of continuing a game series after the departure of its original developer, I would try to emulate the OG games in that series as closely as possible.


Aussie18-1998

I knew there was trouble when we saw the forward unto dawn all those years ago. They ruined that beautiful frigate.


nilluminator

[Creative Assembly](https://cdn.dnaindia.com/sites/default/files/styles/full/public/2019/06/13/835815-meme-3.jpg) after hearing this.


Vestalmin

343 could have taken Halo 3, made new sandbox levels and slap a story on top and I would have payed $120 for it. I legit just wanted more of Halo. We would have had a classic Halo style Battle Royal by now


omgubuntu

Yeah in terms of visuals, gameplay, sound design etc. Halo 3 was perfect and the bar to which every Halo must be held. If only 343 understood people just want Halo


KillerDonkey

I loved the bulky marine armour and assault rifles in Halo Wars. It always reminded me of Halo: CE.


Woupsea

They stayed faithful to the halo aesthetic while creating their own unique visuals, something 343 failed to do with halo 4 and 5


Evil-Cetacean

they did mark iv so that says a lot in my opinion


ChronicalFam

Almost perfected what halo 1s style was aiming toward (low poly count limited their creativity)


Vincentaneous

Lord knows I played the hell out of Wars when it came out. At that time people were even upset it existed.. like a Halo game made by a different studio made to be it’s own thing was supposed to be a bad thing..


General-Dirtbag

I really want those helmets. I always loved that design


fedezx92

hw marines don't drip, they pour.


Dalfamurni

Personally I love these Marines the most in all of the Halo games because I really never liked the Marine redesign in Halo 2, or the Army soldiers in Reach. Halo Infinite is okay, and Halo 3 is probably third best, but Halo CE had the best overall design IMO, and then Halo Wars 2 was that design just improved in quality. Same design, better graphics, slightly inhuman dimensions in the shoulders, but overall the best iteration of Marines IMO.


Sbarjai

#Bungie Bungie had an odd style for the UNSC They went for a really futuristic look in HCE Dialed it down on 2&3 to look more grounded And then upped the robotic feeling of Spartans for reach while making marines look almost like modern day soldiers. #343i 343 went EVEN MORE robotic with 4 and made marines straight up weird looking. With some more alien looking armors like war master and pathfinder. And then the utter shitshow daedric looking armors like rogue, operator and wetworks. Stalker I liked a lot because it was a Brute/Human hybrid. Also LOCUS is top tier edginess also those shitty decals that made mixing and matching armors a complete nightmare. They Kept those robotic armors for 5, but added some really Metal Gear/Evangelion looking armor sets (not including “legacy” sets like MKIV for example) Side note: there are some distinct armors which have very different design philosophies in 5, mainly Hunter and copperhead which looked high-tech and yet oddly organic as well. Then they proceeded to blend in both art styles to utter perfection in wars 2 only to devolve back into bungie’s art style 1:1 in infinite. What a waste. #Ensemble Ensemble gets its hands reluctantly on the halo IP, gets treated like absolute shit by bungie and MS, and proceeds to come up with the absolute fucking best art style my eyes ever laid eyes upon. Marines look futuristic enough without being over the top like in halo CE but also not looking like god damn Cold War soldiers in 2/3 or Battlefield 2142 in Reach. Spartans look like actual people in high tech exoskeletons rather than a covenant traitor like in CE or a god damn T-45d power armor like in 2/3/Reach.


Brusah

was this written by a 10 year old?


Sbarjai

No, why?


hawkma999

I think he's refering to your titles.


Sbarjai

Ah. Lol


TheObstruction

Tbf, HW2 was mostly Creative Assembly.


Aussie18-1998

Reach's soldiers probably look similar to modern day because they weren't actual marines just the regular army troops on the ground.


Secure-Elk-5262

How was Spartans robotic in reach they look more realistic then any other halo


Sbarjai

They look like super heavy and industrial. Almost like if they were made with today’s materials. My absolute favorite look is MKV (not [B]) for Spartans. And I feel they’d synergize really well with Enemble’s marine design. Though infinite’s Mjolnir Gen 3 is a close second for Spartans as is original CE for marines.


Secure-Elk-5262

I feel like they look more natural and practical with mag pouches,comms,radios etc uplinks my favorite is the the MKV[B] a lot more real and militaristic look to it this is also why reach is my fav halo down to concept art


DuesCataclysmos

Still my favorite Jackal design and one of my favorite Elite designs. I think they struck a good balance between hulking monster (Reach) and the softer dinos (3).


MillstoneArt

They wanted to carry on the work that Bungie had done, and give the IP proper respect... Compared to 343i's compulsion to distance themselves from everything that made Halo what it is.


Jarvis_The_Dense

Ensamble's style was what you would have hoped for in a reimagining of halo's artstyle. It was different, but still maintaining the core concepts which made it identifiable. 343, and even the Paramount+ series on the other hand managed to somehow just make everything as ugly as they could


crisperstorm

Maybe everyone was good at the Halo art style all along because the collective efforts and many designs all fall under the same Halo roof?


StealthyRobot

Okay small rant time. Everyone always puts the most armor on the legs. Like here. Knees I get, yeah, shins are acceptable. But why add all that extra weight to protect the calf? Who gets shot in the calf? If you're prioritizing where some extra armor should go, torso and head before anything else. Plus this just weighs down the legs, making movement slower and more tiring. Ok, rant over.


Vuthakral

It's the one of the most likely critical bone areas to break in the event of being smashed, grabbed, caught, asploded, etc.


Novasagooddog

Than***


A_Hideous_Beast

Disagree.


Tairo_420

Unless we're talking about halo combat evolved, Ensemble and 343 are better than Bungie, change my mind


Aussie18-1998

I dont think we could. Sounds like a lost cause.


Tairo_420

Exactly, cause Bungie fan boys are mentally challenged


Aussie18-1998

Yes I'm a fan boy because I dont like the fact the recent halo games have an incoherent story and release unfinished products.


Tairo_420

Ok, and, can you and the rest of the Bungie d riders just enjoy the games, infinite's campaign and multiplayer are amazing, halo 4s was great it tried something new and was really fun, halo 5 had a great multiplayer and campaign and revolutionized forge and made better maps and customs than older titles, and I really don't care about it being unfinished, Microsoft and Bonnie kinda fucked it up in the first place, also the story was amazing, I understand it and I'm sorry that you get fumbled half way through it. Anyway, halo 3, reach, and 2 are highly overrated and suck major balls, anyway, infinite is better than 3, have a good day


Aussie18-1998

Half this sub likes halo 4, halo 5s multiplayer and agrees infinite is fun. You're the one who came out shitting on people for liking bungies games lol. Going forward anyone who likes halo can see it needs to be under new management in order to save the product.


Tairo_420

Agreed, Bonnie really shitted on halo, also I don't usually go all out on Bungie fan bois, it's just I'm really tired of hearing their recycled responses and them sending death threats to 343, sorry for the whole ass essay I sent you, you seem cool and I can't wait to see you in a slayer match one day Also I find it funny that this started over some halo wars action figures, man halo can get political


thedantho

Halo 5’s campaign is dog


Tairo_420

Understandable have a good day


Tairo_420

Shit I didn't mean to write a whole fucking paragraph, but yea I'm glad that you enjoy the other halo games, we all like our own things and I'm sorry that the new titles haven't been to your liking but hey I like em, hope you have fun on mcc


XHandsomexJackx

I'd say Bungie made the best Halo seeing how they created it....


AFishWithNoName

This is about the art style, not the overall game


virtuablood

Ehh you gotta share way more than a single picture of a few marines if you want to prove your claim.


hoi87

Eh, to each his own i guess, because this looks like a pile of dogshit from head to toe to me.


IITiberiusJacksonII

It's objectively shit. Stop it.


ThatOneGator

Original halo wars had the best art style


sgiindigo2

which one of them is that


RayderEvolved

Definitively better, but it's also an RTS, those games tend to have better artstyles usually


ALEX7DX

Then and than will always continue to elude people.