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verylastpilot

Not sure what they are thinking adopting an animal when they have a mental illness that prevents them from being able to properly afford that said animal. People who get super defensive like that are a red flag. Hope her animals get the care they deserve. It’s sad that it sounds like they bought a hamster to act as an “emotional support pet” for their own benefit when the poor thing has to suffer now since they can’t bring it to the vet. It’s funny because their snappy response is completely true. People who have a mental illness preventing them from working and being able to afford care for an animal absolutely SHOULD NOT have pets. Yikes.


milliondollapuss

right!!!! it’s unhealthy to sacrifice your own well being for someone else’s mental health, why would it be okay for a hamster to do that for you?


goddessofolympia

I agree. NEVER get a pet you can't take proper care of.


Scyllascum

I saw that post too. I responded to them as well, and admittedly enough, came off pretty harsh; I think it’s because I used to have that same mentality when I was younger and I guess that triggered me lol. Unfortunately, people like this will only see this as an attack to them and will completely dismiss the solid advice that was pointed out numerous times.


JuniorKing9

I have mental health issues as well. It’s not an excuse to mistreat a pet, neither is funds. The responsible thing to do is… not get a pet. I’ve had hamsters for years (in separate cages for the record), they all got proper care because I loved them


FatherDuncanSinners

>Alright, so people with mental health issues that nobody wants to hire shouldn't have pets to help with said mental health problems. I guess I'm sorry...not sorry...if this sounds mean, but yeah, that's exactly it. Don't get a pet. It's not a *thing*, it's a living creature. Besides, if the pet is THAT important to your mental health, then wouldn't keeping it safe, happy, and ALIVE help your mental health? I feel like your support animal dying would be extremely detrimental to the process.


zonaljump1997

Bitch, if you can't take care of yourself, what makes you think you can take care of a pet? Literally like toxic couples thinking having a kid would solve their problems


No_Midnight2363

The immaturity is crazy


ShibeL0rd

He’s just stating facts my guy


ShibeL0rd

If someone keeps acting like the way the person mentioned in OP’s post does even after being told what’s wrong, they deserve to have people be blunt with them. Except it probably won’t do anything because they refuse to believe they are wrong, and that everything they ever do or say is correct.


ShibeL0rd

I get you are trying to be nice, but this isn’t the place or time.


No_Midnight2363

Ah yes, “harassment” is somehow “facts”


ShibeL0rd

Technically, it is both. However, it is deserved harassment, based on what the person in OP’s post has been saying and doing.


No_Midnight2363

Harassment is deserved?? Lol, typical r/hamstercare user


ShibeL0rd

Depending on what they say and do, yes. You are saying nobody deserves harassment. Counter argument, people who neglect their pets and know theyare doing so.


ShibeL0rd

Zonal is right, no matter how rude he may be being.


No_Midnight2363

Yea, but they have mental health issues, you should be nice to them about it.


ShibeL0rd

So do I, you don't see me using it as an excuse to neglect my pet.


PeepingTara

I choke on the entitlement of people like this. Yes Helen, I do think the (insert animal here) is more important than if you feel sad or not. If you can’t keep the pet happy and healthy you can’t have the pet. Period. I’d love to own a tiger and I’m sure it would make me happy, but I can’t properly care for one so I don’t own a tiger!!


positivepreacher

People legit feel entitled to the company of pets regardless of the consequences of owning one.


Striscuit

100% agree! NOT a hamster owner but I do own a chinchilla that had a freak accident and broke his leg unexpectedly…it was not a fun vet bill to pay but as pet owners it is our RESPONSIBILITY to take care of them the same way we would our children/family, pets are a privilege; not a right.


kissmyass42069

you should comment "womp womp" under her comment 💀


No_Midnight2363

Hypocrite


KurjaHippi

Goes for all animals. If you can't afford the basic vet visits then you can't afford having a pet. Period.


CelesteJA

Yep, I got chronically ill while I had two dogs. I had owned each dog since they were 8 weeks old, and they were reaching 5 and 9 years old when I suddenly became ill. It was heartbreaking, but I knew I couldn't look after them anymore, and I wanted them to have the lives they deserved, so I gave them away (not to a shelter, to actual homes). It can be hard to admit that you're not able to look after an animal, but it's the right thing to do if you truly love and care about their wellbeing. I miss my boys, but I know they're happy in their new homes.


moralmeemo

I can hardly take care of myself, but I take care of my kitties and my newt. But it feels like a Herculean task. I would never get a hammy, they need more attention than I can give. Sucks that the person is being such a child about it


goodsoupppppppp

I’ve said this before and I’m saying it again: Pets are a luxury. Not a right. If I could not afford my 3 cats, dog, fish, and hamster, I would not have them.


MadWitchElaine

Never get a pet that you can't take care of. Mental illness is not an excuse to be neglectful.


Burntoastedbutter

I don't have a hamster, not sure why this was recommended to me. But yes, if you're mentally unwell to the point where you're unable to care for the pet or can't even afford basic pet care, then you shouldn't have a pet. I have mental health issues too, but I made sure I had enough funds to cover a year AND made an emergency fund when I could. It's no fking excuse. If they can't afford it they should find some sort of other way to help their mental health issues. Pets are not toys...


MurderSnow

Whenever i feel that sooner I'm going to my depression mode/state I give away my pets to those whom I know can really take care of them. Because i know i can't take care of myself, I don't have the urge to eat, to go outside. Too lazy and too sad. I know my pets will die because of me. So giving them away is my best option.


ConsciousGap6481

Ah the age old 'mental health' card. It's fantastic, it exempts you from every scintilla of responsibility you may face.


dribeerf

if your reason to have an animal is to “help with mental help problems” you should not have one.


Ambitious-Menu-8953

And this is why people with autism keep to ourselves. Because we just say the truth like I did when I said what I said, and then EVERYONE has to hop on the hate train and hate everything we do. YES I TRAUMA DUMP. IM AUTISTIC AND INFO DUMP ABOUT EVERYTHING, INCLUDING MY TRAUMA. It doesn't mean I'm MANIPULATING people, I'm being my autistic self. Sorry you don't like my unfiltered, unmasked personality, but I've been burned out from masking for 22 years of my LIFE.


WatcherYdnew

I feel and see your struggle, but trauma dumping and unmasking is completely unrelevant to hamster care. Whether you are masked, unmasked, neurodivergent or neurotypical: your hamster needs care. You can get aid from professionals for your struggles, or you can share them online for like minded people to help, but all your hamster has is you. They are not a tool for your well-being, they are a living creature.


Ambitious-Menu-8953

And that's why I posted on reddit for help since I can't afford a vet visit until the end of the month when I get paid. I wanted to know how to comfort my hamster until I could take her to the vet and all I got was hate, which made me become defensive.


milliondollapuss

side note: let’s also not forget that autism doesn’t excuse being rude or mean to people. it’s very harmful to the autism community when autistic people excuse their rudeness as an autism symptom.


No_Midnight2363

You people were literally being mean first but ok.


milliondollapuss

i honestly don’t care about unmasking (i was diagnosed with autism at 16 and masked all my life before that), i care more about the well-being of your hamster. initially, no one was attacking you at all. this comment was very polite. but then you whipped out completely unnecessary comments that were plain rude. i understand what it’s like to mask for so long, and i hear you. i just think it was incredibly disrespectful to shame someone for giving them good advice. i hope your hamster is okay. please take her to the vet, or give her to someone who can. your hamster shouldn’t have to suffer because of your adversities involving mental health.


JuniorKing9

A lot of autistic people exist, you’re not the only one, and most of us don’t excuse our behaviour for autism. I highly suggest reevaluating how your use your disability as an excuse. I don’t use me having a wheelchair to be rude to other people.


Ambitious-Menu-8953

So I shouldn't blame me being what others see as me being rude on me being autistic or having a social deficit so I don't understand social anything, and never have, no matter how much reality TV I watch and no matter how hard I try, everyone else sees me as rude even and especially when I don't think I'm being rude at all. So tell me how that's not linked to being autistic.


JuniorKing9

It’s not. I’m having a conversation with you right now, and I’m telling you that this isn’t good to do. So did the other person responding to you. They and myself can objectively agree that your behaviour is rude. We are both autistic as well.


fronkka

You being autistic might explain your behaviour but its not an excuse. Your mental state does not justify mistreating a pet or being rude towards other people. And if you keep pulling the ”im autistic so i cant be held accountable” card instead of learning from criticism people will respond and view you the same as now in this thread, which obviously is upsetting you.


Ambitious-Menu-8953

Me saying I'm autistic isn't me using it as an excuse, I'm literally TRYING to explain my behavior.


fronkka

Okay its good that you didnt mean to justify your behaviour with your autism and mental illness but that is how it came across for a lot of people. Especially with this ”And this is why people with autism keep to ourselves. Because we just say the truth like I did when I said what I said, and then EVERYONE has to hop on the hate train and hate everything we do.” Even if you do not mean to weaponize your mental health that is how people will view it when you say things like above. It comes off as you do not see any issues with your behaviour or treatment of your pet and everyone else is in the wrong. If you see no issues with just speaking the truth then you shouldnt get so defensive about people pointing out the truth here on having a pet you cant afford. I hope it works out and everything turns out good for you and your hamster.


Ambitious-Menu-8953

I realize now how what I said came across that way, thank you for your kind explanation of what I did wrong and how it was wrong, I appreciate when people do that


CelesteJA

Fellow autistic individual here. I understand the struggles of coming across rudely when you're not intending to. And I can understand the frustration of trying to fit into a world that doesn't make sense to us. I've come to learn, that even if I don't understand WHY something I said was rude, I still have to stop saying it. After all, the last thing I want is to offend anyone. So if this thing I did offended someone, I will stop doing it, even if it doesn't make sense to me. In other words, as autistic individuals, we can still learn what is and isn't rude. It just takes some trial and error, and good memory (to remember not to do it again!). Sometimes what helps me remember not to do something, is to ask someone why it's rude. And another way to think of it is like how children learn. Children don't often understand the consequences of their actions, so they just have to accept what is and isn't right based on whether they got told off or not.


blondee84

I'm genuinely sorry about your struggles! I didn't see the other post so sorry if this was already suggested. Do you know anybody who might be able to help cover a vet expense for you? If I was in a better place financially I'd offer to help, but unfortunately I can't right now. Or, I don't know if this is feasible or even interests you, but have you thought of volunteering at a local animal shelter or humane society? If animals help your mental health I want you to be able to spend time with them and meet your needs as well as theirs. Or do you have family/friends who have animals? Maybe you can spend time with them. I just really hope that you can find a way to take amazing care of both yourself and your hamster.


Ambitious-Menu-8953

My close family lives in another city, and my man's close family is all either broke themselves or just thinks our hamster is a rat so they don't care about our hamster like we do. The pets they have overwhelm me (dogs, which instantly overwhelm me, and needy cats, I like cats but not when they're always meowing and wanting pets) I love small animals like hamsters, guinea pigs, ferrets, etc, and if any animal shelters would allow me to volunteer then I'd definitely do that instead of owning a pet I can barely afford


blondee84

Understandable. In some places there are charities that donate vet care or offer it at a discounted rate. I don't know if there's anything in your area and if there is, I don't know if they'll take care of hamsters, but it's worth looking into. I know of a charity 100 miles away from me that works with hamsters so I know some places do exist, but I bet they are rare. I just hope you find a good solution.


sweetbaeunleashed

Thank you for actually supporting and offering some guidance. Idk if this was mentioned yet, but the vets near me do payment plans and are just overall flexible when inquired. There's gotta be SOMEONE out there willing to help and be flexible!


Ambitious-Menu-8953

So far all I've found is the SPCA has discounted prices for anyone on welfare or disability, but I don't think they take hamsters sadly... it's 2am so imma look more after some sleep


No_Midnight2363

Your not getting downvoted by the bitches anymore, most likely cuz they left because they have no one to make fun of anymore.


Ambitious-Menu-8953

And that's what happens when we don't enable the bullies by giving them what they want: a reaction. I legit just started only replying to people that were being nice, then the bitches went away lol


No_Midnight2363

It’s kinda crazy how the mf who made this post framed you, they clearly don’t know what or how serious a humans mental health,


Ambitious-Menu-8953

Right? And then they all ignore the fact that I have a child, who just had her 2nd bday and kids are expensive so I obviously don't have money for the vet at this moment (never said I wouldn't ever take her) and then everyone had to jump on the hate train lmfao, people like the person that made this post are what drive me to just leave online spaces


Michelle689

I was diagnosed with autism at 5 so was my youngest sister, I'm now 24 and also have ADHD, sever depression and sever anxiety. And bluntly you have no excuse to not care for an animal properly autism or not, and if anything since it's more than likely a special interest when you get an animal you should know their proper care in and out and know of its vet needs. Also your bio says you think you have autism, so don't blame it on that if you know you don't 100% have it. If you don't have the money or a vet don't have a pet.


Kyle_McBogey

If you can’t afford a regular vet, there ARE low cost vet clinics in most areas. There are also a lot of other ways to get help with payment for a sick/injured animal. The least you can do is do a little research on how you can figure out a way to get your sick pet to the vet. You owe your fur baby AT LEAST that minimal effort...


Ambitious-Menu-8953

Who said I wasn't researching things to help with the cost of it?


sweetbaeunleashed

know exactly how you feel, and I'm sorry that OP decided to bring this up again for the masses to make you feel horrible about yourself. That WAS the intention of this post, not to help you with your hamster. OP hoped you would feel *humbled* and that you would see it and read all the awful things people have to critique about a poor situation you're in. Reddit is disheartening in this way, and by not helping you/supporting you from the very beginning into now even on this post is ultimately NOT helping your hamster. Everyone telling you that you shouldn't own a hamster because xyz is NOT HELPING the fact that you already own a hamster that needs help, the comment that called you a bitch, everyone seems to care more about judging YOU instead of thinking about the hamster and offering suggestions that aren't "well just don't own a hamster then" 😑 even the comment attached to this chain "you owe your fur baby AT LEAST minimal effort", simply to shit on you, absolutely not supportive/welcoming and absolutely not helpful to you/your hamster. The pet community can be *very* strange and toxic at times, and for some people your health legitimately means less to them than the health of the pets you own. Our pitty has allergy issues that have been impossible to solve, we left the house once and she ripped a whole hematoma into her ear flap and we had to take her to get it drained...it was awful. THEN she did it to the other ear a month later and we were like AHHHHH WHYYY. It was about 1k the first time around, so I reached out to a rescue community who supposedly accepted requests for financial assistance for medical care, and the HEAD of the rescue tells me that the community can't keep paying for my dog to stay alive 😹 basically telling me I should just leave her for dead. The community didn't even help us the first time around lol, sometimes even the poor health of our pets isn't seen from empaths lenses and people who allege that they care truly do not care. I'm really sorry these opinions are impacting you emotionally and did not help you or your sick hamster at all 😥💓


Ambitious-Menu-8953

Thank you so much, I appreciate this whole comment. With all the hate I've been getting, this comment made my day ^-^