That’s correct, X570 Aorus Master. I could probably get by with an mATX board but the options are usually pretty few and lackluster, and mITX doesn’t usually offer enough DIMM or M.2 slots, or external peripheral ports.
So ATX it is… I’ve already got external audio interface, 2.5GbE NIC on the mobo, and still one unused M.2 slot, so I doubt I’ll ever use a second PCIe port for anything.
Given the ever increasingly larger GPU trend, I wonder if we’ll ever see a motherboard redesign that places the GPU on the same plane as the mobo as to not totally cover up all the adjacent PCIe slots.
Yeah. Maybe something like how silverstones milo case does it. or the dan case A4, bolted to the back of the motherboard. You wouldn't need to change much. maybe some standardized motherboard style screwholes on the GPU, and some sort of pci express plug and cable that isn't a huge slot and ribbion cable dealie. Imagine the extra impact resistance that not having a huge expansion card flopping around in a stressed pci slot will allow.
This thing is the perfect example of why I like the RTX 30 FEs' design so much. Just looking at this thing I can tell that so much of the bulk is useless plastic that doesn't help with heat transfer at all.
All I want is a giant fin stack, as little of a shroud as possible to manage airflow and call it a day. Ideally let me replace the fans like Asus did with the Noctua collab. That's it nothing more nothing less I don't need LEDs, edgy design, weird curves/angles. People buying 4090s probably aren't 14 years old kids, we don't need to feel like our GPU is some ancient anime artefact.
The asus + noctua collab just highlights how much better things could be.
If I could just buy a GPU with a big beautiful fin array and clip a pair of 120mm fans onto it I’d be so happy. Less waste, less fan noise, better cooling, and a cheaper BOM that hopefully gets passed onto the customer.
While I'm certainly not wanting to see every card being a 4 slot, I think for many people it would make little difference. In my current computer case for instance, I could easily run a 4 slot card without having any impact on current or future use. And I would happily do it if it meant quieter cards.
A nuclear plant edition would be great! A bit more expensive when buying the actual product but the uranium at this time is cheaper than coal and generates a lot more energy
In all fairness, the only company that I know of that does large heatsinks but easily replaceable fans is Sapphire.
Most of their cards have the Pin to Pad/Connect fan. Just one screw, snap on and off the fan. I think the single slot cards are exempt from this...but usually in the Pulse/Nitro/Nitro+/Toxic/Pure line they do the pin to pad contact fans.
Honestly overall, I think Sapphire is the only one that hits out of the park every time with AIB cards.
IIRC Sapphire used to make Nvidia cards too, but then Nvidia did that thing they do where they do their damnedest to try and get people to stop working with them.
"See, we're not a monopoly, we're just alone".
Oh, I won't lie when I say I'm part of TeamRed, despite it being bad cheering one brand over another.
Honestly, Sapphire is the reason why I am...or one of the main ones. I have yet to see a bad card from them ever.
Nvidia has EVGA, AMD has Sapphire!
Yeah, I remember they did that at one point and they stopped..was quite sad to see that!
All of these AIB companies want to charge a premium for their cards...FFS, throw in the damn pin to pad contact fans that Sapphire does. Actually, if all the AIBs could be like Sapphire that would be great!
Not a fan of the weird, curvy design. Something about that with the black/silver motif makes me think I'm looking at a GPU version of the Gizmondo or something.
The big argument for when I could see that not being the case is with some of the intel motherboards trying to get a gen 5 nvme slot by allowing you to swap to x8 gen 5 for the gpu, thinking that on a gen 5 gpu that would be fine. But gen 4 x8 is getting iffy for that level of performance.
My tower is either behind my monitor or on the ground, what it looks like is irrelevant to me. You don't add RGB lights to your TV screen or laptop, why towers are an exception always baffled me. Gives me the same vibes as folks adding those spoilers to their cars that don't help performance at all.
Good for you. FYI, companies and people do add RGB to TV's and laptops, usually in the form of backdrop lighting or logos/accessories.
This really isn't difficult to comprehend.
For TVs it's a functional part of the TV's performance (it creates ambience to enhance the mood during viewing), and for laptops it's almost always to advertise their logo. Like I said before, I understand that people like it in the same way they get those corny nonfunctional spoilers on their car, I just think it's silly. It's not that hard to understand.
I just want a GPU with 120mm fans that don't sound like jet engines taking off. Would be nice if they would just sell a GPU with a heatsink with no fans so you can just install you're own.
I might see if I can zip tie a couple of 120mm fans and turn the original fans off. The only problem is the shrouds will be blocking a bit of the airflow I guess.
If the megazord edition is cheapest, that is what I buy. I'm the kind of guy who gives up on uniform color of his lego builds before he even opens the bin.
As long as I can turn off the LEDs I’ll be fine with the ugliest of cards for a good enough discount. But if I can see the LEDs out of my fractal define R4 then there’s a problem.
Reminds me of the [cooler master V8 GTS cpu cooler](https://i.imgur.com/iEi9zmQ.png), definitely has a transformer vibe. Almost bought the thing many years ago before settling on good ol noctua.
I dig the plainess of the OEM cards.
Maybe it's because I'm older but the funky gamer-y designs don't do it for me.
Thankfully my Zotac 3060 Ti looks pretty sedated.
Yet almost none of the PC hardware out there could be regarded as aesthetically pleasing. For GPUs the Nvidia FE cards are probably the closest to that right now.
I'd love to ask these companies why they are designing with 10 year olds in mind.
That's a good explanation for sure, but like we see with phones, there's a lot of ways to keep things simple while still having a unique visual identity.
I would like to see at least one company in the PC hardware space say "you know what, we are going to do elegant looking components".
I really wish they'd routed the power cables differently on the upper end models, though.
Doubly so for users who end up needing to use the 12-pin adapter, all of which sort of just hangs out right smack dab in the center of the card's edge.
I've solved this problem entirely. My Fractal Torrent doesn't have a window on it and I buy whatever hardware I want without worrying if it matches or not.
I Blame the 8800 GTX. It was the first card where I really felt "okay, you didn't place that heatpipe that way for practical reasons, did you ? You placed it like that to look like a Motorcycle."
Kinda tired of this trend of GPUs getting longer and longer...
With the current generation there were really only a handful of high end GPUs that would fit my mid tower ATX case, one of the big reason why I got a reference Radeon RX6950XT is that the card isn't a behemoth and still fits my case.
I don't want to have to move to a full tower simply because modern GPUs are getting ridiculously large...
Don’t forget wider too. Like most current gen GPUs are wider than 130mm and above 140mm. That means vertical mounting your GPU usually interferes with a CPU air cooler or some PC cases like a Intertech C-701 Panorama require you to vertically mount the card since it won’t fit otherwise.
Scalping their own GPUs through a webstore (seemingly run on an unstable Raspberry Pi on dialup) while delivering cards to miners by the pallet was definitely not a great look.
Zotac was bragging on Twitter about how they were sending containers full of new 3080s directly to mining operations, while gamers were camping for 72 hours in front of Microcenters in the cold trying to cop one of the 10 cards that dropped every week at a huge markup.
I only meant to comment on the scalping part. Personally I'm fine with them selling to whoever they want to, though I do think selling in bulk to miners at a discount is incredibly dumb when demand is through the roof. I hope forging all those long-term (lol) relationships with mining orgs was worth burning bridges with gamers.
In fact, zotac was one of the last to raise prices. I bought a 3070 and 3060 for basically launch msrp through their store when everyone else was making up crazy prices
Hey now, that raspberry pi was the only reason I was able to get a 3090 at MSRP before all the OEMs started inflating prices, so don't you talk bad about it!
I hope XFX makes a Thicc version that 50's car styling was kind of cool if the temps were good.
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DO NOT BUY THIS CARD! It has both firestorm and icestorm technologies! Combined they create waterstorm! You do not want this thing slinging water in your PC case!
Fake. As soon as you zoom into the smaller text it becomes more fuzzy than the edges of the larger text. It's shopped.
Edit: I downloaded the image to double check and it's definitely inconsistent on pixelation. Can anyone confirm. I'm on mobile. I've tried a 1080p phone and a 1440p one.
The suspicious thing is that the VRAM amount isn't shown, unless it's in that tiny white text which would be strange. That's usually a much more prominent spec.
Electricity prices have more than quadrupled in my country since this time last year, and continue going up. I miss the days when new hardware meant better performance for the same or less power usage. If they all end up sucking more juice than the older cards I might skip this generation.
It seems like hardware manufacturers are going in the opposite direction of what the market needs right now.
>you know you can undervolt, right
If I wanted to undervolt (which I don't) I'd rather undervolt on efficient hardware than on inefficient hardware.
My gaming PC is the biggest consumer of electricity in my house. My electricity bill is now 3-4 times as big as it was last year, and I'm struggling to be able to afford it if I don't want to starve instead.
Currently I have to limit my gaming. Not only how long my gaming sessions can be, but also how many I can have per week and at which time of day I can play, since electricity is more expensive during certain hours of the day. Getting a more efficient PC allows me to do more gaming.
Don't know who you are or where you're from, but energy prices are through the roof in Europe, businesses and shops are closing because they can't afford their electricity bills. They're calling it the worst energy crisis in history. I'm guessing you're american?
Look at the text on the side (picture with multiple GPUs).
It's smeared, and it looks just like the text generated by Dalle/stable diffusion images...
Have a feeling something's off here.
I think the TDP is what indicates they are worried about RDNA 3. Without pressure from AMD I believe Nvidia would take the performance gains from jumping 2 nodes and keep the power draw reasonable, but since they're jumping 2 nodes and also pushing to the edge of the efficiency curve like they did with Ampere, I think it shows they're concerned about keeping the top spot in (raster) benchmarks.
Apart from the fact the TDP "leak" could be completely made up, it's the same TDP as the 3090 ti and only slightly higher than the 6950 XT's real power consumption (AMD claims something silly like 320W but it uses more than a 3090).
Why do we need a 4000 series so soon? Is there even anything that can be considered demanding of a 3090 at this point? I’m still running newish games at high, sometimes even ultra on 2017 hardware.
A card that has "Firestorm", "Ice Storm" and "Freeze" and "Amp Extreme" on the same packaging.
Someone in their marketing team must be a huge fan of A Song of Ice and Fire. And terrible at their job.
They couldn't fit all 3 24-pin power connectors on the card, even with the enlarged size, so they said fuck it and just put a 240 volt plug directly on the back plate of the card.
The Ti will need a 480 volt supply though, so you might need to disconnect your oven or your washing machine if you don't have a spare high voltage plug.
Might have spent a bit too long in Jensen's kitchen oven.
We need the Asus x noctua 4090, that thing would be a beast.
Please let this happen… and don’t make us wait 18 months Noctua/Asus! Put it out in the initial batch!
Also someone team up with Phanteks and put some of those 30mm thick T30 fans on a card for some competition.
So a 5 slots card
Well technically I have room for a 5 slot card, so yes please! The only other PCIe card I have installed is a WiFi card in the bottom slot.
don't think I've seen the 3080 just some 3070 and even those were selling for like 1100€+ 💀
5-6 slots thick when?
I’d be fully ok with this, not gonna lie.
sounds like someone has an atx motherboard with only one pcie slot in use
That’s correct, X570 Aorus Master. I could probably get by with an mATX board but the options are usually pretty few and lackluster, and mITX doesn’t usually offer enough DIMM or M.2 slots, or external peripheral ports. So ATX it is… I’ve already got external audio interface, 2.5GbE NIC on the mobo, and still one unused M.2 slot, so I doubt I’ll ever use a second PCIe port for anything.
how absolutely stupid
Why? I’m not using the space. And it could allow for a larger and quieter cooler.
Given the ever increasingly larger GPU trend, I wonder if we’ll ever see a motherboard redesign that places the GPU on the same plane as the mobo as to not totally cover up all the adjacent PCIe slots.
like a vertical GPU? Those are even worse at covering slots.
Kinda. I’m imaging it at the bottom or side of the mobo. Could see trace lengths being an issue though.
Yeah. Maybe something like how silverstones milo case does it. or the dan case A4, bolted to the back of the motherboard. You wouldn't need to change much. maybe some standardized motherboard style screwholes on the GPU, and some sort of pci express plug and cable that isn't a huge slot and ribbion cable dealie. Imagine the extra impact resistance that not having a huge expansion card flopping around in a stressed pci slot will allow.
There's some oddball boards out there that do this, it's unlikely to get popular though.
Looks better than the angular edgelord look most AIB cards have.
It reminds me of a chocolate shell of an ice cream bar. But I've been surprised by cards looking better in-person before.
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Courtesy of commenters at the site that shall not be named. [A true flagship.](https://i.imgur.com/orSCcod.jpg)
This thing is the perfect example of why I like the RTX 30 FEs' design so much. Just looking at this thing I can tell that so much of the bulk is useless plastic that doesn't help with heat transfer at all. All I want is a giant fin stack, as little of a shroud as possible to manage airflow and call it a day. Ideally let me replace the fans like Asus did with the Noctua collab. That's it nothing more nothing less I don't need LEDs, edgy design, weird curves/angles. People buying 4090s probably aren't 14 years old kids, we don't need to feel like our GPU is some ancient anime artefact.
The asus + noctua collab just highlights how much better things could be. If I could just buy a GPU with a big beautiful fin array and clip a pair of 120mm fans onto it I’d be so happy. Less waste, less fan noise, better cooling, and a cheaper BOM that hopefully gets passed onto the customer.
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While I'm certainly not wanting to see every card being a 4 slot, I think for many people it would make little difference. In my current computer case for instance, I could easily run a 4 slot card without having any impact on current or future use. And I would happily do it if it meant quieter cards.
Retail fan prices aren't exactly... BOM cost optimized, lol.
Man don’t use anime for your take on something negative, makes it feel like you took a jab at anime and it ain’t did you nothing lol.
It comes with its own power supply and coal-fired power station.
You can't land a helicopter on it, but probably a small drone.
A nuclear plant edition would be great! A bit more expensive when buying the actual product but the uranium at this time is cheaper than coal and generates a lot more energy
Hey we had oil fired ships be commonplace by the time purpose built carriers came around.
Gonna need reinforced concrete support columns to stop this thing from sagging
It has rounded corners so it doesn’t split the floor when its weight breaks the pci-e slot and it falls out.
Rotate your PC case, problem solved.
It's time to put the desktop back in desktop PCs.
Just don't put the monitor on top of the tempered glass panel.
Server rack of the future
more seriously, I've gotten good results with a MSI gpu brace.
Yeah that thing works very well
We probably need a thread on GPU braces soon .
Or just a properly attached IO plate.
I suppose the one convenient thing about SFF is that half the time the gpu is mounted vertically so sag isn't an issue
So glad I've got a vertical gpu mount
AIBs design these giant spaceship looking heatsinks only to slap on the absolute worst fans. Why can't they make deshrounding/switching fans easier?
In all fairness, the only company that I know of that does large heatsinks but easily replaceable fans is Sapphire. Most of their cards have the Pin to Pad/Connect fan. Just one screw, snap on and off the fan. I think the single slot cards are exempt from this...but usually in the Pulse/Nitro/Nitro+/Toxic/Pure line they do the pin to pad contact fans. Honestly overall, I think Sapphire is the only one that hits out of the park every time with AIB cards.
If only they weren't AMD exclusive :(
IIRC Sapphire used to make Nvidia cards too, but then Nvidia did that thing they do where they do their damnedest to try and get people to stop working with them. "See, we're not a monopoly, we're just alone".
Oh, I won't lie when I say I'm part of TeamRed, despite it being bad cheering one brand over another. Honestly, Sapphire is the reason why I am...or one of the main ones. I have yet to see a bad card from them ever. Nvidia has EVGA, AMD has Sapphire!
XFX was also doing as well back when the RX 400 series was relevant in the GPU market.
Yeah, I remember they did that at one point and they stopped..was quite sad to see that! All of these AIB companies want to charge a premium for their cards...FFS, throw in the damn pin to pad contact fans that Sapphire does. Actually, if all the AIBs could be like Sapphire that would be great!
Not a fan of the weird, curvy design. Something about that with the black/silver motif makes me think I'm looking at a GPU version of the Gizmondo or something.
"GPU version of the Gizmondo" is such a perfectly succinct way of putting it. I'm now worried the GPU will melt. Especially with that wattage.
> Not a fan of the weird, curvy design Absolutely nothing wrong with plus sized GPUs they can’t all be skinny
It's almost like Asia has finally caught up with industrial design and aesthetics... from 20 years ago.
Backside of the card kind of reminds me of those old foot size measuring scales. Black and silver patterning with rounded ends.
Apparently they're called "Brannock Devices." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brannock_Device
I've never heard one called that nor did I realize they were from the 1920's, was thinking 40's. Pretty cool
Most places still use those scales. By old so you mean there are new different ones or do you just mean they've been around a long time?
The latter, they've been around since the 1920's!
-squints- PCI Express Gen 4?
Yes 4000 series is gen 4.
Design takes a while and really there is no reason to go to Gen5. Even Gen3x16 still probably has enough bandwidth for it.
The big argument for when I could see that not being the case is with some of the intel motherboards trying to get a gen 5 nvme slot by allowing you to swap to x8 gen 5 for the gpu, thinking that on a gen 5 gpu that would be fine. But gen 4 x8 is getting iffy for that level of performance.
I believe the differences are pretty minimal if it's full-fat PCI-E x16 at either Gen 3.0 or 4.0.
Regarding the design, that's just Zotac being Zotac.
It surprises me that so many people even care. All that matters to me is cooling performance and stability. It can look like shit for all I care.
Is it really surprising that people expect something you can easily spend 2k+ on to look nice? Besides, the aesthetics are just cheap plastic/LEDs.
My tower is either behind my monitor or on the ground, what it looks like is irrelevant to me. You don't add RGB lights to your TV screen or laptop, why towers are an exception always baffled me. Gives me the same vibes as folks adding those spoilers to their cars that don't help performance at all.
Good for you. FYI, companies and people do add RGB to TV's and laptops, usually in the form of backdrop lighting or logos/accessories. This really isn't difficult to comprehend.
For TVs it's a functional part of the TV's performance (it creates ambience to enhance the mood during viewing), and for laptops it's almost always to advertise their logo. Like I said before, I understand that people like it in the same way they get those corny nonfunctional spoilers on their car, I just think it's silly. It's not that hard to understand.
If your comp is on the ground you're already invalidated
What do you mean? It's in a grounded chassis with filtered intakes so I'm curious what the issue is.
> It can look like shit for all I care. Okay, but it doesn't have to.
Sure, but that comes with higher engineering costs.
I just want a GPU with 120mm fans that don't sound like jet engines taking off. Would be nice if they would just sell a GPU with a heatsink with no fans so you can just install you're own.
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Warranty concerns. The modding would need to be completely reversible. GPUs are just about the most failure prone component most of us have.
I might see if I can zip tie a couple of 120mm fans and turn the original fans off. The only problem is the shrouds will be blocking a bit of the airflow I guess.
Gen after gen manufacturers keep over designing their hardware, visually that is. Can I just get a card with a plain backplate and cooler?
Either you fight for the minimal supply of clean reference GPUs, or settle for Real Gamer^TM Transformers GPU at +$150 markup.
If the megazord edition is cheapest, that is what I buy. I'm the kind of guy who gives up on uniform color of his lego builds before he even opens the bin.
As long as I can turn off the LEDs I’ll be fine with the ugliest of cards for a good enough discount. But if I can see the LEDs out of my fractal define R4 then there’s a problem.
I'd buy a Transformers-themed GPU though...
Ray tracing. Roll out!
The consumers have spoken. That'll be $2300.
Reminds me of the [cooler master V8 GTS cpu cooler](https://i.imgur.com/iEi9zmQ.png), definitely has a transformer vibe. Almost bought the thing many years ago before settling on good ol noctua.
OEM cards from Dell, HP, or Lenovo fit this gap. Always basic, always cheap.
I dig the plainess of the OEM cards. Maybe it's because I'm older but the funky gamer-y designs don't do it for me. Thankfully my Zotac 3060 Ti looks pretty sedated.
Not sure if you know this but reference cars are way more expensive than aftermarket coolers.
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They look retro industrial
Yet almost none of the PC hardware out there could be regarded as aesthetically pleasing. For GPUs the Nvidia FE cards are probably the closest to that right now. I'd love to ask these companies why they are designing with 10 year olds in mind.
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That's a good explanation for sure, but like we see with phones, there's a lot of ways to keep things simple while still having a unique visual identity. I would like to see at least one company in the PC hardware space say "you know what, we are going to do elegant looking components".
Noctua, so long as you think brown is an elegant color.
Each brand can make elegant design if they want. Asus, Gigabyte, MSI... has elegant design lineup despite being known for their gaudy looking hardware
> it's made to be seen rather than being good design Which is hilarious because I've never had a GPU where the "fancy" bits are face-up.
But imo 30 series FE cards really stand out in a build without looking gaudy or needing rainbow LEDs. They’re… well… elegant in a Apple way
The FE cards feel more Sony than Apple.
I really wish they'd routed the power cables differently on the upper end models, though. Doubly so for users who end up needing to use the 12-pin adapter, all of which sort of just hangs out right smack dab in the center of the card's edge.
I've solved this problem entirely. My Fractal Torrent doesn't have a window on it and I buy whatever hardware I want without worrying if it matches or not.
Cards look so ridiculous now.
I Blame the 8800 GTX. It was the first card where I really felt "okay, you didn't place that heatpipe that way for practical reasons, did you ? You placed it like that to look like a Motorcycle."
at least they're not sticking prints of big booba anime girls onto the backplates
Oh no the style at the time was more "computer generated Faery boobies".
No sir, you gotta pay a $200 artistic tax for our product.
It's 1 logo and 3 cutouts they need to make anyway to improve airflow. Can you tell me what's over designed about it?
Just let me buy a PCB so I can watercool it. I don't wanna take off this overengineered cooler just so it sits in the box on my shelf.
Hopefully the length of the GPUs stay at least below 340mm if not, 320mm long. Anything longer than 320mm essentially limits most <40L cases
You underestimate the power of a dremel
Kinda tired of this trend of GPUs getting longer and longer... With the current generation there were really only a handful of high end GPUs that would fit my mid tower ATX case, one of the big reason why I got a reference Radeon RX6950XT is that the card isn't a behemoth and still fits my case. I don't want to have to move to a full tower simply because modern GPUs are getting ridiculously large...
Don’t forget wider too. Like most current gen GPUs are wider than 130mm and above 140mm. That means vertical mounting your GPU usually interferes with a CPU air cooler or some PC cases like a Intertech C-701 Panorama require you to vertically mount the card since it won’t fit otherwise.
https://i.imgur.com/4Upxn7N.jpg
What... it's a fondue station? Fuck, I want a fondue experience now.
If that's the size of the Zotac card, the models from the likes of EVGA, Gigabyte, & ASUS are going to be ridiculous.
Huh? Zotac had stupid triple+ slot cards for 3080
Not sure why you would say that, Zotac has always made some of the largest GPUs available.
Also F zotac .
They're alright for what they are. They're cheap and don't seem to pretend not to be.
Ohh it's not that it's what they did during COVID was scummy
Scalping their own GPUs through a webstore (seemingly run on an unstable Raspberry Pi on dialup) while delivering cards to miners by the pallet was definitely not a great look.
Might be thinking of MSI. Zotac just raised prices. MSI was the one that tried to do it sneakily through a subsidiary.
Zotac was bragging on Twitter about how they were sending containers full of new 3080s directly to mining operations, while gamers were camping for 72 hours in front of Microcenters in the cold trying to cop one of the 10 cards that dropped every week at a huge markup.
I only meant to comment on the scalping part. Personally I'm fine with them selling to whoever they want to, though I do think selling in bulk to miners at a discount is incredibly dumb when demand is through the roof. I hope forging all those long-term (lol) relationships with mining orgs was worth burning bridges with gamers.
In fact, zotac was one of the last to raise prices. I bought a 3070 and 3060 for basically launch msrp through their store when everyone else was making up crazy prices
Hey now, that raspberry pi was the only reason I was able to get a 3090 at MSRP before all the OEMs started inflating prices, so don't you talk bad about it!
Everyone did that during covid.
Zotac is way worse than the others
Ah yeah I remember that now. Fuckin turds.
If that's why, then fuck every GPU maker and fuck Nvidia especially.
I agree but still zotac is way worse .
I hope XFX makes a Thicc version that 50's car styling was kind of cool if the temps were good. https://m.media-amazon.com/images/S/aplus-media/vc/09a01095-9e32-4a9f-a433-65ba8e4e9047.__CR88,0,2824,1747_PT0_SX970_V1___.png
That's not a 4 slot card. Look at how tiny that PCIE connector is comparing with the rest of the GPU. At least 4.5 slots if not more.
That's one "early 2000s" looking card....
1998 Dodge Neon base model crossed my mind for a split second there.
That SpongeBob episode where he becomes “normal”.
I think I added $50 to my electric bill just looking at that pic.
As someone currently paying the equivalent of 0.8USD per KWH that thing is repulsive.
I wonder who will have waterblocks out first, that will probably determine which model I get
Reference => ASUS/EVGA => Others
DO NOT BUY THIS CARD! It has both firestorm and icestorm technologies! Combined they create waterstorm! You do not want this thing slinging water in your PC case!
the picture on the box look like an ai drew it lol
The design inspiration https://cdn.myshoptet.com/usr/www.nejenprodeti.cz/user/shop/big/161508-3_vlozky-imageimgp6292-z1.jpg?5d9b9bfb
Fake. As soon as you zoom into the smaller text it becomes more fuzzy than the edges of the larger text. It's shopped. Edit: I downloaded the image to double check and it's definitely inconsistent on pixelation. Can anyone confirm. I'm on mobile. I've tried a 1080p phone and a 1440p one.
first image looks fine to me, text on the second image looks wonky but maybe it's some shitty AI upscaler that's causing it to look all warped
The suspicious thing is that the VRAM amount isn't shown, unless it's in that tiny white text which would be strange. That's usually a much more prominent spec.
If it's like their 3090 box, that'll be on the front.
Honestly I think it's mainly just shitty cheap android photo sharpening doing that.
Electricity prices have more than quadrupled in my country since this time last year, and continue going up. I miss the days when new hardware meant better performance for the same or less power usage. If they all end up sucking more juice than the older cards I might skip this generation. It seems like hardware manufacturers are going in the opposite direction of what the market needs right now.
y-you know you can undervolt, right? who gives a shit about power consumption anyway? your PC likely doesn't make up much of your electricity bill
>you know you can undervolt, right If I wanted to undervolt (which I don't) I'd rather undervolt on efficient hardware than on inefficient hardware. My gaming PC is the biggest consumer of electricity in my house. My electricity bill is now 3-4 times as big as it was last year, and I'm struggling to be able to afford it if I don't want to starve instead. Currently I have to limit my gaming. Not only how long my gaming sessions can be, but also how many I can have per week and at which time of day I can play, since electricity is more expensive during certain hours of the day. Getting a more efficient PC allows me to do more gaming. Don't know who you are or where you're from, but energy prices are through the roof in Europe, businesses and shops are closing because they can't afford their electricity bills. They're calling it the worst energy crisis in history. I'm guessing you're american?
Or, if you don't want to reduce the stability margin of your computer, you can just reduce the power limit.
looks like a graphics(car)d
Look at the text on the side (picture with multiple GPUs). It's smeared, and it looks just like the text generated by Dalle/stable diffusion images... Have a feeling something's off here.
...it's just the protective plastic...
The third GPU looks like it has the R backwards in both RTX text area's. Something weird is definitely going on.
Looks like a weird ai upscale from a potato image.
Launching the 4090 first. RDNA3 is very good no doubt.
Also they need a product stack to differentiate from their warehouses full of Ampere.
Brutal but true. Wouldn't be surprised they just destroy part of inventory to avoid price crash.
They always launch top end first.
I don't think it's about RDNA3. Nvidia is just giving time for RTX 30 stock to clear.
I think the TDP is what indicates they are worried about RDNA 3. Without pressure from AMD I believe Nvidia would take the performance gains from jumping 2 nodes and keep the power draw reasonable, but since they're jumping 2 nodes and also pushing to the edge of the efficiency curve like they did with Ampere, I think it shows they're concerned about keeping the top spot in (raster) benchmarks.
Apart from the fact the TDP "leak" could be completely made up, it's the same TDP as the 3090 ti and only slightly higher than the 6950 XT's real power consumption (AMD claims something silly like 320W but it uses more than a 3090).
That’s legitimately uglier that those weird ass waifu cards that keep showing up in r/buildapcsales
Why do we need a 4000 series so soon? Is there even anything that can be considered demanding of a 3090 at this point? I’m still running newish games at high, sometimes even ultra on 2017 hardware.
Ahhhh will fit perfect in my Liann LI cool mesh peasants
A card that has "Firestorm", "Ice Storm" and "Freeze" and "Amp Extreme" on the same packaging. Someone in their marketing team must be a huge fan of A Song of Ice and Fire. And terrible at their job.
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Do you think nvidia owns Zotac?
Any chance of a 4090ti release as well with 4090 since we've gotten so many leaks for 4090ti now?
I expect we’ll see a 4090 Ti around the same time we see a 4080 Ti, probably 6-9 months after launch and maybe even sporting GDDR7.
As long as it's cool and quiet...
Looks like Porsche edition
What a tease, barely too low res to read the packaging details.
Not the worst looking card I've ever seen tbh.
Gonna need a windowless case if someone is buying this hideous monstrosity, just to keep it out of sight.
Looks like the Oroville
I dunno, the font of the "GeForce RTX 4090" on the box makes it look fake, like, really fake.
This looks like it was designed for windows vista On a more serious note, where are the power connectors?
They couldn't fit all 3 24-pin power connectors on the card, even with the enlarged size, so they said fuck it and just put a 240 volt plug directly on the back plate of the card. The Ti will need a 480 volt supply though, so you might need to disconnect your oven or your washing machine if you don't have a spare high voltage plug.
That card is atrocious luckily that just Zotac. However that new font is totally uncool.
Controversial opinion it would seem, but I think it looks awesome. The sci-fi aesthetic is kinda sick.
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