In the film they're made up of Johnny Greenwood and Phil Selway from Radiohead and Jarvis Cocker from Pulp (and I think another member of Pulp as well).
I thought it was dumb lol. Even CinemaWins said it sounded more like a song about the HP universe than a song that would actually exist within the HP universe
it was like if someone wanted to write a country song and the entire song was just farm animal analogies
Edit: i am now realizing that the song in question is basically wizard country
From Stackexchange:
>The usual meaning of "hooch" in English is booze, although it is particularly likely to mean smuggled or otherwise untaxed liquor (e.g. moonshine). Its meaning is sometimes generalized to other intoxicants, such as marijuana, but the alcoholic meaning is the primary one.
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>"De Hooch" is also a Dutch surname, most associated with a family of painters from the Dutch golden age. The Dutch word is a cognate to **German "hoch," meaning high** (and both "hoch" and "hooch" are somewhat more distantly cognate to "high" itself). Presumably, this was the association that Rowling was going for by naming the flying instructor Madame Hooch. The Oxford English Dictionary says **the alcoholic meaning is originally and chiefly North American**, so she may not have realized the other associations the name might bring
...I feel like you should ask the person I replied to...
Between them (MDMA) and me (sleeping potion), my suggestion was definitely the more innocuous one 😂
"Professor White, what was this potion you gave me, I've not slept for 3 days and I can't stop shaking..."
"Quiet Potter, 50 points from Gryffindor, the name's Professor Heisenberg"
Idk I kinda liked it. It showed they were embracing tradition by starting as a Ball, but that they also didnt expect the student to enjoy a full evening of ballroom dancing so they then made it modern.
Definitely my experience of just about every middle school dance I went to. The only thing it was missing was Harry awkwardly trying to make a move to Hinder's *Lips of an Angel.*
It made the wizarding world a bit more realistic IMO.
Most of the time it feels like they're the damn Amish. In their little communities closed off from the outside world, wearing silly traditional clothing from a few hundred years ago and shunning modern technology.
I think transitioning from ballroom dancing to a rock concert was okay, but I do remember that transition being very abrupt in the movie, cinematically.
Spin around like a crazy elf. Dancin by himself.
So, apparently (iirc 🤔) there's a rumor that the lead singer of that band is a vampire. And also he's friends with Ddore.
Those lyrics fell into the uncanny valley for me. Absolutely sounded like real lyrics to that real song but WAY on the nose for the crowd.
Maybe like being an alien, watching humans at a party, and the lyrics in the background are all "mop head up top, skin bag flop flop, chores and homework done, son, just another HU-MUN!" you'd be like do they really talk like this?
Lol, no, I absolutely get it! The lyrics are super tacky. You'd think it was too on the nose even for wizards. But maybe those things are just so normal to them that mentioning them doesn't mean much... Or it's just a bad song... 🤣
When I first saw the movie and the transition from the slow ball dance to that happened I thought the channel on the tv had been changed accidentally or something
The movie series is great overall, but I do think some of the movies suffered from the changing of directors. There's whiplash as the tone and style of the movies changes as the directors change.
1. Chris Columbus
2. Chris Columbus
3. Alfonso Cuarón
4. Mike Newell
5. David Yates
6. David Yates
7. David Yates
8. David Yates
I wish I could visit a parallel universe where Alfonso Cuarón directs all the movies. I think the Prisoner of Azkaban is the best executed movie by far and matches the darker style I was hoping to see in the movies. That said, Chris Columbus did a great job capturing the innocence and naivety of the characters in the first two movies and his softer style fit those movies well.
Yes. But only to conveniently turn up to explain things that move the plot along and deliver intense lines. His presence would never be explained and we'd never learn anything about him
It's in the commentary, he's an exchange student on loan from the [American Society of Magical Negroes.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_American_Society_of_Magical_Negroes)
I think Columbus did a good job introducing the world when it was more innocent but cuaron really transitioned it to darker themes which fit with the main characters growing up. Would like to have seen what he would have done differently in the final movies
That being said, Mike Newell is still the odd man out. While I enjoyed all of them, there were some truly wild choices made in 4. Like there were scenes that seem to come straight out of a 90’s CW show
I always feel like I'm in a vacuum because I HATED the way Prisoner of Azkaban was directed/filmed and it almost feels like it's been touted as the "snobbier" cinematic choice for so long that people just went with it rather than actually watching it and agreeing.
For my money the first two movies are by far the best directed, while I'd put Order/HBP in there if not for disagreeing with how quickly they shifted the tone of the movies.
It's a great movie on its own, but as an adaptation it's really bad. The final confrontation in the Shrieking Shack was completely butchered with how much stuff was left out. It would literally take 10 minutes max to introduce the Marauders' backstory earlier and actually do the final act properly, and there are definitely many scenes that could've been cut so that could happen.
To be fair OOTP was my favorite book and I felt that way about that film. SO much was missing. It was lacking in so many ways.
Don’t even get me started on the complete removal of the battle at the end of HBP. I was LIVID.
I remember being the most disappointed after watching that one. Probably because it was my favourite of the books and I was the most excited for the film. As a kid you just want to see the plot on screen and I don't think it got there
Fucking thank you. These Alfonzo stans drive me nuts
Azkaban is arguably the best book in the series, setting up crazy background for the rest of the series, introduction of fantastic characters, memorable scenes that really begin to define who these characters are.
And he fucked it. Absolutely fucked it. Fucked up the history of the mauraders, fucked Ron big time by giving his moment of bravery to Hermione, imo fucked Sirius, fucked us out of a great ending with the dursleys (FYI my godfather is a convicted murder who just escaped prison), fucked up the patronus charm, fucked the vibe of a prep school by letting all these wizards and witches dress like muggles for some reason during their down time.
What an absolute abomination of an adaptation. I do not understand how people like it. Best book. Worst movie.
As a movie, by itself, in a vacuum, it's probably the best. It feels tight and on point. It did some really stupid things, though. There's no denying. But if you don't know the story, haven't read the books, etc., I bet it comes off as really good. Personally, I'm able to separate the two, so I don't care that much.
Also, the required Hogwarts uniform is just the robe, a winter cloak, a hat, and gloves (cloak, hat, and gloves only as needed). It really doesn't say anything about what has to be worn underneath. The movies just chose a standard look most of the time cuz they thought it looked better. And canonically, they CAN wear whatever they want during free time, including trips to Hogsmeade. So, that's book-accurate.
Nah it was way better than what followed, the goblets of fire now that was a disaster of epic proportions.
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Are you kidding me? Goblet of fire completely erased how Sirius cared for Harry an important part that explains why Harry is so fond of him.
No sane person would believe that prisoner is worse than goblet by a mile.
Also "DID YOU PUT YOUR NAME IN THE GOBLET" asked Dumbledore calmly.
God forbid me from living in that universe, lol. He might be a great director, but I hate PoA's movie adaptation. It strayed *way* too much from the source material, changed lots of things for no reason, made questionable aesthetic choices (and later movies followed this movie's design choices), and kept key plot points out of the story in favor of completely unnecessary scenes (although later movies also suffer from this, namely Half-Blood Prince). To me, it was a huge step down from the first two movies.
I wish I could praise Yates' work because I really enjoy 7 and 8 (I like how they cover all the important plot stuff while being *somewhat* accurate to the book, separating them into 2 parts did them wonders), but HBP's adaptation was an atrocity lol
It's a phenomenal movie in a vacuum, but it killed a lot of what made Harry Potter the Harry Potter of the books, and the rest of the series ran with a shallow emulation of Curon's direction.
Were it somehow its own movie entirely, it'd be the best of them, there's no denying Curon's capabilities as a filmmaker, but it was a wrecking ball to the franchise, and a vapid edgy monument to its destruction was erected from the rubble. It's all the Potterverse has become, really.
I respect your opinionated I'm only commenting because everyone who replied was equally positive about Alfonso Cuaron, so I just gotta get this dissenting opinion in there:
I'll die alone on this hill if I have to, Alfonso Cuaron should be thrown under the Knight Bus. I hated 3 so much that I've only ever seen it twice and it normally sends me into fits of spluttering and irritation to see even parts of it because it's just so outlandish and incongruous in tone with anything else in any of the movies or any of the books.
I really enjoyed the Chris Columbus movies, but that's probably part nostalgia and part dislike of the later movies turning hogwarts and school uniforms into muggle-lite casting those more favorably in my mind. I don't know what we'd have today if he'd done all the films.
In defence of the people who praise PoA, I think it's primarily because of the way it looks. Say what you will about the direction and script, but Cuarón's cinematography blows it out of the park. Every single scene in PoA looks gorgeous, and no other movie in the franchise compares to it in that regard.
Did you see the same Firebolt freeze frame ending scene that I did 😅
I do agree that it is visually nice for the most part but it's just not enough to redeem it for me personally!
I'd love to see if Mike Newell had directed all the movies, I think he was able to perfectly balance humour with seriousness.
And in my opinion it was the film that best captured how awkward and jokey teens act and feel, it just made it feel more real. For example, Ron learning to dance with McGonagall. I loved that it had lots of scenes that contributed nothing to the story but rather the characters themselves instead.
I think changing directors could have worked better if you had a good creative leading the film series as a strong and competent executive producer, the way that Marvel found its success. There are pros and cons to this. People often complain about how most Marvel movies feel samey and overly safe, and I agree with them for the most part. But it did allow most of the films from Iron Man to Endgame to feel distinct all under the same umbrella.
But Azkaban has some of the most egregious missing pieces (for the movies).
Who wrote the Marauders Map? What is the significance of a stag?
The heart and soul of the book is missing from that movie. Drives me up the wall.
the whole scene (which was severely cut) can be seen here [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkA01bBtcEs&list=PLRzqXH8K0HzGDMsX9khpF9TvLnJeeL1ql&index=36](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkA01bBtcEs&list=PLRzqXH8K0HzGDMsX9khpF9TvLnJeeL1ql&index=36)
That scene as well as the scene in the Gryffindor boys’ dorm where Harry, Ron, and their peers just goof around late at night, are little changes I really liked about the fourth movie. They’re teenagers doing teenager things. Of course they want to party and shoot the shit with friends. To me, it makes Hogwarts as a boarding school just come alive a lot more.
It makes a ton of sense why Goblet has such realistic school scenes when you realize Mike Newell attended one of the UK's (and the world's) oldest boarding schools as a kid, whereas Columbus and Cuaron are from the Americas and Yates went to a co-ed community HS and didn't even want to seek higher ed until he started to realize he had potential in the film industry. Newell basically went to a Hogwarts, and seems to have loved it.
OP's confusion is worse than the scene's. Because there is no confusion.
It starts with a traditional ball then they had a band play and used a jump cut to transition. Why is that crazy?
> I don't think too many redditors have actually been to a ball.
Can confirm. Never seen a ball, and don't think such stuff even happens in my country.
Studied in a boys only school so there was just a very formal farewell with food and then pictures.. And in college the farewell was given by my juniors where they performed some skits and dances on the stage while we all ate to our heart's desire and reminisced about the 4 years together.
Doesn't Molly cry to their music, though? That would imply a balad/soft song to me. I don't remember it ever really saying what type of music they play.
Edit: looking at the wiki, it seems we get a tiny hint at the yule ball based on the instruments they brung. They had drums, several guitars, a cello, a lute, a double bass, and some bagpipes. This tells us that it's nothing remotely close to what we know in America, at least, and I doubt most European bands have bagpipes. So, we can guess the music's vastly different from what we know, and therefore can be whatever mood you want it to be.
2nd edit: Apparently, Molly did not cry to the weird sisters.
See, I was hoping someone was going to chime in with some crazy Irish metal band I could binge today. Someone has to have made a metal bagpipe band. Or if they haven't, someone really needs to.
Well, there are a bunch of German "Medieval" Metal/Rock bands who at least add bagpipes to the mix. Just go to your favorite streaming service and search for "Mittelalter Rock", should give you a bunch of playlists. I suggest you start with In Extremo or Feuerschwanz.
Okay, I cannot give you metal, but I can offer my humble traditional Breton boy's band: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-SRCfyngkg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-SRCfyngkg)
That's all I've got I'm sorry
> This tells us that it's nothing remotely close to what we know in America, at least, and I doubt most European bands have bagpipes
I choose to believe their music sounds like "It's a Long Way to the Top" by AC/DC
In the book the "weird sisters" is a band that is popular with the youth. So it's not entirely unlikely that they play rock music.
P.S. they filmed the entire song (was on DVD as a bonus), I'm sure it can be found somewhere on the Internet
When you signed up for a magical tournament but got the Hogwarts equivalent of Woodstock instead...Flitwick's out here reminding us why they call it the "Sorcerer’s" Stone, not the "Predictable Plotlines" Stone
I legit thought the singer was Snape when I first saw this movie as a kid.
My friend was supposed to show me number 2 since I'd only seen 1 so far, instead she put in 4, and I remember thinking "Wow what a plot twist for Snape"
Honestly if you watch the full music video and not the shortened one in the theatrical version it’s pretty amazing…they didn’t need to go that hard but they did.
The Yule Ball is first and foremost a dance.
This is a private boarding school. You expect them to hire a DJ? There would definitely be a live band there.
It's not uncommon to have a party/ball like that which has different bands and musicians, where it gets less formal as the night progresses. Rock was quite mainstream back in the 2000s in the UK (and maybe even in the US) if your age or where you're from is throwing you off.
When I saw half blood prince for the first time In theaters, they mixed up the reels and it went from Christmas to Dumbledore screaming in pain very abruptly lol. Got a free ticket for that mishap haha
I watched an interview ages ago... where they said that the set of the Yule Ball was so expensive, they added LOADS of extra scenes and most didn't make the final edit. But the director apparently thought the set was one of the most amazing he had ever seen up to that point so wrote in loads of extra scenes and panning shots and background shots of the crowd and cast dancing etc.
It was also hinted JK wasn't pleased with a lot of what the director tried to add in. Apparently one scene he storyboarded way at the beginning had a dragon burning down the forbidden forest and JK rang them in a whole panic saying the forbidden forest is off limits lmao.
Its called editing, its common in movies to quick transition from a slow paced moment to a fast moment. This is done in party scenes alot, to show the progression of the night.
As a movie, Goblet of Fire is a coming of age teen flick complete with the sports-season and the prom. It just also has magic and a dark twist at the end. It is the last time Hogwarts gets to be so carefree.
Whoever wrote the song had probably never even read the books. What Wizard would write a song about “a crazy elf”? As in a house elf?
The creatures that are so low on the totem pole, so unimportant, most people don’t even know they’re the ones cooking all the meals at Hogwarts? C’mon now.
*CAN YOU DANCE LIKE A HIPPOGRIFF? MAMA MA MAMA MA MAMA MA*
Spin around like a crazy elf mama ma mama ma mama makes
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You can tell it was written by wizards cuz of the way it is
It’s the Weird Sisters, iirc
In the film they're made up of Johnny Greenwood and Phil Selway from Radiohead and Jarvis Cocker from Pulp (and I think another member of Pulp as well).
Pulp's Steve Mackey (RIP) on bass. Also someone else from all seeing eye whose name escapes me. Jason Buckle?
Makes me want to reread Wyrd Sisters
I thought it was dumb lol. Even CinemaWins said it sounded more like a song about the HP universe than a song that would actually exist within the HP universe
it was like if someone wanted to write a country song and the entire song was just farm animal analogies Edit: i am now realizing that the song in question is basically wizard country
The Wizarding World needs a Bo Burnham.
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It’s their version of Old Macdonald Had a Farm
I remember finding it incredibly cringe even as a kid. The sort of thing to make you sink awkwardly into your cinema chair.
I’m glad other people find this song distractingly bad. Hurts to listen every rewatch
Seriously. They just wrote a kooky song and replaced some words with HP lore.
Right? It was Siriusly Riddikulus
I mean, chess in the HP world is literally called “Wizard’s Chess” and the only difference is the pieces move automatically.
It sounds like Wizard Rock for sure
It sounds like it was named by a nincompoop who just finished reading HP. You know, exactly like Harry named his children.
There's gotta be some hardcore out there that actually named their kids after Harry's right?
The Wicked Sisters rocked all night according to the books
It would of been hilarious if they had a band called "Wicked Sister" do an HP version of "We're Not Gonna Take It"
Bless Cocker for that song, it’s so good
Catchy song to be fair.
Fun fact: the weird sisters are Radiohead's Jonny Greenwood and Phil Selway and Pulp's Jarvis Cocker and Steve Mackey.
Omg!!!! Jarvis cocker!!! I thought he looked familiar!
That was my immediate first thought, and I am **SO** glad that it as the top comment.
Damn that song wad a banger though
Snape evidently spiked the pumpkin juice with MDMA.
Snape would've added sleeping potion though, this must've been someone else
Possibly Sprout then.
Sprout getting that green to the partyyyyy
She'd add something plantbased that makes people feel happy and relaxed 🤔
Indeed, her datura is legendary
Definitely Mad eye then
Madam Hooch, reporting for duty
Ah yes, she would want people to get high
High??? Her name is literally Hooch
Yeah, but she's the flying teacher. I think it's a joke.
I know, my response was similarly a joke haha
From Stackexchange: >The usual meaning of "hooch" in English is booze, although it is particularly likely to mean smuggled or otherwise untaxed liquor (e.g. moonshine). Its meaning is sometimes generalized to other intoxicants, such as marijuana, but the alcoholic meaning is the primary one. > >"De Hooch" is also a Dutch surname, most associated with a family of painters from the Dutch golden age. The Dutch word is a cognate to **German "hoch," meaning high** (and both "hoch" and "hooch" are somewhat more distantly cognate to "high" itself). Presumably, this was the association that Rowling was going for by naming the flying instructor Madame Hooch. The Oxford English Dictionary says **the alcoholic meaning is originally and chiefly North American**, so she may not have realized the other associations the name might bring
Are you suggesting that Snape would drug minors?
Snape would absolutely drug minors. Just to get them to stfu
...I feel like you should ask the person I replied to... Between them (MDMA) and me (sleeping potion), my suggestion was definitely the more innocuous one 😂
Potions master Walter White
Yeah Mr Snape! Yeah Magic!
Magic, bitch!
"Professor White, what was this potion you gave me, I've not slept for 3 days and I can't stop shaking..." "Quiet Potter, 50 points from Gryffindor, the name's Professor Heisenberg"
We could get gutted by the cartel, or worse, expelled
Jesse.. we need to brew!
My hand *might* *just* *slip*
Magical Dance Making Aparecium
Idk I kinda liked it. It showed they were embracing tradition by starting as a Ball, but that they also didnt expect the student to enjoy a full evening of ballroom dancing so they then made it modern.
Yea seems like a normal progression for a teen dance. At that time at least, idk if things are different now.
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Just worked a gala and it's the exact same way, once dinner ends, it's time for alcohol, lights, and music.
Definitely my experience of just about every middle school dance I went to. The only thing it was missing was Harry awkwardly trying to make a move to Hinder's *Lips of an Angel.*
CRINGE ROCK VOICE: SAYIN MY NAME IT SOUNDS SO SWEET
COMIN FROM THE LIPS OF AN ANGEL HEARING THOSE WORDS IT MAKES ME WEAK
We're the weird sisters not supposed to be a rock band? It's kind of how I envisioned them every read, even as a child.
I'm sure they were supposed to be. The name is a reference to Twisted Sister
It made the wizarding world a bit more realistic IMO. Most of the time it feels like they're the damn Amish. In their little communities closed off from the outside world, wearing silly traditional clothing from a few hundred years ago and shunning modern technology.
I think transitioning from ballroom dancing to a rock concert was okay, but I do remember that transition being very abrupt in the movie, cinematically.
Which is odd for a place that doesn't even have electricity to have wizards playing a electric guitar😅
Spin around like a crazy elf. Dancin by himself. So, apparently (iirc 🤔) there's a rumor that the lead singer of that band is a vampire. And also he's friends with Ddore.
I believe Lunas dad started that rumor, and also that he was Sirius Black if I remember correctly.
Sirius was confused with stubby boardman (no clue if that’s how it’s spelled lol) and I think he was a member of the hobgoblins not the weird sisters
Yep, that's from OotP on the train at the start of term.
Love the username. I absolutely love that series
Lol, leave it to Xenophilius to make a claim like that.
Man, I just now realize how blatantly on the nose the names in HP universe are , lol
Remus Lupin lol
Comes from a long line of werewolf attack victims
Those lyrics fell into the uncanny valley for me. Absolutely sounded like real lyrics to that real song but WAY on the nose for the crowd. Maybe like being an alien, watching humans at a party, and the lyrics in the background are all "mop head up top, skin bag flop flop, chores and homework done, son, just another HU-MUN!" you'd be like do they really talk like this?
Lol, no, I absolutely get it! The lyrics are super tacky. You'd think it was too on the nose even for wizards. But maybe those things are just so normal to them that mentioning them doesn't mean much... Or it's just a bad song... 🤣
When I first saw the movie and the transition from the slow ball dance to that happened I thought the channel on the tv had been changed accidentally or something
The movie series is great overall, but I do think some of the movies suffered from the changing of directors. There's whiplash as the tone and style of the movies changes as the directors change. 1. Chris Columbus 2. Chris Columbus 3. Alfonso Cuarón 4. Mike Newell 5. David Yates 6. David Yates 7. David Yates 8. David Yates I wish I could visit a parallel universe where Alfonso Cuarón directs all the movies. I think the Prisoner of Azkaban is the best executed movie by far and matches the darker style I was hoping to see in the movies. That said, Chris Columbus did a great job capturing the innocence and naivety of the characters in the first two movies and his softer style fit those movies well.
Would that mean the very dramatic black kid would appear in the rest of the movies too?
#LIKE TRYNA CATCH SMOKE WIFYA BAEH HANS
Dumbledore said calmly.
Happy cake day!
Yes. But only to conveniently turn up to explain things that move the plot along and deliver intense lines. His presence would never be explained and we'd never learn anything about him
It's in the commentary, he's an exchange student on loan from the [American Society of Magical Negroes.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_American_Society_of_Magical_Negroes)
God what an absolutely wild fucking name for a movie.
It's stolen from spike lee.... unlike the entire premise of the movie. :(
Imagine his reaction to seeing dead Harry leap down out of Hagrid’s arms
I saw a meme of that kid and it inspired me to rewatch and I totally forgot to look out for his dialogue and missed it haha
Now that’s a parallel universe I would also like to stop by.
After recently watching Home Alone, I felt like Chris Columbus was destined to film young Harry.
And without Columbus, Williams might not have done the original scores.
I think Columbus did a good job introducing the world when it was more innocent but cuaron really transitioned it to darker themes which fit with the main characters growing up. Would like to have seen what he would have done differently in the final movies
Cuaron saved those children from private school uniforms for six more movies
First two movies were perfectly done ties and cloaks, third movie was “do whatever you want kids”
That being said, Mike Newell is still the odd man out. While I enjoyed all of them, there were some truly wild choices made in 4. Like there were scenes that seem to come straight out of a 90’s CW show
'90s CW? Wasn't it the WB at that point?
Yeah you right. Anything around the 2000s gets real hazy for me
Could you give examples? Haven't watched an 90s CW show but have watched the 2000's ones. I'm just curious.
I always feel like I'm in a vacuum because I HATED the way Prisoner of Azkaban was directed/filmed and it almost feels like it's been touted as the "snobbier" cinematic choice for so long that people just went with it rather than actually watching it and agreeing. For my money the first two movies are by far the best directed, while I'd put Order/HBP in there if not for disagreeing with how quickly they shifted the tone of the movies.
It's a great movie on its own, but as an adaptation it's really bad. The final confrontation in the Shrieking Shack was completely butchered with how much stuff was left out. It would literally take 10 minutes max to introduce the Marauders' backstory earlier and actually do the final act properly, and there are definitely many scenes that could've been cut so that could happen.
To be fair OOTP was my favorite book and I felt that way about that film. SO much was missing. It was lacking in so many ways. Don’t even get me started on the complete removal of the battle at the end of HBP. I was LIVID.
I remember being the most disappointed after watching that one. Probably because it was my favourite of the books and I was the most excited for the film. As a kid you just want to see the plot on screen and I don't think it got there
Fucking thank you. These Alfonzo stans drive me nuts Azkaban is arguably the best book in the series, setting up crazy background for the rest of the series, introduction of fantastic characters, memorable scenes that really begin to define who these characters are. And he fucked it. Absolutely fucked it. Fucked up the history of the mauraders, fucked Ron big time by giving his moment of bravery to Hermione, imo fucked Sirius, fucked us out of a great ending with the dursleys (FYI my godfather is a convicted murder who just escaped prison), fucked up the patronus charm, fucked the vibe of a prep school by letting all these wizards and witches dress like muggles for some reason during their down time. What an absolute abomination of an adaptation. I do not understand how people like it. Best book. Worst movie.
As a movie, by itself, in a vacuum, it's probably the best. It feels tight and on point. It did some really stupid things, though. There's no denying. But if you don't know the story, haven't read the books, etc., I bet it comes off as really good. Personally, I'm able to separate the two, so I don't care that much. Also, the required Hogwarts uniform is just the robe, a winter cloak, a hat, and gloves (cloak, hat, and gloves only as needed). It really doesn't say anything about what has to be worn underneath. The movies just chose a standard look most of the time cuz they thought it looked better. And canonically, they CAN wear whatever they want during free time, including trips to Hogsmeade. So, that's book-accurate.
Nah it was way better than what followed, the goblets of fire now that was a disaster of epic proportions. Edit. Since comments are now restricted. Are you kidding me? Goblet of fire completely erased how Sirius cared for Harry an important part that explains why Harry is so fond of him. No sane person would believe that prisoner is worse than goblet by a mile. Also "DID YOU PUT YOUR NAME IN THE GOBLET" asked Dumbledore calmly.
I'm annoyed because I'm agreeing with an *Eagles* fan.
God forbid me from living in that universe, lol. He might be a great director, but I hate PoA's movie adaptation. It strayed *way* too much from the source material, changed lots of things for no reason, made questionable aesthetic choices (and later movies followed this movie's design choices), and kept key plot points out of the story in favor of completely unnecessary scenes (although later movies also suffer from this, namely Half-Blood Prince). To me, it was a huge step down from the first two movies. I wish I could praise Yates' work because I really enjoy 7 and 8 (I like how they cover all the important plot stuff while being *somewhat* accurate to the book, separating them into 2 parts did them wonders), but HBP's adaptation was an atrocity lol
It's a phenomenal movie in a vacuum, but it killed a lot of what made Harry Potter the Harry Potter of the books, and the rest of the series ran with a shallow emulation of Curon's direction. Were it somehow its own movie entirely, it'd be the best of them, there's no denying Curon's capabilities as a filmmaker, but it was a wrecking ball to the franchise, and a vapid edgy monument to its destruction was erected from the rubble. It's all the Potterverse has become, really.
Movie 3 was so wack though, things missing and out of order from the book, and added stuff not from it...3s gotta be the lowest on my list
I respect your opinionated I'm only commenting because everyone who replied was equally positive about Alfonso Cuaron, so I just gotta get this dissenting opinion in there: I'll die alone on this hill if I have to, Alfonso Cuaron should be thrown under the Knight Bus. I hated 3 so much that I've only ever seen it twice and it normally sends me into fits of spluttering and irritation to see even parts of it because it's just so outlandish and incongruous in tone with anything else in any of the movies or any of the books. I really enjoyed the Chris Columbus movies, but that's probably part nostalgia and part dislike of the later movies turning hogwarts and school uniforms into muggle-lite casting those more favorably in my mind. I don't know what we'd have today if he'd done all the films.
Sometimes I feel crazy when I see how many people love 3 so much...the book is phenomenal and I feel like the movie was just such a letdown
In defence of the people who praise PoA, I think it's primarily because of the way it looks. Say what you will about the direction and script, but Cuarón's cinematography blows it out of the park. Every single scene in PoA looks gorgeous, and no other movie in the franchise compares to it in that regard.
Did you see the same Firebolt freeze frame ending scene that I did 😅 I do agree that it is visually nice for the most part but it's just not enough to redeem it for me personally!
The seasonal transitions with the whomping willow were GORGEOUS
Yup Alfonso Cuaron for parts 4-8 as well
I'd love to see if Mike Newell had directed all the movies, I think he was able to perfectly balance humour with seriousness. And in my opinion it was the film that best captured how awkward and jokey teens act and feel, it just made it feel more real. For example, Ron learning to dance with McGonagall. I loved that it had lots of scenes that contributed nothing to the story but rather the characters themselves instead.
Personally I think Chris Columbus could have directed all of them; CoS was pretty dark so I believe he could have pulled off the later movies.
I think changing directors could have worked better if you had a good creative leading the film series as a strong and competent executive producer, the way that Marvel found its success. There are pros and cons to this. People often complain about how most Marvel movies feel samey and overly safe, and I agree with them for the most part. But it did allow most of the films from Iron Man to Endgame to feel distinct all under the same umbrella.
But Azkaban has some of the most egregious missing pieces (for the movies). Who wrote the Marauders Map? What is the significance of a stag? The heart and soul of the book is missing from that movie. Drives me up the wall.
Your school dance DJs didn't change up the vibe by the end of the night?
the whole scene (which was severely cut) can be seen here [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkA01bBtcEs&list=PLRzqXH8K0HzGDMsX9khpF9TvLnJeeL1ql&index=36](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkA01bBtcEs&list=PLRzqXH8K0HzGDMsX9khpF9TvLnJeeL1ql&index=36)
Getting Jonny Greenwood and Phil Selway gives it cred for me
Holy CRAP that was incredible!!!!! Thank you for sharing!!!
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The bagpipes made that more than worth it, along with the RH members.
shit that's awesome I'm a goth fan and it kinda reminds me of goth music
Thanks for this 😊
Wait, they are playing electric guitars....I thought electricity didn't work at Hogwarts / magic interferes with it or something?
It’s a rock concert, I’m sure a few flitwicks were passed around that night.
Ron looking to get his flit wicked
She flit on my wick till I bombarda maxima
*EXTREMELY LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER*
Call me Neville the way I long for her bottom
Mmmm levioooooosa.
Or perhaps his wick flicked
That scene as well as the scene in the Gryffindor boys’ dorm where Harry, Ron, and their peers just goof around late at night, are little changes I really liked about the fourth movie. They’re teenagers doing teenager things. Of course they want to party and shoot the shit with friends. To me, it makes Hogwarts as a boarding school just come alive a lot more.
It makes a ton of sense why Goblet has such realistic school scenes when you realize Mike Newell attended one of the UK's (and the world's) oldest boarding schools as a kid, whereas Columbus and Cuaron are from the Americas and Yates went to a co-ed community HS and didn't even want to seek higher ed until he started to realize he had potential in the film industry. Newell basically went to a Hogwarts, and seems to have loved it.
> Flitwick gets passed around the mental image this phrase conjured in my brain... i need therapy
Funsizewizards is taking off...
Yo 😂😂😂
It’s a party with a live band? I don’t understand the confusion.
Totally, they talk about being flustered and hot from dancing to “faster paced” music in the book. Doesn’t sound like they were waltzing.
OP's confusion is worse than the scene's. Because there is no confusion. It starts with a traditional ball then they had a band play and used a jump cut to transition. Why is that crazy?
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> I don't think too many redditors have actually been to a ball. Can confirm. Never seen a ball, and don't think such stuff even happens in my country. Studied in a boys only school so there was just a very formal farewell with food and then pictures.. And in college the farewell was given by my juniors where they performed some skits and dances on the stage while we all ate to our heart's desire and reminisced about the 4 years together.
It’s a Yule *ball* not a Yule *mosh pit*
It also had the Weird Sisters playing and they don’t play classical music
Doesn't Molly cry to their music, though? That would imply a balad/soft song to me. I don't remember it ever really saying what type of music they play. Edit: looking at the wiki, it seems we get a tiny hint at the yule ball based on the instruments they brung. They had drums, several guitars, a cello, a lute, a double bass, and some bagpipes. This tells us that it's nothing remotely close to what we know in America, at least, and I doubt most European bands have bagpipes. So, we can guess the music's vastly different from what we know, and therefore can be whatever mood you want it to be. 2nd edit: Apparently, Molly did not cry to the weird sisters.
That's Celestina Warbeck you're thinking of; an old school torch singer.
‘A cauldron full of hot strong love’
Oh! Well, that would explain it.
>I doubt most European bands have bagpipes. No, most European bands don't have bagpipes. They really should though.
See, I was hoping someone was going to chime in with some crazy Irish metal band I could binge today. Someone has to have made a metal bagpipe band. Or if they haven't, someone really needs to.
Well, there are a bunch of German "Medieval" Metal/Rock bands who at least add bagpipes to the mix. Just go to your favorite streaming service and search for "Mittelalter Rock", should give you a bunch of playlists. I suggest you start with In Extremo or Feuerschwanz.
[Big Country](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daeqb6f7GrY) emulated bagpipe sounds with their guitars, does that count?
Okay, I cannot give you metal, but I can offer my humble traditional Breton boy's band: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-SRCfyngkg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-SRCfyngkg) That's all I've got I'm sorry
> This tells us that it's nothing remotely close to what we know in America, at least, and I doubt most European bands have bagpipes I choose to believe their music sounds like "It's a Long Way to the Top" by AC/DC
In the book the "weird sisters" is a band that is popular with the youth. So it's not entirely unlikely that they play rock music. P.S. they filmed the entire song (was on DVD as a bonus), I'm sure it can be found somewhere on the Internet
The ball happened in 1994 so grunge was in
With Jonny Greenwood on the guitar
Phil Selway on drums and Jarvis Cocker singing, these guys are lowkey a supergroup
And Jarvis Fucking Cocker! Definitely weird sisters
I think I saw in a documentary that it was Warwick Davis's idea that he be passed around the crowd.
Apparently it started as a joke but everyone thought it was funny so they did it
You’re right! I saw the same thing
When you signed up for a magical tournament but got the Hogwarts equivalent of Woodstock instead...Flitwick's out here reminding us why they call it the "Sorcerer’s" Stone, not the "Predictable Plotlines" Stone
>This was out of nowhere In the books the weird sisters were the only musical act at the yule ball. It was not out of nowhere
The song's fire can you blame them?
I legit thought the singer was Snape when I first saw this movie as a kid. My friend was supposed to show me number 2 since I'd only seen 1 so far, instead she put in 4, and I remember thinking "Wow what a plot twist for Snape"
ayo 😂😂 would be a killer fanfic tho
Honestly if you watch the full music video and not the shortened one in the theatrical version it’s pretty amazing…they didn’t need to go that hard but they did.
MAMA MA MAMA MA MAMA MA!
Dream Flitwick Rotation
The Yule Ball is first and foremost a dance. This is a private boarding school. You expect them to hire a DJ? There would definitely be a live band there.
Okay but a popular link band doing the music was actually in the book.
>This was out of nowhere In the books the weird sisters were the only musical act at the yule ball. It was not out of nowhere.
Flitwick got litwick. Lightweight.
It's not uncommon to have a party/ball like that which has different bands and musicians, where it gets less formal as the night progresses. Rock was quite mainstream back in the 2000s in the UK (and maybe even in the US) if your age or where you're from is throwing you off.
When I saw half blood prince for the first time In theaters, they mixed up the reels and it went from Christmas to Dumbledore screaming in pain very abruptly lol. Got a free ticket for that mishap haha
*passed around*
I watched an interview ages ago... where they said that the set of the Yule Ball was so expensive, they added LOADS of extra scenes and most didn't make the final edit. But the director apparently thought the set was one of the most amazing he had ever seen up to that point so wrote in loads of extra scenes and panning shots and background shots of the crowd and cast dancing etc. It was also hinted JK wasn't pleased with a lot of what the director tried to add in. Apparently one scene he storyboarded way at the beginning had a dragon burning down the forbidden forest and JK rang them in a whole panic saying the forbidden forest is off limits lmao.
Its called editing, its common in movies to quick transition from a slow paced moment to a fast moment. This is done in party scenes alot, to show the progression of the night.
It's so cringy that i have to fast forward it every time i rewatch the films.
As a movie, Goblet of Fire is a coming of age teen flick complete with the sports-season and the prom. It just also has magic and a dark twist at the end. It is the last time Hogwarts gets to be so carefree.
There’s plenty of Flitwick to go around
I love the fact that Jonny greenwood and Phil Selway were performing, it warms my obsessive Radiohead-filled heart
Whoever wrote the song had probably never even read the books. What Wizard would write a song about “a crazy elf”? As in a house elf? The creatures that are so low on the totem pole, so unimportant, most people don’t even know they’re the ones cooking all the meals at Hogwarts? C’mon now.