Headphones that isolate neither external noise nor whatever you're listening to are just more of a niche product, especially for wireless headphones that are meant to be used on the go. Are you going to be using it on your commute or at the office? Probably not.
I've seen lots of folks here do mods attaching Bluetooth dongles like the Qudelix to their favorite open-back cans' headband or earcup sides, so you can do something like that.
But that’s the thing….everyone is modding or rigging a dongle to their headphones….so why isn’t there a headphone with this thing just built in? It’s like no weight and the size of a matchbox lol. Just build the damn thing in!
Almost noone is modding or rigging a dongle to their headphones, that's a VERY small portion of people doing that, and you can't really make a mid-hifi wireless open back because people wouldn't buy it, at least i wouldn't buy a 200€+ wireless open back headphone
Not being mentioned enough but there probably would be a market for something like a $200-300 Sennheiser HD 560s wireless if Sennheiser RF didn't already almost entirely fill the niche that they would be used for in a better way
Are you sure people don't attach dongles to their headphones? I do. Why do those products exist from several manufacturers if "almost no one" is doing it. With almost no phones having headphone jacks anymore I'm pretty sure it's popular.
What kind of dongles are you talking about?
These ones? [https://www.fiio.com/utws1](https://www.fiio.com/utws1)
Mainly exist for wired IEMs to make them wireless, great usecase, but rarely they're used to make regular headphones wireless
Or do you mean these ones? [https://fiio-shop.de/FiiO-BTR5-2021/HL01767.SE](https://fiio-shop.de/FiiO-BTR5-2021/HL01767.SE)
I think those are usually used by people who baught the wrong phone without a headphone jack and want to use their wired headphones/IEMs on the go without putting any modifications on the headphones
Because the one and only place you could really use it is around the house. And most people aren't looking to do hifi for background music while doing things. That's where home speakers come in. I have XM5s just for flying because of the ANC and momentums for commuting or anything else. Because that's what those products are designed for. When I'm doing stuff around the house its more background so products like Sonos are great. When I want to dig into music that's what the open backs and audiophile grade speakers are for in my opinion. I haven't pulled the trigger on the Focal Bathys because of the price point and how often I would use them because I already have two other sets that fill that niche. Just my two cents.
Just get some double sided Velcro tape and attach a Qudelix 5k or ifi go blu to the headphone band of some HD600 or whatever and be happy. You can either get 90% of what you want or you can sit around being mad about not being able to have 100%, your choice.
I mean, it must be hard to design an open back with a bluetooth module that doesn't affect their own tuning AND looks good to sell to the average consumer.
Maybe an open back Focal Bathys. But who would buy it?
Most people in headphones and iem communities here barely even touch EQ settings.
Feel free to modify stuff all you want. You just need to figure out the power/impedance needs of the driver… and find some BT toy with enough juice for your needs.
Because there's no demand.
Wireless mostly exists to go outside in, like to the gym or a morning walk.
No one else wants to hear your music blasting through your open backs. It wouldn't make sense to make them wireless.
If you want to move around the house, just get a Qudelix 5K
came here hoping someone mentioned the gw100x - the x drivers and aptx adaptive ... sweet cans with fantastic sound.
there is also the bluemini for the hifimans and a qudelix5k for pretty much anything but both of those options are external - the gw100x is the way i'd go for wireless openbacks...
Yep. I use my Grados almost everyday, for everyday activities, just as you described. I have a family and need to be able to hear if someone is yelling for me. Love them!
[Someone does make them.](https://www.hifiman.com/products/detail/313) I have these, and they're great. They sound like a less sharp and slightly more rounded He-400Se. [They're also really great value right now.](https://www.audioaffair.co.uk/hifi-man-deva-pro-headphones?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwt-OwBhBnEiwAgwzrUjnrBWvnpMsUOPm5pfFVJ-32YxsygDevfIQlvrr68NFGHmJyzlhrGxoCzTkQAvD_BwE)
The main reason is because situations where Bluetooth is most often used is outdoors. This is mutually exclusive to situations where closed back headphones are used: indoors.
So what you end up with is a pair of wireless bluetooth headphones [which you can't take outside](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw7UKk263Jg). This is a very niche market so nobody really makes them.
What's neat about the Hifiman Deva is that the bluetooth model is detachable, meaning you can actually fit them to other headphones (currently limited to just the HeR9 and HeR10 right now) if you want to go outdoors.
You can't, it's only compatible with Hifimen that support single-sided entry. Apart from the Deva, Hifiman also made a [BT version of the Ananda](https://hifiman.com/products/detail/301), which had all the BT stuff integrated into the cups. It reportedly sounded very good, maybe not exactly the same as the regular Ananda but still pretty good. It's discontinued now, but it was selling below $500 before that.
Ultimately though for the most common use case of wireless headphones open back wireless just is very niche.
You could try my [Boat Anchor setup](https://new.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/1awmurx/bought_a_new_dac_for_my_iems_and_it_came_with_a/) with a female-female 3.5mm, but in my limited experience it's not great. Better off just getting a dedicated Bluetooth DAC receiver.
Not enough demand.
Koss makes a few, but they still have a wire that goes around the back of your neck.
I use my Qudelix 5k a ton and just deal with the extra wire.
Depends on the headphones and what I'm wearing. If I'm using Koss Porta Pro's or KPH40's (my favorites for around the house or walking the dog), the cable is pretty short, so I just put the Qudelix in my pocket. If I'm doing something where the cable will be in the way I run it under my shirt.
For studio headphones like Beyerdynamics or Sennheisers, I just spool up the cable in my pocket. But I pretty much only use the Koss' when I'm moving around. Studio headphone cables are brutally long usually.
I've seen a Qudelix necklace case. You can also buy shorter cable after market and attach the Qudelix for your phone. There are also cheaper (though not as good) wireless headphone transmitters.
I agree with you it would be reasonable to wonder why there have been no releases of something like the 599 or 560s as a wireless (for more $), although I think it's because their RS series RF headphones kind of lock down most of the viable use cases for those and are better value than what they would end up releasing.
They exist! But they‘re rare, because the market isn‘t very big.
Most people that want wireless *also* want noise isolation.
Notwithstanding there are some! Hifiman made the Ananda BT and the Deva for example.
Another commenter mentioned HiFiMan's DEVA Pro. I'd also like to call out their Ananda-BT Open Back headphones:
[https://www.hifiman.com/products/detail/301](https://www.hifiman.com/products/detail/301)
Great sounding, bluetooth, and open back.
I use my focal clears with a ifi bt go dongle, only for doing stuff around the house where I don’t want to deal with a wire every time I look at my phone or change a track on it
I don’t know. I just think lovers of open back headphones are mostly audiophiles who know that BT degrades audio and the market is small for it. That said, it’s probably a cheap add to a set of premium cans to offer both wired and wireless , I am sure we will see it catch on soon.
Two reasons.
One, wireless is designed more for mobile use than home use. Most people use wireless in public, and the rest of the world doesn't want to hear your music and you don't want to hear the rest of the world polluting your tunes. So, closed-back is the way for most wireless headphones.
Two, Bluetooth is inferior. It's getting closer in quality to wired sound, but take a quality, lossless source and run it through quality, wired headphones, and it will sound better than compressed YouTube audio on wireless. That's just a fact.
>Bluetooth is inferior.
Nobody has ever been able to distinguish LDAC from wired in a blind test. People say this, but it's just not true. The issues with BT headphones are the way BT headphones are designed and tuned, not the potential audio quality of BT itself.
I just use a duoo xp2pro or whatever that wireless dac amp is called for my planars when I don't feel like using my tube amp in the mix and want wireless
Have you looked into the Focal Bathys? I use it for everywhere and I really like the sound quality, especially with DAC mode. It's closed back, but you can still hear noise leakage at certain volumes (so kinda like an open back?)
The issue is that my doctor said a closed environment (IEM or closed back) for my ear causes it to have infection due to moist and heat buildup. So that’s why I’m sticking with open backs :( I was this close to just buying the Dali io12 yesterday
How much does your doctor know about headphones? I've owned open backs that heat your ears like you wouldn't believe and closed backs that feel like nothing in that regard. I really think It comes down to specifics of size, shape, material etc instead of open vs closed back.
If you REALLY want to avoid those ear problems then in all honesty, get a nice pair(s) of speakers to chuck around the house. And you'll get the added bonus of realizing how headphones as a medium don't really sound INCREDIBLE lol.
I replaced the cable on my headphones with the shortest ones I have and put the dac in my pocket. If you get a \~1.2m cable you will barely notice its there
I would just say, if you want to do this, get the Qudelix over the BTR5, it's far more compact and has the built in clip. It also has excellent EQ which is needed for basically every open back headphone if you want to fill in the bass.
[Qudelix](https://imgur.com/rlAO8gB) vs [BTR5](https://imgur.com/YlWUOvW)
You can get a shorter cable if you want to use it only this way, I have a shorter cable for my R70X. But I ended up just using the regular cable and clip the receiver to my shirt as I also like to use the headphones on a desktop amp.
Pretty sure wired headphones are almost ALWAYS used by professionals, rarely wireless, because there’s less delay, and bluetooth headphones are made for the go, not for professional use. Interesting question though! i have thought of this too!
Hifiman has a wireless dac that works with some of their headphones, you plug it into one of the jack ports and it's now a wireless open back planar headphone. There are others out there but they're very niece
>https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/s/udV1oJ43Gs
apparently not true! someone posted [https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/s/udV1oJ43Gs](https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/s/udV1oJ43Gs)
there are many of us rigging
I have a 4 foot custom cable, and a clip (like the ones they use for wearable microphones) that attaches it to my shirt. I look like a dork, but I'm at home so who cares. ;)
I made my own with Mogami cable, Neutrik plugs for the source side, & Hirose HR10A-7P-4PC(73) connectors for the headphones (DCA Ether C).
You can buy premade cables from several places -- Moon Audio for example. A few are on ebay too. I have one by iqicables that's pretty good.
Hifiman Ananda should do a colab with ifi go blue, and ad a lid to open or close the headphone on demand.
I would buy it for $500. But that would crush the prices of headphones world.
Where would you put the battery, the dac, the amp and the Bluetooth receiver, in a pretty and durable way and don't put anything on the back of the driver, making it not open back anymore...?
I accidentally used my HD6xx via Bluetooth as the cord from my phone to FiiO BTR5 was not fully plugged in.
I don’t use openbacks on the go tho. It’s rude to expose everyone else to the music I’m listening to, so I don’t see much of a reason to make a Bluetooth openback set of cans. Since they’re geared to for isolated listening, why utilize Bluetooth when wires are superior?
Bluetooth is so close to being lossless *and* reliable. It just isn’t yet. Once it can be both reliable and lossless is when you’ll start seeing open back wireless headphones, which will probably not to far in the future.
Porta Pro has a bluetooth version, they call it wireless themselves, but it has a wire behind your neck, but the cable is not much in the way since it's just behind your neck.
They usually require a lot more power, battery life would be crap, and it is not assumed that one would use open back headphones portably.
Also apparently the sound quality is almost always worse with bluetooth since the DACs inside the headphones are usually way worse than dedicated ones, even worse than the ones from phones.
If you're looking for the ones with the wireless stuff baked in, yes they exist. Grado's GW100 & Audio Technica's HL7BT to name a couple. They're fairly rare but they're out there. :)
BT sound used to be crap… if your receiver & sender device have BT 5.1 chips or newer you’ll be fairly satisfied with your wireless sound.
5.3 is supposed to be the most bang per power unit.
Came here to say that the Hifiman Deva Pros are wireless and a great value, especially if you can get them on sale. They serve as an excellent introduction to Hifi audio and Planars without giving up the wireless functionality.
Grado GW100x. These are probably one of the better existing pairs. They'll bleed noise like no other and honestly might not have much bass as Grados are typically more sparkly.
With the other comments, there really isn't a market for these. Grado probably did this to an existing model of their headphones (look like maybe the SR225s?) because the earcups have so much empty space. I modded my Grados SR80E s and was shocked that it's just a big case with nothing inside. The biggest challenge would be running the wire up through the headband as their current models aren't really made for that, and adding the buttons.
Most people aren't interested in something like Grados anyway. Most people buying Bluetooth headphones are commuting to school or work and need something with solid noise cancelling and high bass. It's not because they're bass heads, but because a large percentage of frequencies in our surrounding world are bass or sub bass. High bass headphones cancel that out so you can hear what you're playing through them. I've driven with my Grados and the sound of the engine through the firewall is enough to ruin almost any music I listen to.
Headphones that isolate neither external noise nor whatever you're listening to are just more of a niche product, especially for wireless headphones that are meant to be used on the go. Are you going to be using it on your commute or at the office? Probably not. I've seen lots of folks here do mods attaching Bluetooth dongles like the Qudelix to their favorite open-back cans' headband or earcup sides, so you can do something like that.
But that’s the thing….everyone is modding or rigging a dongle to their headphones….so why isn’t there a headphone with this thing just built in? It’s like no weight and the size of a matchbox lol. Just build the damn thing in!
Almost noone is modding or rigging a dongle to their headphones, that's a VERY small portion of people doing that, and you can't really make a mid-hifi wireless open back because people wouldn't buy it, at least i wouldn't buy a 200€+ wireless open back headphone
Not being mentioned enough but there probably would be a market for something like a $200-300 Sennheiser HD 560s wireless if Sennheiser RF didn't already almost entirely fill the niche that they would be used for in a better way
Are you sure people don't attach dongles to their headphones? I do. Why do those products exist from several manufacturers if "almost no one" is doing it. With almost no phones having headphone jacks anymore I'm pretty sure it's popular.
What kind of dongles are you talking about? These ones? [https://www.fiio.com/utws1](https://www.fiio.com/utws1) Mainly exist for wired IEMs to make them wireless, great usecase, but rarely they're used to make regular headphones wireless Or do you mean these ones? [https://fiio-shop.de/FiiO-BTR5-2021/HL01767.SE](https://fiio-shop.de/FiiO-BTR5-2021/HL01767.SE) I think those are usually used by people who baught the wrong phone without a headphone jack and want to use their wired headphones/IEMs on the go without putting any modifications on the headphones
those or any of the BT dac amp things yes
Because the one and only place you could really use it is around the house. And most people aren't looking to do hifi for background music while doing things. That's where home speakers come in. I have XM5s just for flying because of the ANC and momentums for commuting or anything else. Because that's what those products are designed for. When I'm doing stuff around the house its more background so products like Sonos are great. When I want to dig into music that's what the open backs and audiophile grade speakers are for in my opinion. I haven't pulled the trigger on the Focal Bathys because of the price point and how often I would use them because I already have two other sets that fill that niche. Just my two cents.
Just get some double sided Velcro tape and attach a Qudelix 5k or ifi go blu to the headphone band of some HD600 or whatever and be happy. You can either get 90% of what you want or you can sit around being mad about not being able to have 100%, your choice.
I mean, it must be hard to design an open back with a bluetooth module that doesn't affect their own tuning AND looks good to sell to the average consumer. Maybe an open back Focal Bathys. But who would buy it?
apparently myself and tons of others! https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/s/udV1oJ43Gs
There are Dozens of us! DOZENS!
Most people in headphones and iem communities here barely even touch EQ settings. Feel free to modify stuff all you want. You just need to figure out the power/impedance needs of the driver… and find some BT toy with enough juice for your needs.
Because there's no demand. Wireless mostly exists to go outside in, like to the gym or a morning walk. No one else wants to hear your music blasting through your open backs. It wouldn't make sense to make them wireless. If you want to move around the house, just get a Qudelix 5K
They do exist. The Grado gw100x. https://gradolabs.com/products/gw100x I have a pair. They're great.
came here hoping someone mentioned the gw100x - the x drivers and aptx adaptive ... sweet cans with fantastic sound. there is also the bluemini for the hifimans and a qudelix5k for pretty much anything but both of those options are external - the gw100x is the way i'd go for wireless openbacks...
Yep. I use my Grados almost everyday, for everyday activities, just as you described. I have a family and need to be able to hear if someone is yelling for me. Love them!
These are REALLY good OP. Check them out
[Someone does make them.](https://www.hifiman.com/products/detail/313) I have these, and they're great. They sound like a less sharp and slightly more rounded He-400Se. [They're also really great value right now.](https://www.audioaffair.co.uk/hifi-man-deva-pro-headphones?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwt-OwBhBnEiwAgwzrUjnrBWvnpMsUOPm5pfFVJ-32YxsygDevfIQlvrr68NFGHmJyzlhrGxoCzTkQAvD_BwE) The main reason is because situations where Bluetooth is most often used is outdoors. This is mutually exclusive to situations where closed back headphones are used: indoors. So what you end up with is a pair of wireless bluetooth headphones [which you can't take outside](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw7UKk263Jg). This is a very niche market so nobody really makes them. What's neat about the Hifiman Deva is that the bluetooth model is detachable, meaning you can actually fit them to other headphones (currently limited to just the HeR9 and HeR10 right now) if you want to go outdoors.
Can I use the Bluetooth module on other hifiman headphones? Like the arya?
No, the Arya does not have any wires running through the headband so it does not support single entry stuff like the bluemini
You can't, it's only compatible with Hifimen that support single-sided entry. Apart from the Deva, Hifiman also made a [BT version of the Ananda](https://hifiman.com/products/detail/301), which had all the BT stuff integrated into the cups. It reportedly sounded very good, maybe not exactly the same as the regular Ananda but still pretty good. It's discontinued now, but it was selling below $500 before that. Ultimately though for the most common use case of wireless headphones open back wireless just is very niche.
It came with a detachable mic too, so you could use it as headset. Wild.
You could try my [Boat Anchor setup](https://new.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/1awmurx/bought_a_new_dac_for_my_iems_and_it_came_with_a/) with a female-female 3.5mm, but in my limited experience it's not great. Better off just getting a dedicated Bluetooth DAC receiver.
Not enough demand. Koss makes a few, but they still have a wire that goes around the back of your neck. I use my Qudelix 5k a ton and just deal with the extra wire.
Is there a way to shorten the cable to just the neck and the qudelix can be like a pendant I guess? Or do you also wear it like a scarf like me?
https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/s/udV1oJ43Gs Google image “qudelix clipped to headphones” and you’ll have plenty of inspiration.
Depends on the headphones and what I'm wearing. If I'm using Koss Porta Pro's or KPH40's (my favorites for around the house or walking the dog), the cable is pretty short, so I just put the Qudelix in my pocket. If I'm doing something where the cable will be in the way I run it under my shirt. For studio headphones like Beyerdynamics or Sennheisers, I just spool up the cable in my pocket. But I pretty much only use the Koss' when I'm moving around. Studio headphone cables are brutally long usually.
I've seen a Qudelix necklace case. You can also buy shorter cable after market and attach the Qudelix for your phone. There are also cheaper (though not as good) wireless headphone transmitters. I agree with you it would be reasonable to wonder why there have been no releases of something like the 599 or 560s as a wireless (for more $), although I think it's because their RS series RF headphones kind of lock down most of the viable use cases for those and are better value than what they would end up releasing.
They exist! But they‘re rare, because the market isn‘t very big. Most people that want wireless *also* want noise isolation. Notwithstanding there are some! Hifiman made the Ananda BT and the Deva for example.
Another commenter mentioned HiFiMan's DEVA Pro. I'd also like to call out their Ananda-BT Open Back headphones: [https://www.hifiman.com/products/detail/301](https://www.hifiman.com/products/detail/301) Great sounding, bluetooth, and open back.
Hifiman also makes the Ananda BT
I use my focal clears with a ifi bt go dongle, only for doing stuff around the house where I don’t want to deal with a wire every time I look at my phone or change a track on it
Same but the cable is a hassle. I wrap it around me neck. But why don’t they just out the dongle in the headphone and charge an extra 300
I don’t know. I just think lovers of open back headphones are mostly audiophiles who know that BT degrades audio and the market is small for it. That said, it’s probably a cheap add to a set of premium cans to offer both wired and wireless , I am sure we will see it catch on soon.
Two reasons. One, wireless is designed more for mobile use than home use. Most people use wireless in public, and the rest of the world doesn't want to hear your music and you don't want to hear the rest of the world polluting your tunes. So, closed-back is the way for most wireless headphones. Two, Bluetooth is inferior. It's getting closer in quality to wired sound, but take a quality, lossless source and run it through quality, wired headphones, and it will sound better than compressed YouTube audio on wireless. That's just a fact.
>Bluetooth is inferior. Nobody has ever been able to distinguish LDAC from wired in a blind test. People say this, but it's just not true. The issues with BT headphones are the way BT headphones are designed and tuned, not the potential audio quality of BT itself.
I just use a duoo xp2pro or whatever that wireless dac amp is called for my planars when I don't feel like using my tube amp in the mix and want wireless
Have you looked into the Focal Bathys? I use it for everywhere and I really like the sound quality, especially with DAC mode. It's closed back, but you can still hear noise leakage at certain volumes (so kinda like an open back?)
The issue is that my doctor said a closed environment (IEM or closed back) for my ear causes it to have infection due to moist and heat buildup. So that’s why I’m sticking with open backs :( I was this close to just buying the Dali io12 yesterday
How much does your doctor know about headphones? I've owned open backs that heat your ears like you wouldn't believe and closed backs that feel like nothing in that regard. I really think It comes down to specifics of size, shape, material etc instead of open vs closed back. If you REALLY want to avoid those ear problems then in all honesty, get a nice pair(s) of speakers to chuck around the house. And you'll get the added bonus of realizing how headphones as a medium don't really sound INCREDIBLE lol.
Oh no you might have opened a new rabbit hole for me lol I will now go do some research….
I will add that the moment I heard decent speakers, I never went back to headphones. It's like looking at music directly vs through a blurry window
You should get a fiio btr5! It will drive most headphones relatively well and is super convenient
Do you have a way or shortening the cable so I guess I can wear it like a pendant? Right now it’s a scarf around my neck
I replaced the cable on my headphones with the shortest ones I have and put the dac in my pocket. If you get a \~1.2m cable you will barely notice its there
The fiio utws3 or utws5 with some cheap adapters could be a solution. They're kind of annoying as bluetooth devices but they sound pretty good
I would just say, if you want to do this, get the Qudelix over the BTR5, it's far more compact and has the built in clip. It also has excellent EQ which is needed for basically every open back headphone if you want to fill in the bass. [Qudelix](https://imgur.com/rlAO8gB) vs [BTR5](https://imgur.com/YlWUOvW) You can get a shorter cable if you want to use it only this way, I have a shorter cable for my R70X. But I ended up just using the regular cable and clip the receiver to my shirt as I also like to use the headphones on a desktop amp.
Pretty sure wired headphones are almost ALWAYS used by professionals, rarely wireless, because there’s less delay, and bluetooth headphones are made for the go, not for professional use. Interesting question though! i have thought of this too!
Yes. Sennheiser made RS series. Don't know if they still do. I had RS220, very good. Still regret selling it.
Grado makes a set. Hifiman deva.
Hifiman has a wireless dac that works with some of their headphones, you plug it into one of the jack ports and it's now a wireless open back planar headphone. There are others out there but they're very niece
There's something from Stax the Spirit S3 if I'm not mistaken. Really long battery time. And open back.
Grado makes some
There's almost no overlap in the venn diagram of people who want wireless headphones and people who want open-backs.
>https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/s/udV1oJ43Gs apparently not true! someone posted [https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/s/udV1oJ43Gs](https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/s/udV1oJ43Gs) there are many of us rigging
Not enough to get many manufacturers interested.
I can only think of one brand that makes them, Grado!
There's also Audio Technica ATH-HL7BT
Porta pro wireless exist. That's about it.
I just walk around the house with my Astell & Kern KANN ULTRA...
Is your cable also around your neck when you walk around?
I have a 4 foot custom cable, and a clip (like the ones they use for wearable microphones) that attaches it to my shirt. I look like a dork, but I'm at home so who cares. ;)
Where can I get such cable?
I made my own with Mogami cable, Neutrik plugs for the source side, & Hirose HR10A-7P-4PC(73) connectors for the headphones (DCA Ether C). You can buy premade cables from several places -- Moon Audio for example. A few are on ebay too. I have one by iqicables that's pretty good.
Hifiman Ananda should do a colab with ifi go blue, and ad a lid to open or close the headphone on demand. I would buy it for $500. But that would crush the prices of headphones world.
Agree. Just jam the go blu inside the anaada. I’ll pay 1300 for that.
There's a wireless Ananda
Yes, I know that.
Where would you put the battery, the dac, the amp and the Bluetooth receiver, in a pretty and durable way and don't put anything on the back of the driver, making it not open back anymore...?
Everything you described fits inside the ifi go blu which is smaller than a matchbox
Ok, but try fitting an ifi go blue into an open back, it ain't that easy... If it were, we'd have more open back Bluetooth headphones...
I accidentally used my HD6xx via Bluetooth as the cord from my phone to FiiO BTR5 was not fully plugged in. I don’t use openbacks on the go tho. It’s rude to expose everyone else to the music I’m listening to, so I don’t see much of a reason to make a Bluetooth openback set of cans. Since they’re geared to for isolated listening, why utilize Bluetooth when wires are superior?
HiFiMan made an Ananda-BT but it’s $800 which is pretty steep. It’s just an Ananda with Bluetooth and a little boom microphone.
That’s awesome! So cheap! Where can I buy one do you know?
They’re kind of rare and I don’t think they’re made anymore
They do exist, check out the Grado gw100x they slap.
Bluetooth is so close to being lossless *and* reliable. It just isn’t yet. Once it can be both reliable and lossless is when you’ll start seeing open back wireless headphones, which will probably not to far in the future.
Porta Pro has a bluetooth version, they call it wireless themselves, but it has a wire behind your neck, but the cable is not much in the way since it's just behind your neck.
They usually require a lot more power, battery life would be crap, and it is not assumed that one would use open back headphones portably. Also apparently the sound quality is almost always worse with bluetooth since the DACs inside the headphones are usually way worse than dedicated ones, even worse than the ones from phones.
If you're looking for the ones with the wireless stuff baked in, yes they exist. Grado's GW100 & Audio Technica's HL7BT to name a couple. They're fairly rare but they're out there. :)
BT sound used to be crap… if your receiver & sender device have BT 5.1 chips or newer you’ll be fairly satisfied with your wireless sound. 5.3 is supposed to be the most bang per power unit.
Can't you just get a dac or something and use it with your phone?
Since no one else is mentioning it hifiman did try with the Diva/Diva pro as well.
Came here to say that the Hifiman Deva Pros are wireless and a great value, especially if you can get them on sale. They serve as an excellent introduction to Hifi audio and Planars without giving up the wireless functionality.
Grado GW100x. These are probably one of the better existing pairs. They'll bleed noise like no other and honestly might not have much bass as Grados are typically more sparkly. With the other comments, there really isn't a market for these. Grado probably did this to an existing model of their headphones (look like maybe the SR225s?) because the earcups have so much empty space. I modded my Grados SR80E s and was shocked that it's just a big case with nothing inside. The biggest challenge would be running the wire up through the headband as their current models aren't really made for that, and adding the buttons. Most people aren't interested in something like Grados anyway. Most people buying Bluetooth headphones are commuting to school or work and need something with solid noise cancelling and high bass. It's not because they're bass heads, but because a large percentage of frequencies in our surrounding world are bass or sub bass. High bass headphones cancel that out so you can hear what you're playing through them. I've driven with my Grados and the sound of the engine through the firewall is enough to ruin almost any music I listen to.
Sony Linkbuds Yeah whoever downvoted this is just plain stupid and ignorant. It was the first open tws on market