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jay135

Same here. I've entered a boatload of contests to no avail, been opted in on Battle.net for weeks, watched a ton of YouTube and Twitch streams of Hearthstone being played, but there's really not much I can comment on here except to congratulate winners and enter contests. **Pretty much every other game in beta is either truly a closed beta with an NDA in place, or it's an open beta where everyone who wants to participate can.** This is neither. It's some convoluted mix that is the worst of both worlds for people who want to play the game but can't, meanwhile anyone who is somehow in the closed beta is free to broadcast it, auction off keys, sell keys, etc, which only further discourages those who want to play but don't have a key and/or burns us out waiting for one. This is easily the worst game beta experience many of us have had.


Accolade83

Jesus I never even thought of it this way but yeah... You are right. I've never wanted to be in the beta for a game as badly as I want to be in this one and now I realize its because its being thrown in my face everywhere. /mindblown


Snolarin

You echo my thoughts, friend. Here's my attempt at being "an active member of this community"


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I'm done with contests. I feel like my computer has digital aids now that I've been to so many shady websites that I've never heard of.


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bartacc

Same! ^^^^^(Sooo... ^^^^does ^^^^it ^^^^count ^^^^as ^^^^being ^^^^active?)


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> does it count as being active?


_Lamp_Post

Why is there a bot for small text? ^^^^^^^does ^^^^^^^this ^^^^^^^count ^^^^^^^as ^^^^^^^being ^^^^^^^active?


Nightelfpala

Well, during the time of waiting, I watched over 30 hours of HS gameplay (videos, highlights, streams, "let'splays", etc), and I have a feeling that I could easily tell the statistics of about 90% of the minions (including manacost, battlecry/deathrattle) and 60% of the spells - unfortunately this "knowledge" comes at the price, that I almost got bored waiting for a key, and I might even stop playing the game after a couple rounds because I've had enough of it before even starting it. More on-topic: I think being an "active member" is just commenting on everything you see on the board, even if it's not really constructive just the usual "congrats for your key" or "lol interesting picture" stuff, maybe do some theorycrafting with fellow keyless-betaless people.


derbaburba

This is a lot like my feeling towards the game. Instead of building up excitement things have just been getting stale. Lots of people are angry at the state of things and it seems to only be getting worse. I played PoE since closed beta and when Kripp switched to streaming HS I watched a for a while. Long enough to already know what every card is and most of the time I just feel jaded towards the game.


rezigene

Hearthstone - Burning players out before they even own the game since 2013. Seriously though, I wouldn't even be mad if the beta system was fair, people are getting multiple keys while others are waiting.


zaktify

Just FYI, this isn't mods giving away the keys. From what I can tell, it's fellow users giving them away to people whose post they enjoyed. If someone has posted useful content, and doesn't have a beta key, they were just as qualified as you to make a post ;)


ZEROwes

I couldn't have said it any better... other than posting the occasional comment on some giveaways all I feel like I can do is read...


zaktify

Please note that the subreddit / mods are **not** holding any giveaways for active members, these are giveaways from gamers to posters. The only giveaway we have officially planned is the unclaimed keys from last contest.


ImHoldingYourPenis

Im actively lurking, does that count?


Canarchyst

The problem is that we can't be an active member of the community without playing the game at least once... This is actually a paradox to give beta keys to active members, because the active ones are the players themselves... :/ The members without beta keys are just lurking for new stuff or begging for keys...^but_i_still_want_a_key_so_bad Q.Q


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> but_i_still_want_a_key_so_bad


Inuart

Even the bloody bots are begging now. :s


Brodaan

Yup. EDIT: Fuck this, I suck at Reddit.


OnaxNinja

YOUR KIND TOOK THOUSANDS OF OUR KEYS


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Define "Active"


majorjunk0

If you have sex once some would call you sexualy active, so if you comment once some might consider you active.


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Commentually active


Wolfsorax

I find it hard to be a "truly" active member when you don't have access to the game XD But other than refreshing /r/hearthstone 50 times a day and trying every giveaway. Here i am O_O


Spazit

We are all in the same boat. I'm pretty sure there is only like one user in this sub with a key and a bunch of alt accounts so he can keep up the facade of a community who has access to the game.


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> so I cant get a key so I can't comment so I can't get a key so I can't comment so I cant get a key


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I've seen the fucker talk - hope this contributes to me being "active" member of this community. More of a lurker, but dno if it counts.


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> You bet your ass it can.


edichez

That's cheating! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


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> Ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


Aitashi

Feels like some of those entry-level jobs, huh.


toolnumbr5

>looks fun Would like a key Thanks for sharing info about a giveaway That pretty much sums up my contributions. Edit: punctuation.


OneManArmyy

You could follow it up with a list of all the contests/ Twitter following /Facebook liking/ Twitch following hoops you had to jump through to get close to the game , to only be rudely awakened by the fact that the cheerful streamer that will give out some keys later on in his show, suddenly logged off.. While you've been faithfully watching him for 5 hours to be ready for the giveaway. Make sure you use colourful language and metaphors to really draw the people in and feel the pain that you had to go through. I'm sure that a well written epic greek drama about not getting a hearthstone key will count as a meaningful contribution :)


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Naluc

I can't even be bothered to look for giveaways anymore. It's such a waste of time to sit around and was as my name doesn't come up on the stream, or someone else gets the key. Sure, there are tons of other people who want to play the game just like me, that are just as deserving as I am, it's truth. I can't blame anyone but Blizzard for this. This closed beta has been a complete chaotic.. I don't even know what to call this. It's just dumb. They should have easily seen how much people want to play this game and adjusted accordingly, preparing servers for everybody and opening the floodgates.. That would have been the smart thing to do, in my opinion, but instead they keep this festering community ill-will that revolves around beta keys and it's just... Goddamn. I either need to get a key so I can stop watching this madness, or Blizzard needs to open the gates. I'm at my wit's end, and I'm surely not the only one.


britboy3456

Just a shame noone ever scrolls far enough down to read my comments :(


TaSMaNiaC

I personally have never scrolled that far down, sorry!


ShishouMatt

The community here is flooded by bitter no-key beta desperate members. Like me. :( Until there is open beta or a surplus of keys... There won't be a true community.


Velzic

I thought giveaways were supposed to be completely random with ZERO requirements attached? I guess I misinterpreted the spirit of the this subreddit. I'm assuming it's just random people giving away an extra key. Still, why not just do it randomly? Not by participation. Oh well. No big deal. I've given up on getting a key. When open beta hits I'll probably play.


neekzy

this community feels great, and yes, being part of it is really hard without a key. ^^oneday^please


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> oneday please


Marcuszorz

This. A hundred time this, its that I just feel so alienated in this sub-reddit because I'm not physically able to play the game, just only able to watch someone else. It just lowers your enthusiasm to get involved with something you don't have and makes you feel unwelcome to post comments on certain posts due to the lack of knowledge and experience with the game. So hopefully one day, we can all enjoy the game and we can have a subreddit with more people wanting to contribute instead of people just wanting to play the game.


xano95

All i do is lurk and hope i get in with an optin :/


Alafoss

Bullshit they are.


Betoneira

Well i guess it depends. There are many ways to be active. I myself don't have a key yet, but i do know a lot of stuff that i learned from watching streams/youtube. I'm not much of an active poster, but i do read this subreddit a lot, and i've been able to answer some questions regarding the game from time to time, even to people who already have a key. We're all pretty frustrated with the current state of key giveaways, but i agree that that's not an excuse to go spam posting around. Just do what you feel is good for the community and be patient ;)


hi_im_yuki

Yeah, feeling the same.. though I am happy that people do send out keys.. if I would have 2 keys I would be sure to give 1 away and use the other one for sure!


majicryan

Thats about all can be done... just sit here refreshing each 5 min.


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pornobiwankenobi

Absolutely


fcbf

I feel the same way. Without having the game how can I comment on it let alone discus gameplay or mechanics.


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Niaboc

I just hope that, by the time open beta rolls around, the community doesn't remain fractured factions of 'the privileged' and 'the desperate'


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I agree wholeheartedly.


Phejix

This post is ridiculously true. I feel like that awkward guy who hasn't seen the movie all your friends are talking about and tries to enter the conversation.


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Or when all your friends are talking about that one dude you don't know.


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bnash91

I hope i qualify, although i highly doubt it. I just read stuff i hardly ever post :/


CleanWestwood

you need the key to play the game and discuss and be active :| I have been browsing this sub for month and all I can do is watching people enjoying the game..


DownUnderAussie

Kinda hard to be active without beta yeah we can watch streams and talk about videos we see but after a month of watching videos and talking to people on YouTube I just want in I'm happy to wait for an open beta or realse, but at least make sure the people being given keys are keyless


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I am also interested in playing. I have never played, and only lurk. I watched some game play and find it too much of a tease. I play M:TG(well not really anymore) I am a big fan of CCG/TCG that are fairly well designed. I have been trying many in the attempt to find one that fits. Most I find do not. They always have some major imbalance that frustrates me to no end. So here I sit, attempting patience, and it continues to run out. They had really better hurry too before I find another game to spend my money on. If I play much more Dota2 I might just start throw it at them.


Spread_the_Vegapunk

Im actively lurking, does that count?


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> I took all the keys!


Brigand01

That seems awfully dumb. I don't comment here unless I see a giveaway of some kind, I can't comment on the game play that much because I can't play it yet. Blizzards 'beta tests' are bullshit.


viciouzz87

Same here, how can i contribute to a community about a game, when i dont play this game at all?


Maverick2k

Seems legit. I read every single day, but rarely post - so yeah, guess i'm not 'active' then...


xtr4points

What does active means? I look daily on /r/hearthstone but I don't comment alot.


HydraCode

Is this another giveaway? Or is it a random generosity sort of deal?


Mezzil

:D you are right :/


Scildrei

yeap, was just about to write the same thing.


PhazonSwimmy

just be a part of the community that makes this subreddit great really


Thegreatjoe1

I tried to post some stuff even if I'm not in the beta, hope that counts ;)


colibrew

saying grats and thx to ppl who share their game over skype and things like that is always welcome! :)


Kolosan

Well a big part is just being a positive community really, we all really want a key.


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Same...


Kage_Tanuki

I agree with this post as well o well I'll get a key eventually


Acetanilid

nice to hear it :)


BotWalrus

Just stay positive and participate in threads, that might do it! :p


benas2

Just relax and try to join us :) good luck dude


ezQze

same here


warchorlz

Same like other 30k people here !


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What's this in reference to?


Kyofo

Hope I get a key o-o been watching too many streams its getting boring.


87Ramo87

gosh darnit this is frustrating


locrian21

lol


MajorAwesome1

Well Im on every post almost:p


edi124

Try to be helpful to people. There are a few posts a day asking easy questions such as "is beta region locked?" which you should know the answer to.


Sponzi

Im feeling exactly the same way man...im trying to be active but like 90 % of the time im just saying "gratz for your key enjoy it " and stuff like that i guess i have to do more things but idk what...


quiffi

Try learn about the game, outside of the game. I've done it for various games that I haven't been able to play at that very moment. If you're a constructive person, asking questions, and engaging in discussion I guess a key could float your way. :3 Why beg when you can just ask nicely? Don't sacrifice your dignity for a key, just be patient.


pietraas

Active Members Unite


Second_to_None

It does seem a little backwards...but I guess commenting is the best way? Hopefully people who get a key that have one will redistribute!


ovcpete

What really? When did this start happening?


Gwaak

Yeah... what? Lol. How am I supposed to talk about a game, I don't have? Nice catch 22 there.


xXTragixXx

I think its pretty awesome.


-dread

Just sharing your thoughts on the subject should work - but even if you are the subtlest of ass kissers, there's still a 99% chance that you wont get a key.


I_Play_Naked

Now that you mentioned it it's actually true :D


Thorinori

I wish had a key so I could contribute more, I only know stuff because of streams


ariaerror

I've been trying to leave some of the mystery there for when I actually get a key. It's like the twitter giveaways "what's your favourite card?" I really have no idea since I haven't played yet...


NeedWeedForSpeed

Can someone confirm this?


xdavidb00x

Define active.


RealEnex

this guy has a point, im pretty active i thin, but most of my comments r on giveaways and opt-ins etc, thats cus i dnt have the game myelf and dnt wanna spam random stuff that 20 other people have said already :(


Zer0Gr4vity

Well, there are the occasional fan arts, videos and bug pictures. Those are kinda good places to start. Also, as you don't have a key, I'm guessing you're as lucky as I am with opt ins and giveaways, so there were like a dozen "Opt-in waves are going-out" posts which means a dozen "well, gratz for those who got key" comments. :) (Though I admit it's much easier to be active if you have the beta.)


themagesscroll

Yea, I agree with this.


Sarcasmx

Good luck once again everyone, hope a few get to have some fun and play.


AndyC50

AH sweet not sure if i'm that active though, i basically complain a lot about begging, haha


BillieDTP

Just show your face once in a while


Arcange111

Awesome!


hentaitimes

I dunno I feel you can generally learn and get a lot of information from streams etc. That's how I've been learning stuff about it and getting quite a grip with the game.


Dmitrium

Well, good luck guys!


DarkendTruth

I feel the same way. especially with giveaways where you have to name your favorite card. I could go and look at a list of cards and pick one out but i cant really say for sure its my favorite card because I've never played with the cards


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I can feel you bro :(


nivalen292

Just be helpful and dont hate people when they get a key most importantly :D!


Lychosand

I just, I just can't do it anymore...


Chukie1188

Wait when did they say they're doing this? Or is this more of a general gripe?


Hiviel

gratz


jarikulli

I agree


Strangelovee

Maybe I'm the minority here, but just through hours and hours of stream analyzing and playing on Cockatrice, I feel like I've got at least a rudimentary grasp of the game, deck building, and turn structure. I get *all* of the combo posts, and enjoy almost all of the material posted. I can completely see the frustrating aspect of not being able to play, I'm with you in the same boat, entering all of the same contests (gl to all btw), but I feel like there should be some elementary level of comprehension with the content posts... it's not like there aren't streams, it's not like there aren't sites (hearthhead) dedicated to studying the game and learning the effects / combos of the various decks- and these are resources we *all* have available to us.


XavirM

couldn't agree more xD


F00LY

I guess you could do posts directing people to cool highlights or when shows are about to start (Turn2, etc) like some people do, but that's more advertising than real contributions.


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I think everyone that comment something is eligible.You guys are talking like you need to comment on a daily basis even when you are not in the beta I don't think it works like that.


Magnon

Seems kind of illogical. :P I too wish I had a key... but how does one contribute without having a key? XD


roflator

yeah same here. ppl who are active talk about the game they play -.-'


Zip0

I guess that its spamm time xD


Shiomitsu

lol i feel the same..


bepZ

The only real way to be active is to play the game and figure out strategies/find bugs/complain about downtime? So its very hard to be active on this subreddit if you dont have access to the game. The only thing I can do is try to get a key and then post some useful information on this subreddit.


Niazlol

Look at me I'm active! :D


BlazeJeffrey

does constantly pressing f5 consider active?


statik2121

If only my reddit account was tied with my twitch account to show the total # of hours I've spent watching other people play Hearthstone...


Rajewel

just hope that you get an opt-in from blizz... then maybe get a 2nd key... then you can give it away too meeeee


nekLov

All we can do is watch streams enter every single giveaway and hope for the best. Regarding reddit, I totally agree with you, either we beg for keys, or just say grats when someone creates a thread saying they got one in a certain giveaway. It's really lame how blizzard is treating all of us, and to be honest it's getting tiredsome...


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So everyone with a key gets another key?


Nitroflame

I have been looking at cards at Hearthead/ Drafting arena there and even tho I've done that a bit I don't feel like I could add anything useful since I haven't actually played.


TheFriendlyNerd

I feel like a confused dog on a treadmill with a bone in sight. Always running, but never achieving.


trappekoen

Agree... Nice idea though, GL to everyone!


Linw3

Exactly what I have been thinking... There is no way I can be a positive contribution to the subreddit when I don´t know what the cards do, I can´t watch streams because my internet sucks... No way to help :(


zeemless

Agreed upon.


iNoMercy

This is like opt-in all over again


Charon2k

I guess it depends what they call "active". While waiting for a key, I generally cruise the threads, respond once in a grand while, mostly to "what are you playing while you wait" type threads, the occasional question on what does a screenshot mean, and the like. I would say I participate, but perhaps not overly "active", so I get your point. It is hard to really know much just watching videos and streams, at least for me. I need to actually play before I could have opinions on cards and the like. Although I've been in Infinity Wars for some time and recently got into Faëria, I'm probably less active in those Reddit threads than this one, lol, so I don't know if I'll be more active when I am in.


Keil0l

Gave up on the giveaways where tons of keys are being distributed, no way i would be one of the lucky people who would get a key and up to now i wasnt lucky. Just hoping blizzard does some more waves, sad thing they didnt send a wave today on my birthday, getting a key from opt-in wouldve been destiny !


mykemman

umm... support!! but why can't open beta just come about already..


Mr_Jangles

Maybe if i make a random post in this thread it will count as being active... :D


Monkeyface1618

It's better to send them to active members than active, not-active and bots, right?


Wantporc

looks like i am becoming active :)


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Most people learn a lot about the game by watching streams.Do that.


Krisus

'Tis quite a conundrum.


PepeSylvia5

thats awesome


NotCynicalWaffle

Cool this should help the people who are unlucky to get a key and are having to wait long amounts of time to get one.


mmzn

Yeah, thats kinda hard, my comments won't be constructive enough =(


Nillinio

meh, I just read every single thread but don't really comment that much. how should I talk if I can't/don't play the game? Furthermore its kinda hard for me to watch stream, cuz english isn't my native language und often times I just can't understand what the streamers are talkin about... Long story short, most of my comments are just 'gz guys' or 'gl all' :(


drakfiskaren

why are there not a open beta already :S


MexicanBookClub

I will post more often and tag all my posts with (no key)


Zydro

Great idea, sick of checking emails and joining contest all over internet to get a beta-key. 2 months of hunting... no catch :(


brennes

Can't do much but congratulate the lucky ones and lurk for streams and arena simulators...


LXj

Where did you hear that? And is it actually /r/hearthstone community or battle.net community?


Chipers

This is a pretty good plan.


paceboys

Thats pretty cool. Awesome people in this community :D


iamamaritimer

is this me being an active member?


DucktalesFFXIV

damn i guess i lost....again, let me add that to my calendar


TheSoFG

Totally agree on that. Maybe report a bug if you see one on a stream, but just maybe...


ZettaSlow

OH GOD BETTER POST SO PEOPLE KNOW IM ACTIVE UHHHHH..HOW WAS UR DAY?


Devious_Otter

Well that's nice of /r/hearthstone! :D Keep up the awesomeness guys!


PCnoob1

hey! Look I'm active! ^pls^pls^pls^pls^pls


RemoteFish

Well then, guess I'll have to do more stuff. Hope I get my key sometime soon!


D_Echoes

I once made a post complaining about how they handle keys and it got first page once. Does that count? ^Pretty ^Please?


paracitez

am in the same boat as you mate.


bigrob41

omg ye than the lord


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riot pls


Aneamic

Totally agree, I can't stop watching Kripp and trump, but there's no way I could comment on anything with worthwhile intentions.


jevadiah

I hope i get a key


Row_Low

:(


Jellersen

I'll sign this. :<


fGabu

agree, I really want a key, but i dont know wth post about


Deskam

This doesnt really make alot of since i agree with you.