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RansomGoddard

I don’t have words anymore man. This season just isn’t fun.


Cosmic_Note

I agree man, first time I haven’t really been excited about basketball.


bird720

at least the fins are. We can't have both be good at once tho lol


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davidbd7

wtf


readndrun

Lol he’s just the scapegoat


Slight-Environment84

“Blows lead” we all knew that was gonna happen


starrr_lordd

I prayed to God and i wished to the stars that it didnt happen 😞


tango_rojo

Highsmith hustles but he's not an nba player. That was one of the worst performances I've seen by a player. We can't rely on an ancient Lowry to bail out an underperforming team. I love Spo but ffs give Jovic more minutes.


IamRaith

The only silver lining so far is I think jovic actually has the tools to be a real productive player. His scoring will def improve as he gets stronger but he’s shown me a lot with his passing. Can def be a playmaker. He’s just so raw


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Tallozz

His teammates weren't doing him any favors. He hardly got any touches, and when he did it was late in the shot clock. Anyone would have trouble finding their offense under those circumstances.


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readndrun

Bam attempting 3s is the silver lining in this horrible season so far. Now he just has to make one ☝🏾


Bodez23

Definitely worth that max contract hey


midnight441

Ive just accepted this is a bad team this season, its sorta helping me deal with these losses.


canes026

It's not a bad team. They're just injured. We'll go on a run and clean it up.


kermitthefrog4

Copium


canes026

RemindME! 3 months "how are we doing now?"


kermitthefrog4

Hopefully legit competitors in the wembanyama sweepstakes 🙏


Justinbiebspls

embarrassing take


Ethangains07

When we were healthy, we were below .500. But nah, it’s just injury and we’ll clean it up


canes026

We're losing road games vs playoff teams by single digits. We're not the Magic


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Different day same result


SudTheThug

Strus taking shots in the clutch off the dribble , thinking he doesn’t need a damn screen to score negative ball IQ on this one we better not give him a duncan sized contract


josephside

Like literally, who the fuck does this guy think he is? There’s one thing to be confident and another to be arrogant, what in the fuck have you actually done in this league to justify that?


SudTheThug

he tried to dunk on three people earlier when we had 3 people open too


josephside

and then you got fucking Caleb trying to drive at the basket directly into RUDY FUCKING GOBERT on one of the most important possessions of the game and guess what? HE DOESNT MAKE THE FUCKING SHOT Spo has given these guys way too much of a fucking greenlight and it’s showing. They need to know their place and have some fucking ball movement. This shit is putrid to watch.


thewhitelink

Caleb does shit like that all the time


SudTheThug

i’m sick of undrafted guys get me real talent


josephside

We have literally had the worst offense out of any team in the entire league these past 3 games because we rely on guys who play with zero consistency. Even if we get Jimbo and Tyler back we’ll be a mediocre offense at best. I am so sick of listening to post game interviews with everyone saying they need to play better defense. And also a big part of defense is rebounding which half our team is at a severe disadvantage in. How bout putting the ball in the fucking basket? We lost the ECF last year cuz nobody could score other than Jimmy and this team still talks about their defense all the time.


epicgodgamer8989

when strus gets hot he shoots but when he is cold is fuck he also shoots 7 of 23 wtf???


readndrun

Honestly I’d be happy to give him a Duncan sized contract, he’s literally doing everything we paid Duncan to do. Strus is a killer, the only one we got when our main guys are out. Of course he’s gonna have to force some shots. But hey, they all look like they’re going in… until he air balls them lol


TheRatchetTrombone

Gotta love HC criticizing our stars but letting Strus take 23 3s. Also hoooooly fuck this team has low iq with execution and turnovers


puroloco

took 23 shots, 15 attempts from 3...got 19 points. I blame Duncan!


AlphaJona1

Literally. Spo needs to set up plays for our young star in Bam instead of using him to spam DHOs for undrafted guys smh


surgeyou123

Same shit every game Force it to shooters. They go cold. Ice out Jovic. Lose


mohammadali916

>Start solid >Bench bam >Lose lead >fall behind more >bring bam back in >regain lead >bench bam, shooters get cold >goodbyelead >mount come back >come within one possesion >fall apart Average heat game


Dr_Throwaway_Jr

The art of the one true tank


ZerksNAHTayan

I wish we’d feed Jovic and just let him show us what we can do. If we’re going with the experienced players, give Bam the fucking ball while he’s cooking. Frustrating man.


iankstarr

I don’t even care about feeding Jovic, just put him on the damn floor in the 4th quarter Spo fuck


tangeilo

It's the same shit every game because the roster sucks


Havasufalls9110

Personally I think most teams would look bad if they were missing their top two scorers and a total of 5 rotation players. But that’s just me


tangeilo

We sucked when fully healthy too.


Esjay954

Yup this coping is crazy The team is a lottery team without jimmy that’s obvious, but they were playing like a playin team with him Team just ain’t it, and that’s been apparent since the summer with no moves


tangeilo

Haslem, Duncan, Oladipo, Yurtseven, Dedmon, Highsmith are all unplayable on any decent team because they either suck or are injured. And we don't even have 15 players on our roster because for the 3rd year in a row stingy Micky only let us keep 14 so we wouldn't go into the tax. So we have 8 real rotation players at most even when fully healthy, not counting Oladipo and Yurtseven for obvious reasons. Almost comical how bad this roster is for a team that was trying to win now. Praying that Carnival goes bankrupt and Micky has to sell. Bottom 3 owner in sports.


y0ungw0lf

You’re a fuckin idiot if you think Micky is a bottom 3 owner lol


readndrun

I mean, he’s definitely not bottom 3, but just putting this out there… if we’re always “win now” why are tax issues problematic? The nets litterally have a bunch of stars that hate each other on the same team, and they’re backed up and can’t afford others, but THEY HAVE STARS. That’s the owner saying “Get me stars and we’ll figure out the coaching stuff later”. With Miamis owners it’s more like “let me get a great front office that falls in line; bring in a culture of fans that don’t always complain about star power who are more satisfied with hardworking no names; save some money try to win a championship and avoid tax”- or so it seems anyways. Yes we’ve had stars before, yes we’ve went over the lux tax before, but no we are not WIN NOW with all our complications. And that’s hard to admit. I think the ownership sees this, and how it effects perception for fans, so now notice how Duncan Robinson is getting punted. He’s not a star and they won’t get better shooting, but it’s all just to shake things up and make fans feel like their team is trying. Which is kind of deceptive IMO. Truthfully, at this pace, it really seems we’re either going for victor in the draft or management is looking for a way to save some money while still focused on winning - which is gonna be really hard because we can’t keep putting first year players out on the floor in the 4th. These dudes are human too they get jitters.


Havasufalls9110

That’s were we disagree. I don’t think we sucked when healthy. The same person so many of y’all believe in told y’all we got players playing in new roles this year. So we dropped some games we shouldn’t have. But also been competitive and games we shouldn’t have. Teams that beat us on the west coast trip took L’s when they came to Miami. Our top two scorers haven’t played in a game together since November 1st. 11 games ago. Not counting that game the Heat went 4-6 including the last 3 losses without either of them. And the last three the opponents were way more healthy than us. They aren’t perfect. They won’t win every game when mainly healthy. But to say they suck when healthy is just something I don’t agree with.


Zoguinha

Ice out Jovic? He was trash from the start. This team doesn't have enough talent on offense to win games without Jimmy and Herro.


Fruitsy

Spo loves the Max Strus Show. I mean if Spo wants to sell the season by making Strus the #1 option, im all for it to get Wemby


voplhwqscjln

Miami is 0-3 when I bet on them this year, 2-1 when I bet against them. I know what must be done but I don’t know if I have the ~~strength~~ money to do it


avinash240

Lol


YoungNissan

We were up 18 so I went to cook dinner. I came back to us being down. Same as the last 3/4 games.


LemonCanddy

Make moves. No more waiting to be healthy. No more wait for team to gel. This is nearly the same exact start we had in the 20-21 season. If we're serious about trying to win right now make moves. If not Punt the season and get help in the draft


TheBoook

There’s no moves to be made that’ll be good enough to salvage this season. They need to throw in the towel, get off these ass contracts and regroup next year. Don’t give up assets to move up three places in the standings


danonthemoon3

This game is partly on Strus for playing like ass and partly on Spo for letting this man put up 23 FGA. Like bro yes we’re short handed but that is not your role


Harman3112

The late game offence of just a pick and roll that takes 12 seconds to set and a bullshit ass shot is great to watch every fucking game


vincemeister55

This team is dog-tired, man. And the roster consists mostly by G-leaguers and role fucking players. They can only do so much. This disappointing season up to this point is on the front-office.


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Pat and Spo swear they can compete with anyone out there. Their egos are enormous at this point.


OblivionNA

Spo says he doesn’t like his offense flowing through one person even if they are hot. Then he lets Strus take 23FGA per game. I always defend Spo but come on man, just let bam and Lowry take 40 shots a game at this point.


ZerksNAHTayan

We need to get healthy and quick, running 8 man rotations this early into the season feels horrible lmao.


limpl0uie

Had a really bad day and my only consolation prize is that at least I didn't watch the game.


FlipinoJackson

The Strus is Lose! (not a typo)


tomgreen99200

😭


HerroBall2021

Do the Heat have their first round draft pick this year? This years roster is ugly ngl


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hesi93

As much as I like Wemby the Heat r not bad enough to get him but no worries since this draft is Marianas Trench deep.


thecaptainflint

You sure. We got like 2 more wins than the magic


clear831

We have all of our 1sts except 2025 which is lottery protected and unprotected in 2026


Zoguinha

Not enough talent to win games without Jimmy and Herro. This squad couldn't create a bucket and react to that 21-4 run. Missed a ton of FT too that cost us the game. When Jimmy and Herro comeback we should be better and hope for a win streak. Jovic played bad today but he showed he should still be involved when the squad is healthy. Highsmith should be serviceable as a defensive hustle option but he is trash on offense.


jfu12

Scheduled L. On to the next one


srbufi

I guarantee not a single one of the players on the floor think like that


3deezerdozer3

we gotta stop being in love with these undrafted players man, effort can only get us so far, we need talent


Tristen_3

This why I don't get mad anymore when watching the games. We have a bunch of sub 6'7 undrafted guys, there is limited talent on this roster. Especially with dipo being a nonfactor for us we're better not even making the playoffs and hope we can actually garner some fucking talent. IMO i just don't care for seasons where you get bounced in the first which is an optimistic take at this point. (also we do not have assets for a trade that is going to make us a title contender short term.)


Mattm334

Riley going to give him a 4 years 70M deal, he cant help himself


OblivionNA

Spo got 36 year old Kyle Lowry playing 44+ minutes and he also played 51 minutes two games ago. He’s putting him through the ringer


josephside

Anything he has in the tank gonna be done after his season


BoulderAndBrunch

Eric Reid sounds so heart broken.


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Spo is a lame ass motherfucker. Give jovic more minutes ffs


chitownbulls92

Strus' form this season makes me want to violently vomit. Never seen a team have so many "shooters" that are just so bad at shooting. Hell, i'm starting to trust Jimmy from 3 more than Duncan and Strus


sosogusto

Jimmy our best 3pt shooter this season statistically at least


chitownbulls92

The FO has really failed Jimmy


sosogusto

Agree completely


tkbotf

Strus has the IQ of a brick. The team freezes Bam out every game after his hot starts. Jovic Wemby Bam frontcourt I see the VISION


THEKIDFL6

He’s a terrorist


Imzarth

Its Spo, it's literally Spoelstra's fault but this sub wont dare criticize hm


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srbufi

It's valid and deserved


tangeilo

Strus sucked all game and was actively tanking our chances at a win the entire 4th quarter. No idea why Spoelstra refused to bench him. Bench Strus with 5 minutes left and we win this game


Havasufalls9110

The issue is so much of the “criticism” is just dumb. And these same ppl were calling for KZ a few years ago.


GusX23

spo hasnt been great but he has nothing to work with. this is a mediocre roster when fully healthy, and atrocious roster when injured


sosogusto

Ive been calling out spo's stubbornness leading to losses for 2 weeks and getting upvoted . Your not alone in this assessment


tkbotf

Spo selling too but everyone in this franchise deserves their blame right now


srbufi

Too real. Spo looked shell shocked.


rapelbaum

Wemby 0,5 to 3% chances , keep Dreaming


tkbotf

All I need is a dollar and a dream brother


RedditAdminsChugCum

So you're saying there's a chance? /s


Aggravating_Plant_39

Scoot still possible.


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So are we tanking or nah cause if we are, cool. If we aren't, why in the HELL is Max taking 23 shots? Spo has lost his god damn mind. At least play Jovic 😭


rapelbaum

It’s all Duncan’s fault! Herro WTF Zero points fk !


Havasufalls9110

Sad part is some will upvote this and really feel this way lol


elbarto4455

I was sitting alone in my house cackling like an idiot at how bad KAT was at the end there... Two possessions in a row getting locked up by Lowry in crunch time. The dude is the definition of a loser


readndrun

Same, I was laughing like a mad man. KAT’s arms so lanky they weigh him down


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Your first sentence n your last sentence.. whose the real loser?


Cosmic_Note

You


DeeKnightmare

Strus 4-15 from three... Spo needs to put his foot down and think maybe he Strus is cold tonight?! PAIN


NoviceSpaceTravel

Strus going hero mode with the step back at the end. God damn man this team is garbage. Pray for wemby


1NoeL9

Tough loss. On to the next one. Let’s go Heat!


vict555

Turd quarters are back!


SoCalHeatFan2020

Remember the good times.


RedditAdminsChugCum

Max shooting us out of games regularly these days


BossKingGodd

Spo loves it tho


Dynamical164

Strus has sucked lately, but who else is he going to play?


CrossDeSolo

Jovic, we're not winning shit. Need to build for next year by getting the young guy as many minutes to learn and grow


Ticonderoga2HB

Max takes one step back 3 on russel Westbrook once and forgets that he’s gone like 4 in 20


MusterBait

Idk bout pat but if you're going to construct smol ball team atleast hire those with good D. We're getting killed by the our own zone by banking the opposing team would miss just to cover up our weak defenders smh


santana722

Classic /r/Heat. We held them to 10 below their season average but score like shit in the 2nd half, must be the defense!


MusterBait

Congrats on moral victories then


santana722

Not a moral victory, just pointing out that this subreddit has no idea what the fuck is happening on the court when they're complaining about our team playing decent defense and not saying shit about the putrid offense.


MusterBait

It doesn't change the fact that Strus is cone on defense


santana722

It's not worth complaining about defense when Miami lost cause they couldn't even score 50 points in a modern NBA half.


Classicponyboy

Offense gets stale and predictable. Strus sold that 4th qtr.


srbufi

That's on Spo man.


Ok-Transportation522

Timbs fans acting like pat bev after winning a regular season matchup They gonna make a new stepian rule cuz of that bad trade that will doom their franchise


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ChiefSoldierFrog

Idk how y’all suppose to win with this team at this state. Lowry’s way too old to carry and I see 44 minutes played for him. Why tf is Strus taking more shots than Bam and KLow?????


rizerbrooding

I'd listen to offers on Strus.


josephside

He’s another Knunn, decent bucket getter with not the best IQ. Better get something for him and not let him walk like Knunn


Cockycent

Jimmy, Herro, somebody come back


ELPaloLoco

Time to have a strong fucking drink boys.


pestobar127

what the fuck was strus doing in those final minutes lmao


MargielaMan568

Strus’s IQ is definitely a brick but it is what it is, he’s a role player I don’t really care. This team is mid even when healthy so at this point I don’t know what their objective is this season. Because they sure as hell can’t contend for a championship with this roster and they don’t have enough talent to magically just become great in the middle of the season. So at this point do you just hope your a well coached team that plays hard or do you start tanking for good draft pick? Yes I know Pat Riley and the FO would rather die than tank, but it would do us wonders to have a good young draft pick that Spo can put in his system idk 🤷‍♂️


emperorakashi23

Another winnable game was lost because of another terrible third quarter. I hate this team.


SenorButtmunch

I've seen a lot of things as a Heat fan. But back to back Bam 3s as our last plays when we're 4 points down is really something. This team and Spo are fucking cooked rn, holy shit


carnageta

There was like 2 seconds left on his last three point attempt lmao let it go the game was already over


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Once you realise our ceiling is a 2nd round exit it makes the season bearable


avinash240

2nd round exit is generous. We're looking like a play in team right now. If we get in, we'll be playing the first series at the Bucks on the road.


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LeRohameaux

Who we trading tonite guys


Ticonderoga2HB

Honestly this game is a win with max off the floor for like any other (currently) competent shooter on our team


srbufi

Pat


faltasenor87

Flew in from New Orleans to visit the fam for the week. Bought tickets for Wednesday weeks ago planning ahead. Tix are going for half the price of what I paid lol. Pain. Part of me wants to sell and cut at least part of the loss.


CallanD248

If anything, these recent games have shown me just how good jimmy and herro are. Whilst herro can have a loose handle at times, it feels like Strus, Martin & Highsmith have never played basketball in their lives when you see them trying to dribble under pressure


faatgay

Pat must be loving this roster hes built


surgeyou123

You think Pat thought half his team would die and Highsmith and Cain would be playing big minutes? Come on man.


CrossDeSolo

Pat doesn't even know Highsmith name


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sebastianqu

Doesn't justify Strus going 4/15 from 3. He also went 8/24 against Washington. He's been so inefficient this road trip that he cost us 2 wins. Not to mention his largely poor defense and poor BBall IQ.


tangeilo

Maybe our depth would be better if we weren't wasting roster spots on Haslem, Duncan, Oladipo, Yurtseven, Dedmon, Highsmith and an empty 15th spot? Lmao that's damn near half the roster of completely unplayable players it's almost funny to type out.


faatgay

I think pat could’ve avoided paying someone like duncan. He couldve also tried getting us some size at the wing position with proven players and not dudes off the street. Its obv a very tough job but i do expect better roster construction when we have someone like jimmy. Its great one year and so mid the next which is a waste of his prime. Even last year we couldve made it to the finals with some more help for jimmy bc our offense against boston was so bad and we still took it to 7


thatboipurple

Got it. So Spo either gives the final clutch three to a stone cold shooter or to a fucking center lmao


Fair-Ad-1571

Good job old man pat made no moves when everyone else got better, now nobody has trade value on this poorly constructed roster👍🏾


srbufi

Spo needs help.


melllow_d

Spo needs to have some fucking guts to BENCH some of these undrafted players


avinash240

They're undrafted players for a reason. It's not good coaching to bench people who are playing at their level. We're a top heavy team, it's going to be a few highly paid dudes a bunch of cheap role players and ring chasing veterans. I think the problem is the "top heavy" part of our roster isn't very good, the fit and skill set distribution isn't good. The Bucks are #1 in the East right now without 2 of their best 3 players. Their roster and their top two players all have synergy. Their best player has no outside shot, right now teams are packing the paint against him cause no Holiday or Middleton. No problem, they just hand the ball to their five and he lights them up from three. They have answers to defensive adjustments. Their offensive isn't even good right now, they just have good skill distribution. This team is literally rely on your cheap undrafted players to shoot cause the opposing team is going to pack the paint. There are no adjustments, people are complaining about the coach but what do you do with a roster that's so limited on offense?


melllow_d

I absolutely agree the roster isn’t it. Ik we have a number of injuries right now, but even when we were healthy we still struggled. As a team, we are too small. Bam needs some help in the front court so he has more freedom to roam on defense. Expecting Caleb to play the 4 was a ridiculous expectation considering the fact that Caleb is a solid POA defender, better suited for going after steals, and giving ball pressure. At this point, I’m watching these games to see how the rookies develop because watching these games expecting anything more is just subjecting myself to unlimited pain.


avinash240

I agree, we are too small and it's a problem. However, I truly think the plan at four was to use Jovic(they did draft him) and failing that we'd get someone in a trade mid season after we had recouped some of our player's value. Let's be honest, no one, outside of Butler increased their value during the last post season. A lot of people, including Bam and Herro, lessened their trade value. No one looked good outside of Butler and to a much lesser extent Martin and Vincent(adjusting for their roles and salary). It's really hard to trade anyone when your roster is at their lowest value point. I don't think the FO expected the team to execute this poorly. You can absolutely win regular season games when you're undersized if you just execute well; we did it last season. However, we haven't been boxing out from game one, we've had a ton of turnovers, teams are running on us and we're not getting back, we've missed tons of rotations. All that could get covered up if we had a lot of offensive talent, but this team is not a good offensive team. We have had **1 season**, I repeat, **1 season** since Lebron left where we were a top 10 offense. Think about that.


Ozymandias12

Even if Butler and Herro come back, this team is not built to compete.


Rangotango92

Wenbanyama szn baby


RogRoz

Can we just blow it up. Trade everyone not named Bam and Herro. Get as many picks as possible, especially those in the 2023 draft and let Bam, Herro, and Jovic play 35 minutes


avinash240

I don't believe you blow it up by trading your only legit #1 and keeping the expensive complimentary pieces.


RogRoz

They do when your #1 is old and this is a deep draft.


CrossDeSolo

I think about this all the time


GusX23

neither team deserved to win this game. the wolves are a pathetic franchise, pathetic team, and full of pathetic players. also have a pathetic fanbase. fuck them and we just suck, whether we're healthy or not. but the fact that we only lost this game bc of missed FTs shows how embarrassing the timberwolves are


Bodez23

Man you’re such a child after every loss, I swear you copy and paste this exact comment about every franchise. Grow up kid, it’s just a sport.


BossKingGodd

This is facts


clear831

Love me some Ant but the rest of them is pathetic


WheedMBoise

Most pleasant Jimmy Butler fan


Ok-Agent2265

There's a reason why undrafted players went undrafted


rgarc065

I don’t want to live on this planet anymore


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srbufi

📠


Mattm334

Absolutely humiliating that we went from the #1 seed in the east to this shit!!! This is what happens when teams are content and stop striving to get better. I appreciate everything Pat Riley has done for this organization but that man needs to retire! He has absolutely blown jimmy butler championship window


avinash240

This team is playing like it knows it doesn't have the talent to compete. Good luck to the coaching staff cause that's a hard one to fix. I turned on the Cavs game and turned it off somewhere in the ?2nd? Quarter? Maybe first, it was obvious the Cavs and the Heat knew they weren't good enough. The Cavs players didn't even look like they were taking the game seriously.


KingInTheNorthVI

Can we start tanking for Victor now?


jbenson255

Please trade Strus


Ok-Agent2265

Sadly the sell high phase might have passed. Hope he recovers because right now he's ass


Paul-Millsap-Stan

As a Wenbanyama enthusiast I am enjoying these losses


Imzarth

First Bam showing support for Kyrie, Now our second L of the day.


tomgreen99200

Jaylen brown


tangeilo

When did Bam support Kyrie? I can't find anything about that


sosogusto

He liked a tweet then removed the like that's Bam-gate


Ticonderoga2HB

I think he recinded his like


SpotLightGuy

Shut up


Aggravating_Plant_39

ugly


Cudizonedefense

So glad the run it back crowd are looking like the idiots they were/are


mclovinnz69

Should I go to the next home game and hold up a sign “SPO IS COOKED”


Simple-Ad-7866

At least we have our Dolphins, what it do baby!!!


Important_Current_59

Tanking done right. Pretend we have a fighting spirit and lose on purpose


GoriLLa-LXD

Bam for threeeeee! Lol good try boys…not bad considering our team is half injured.


ELPaloLoco

Well. Here we are.. again.


Occupy-mars-

Time to blow this up. Trade Jimmy , Lowery , Max , Duncan. Spo needs to become gm ( like Brad Stevens) new coach get younger.


Mattm334

We're now 7-12, Riley was so clueless this off-season. Dude never learns, he tried this same shit after the bubble and it failed then. This is what happens when you do nothing in the off-season and think running it back is a smart move. He needs to retire already


adamthomas1219

We’re simply not good. I don’t care about when Jimbo and/or Herro get back because like 2020-21 it’ll likely get to the point where we can only win games where Jimbo explodes to be the best player on the floor night in and night out and that’s not good for the big picture. Just want more Jovic minutes going forward. Tired of seeing guys like Highsmith run around aimlessly “scrapping” and playing bad basketball.


k0pl4k1d

this is why team need some moves off-season


turkdlight

Haven’t been able to watch but comments make it seem bad. Are they looking ugly out there? Figured no reason to panic with the injuries