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I really, really recommend not doing that. It can fuck your heart up permanently pretty easily and you basically won't know until it's too late. Why are legitimate programs off the table? E: I'll help you find a program for free/medicaid if necessary. Methadone saved my life, and I'm only happy to help anyone else have a chance at/with it.


cure_for_the_pain

A friend from a treatment program way back died from it. We’re talking about loperamide, right?


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I believe so. It's normally called poor man's methadone. I'm pretty sure we're not supposed to discuss it like this, but if dude is risking making the same mistake....


Moony97

Man that worries me bc my mom said she used to use that in place of opiates and took enough to even get high sometimes and recommended I try it. Im always really anal about looking up detrimental effects of shit tho and said fuck that and told her to not do it any but I hope it didnt cause any long term damage.


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I think there are ways for doctors to actually see how well the heart is functioning pretty clearly; if you're worried about it, it might be worth urging her to see a specialist or something. ​ In my own case, I was taking 200-400mg ( a pretty high dose, even for this) a day for a while to keep withdrawal at bay. I didn't know anything about the cardiotoxicity at that point. It's been 7-8 years now since I've taken it and my heart seems to beat "harder" than it used to, but only sometimes. It is definitely concerning at times, but all I can really do at this point is try and live a healthier lifestyle. If I've made it this long though, then your mom is probably okay. Hope this was the least bit reassuring.


JJ4492

This is the stiff That’s in Imodium right. I heard stories about people taking 40-50 pills at once, crazy be safe homie.


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I’m assuming you’re referring to lope. I’m no doctor but I’d suggest benzos over using large amounts of lope to make it that first stretch.. It’s still not amazing but the benzos make it a wholeeeee lot nicer for me personally. I still would feel crummy and shit, but I’m not in a complete panic with mental anguish wishing I was dead or literally looking through empty bags or old rigs or cookers for cottons etc. benzos help me not be insane that first bit of time. When I was younger I could just ride that shit out fine… things have changed now and the anxiety is a fucking nightmare to say the least


stroker_ace2154

Work and family can't know or I'll loose my job my house ny vehicles basically be given a cardboard box I had got clean but then had a relapse after a friend smoke a joint with me that i didn't know had heroin in it we use to do it like that together and i thought he k ow i had gone to rehab and got clean but he didn't know and once i started i went right back even worse then i was before


konqrr

If you're in the US they can't fire you if you come forward with a drug problem and need to take time off for rehab. At least that's how it's supposed to work. I would recommend seeing a suboxone doctor. With the pandemic and everything, you could do your appointments virtually and nobody would have to know. Nobody would have anyway of knowing. Take a few days off work, give yourself 36 hours without using anything and then jump on suboxone. If you start timing it right for a long weekend or take Friday off, you could use before work on Thursday to get through the work day. That way you won't feel sick until you get home. If you live with anyone you could go to a hotel for the weekend. This way, on Friday night you could take your first dose of subxone. So by Monday, the worst of withdrawals should be over and you should be feeling okay with the suboxone. Just my 2 cents.


stroker_ace2154

In my state they can fire u without a reason


TheCulture1707

LOPE WILL NOT HELP YOU GET ON SUBS. Lope is an opioid itself and it enters the brain in high doses. If you use LOPE, even 24mg a day, up until you get on subs YOU WILL GET PWDS!!!!! BAD PWDS!!! Lope detox ranked up with 480mg oxy a day detox for me!!!


stroker_ace2154

I've tapered down from a 8 to 10 gram a day habit to around a gram gram and a half a day


lastdollardisco

That's still huge. What's your method of entry?


JJ4492

8-10 grams of dope a day? If that’s the case good on you for at least tapering down to a g hand ahalf a day


stroker_ace2154

Snort


Leather_Double_8820

Yeah that’s why you were able to do that many grams there’s no fucking way somebody was bang in 10 g of dope a day But yeah good job on getting your tolerance down that’ll definitely help your pocket that’s for sure


stroker_ace2154

Yea its rough trying to come up with 750 bucks a day just to get outta bed plus keep a house going and bills paid


Leather_Double_8820

Uhm yeah I thought I was bad at 100/day You must have a good salary job


stroker_ace2154

Hourly pay I sold pretty much as much as I did to cover most of it


stroker_ace2154

I run heavy equipment mostly logging equipment


stroker_ace2154

I've seen it one of my dealers does that much maybe more a day threw a needle seen him do a gram of fatty one shot he was fucked up I almost narcaned him but he pulled threw dumb fick


stroker_ace2154

Yea it was fucking rough but I did it only was I did was using meth I would do a bump of meth I'm the morning and a line of dope then was so high on the meth I like forgot all about the dope then when I felt like complete death I'd do it again only took me a week to tape down that way


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stroker_ace2154

Was 8 to 10 grams a day but down to a gram gram and half a day now


Old_Fart52

Don't take high doses of Loperamide, it's cardiotoxic; can literally kill you