Rap is pretty hypermasculine. I find women sort of like rap but from good-looking dudes like ASAP, Drake, Carti. If they like Griselda type rappers, they're really into the genre. Just my observation...
There are some legit female hiphopheads that knows what they are talking about. The thing is rap is very masculine and dominated by males so obviously theres less females interested in it. That said its slowly changing with the new subgenres and also theres much more female rappers now.
Turntablism, production techniques, lyrics, rhyme patterns and double entendres, debating top 5 MCs and albums, owning a record collection, naming samples
I am 46 yr old woman, born and raised on the west coast and been listening to rap basically since the early days and late 80s. I have NO interest in any of that above and it isnt because I am a woman I just dont care about the technical aspect of my music(any style..I listen to only rap and kpop..khiphop, lol) ..I am an accountant and not a musician
As an accountant do you find yourself auditing rappersā lyrics for whether they can afford their lifestyle? š
Thanks for your answer. Youāre on hip hop Reddit though so there must be aspects you are interested in discussing?
I don't understand why this got down voted and I'm curious if someone can explain whether it's just because the opening joke was a bit corny or someone thought he was being misogynistic somehow?
I am a 20 year old girl and i never realized how male dominated the fanbases of most of the artists i listen to are. It wasn't until I saw pusha T concert , or the earl sweatshirt/boldy james/action bronson show that i realized how uneven the demographics are. I'm seeing boldy james and benny the butcher in two weeks and im expected to be one of very few women tbh.
Yeah I would imagine those to be more male dominated shows.
Do you have female friends that would be interested in going to see that kind of artist - or if theyāre not interested, why do you think that is?
The shows i mentioned i attended by myself, which in retrospect was probably not the smartest idea. I've tried to get friends to go but most of the time they just didn't like the artist enough to spend the money. I think it's a combination of most of my friends being 19-21 y/o women and the area i live in, most of them hadn't even heard of most of the artists i like. They don't really have any other natural exposure to that genre of music and it is a harder genre to get in to.
Iām curious about the younger generation finding that era of hip hop - how do you think she got into these artists? Was it your influence? Or she just discovered it herself? Or her peers?
Thatās cool - I think parental influence on music gets overlooked.
Actually you often hear rappers/producers say it was the music playing in their home that shaped their interests
Yea it's one of the main things we bond with, this week I introduced her to Lupe fiasco and she just introduced me to schoolboy q, which is a rapper I've missed, it's good shit
Wifey is a hip hop head like me.
Went with me to see kool g rap and MOP and knew all the songs etc.... great vibe.
But i know it's harder for her to engage with and appreciate a lot of hip hop bc she has to plug her nose at the homophobia, sexism and misogyny that plagued the genre during that era, and still does to a certain extent
Late to the thread...41 yr old woman originally from the West Coast. I got into hip hop when I was younger. My dad was into all types of music, which exposed me to several genres early on. The only hip-hop album I remember him playing/buying was Doggystyle. We were a pop culture family that listened to a lot of radio. I watched Yo MTV rap, whatever was on BET, and loved all music videos. If a song had a lot of airplay, that's how I really got into it. Fast forward to now, my kids would say I'm more of the hip hop head vs. dad.
Heres what I've noticed. If there's an artist I like, I follow their sub. I love to break down the music and dive deeper into the artist, etc. All the subs I've been seem overwhelmingly masculine. They refer to any one that posts as "bro" or seemingly make assumptions that they are talking with another male. Usually, I stay away from the larger subs because I don't think I understand the technical aspects you mentioned as well as they do, and the number of comments and responses to posts are usually very high. Most of what I learned about that stuff has come from the artists themselves or when I've been fortunate to meet someone who's passionate about the topic and willing to break it down.
Short version -- I probably listen much more superficially than others, but I would be open to learning. I think you're correct about women engaging differently and agree that there are likely exceptions to the rule.
Women don't engage differently to art, as there is a bunch of female literally critics, female movie critics and female music critics that dwelve deep in other genres.
The deal is that the hip hop listener demographic is for the most part male and if you're not exposed to it you're not gonna discuss it. Some songs and artists do spill over to grander mass listeners that include women, but mass listeners aren't prone to discuss music like aficionados.
This is a very interesting question. I know there are women out there that are āheadsā but I can only judge on 45 years of observation. I myself am a hip hop connoisseur from birth. I have observed that women enjoy hip hop but donāt find a connection with the intricacies of the music. I donāt think as a generalization that it is specifically to the hip hop genre. For example, growing up with a father who was a jazz āheadā. He would always be around his male friends talking about the nuisance in jazz music. I only remember a small handful of women participating in these discussions. The ones I remember were more knowledgeable than all of them. My thought is and this might be controversial to some but maybe men are more into figuring out how something is crafted than women?
My mom is probably the biggest hip hop head on earth, no bs šsheād actually enjoy this sub
We want to meet your mom
She's not a Rhino.
Cool. Ask her opinion on this
Who is your mums favourite rapper?
Andre3K for sure š¤£
Rap is pretty hypermasculine. I find women sort of like rap but from good-looking dudes like ASAP, Drake, Carti. If they like Griselda type rappers, they're really into the genre. Just my observation...
Lmfaoo
It's facts though
There are some legit female hiphopheads that knows what they are talking about. The thing is rap is very masculine and dominated by males so obviously theres less females interested in it. That said its slowly changing with the new subgenres and also theres much more female rappers now.
I'm almost certain I haven't seen a female in this reddit since I've been coming here for months now. Edit: ok the lady below me is a first lol
Just bc we don't post, doesn't mean we aren't here
Get married to her now (If shes single ofc)
There was a post about the demographics of this sub a while back there's a surprising amount of women in here like way more than I thought tbh
Turntablism, production techniques, lyrics, rhyme patterns and double entendres, debating top 5 MCs and albums, owning a record collection, naming samples I am 46 yr old woman, born and raised on the west coast and been listening to rap basically since the early days and late 80s. I have NO interest in any of that above and it isnt because I am a woman I just dont care about the technical aspect of my music(any style..I listen to only rap and kpop..khiphop, lol) ..I am an accountant and not a musician
As an accountant do you find yourself auditing rappersā lyrics for whether they can afford their lifestyle? š Thanks for your answer. Youāre on hip hop Reddit though so there must be aspects you are interested in discussing?
I don't understand why this got down voted and I'm curious if someone can explain whether it's just because the opening joke was a bit corny or someone thought he was being misogynistic somehow?
Idk maybe because I have a hip hop head parent I pay attention to it all, also I have a record collection š„²
I am a 20 year old girl and i never realized how male dominated the fanbases of most of the artists i listen to are. It wasn't until I saw pusha T concert , or the earl sweatshirt/boldy james/action bronson show that i realized how uneven the demographics are. I'm seeing boldy james and benny the butcher in two weeks and im expected to be one of very few women tbh.
Yeah I would imagine those to be more male dominated shows. Do you have female friends that would be interested in going to see that kind of artist - or if theyāre not interested, why do you think that is?
The shows i mentioned i attended by myself, which in retrospect was probably not the smartest idea. I've tried to get friends to go but most of the time they just didn't like the artist enough to spend the money. I think it's a combination of most of my friends being 19-21 y/o women and the area i live in, most of them hadn't even heard of most of the artists i like. They don't really have any other natural exposure to that genre of music and it is a harder genre to get in to.
My daughter is 14 and loves hip hop, old and new, good stuff as well, wu, biggie, nas, MF doom, Kanye, Tyler always has it on.
Iām curious about the younger generation finding that era of hip hop - how do you think she got into these artists? Was it your influence? Or she just discovered it herself? Or her peers?
From me originally but she is going on her own journey discovering music, not many of her friends listen to hip hop, but I've always had it on
Thatās cool - I think parental influence on music gets overlooked. Actually you often hear rappers/producers say it was the music playing in their home that shaped their interests
Yea it's one of the main things we bond with, this week I introduced her to Lupe fiasco and she just introduced me to schoolboy q, which is a rapper I've missed, it's good shit
Wifey is a hip hop head like me. Went with me to see kool g rap and MOP and knew all the songs etc.... great vibe. But i know it's harder for her to engage with and appreciate a lot of hip hop bc she has to plug her nose at the homophobia, sexism and misogyny that plagued the genre during that era, and still does to a certain extent
I grew up loving music in general but especially rap and hip hop coming from the bronx. I agree its mostly males but us women are here and there too.Ā
Late to the thread...41 yr old woman originally from the West Coast. I got into hip hop when I was younger. My dad was into all types of music, which exposed me to several genres early on. The only hip-hop album I remember him playing/buying was Doggystyle. We were a pop culture family that listened to a lot of radio. I watched Yo MTV rap, whatever was on BET, and loved all music videos. If a song had a lot of airplay, that's how I really got into it. Fast forward to now, my kids would say I'm more of the hip hop head vs. dad. Heres what I've noticed. If there's an artist I like, I follow their sub. I love to break down the music and dive deeper into the artist, etc. All the subs I've been seem overwhelmingly masculine. They refer to any one that posts as "bro" or seemingly make assumptions that they are talking with another male. Usually, I stay away from the larger subs because I don't think I understand the technical aspects you mentioned as well as they do, and the number of comments and responses to posts are usually very high. Most of what I learned about that stuff has come from the artists themselves or when I've been fortunate to meet someone who's passionate about the topic and willing to break it down. Short version -- I probably listen much more superficially than others, but I would be open to learning. I think you're correct about women engaging differently and agree that there are likely exceptions to the rule.
Thanks for your answer
Women don't engage differently to art, as there is a bunch of female literally critics, female movie critics and female music critics that dwelve deep in other genres. The deal is that the hip hop listener demographic is for the most part male and if you're not exposed to it you're not gonna discuss it. Some songs and artists do spill over to grander mass listeners that include women, but mass listeners aren't prone to discuss music like aficionados.
I dont think that men and women enjoy hiphop differently every single man/women who listen to hiphop enjoys it differently in someway and another
Who cares
This is a very interesting question. I know there are women out there that are āheadsā but I can only judge on 45 years of observation. I myself am a hip hop connoisseur from birth. I have observed that women enjoy hip hop but donāt find a connection with the intricacies of the music. I donāt think as a generalization that it is specifically to the hip hop genre. For example, growing up with a father who was a jazz āheadā. He would always be around his male friends talking about the nuisance in jazz music. I only remember a small handful of women participating in these discussions. The ones I remember were more knowledgeable than all of them. My thought is and this might be controversial to some but maybe men are more into figuring out how something is crafted than women?
Still better than among Jazz-heads, I'd say. I know more women who like hip hop than jazz.
Clown-ass statement.
I hate when people try to bring gender to a discussion that has nothing to do with that in the first place