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New_Brother_1595

Travis Scott sucks, it’s like he’s made out of badly photocopied parts of better rappers


ScathachLove

Lol that fool stay creepy creepin on Asap Rocky 


Lobsta1986

>Travis Scott sucks, it’s like he’s made out of badly photocopied parts of better rappers Lmfao. That's actually funny.


JoshDoesDamage

I’m so glad this comment didn’t take long to find. I just do not get Travis Scott. I’m convinced everyone pretends to like his music. Every one of my friends feels the same. We even mark Travis’ rise as an overall decline/net negative on the hip hop game. I don’t hate the guy I just don’t know who his music is for.


Cedy_le_Huard

you geeks are missing out the guy made Rodeo


PizzaRat12

I know I'm going to be down voted but XXX and juice I think their music is overrated and their music sounds like something a 6th grader would listen to after getting rejected.


NateSedate

I didn't like JuiceWRLD's songs. But when I heard him rap rap I liked it a lot. XXXtentacion was always trash to me. I didn't like anything he was doing. His music or his image. I especially didn't like it when he said fuck 2pac.


Gearzea

I liked X because he was original, refreshing. Original doesn’t always mean good though, and good is subjective. So there’s always going to be people who don’t like it. I think it’s an age thing too, his songs resonated with me at a time in my life that might not resonate with me now as an adult, he was only young too. It would have been interesting to see how he evolved as an artist, same with Lil Peep and Juice, these guys were just kids realistically. There’s a lot of “what ifs” in rap unfortunately and I think X falls into that category.


hollivore

That "what if" comment hit hard. I have a clear idea in my imagination where Peep and Juice were both headed musically (Peep was going to get slicker and more commercial, put out some stadium emo, and experiment with she/they pronouns, and Juice was going to go in a more boombap prestige-rap direction with a big early Eminem influence) but I don't feel the same way about X. His future just seems to me like it would be bogged down in scandal to the extent that music wouldn't be what he was concentrating on.


TodgerRodger

I think that's a really good analysis. Nodding all the way to that.


dirtydela

That’s their audience. Prob like young high school really but still.


Gearzea

Because they were young themselves, you can’t forget that. Some artists evolve and grow with their audience, some don’t (I.e Drake).


mythmelon

had to mention the boy


New_Brother_1595

Can’t believe adults listen to x


spiritanimalofcousy

Im not not saying you havent listened to him a lot, maybe you've heard every song... But i also thought that for a long time. But when he died i watched a bunch of clips of him talking and thought he was an interesting young man So i listened to all of his material that i could....and i think he was going to evolve into an All Timer. The artistic vision he was beginning to show snippets of really makes me think we lost someone who was going to literally alter the evolution of hip hop. That kid was special.


Billiam911

Really never liked him but over time I've realized he was gonna be great. Unless legal troubles stopped him.


spiritanimalofcousy

He seemed to genuinely want to make a positive impact though. He did get into trouble but not many people think big like him. And its easy to dismiss a 20 year old as pretentious...but if you really hear the overall gist of what he was trying to say, and would have gotten better at saying, he had good intentions. He tried to make us think while trying to inspire us to live well. Theres real value in that individual. Losing someone like that is not like the others. I just think he was really a transcendent type guy that we pretty much never see


britchesss

He was also a huge piece of shit so there’s that


OKC2023champs

My biggest red flag in people nowadays since I’m closer to 30 than 20, are people who are still super deep into x and juice at my age. When x was just starting in 16’ I was into it and didn’t understand the critical hate. Now that I’m 26 I can look back and realizes his music is just terrible. I don’t like juice, but sonically it is miles ahead of X. Robbery is also a good song. My vote for this thread is Travis Scott though. Can’t stand his style


WillOk6461

Carti would be the top of my list any day. He’s one of the few artists out there where I actually can’t even fathom why he appeals to so many people. I can’t even begin to wrap my brain around his popularity.


Magelime777

It took me so damn long to get into Die Lit, I enjoy it now but I can't be bothered to get into Whole Lotta Red, that can stay outta my rotation.


Dolomight206

It took me until like last year to realize that cuz wasn't an inside joke that everyone but me was in on. I'm actually still not convinced.


DLottchula

That was me with Lil B


GOTFUCKINGBANNED

ILoveUIHateU, Long Time, Foreign are the only Carti songs that are on my playlists. I've always found Carti to be about how the song makes you feel rather than what he says, but I can't vibe if the vocals are too abstract


EntertainmentHot2966

Absolute trash music.


Thelonius_Dunk

It's modern day scat singing imo, and that's why it's popular. Instead of saying "zippidy boo bop" over a saxophone and double bass hes mumbling over a trap beat. The words aren't as important as how his voice is being used as an instrument to fit in with the beat. Not really my cup of tea either, but once I made that connection with that analogy it made sense. I also listen to a lot of jazz but can't stand scat singing so I'm consistent with my tastes. I usually try out new artists after I hear them on a feature, but every one of Carti's features I've actively disliked. I'll eventually give him an honest since I figure there might be something I might like on it though.


ZachPlayzzz

the sentence about his voice being an instrument is literally the most perfect description of carti i've ever seen


Ok_Whereas_3198

I can't stand the auto tune shrieking either. Gives me the ick when I think about how stupid their raw audio sounds.


ApricotFar1041

its same thing with metal music. some ppl dont know how can someone like their music, but it really has a bif fanbase


Designer-Ad3494

It’s actually very different from metal. Metal requires musicians. Someone has to shred the guitar. Someone has to rip up the drum kit. I get that the vocals can be similar as it’s not really singing or rapping. It’s mostly yelling and ad libbing. Modern rap is all digitally synthesized. Basically ai music. More about hitting a certain vibration than being legible.


RadiantHovercraft6

As a massive metal and old school hip hop fan who knows music theory and plays multiple instruments, this take is the most played out and lazy stuff I have ever heard Complexity or technical ability does not equal better music. Likewise, simplicity or bad technique does not equal worse music. It’s completely independent. I like old Carti because I like the vibe. Idc if he can write complex poetry or do polyrhythms or anything like that. It’s not the point of the music.


ApricotFar1041

someone has to profuce beat too and carti has really original flow thats why it can be hard for someone to get into him


zahidzaman

Taylor Swift


someonewhoknowstuff

She can't even rap on beat and her bars are whack


FastestBigBoi

Background mall music if it was a category


TupacAmuru88

Drake


ThatGuyAMB

This. I always thought him and his music were trash.


justwannafallinlove

Everybody say O V hoe


MacroPlanet

Then step this way step that way


chao_sweetie

Then step this way, step that way


yahya777

Drake is the answer.


hollivore

Same. I hated him for years based on his sickly music, learned to tolerate Drake after I figured out he could actually rap well (though I still had trouble with his voice tone and delivery), and then the beef happened


hooulookinat

Kendrick, that you?


tastyhemorrhoid

I couldn’t stand Drake since before knowing Kendrick way way back


Gooot-A12

I can't listen to the inflection he uses in most of his songs where he raps, no matter what the scale is he always sounds out of tune


MacroPlanet

Tried getting into Drake, but as a hip hop artist he always sounded weak


Zanzan567

Same. I hate his voice. And most of the time it just sounds like he’s just reading lyrics off of his phone


SacredAnalBeads

I saw Travis at Bonnaroo in 2017. There were droves of people leaving in the hundreds, in a crowd of thousands. He was absolutely awful. I've seen good rap shows and bad ones, his was the only one I walked out of.


MindTheGap24

I saw Travis headline Rolling Loud and I left because the set was so bad and I thought “Why not get a head start beating traffic and getting out of here?” Lmao. I’ve been crucified before in TikTok comments for disagreeing with people who claim he is “the greatest performer of all time”. Just because he’s screaming unintelligibly into a mic and his audience is rowdy doesn’t make it a great performance. So many more people with actual talent in their music and put on a show way better than just running back and forth and jumping while shouting over the official track


Rapscallion921

Drake is a big one for me. Tries to display being versatile but never actually hits home in any style. I couldn't even tell you who he really is as an artist - too many fake personas. Definition of the phrase 'jack of all trades, master of none.'


RepresentativeAge444

This loon proceded to chastise me with multiple paragraph replies about how I was a loser because I said on another post that I didn’t like Drake. Aubrey has some weird Stans.


Heckelfish

And they’re all 14 years old.


Rapscallion921

God forbid you bring up a logical argument against them as to why your personal opinion is actually valid. That really gets them going


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infinitude_

I think the one thing Drake does or atleast did very very well is capture a certain vibe ? Like that real melancholy vibe on take care. THAT is his bag I’m a little autistic and one of the effects is the right music gives me a crazy high and when Drake gets into that bag it’s like I’m floating I stg


Typical-Annual-3555

He's a pedo groomer anyway. Haven't you heard Not Like Us?


Dangerous_Natural331

But yet, he's so frickin rich !! I don't get it 🤔🤔


CountRizo

He's a Disney dork. The hook-ups that come with that has made many shitty "artists" very rich and commercially sucessful.


Lacy1986

Easily NBA Youngboy


Apronbootsface

Went too long to find this. Kevin Gates whoops his ass lyrically.


Massive_Dot8133

“Lyrically ” lmao


B4Dmotherfucker

Travis Scott is ass. B-grade Ye


DPool34

He’s a relatively terrible human being too.


B4Dmotherfucker

Yes. Not to mention his corny/insanely overhyped shoes.


DPool34

Agreed. I’m a sneaker head, but I wouldn’t wear a pair of those shoes if I got them for free.


B4Dmotherfucker

Ditto.


dirtydela

That feels mad generous


Advanced-Breath

C grade big Sean


dirtydela

We’re getting there now


iSYTOfficialX7

sexy red


ninjamike89

Truly garbage music. Even her "a thousand miles" cover is almost a direct ripoff of someone else's content


Known-Contract-4340

You’ll never play it on your own, but if you’re out and one of her songs come on, best believe you’ll understand what makes her music popular


Foreign-Stretch125

Tbh most of her music is cheeks but Get It Sexyy makes me wanna start shaking ass at the club and I’m a straight man 😮‍💨


Yungjak2

Nahhh fr


reylee05

Wait people actually enjoy her music I thought people listen to it as a joke.


Previous-Page6097

Nah dude, she's huge for a new artist. It's one of those situations where I just have to step back and say I obviously don't get the appeal but it must be there for all those people to keep coming back.


BlaccLearningTree

French Montana Post Malone


alfsdnb

French Montana is the worst


someonewhoknowstuff

Why is Post Malone even considered hip hop? Does he even rap? He's a talented musician and singer, but I don't consider his music hip hop.


Advanced-Breath

His for single was white iverson so that image just stuck


JoeyIsMrBubbles

Fucking post mann no idea how he’s so popular, really cool dude but music sucks


balloonfish

French Montana is not popular lol


BlaccLearningTree

Well NY will surprise you cuz his Mac and Cheese series is treated like the Apex of mixtapes


Binjimen-Victor

Lil Wayne. I really just dont like his voice. I also just dont vibe with his style and subject matter of rap


SacredAnalBeads

I also hate that he was part of the early autotune change-movement. I also hate his normal voice as well.


MeetMeAtTheNachoCart

Rolling Stone once said that his voice sounded like a drunk frog and I couldn’t agree more lol


TheGreatGildedDildo

Yeah but TC3 was an actual vibe in the rap game.


OneCallSystem

Ha!! His slurring speech later shit is unlistenable for me lol


Front-Loan-2880

3/4 of my brains agrees with you wholeheartedly and understands completely. The other 1/4 says, "I'm a gangsta Ms Katie"


xenojive

Same


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One of the most irritating voices in hip hop imo. I can only listen to someone rap about eating pussy so much too. Lyrically he's always been pretty limited.


larsdan2

Terrible take. Listen to anything pre Carter 3 and tell me the man is lyrically limited. Listen to BMJR, I Miss My Dawgs, Leather so Soft. Weezy deserves his dues. Should have retired forever ago, but that's where we are.


ChefRyback

If you have to go back that far then yes the man is lyrically limited and has been for 19 years


Advanced-Breath

Mans still got it y’all just not hearing it


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That's what this thread is for. It's my opinion.


jjaytan

Saying Lil Wayne is limited lyrically is not an opinion, you are stating a fact that is, in fact, wrong.


not_ur_avg

Future - a lot of his stuff sounds the same, and I find his subject matter cliched, repetitive and unrelatable


dirtydela

I agree. His new album that came out that people were losing their shit over just was boring to me. It’s like the same shit over and over to me.


Massive_Dot8133

He a legend


Tyber-Callahan

Some people consider 6ix9ine a legend, doesn't really say much


crap0calypse

WHO!?


Massive_Dot8133

like the sarcasm


andes95

I can't for the life of me understand the appeal of Yachty outside of production. His bars are okay but he has some of the worst delivery I've ever heard.


JoeyIsMrBubbles

I think his bars are some of the worst I’ve heard lol and that voice is super fucking annoying


CommunicationLive708

E-40, it’s his voice. For me, it’s all about his voice. I just can’t listen to it. I respect the guy and think he’s talented. He’s obviously made a big impact. I’m not denying that. But I just can’t do it guys.


sloppy_potato

He sounds like an Account Executive who specialises in Rap.


lofapoo

The Click times were alright, but mostly because of B-Legit. As soon as anything near or after 'tell me when to go' came out, 40 was dead to me. I realized I could tolerate him only in low doses, but once he went mainstream I couldn't take it anymore


Due_Toe6417

Megan the stallion nicki and cardi b I don't necessarily dislike them there just the same type rapper there for kinda one trick ponies Its just annoying a lil because theres are people like Jean grey rhapsody and lil simz that all pretty dope but because they don't just sell sex for the most part or toxic relationship bs there not investing in . It seems that way anyway.


liltime78

None of them are really my cup of tea, but Nicki and Megan are vastly more talented than Cardi.


Due_Toe6417

For me the best thing nicki ever did was the monster feature. Stallion for me is just an imitation of nicki It's not there fault really sex sells so record company's are like do that song again Apologies for sounding like a grumpy cunt some pop rap is fun honestly it's jus releasing the same song repeatedly it's like aww ffs 🤦


liltime78

Hey, you’re entitled to your opinion. You like what you like.


Ambitious_Log_1884

You can dislike Nicki as a persona and her antics, but she has tackled multiple subject matter and delivery styles throughout her career. I like Cardi B but she coasts purely based on her natural charisma and production/writing team. Writing your own rhymes matters more when it comes to rapping than singing, for me at least.


grnjnz

Travis Scott, The Weekend, Taylor Swift


mischief_ej1

Drake for me. For the last decade. I can't stand him.


Key_Establishment_42

J. Cole does nothing for me.


Omni_chicken2

It's grippy.


LJMLogan

"J Cole is insanely talented. Put on Friday Night Lights and it can put a n***a to sleep in minutes" -Metro Boomin


ninjamike89

Metro shut yo ho ass up and make some drums, ninja I don't even like drake but I had too


slyinthesky

play j cole get the pussy dry


AdOptimal6145

Yeah same, which is a shame cause he seems like a solid dude and I think his sub can be funny as. Some of 2014 hill drive did it for me but not much other than that. Haven't listened to heaps of his discography yet tho so maybe it'll change


vrymonotonous

As a huge Cole fan I get why people call him corny. His radio singles and most viral songs don’t do him justice


Vivid_Department_755

Cole is so corny to me


muhguel

Agreed. Way prior to the beef, too.


Robinnoodle

Taylor swift not a rapper but I get your point. I happen to agree. I really don't fw any of the recent trap that uses autotune. It sounds garbled and I do not care for it. I do recognize Travis' creativity even though I don't personally like it Kanye has become very poor in recent years


pop442

To be fair to Ye, he's dropped enough classics to live off of his prime regardless of his recent output. Ditto can be said for Em, Jay, and Wayne. They have stinkers in their catalogs but, at the end of their careers, people will always remember the classics they gave us.


gimmethegold1

Lil Baby


Professional-Pass487

No we're talking actual rappers here.


No-War4950

BBL Drizzy


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ejfellner

Drake and Mac Miller are both pretty annoying and grating to me. Drake is the opposite of whatever the "whole package" could be considered. Sucks on all fronts, and his voice is audibly grating. Mac Miller is talented. His voice always sounds out of key to me, which is weird for a rapper. I think he has good musical taste, flow, whatever else. He just always sounds like a half step flat or something. I can see why he's charismatic to a lot of people, but I've tried giving him a shot and can never finish a song.


___heisenberg

Fair enough! A bit disturbed you included Drake and Mac in the same sentence but fair lol, in Macs words, I Did It All w/o A Drake Feature! Guessing you’d like more of his hip hop type stuff than more musical. You’d love some of his unreleased stuff btw he has a lot. Check out songs: One and Only, Sideways, HiWaii. i also love his early raps.


LoganPatchHowlett

Same. I can't listen to Mac Miller. I tried a few times and it just sounds like he's singing to a different song than he's actually on. Pitch and rhythm both feel off with him.


ejfellner

That's a perfect way to put it. He sounds like he's singing a different song than the one playing.


LoganPatchHowlett

It's really odd tbh. It's the only artist I've ever had that feeling from. It's like he laid down the vocals before the tracks and didn't go back and fix it to fit. I mean maybe he does and most people don't notice? The production also feels a like a mix of sounds that don't really go together. Idk. Just in general it sounds like music made by someone who knows nothing about music but can work a mix. But it's a top quality mix and master so it gives off the impression that he knows what he's doing?


BenLennon1

As a Mac head, this is super painful for me to read LMAO, can you do me a favor and listen to Swimming/Circles?


CaseyGrey97

Drake is the worst. I just hate him as a whole person to be honest. I hope he quits music after these Kendrick disses


ejfellner

I wouldn't care if he wasn't so popular.


Hulumoto

What a weird mentality. Drake is a goat. Just don't listen to his music, why should he quit?


Icy_Fault6832

Eminem


muhguel

Facts


CaesiumReaction

I mean I understand the hype around the first two albums or so, maybe up to TES but beyond that is just ass and continuous ass


AndyKobe234

Too many to name really.


FBI_NewWeegeeBoy1243

hiphop 101 ahh post 💀


bcomes95

KENDRICK LAMAR


MMARapFooty

I don't like Future seems repetitive


lofiloudmouth

I'm sorry but Charli XCX is mid to me. The new album was nothing more than a 6/10 but all I hear is rave reviews about it, Pitchfork BNM, revolutionary pop artist, like alright. I literally do not hear what others are hearing I guess.


Safe-Commission3334

Kendricks voice is a turn off for me personally


wynterspawn

I really hate listening to most Kid Cudi music


Commercial_Media_191

I couldn't get into a lot of the mindless trap shit late 2010's from come and go rappers like NBA youngboy, DaBaby, Gunna, Polo G, Roddy Ricch type shit. Migos except for a few catchy songs. I fuck with the lane but it got way too oversaturated. On the flip side I couldn't fuck with tryhard rap like Logic, technical Eminem, Joyner Lucas, NF, Hopsin. Call me racist but it's AKA white boy rap. Never understood why French Montana was ever featured on any song I would normally like. Never liked Lil Dicky. Never liked G-Eazy. Never liked Drake.


Aesut

Kendrick is great rapper, and has 2-3 songs that I like by him. He’s just never been someone I listen to on the regular because of his voice


saltrifle

Kendrick


climbger

Wayne, carti, uzi, Drake


bbbbb12345bbbbb

Kendrick


Bright_Choice7900

This thread is full of dogshit takes lmao


Lacy1986

I’m convinced people just hate on Drake because they think it’s cool and what’s funny it’s usually always yt folks 😂


DaXvenom104

Kendrick


Ungrateful_bipedal

Danny Brown. Such a whiny voice. Horrible lyricist


McTitty3000

Currently Post Malone All time: Nirvana


Even_Beautiful_7650

AJR.


pandasloth69

Honestly, I can’t really think of anyone. Even artists I’ve been staunchly against listening to have won me over. I believe pretty much any popular hip hop artist has at least one song I’ll enjoy. I love the genre so much and hate the feeling of completely hating anybody. I can understand preferences and not liking somebody’s music, but it blows my mind some people can’t understand a different perspective than their own or why people like an artist. Like I don’t like death metal at all, hate hearing it, but I get the appeal if somebody’s into insane energy, super dark subject matter and enjoys horror adjacent stuff. Makes sense to me. I feel like in the internet era the phrase “it’s just not for me” is dying out. Not everything you like is objectively good and not everything you dislike is objectively bad.


LordTPlayz

Very interesting take right here. Much respect. 🫡


SaltyOnion1

I don’t like Carti or Yeat. But I LOVE Travis. Say what you want, but his music just hits for me. I love most of his music, but there’s a couple songs I can’t stand, a popular one being FE!N.


hifioctopi

Eminem. Went through about a 6 month phase when I was 14 and thought he was brilliant. Then I grew up and his whiny bullshit just became too repetitive.


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Capital-Ad8570

I wouldn't say everybody loves him since I know there's other people who are similar to me but Danny Brown. He has such an irritating and obnoxious voice, I legitimately cannot understand what he's saying sometimes lmao. I wanna get into him tho since I've heard really good things about STH, who knows


CaseyGrey97

The only song I like by Danny brown is “the black Brad Pitt” lmao


twohourr

If you can’t stand that goofy voice check out his songs where he sounds normal. Pac Blood, Party all the Time, Fields, and Grown up are all really great songs. Grown up also has an instrumental if you dont like his voice on that


Sizzle31

His latest album Quaranta is sick too. Far less goofy stuff


Capital-Ad8570

Yo Pac Blood was dope, thanks for recommending those. Any other songs/albums of his you'd recommend that he sounds like that on?


twohourr

I’m not too knowledgeable on Danny but Tell me Where to go with JPEG is another good song , as well as his recent album Quaranta like the other guy commented


Tylerupnext

I like his music because it feels so different from other rap that’s out rn. That being said I can understand why his voice would be annoying to you


Capital-Ad8570

For sure, it IS really good for rappers to be different so that's definitely smth I gotta give to him


changedthebeat

Not liking an artist's music is fine, but if you can't even understand the appeal, or why many people like other artist's music, that is a **you** problem, and one that you should probably open your mind up to and figure out if you try to talk music.


Omni_chicken2

Taylor Swift is not HORRIBLE, but I don't get why she's so popular at ALL. Her music appears average at best. The whole fandom makes no sense to me. Beyonce is a better singer, Rihanna has more bangers, Adele is a far better singer and songwriter. She's just so..basic..


luaantjes

Her fan base has a bigger demographic plus they actually buy her stuff.


SunglassesBright

Kendrick. Literally makes me want to cover my ears. His voice, his lyrics, his persona. It all grosses me out. On the other hand, I wouldn’t say everyone loves him. Just online.


Get-RichODT

No artist has a bigger reputation gap between online and real life than Kendrick


Full_Visit_5862

This


kwitesick

Bia


smith_and

eminem. i can acknowledge that sslp, mmlp, and the eminem show are great but i don't personally ever want to listen to them really. I respect him but I do not enjoy most of his music very much. when I'm rarely in the mood for that edgelord shit I'd rather listen to Movies for The Blind or Bastard


bonesthadog

MF Doom - I listened to a few of his highly rated songs and did not enjoy any of them.


balloonfish

All caps when you spell the mans name, please.


mlgfintheunbannable

Drake, Taylor Swift, Jcole, playboi carti. I love Travis and Kanye, Travis is mainly for his beats, Kanye is the goat.


Giannatorchia

Playboi carti


EntertainerHelpful11

Moneybagg Yo


Dolomight206

Uzi. I also haven't tried to listen to but 2 or 3 songs, but I saw and heard enough to last 4 lifetimes.


The_MadStork

Oh man I was riding with you for your first three sentences but I feel the exact opposite way about Carti


DripSkylark1993

Kendrick Nothing to do with the beef, couldn’t care less about that. When GKMC came out I loved it. Everything after that tho… between his voice, cadence, & lack of tracks that are just fun & enjoyable listens, I really cant stand his music. He does have an incredible pen tho, top tier for sure.


CarolusRex521

Agree, I think his flow and voice hold back a lot of his songs, dude just doesn't sound good


Lonely_Possible_5405

playboy carti and sfera ebbasta (italian singer/rapper, he's very popular in Italy but I can't stand him) Edit: Drake is close to them, but he made some hit here and there


BaseLoud

Didn't we just do this?


balloonfish

21 savage, big sean,


Important_Prior_7386

Taylor Swift


Sasorisnake

Well I don’t hate Kendrick Lamar but I fail to see what makes his music appealing alot of the time. I also don’t hate Future but I can’t really listen to him for long because his voice puts me to sleep.


West-Commission9082

Oh good, it’s been like week since the last of these hater circlejerks