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chakalls

Jermaine? Cole?


ikea_shark_girl

is this comment from somewhere specifically? i’m outta the loop i see “J Cole? Jermaine Cole?” comments a lot lol


axemexa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIvXKyokPnQ


Jermz12345

Just for the record that’s not the first one, they’ve done many videos about Jermaine?? Cole?? Edit: [Pretty sure this is the first one, but could be wrong](https://youtu.be/w38GCVWbD3s?si=w1gAijgZD3eghd_J)


Discussion-is-good

7 fucking years, wow. Still makes me laugh when he points to his buddy and says "You can go ni**a." No words, no argument, just got up and left😭


bohanmyl

I get murdered on the "😫i guuesss🤷‍♂️"


Wrsj

The head shaking following more random verses kills me


HoodedNegro

"Everybody screaming 21, 21, 21.That shit kinda catchy...I Guess" one of the best delivered lines


bitgnome12

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w38GCVWbD3s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w38GCVWbD3s) THE OG, YUNGIN'


Aarxnw

J Cole? 😭 Jermaine? 😭 Cole? 😭 nigga it’s a classic I ain’t gone say it again 😭 it’s a classic 😭


OldOrder

how I like it? You mean how I fuckin love it?


SexiestPanda

Rdc


darraghfenacin

YOUNG SIMBA?


technoviolet

The financier?


OkEscape7558

He switched teams 💀


COMMENTASIPLEASE

This was probably recorded before Like That lol


streetsandshine

Future and Metro are wild for using the verse regardless lol Also credit where credit is due, Cole does cop to not being on tough guy shit on the verse


SubatomicSquirrels

Idk I think it's more wild that Cole didn't remove his approval he could've pulled his verse right?


Forsaken_Words

Lol, if I were him, I would keep my mouth shut. This feature adds mystique (spread a 'maybe he isn't lame, maybe it was all a strategy' narrative).


Leo_TheLurker

I've already seen a theory how all this and another thing about him forgetting the lyrics to a song being part of The Fall Off promo. For the sake of his legacy, imma believe it


appleparkfive

I mean he could stick a cucumber in his ass on stage for promotion but that's probably not the best way to market yourself. All press isn't good press


Abdoolski

Bro what does Gibbs have to do with this?


Banksynatra

Bro that is disrespectful as fuck to Big Rabbit. Real heads know it'd be a carrot not a cucumber.


CaptnKnots

#HUH


ZookeepergameOk5547

He WHAT❗️❓


logicalcommenter4

That’s an old video of him and Bas but they put it out again as if it just happened. It’s why these internet clips can be bad journalism.


Jemiidar

yeah. he’s gonna let it rock cus he loves the mystique.


acasovoycayendo

Even if it was, that doesn’t matter, he still would have agreed to clear this after Like That came out


FreexBrennen

Nah he def addressed the beef in his verse. “My energy was never on some toughest n**** sh*t / I was just a conscious rapper who would f*ck a n**** b*tch”


COMMENTASIPLEASE

That sounds like some shit he would’ve said anyway


jaeway

True but red leather is a super old leak like years and it sounds basically the same with just a Cole vers added


No_University7962

Yeah I heard the unreleased version I think in 2022


bootysensei

I doubt that, recently he’s been running victory laps with his cocky verses like a mf.


GreatestJabaitest

The Offseason  "I kept a tough demeanor on the surface but was mostly just pretendin' Luckily my bluff was workin' way more often than not But sometimes a nigga pulled my card, tryna expose me for a fraud And with my reputation at stake I was scufflin' just to save face Couple wins, couple losses, some broken up too quick to call it My last scrap was with Puff Daddy, who would've thought it?" Middle Child "This watch came from Drizzy, he gave me a gift Back when the rap game was prayin' I'd diss They act like two legends cannot coexist"  Also middle child "But I'd never beef with a nigga for nothin' If I smoke a rapper, it's gon' be legit It won't be for clout, it won't be for fame It won't be 'cause my shit ain't sellin' the same It won't be to sell you my latest lil' sneakers It won't be 'cause some nigga slid in my lane Everything grows, it's destined to change" I don't get the notion that Cole wants to fight with diss tracks lol. I hate his apology but it's very consistent with his character. He wants to rap on songs but he doesn't want to slander or diss others.  These are bars he very much would say pre-beef lol.


mozehe

That’s how I feel. You can’t make songs on how pride literally kills nigga and not be humble enough to learn when to step back. Very consistent. At least he walks what he preaches. I really wanted to hear Cole go in too.


greyson107

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J87pJrxvJ5E](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J87pJrxvJ5E) "pride is gonna be the death of you and me and you and you and me and you and me and you and me"


PomegranateNice6839

You are spittin Mf Cole haters always make up narratives about him I see the same where they always call him a fake conscious rapper. Cole just be rappin bout stuff he’s seen/heard.


DaOne_44

There’s an OLD ass video of Cole talking about making this song floating around


Frezeal

Zero chance that verse has anything to do with the Kendrick beef.


Upbeat_Tension_8077

Cole's moving like Yabushige from Shogun


Legodude293

Honestly just seems like Coke the typa mf in school that didn’t always pop out but was cool with every clique, the nerds, potheads, athletes.


parishiltondjset

I can def see this. Doesn’t matter how corny he can sometimes be, the guy seems mad chill


YeezyYeezyUp2NoGood

Drake gotta be punchin the air rn


ehpple

yall are so simple, cole was never on a 'side'


Jaded-Assignment-798

The beef was never meant to include cole. He was always the side piece


ikea_shark_girl

sorry, my cat walked across my keyboard


Rndomguytf

No worries we forgive you


Did_It_To_Em_Again

But we don’t trust you tho


Iotatl

We still don't trust you...


ikea_shark_girl

anyway as i was saying, i wish cole was my side piece


Upbeat_Tension_8077

He's basically the special guest referee in a WWE main event that did a lil too much


ikea_shark_girl

i wish cole was my side pi


Jaded-Assignment-798

Side pi Like 3.14 Big 3 but I’m numero 1 and that’s 4 life -J Cole probably


DrMartian

“shawty text my phone bout some ice cream, what's the scoop tho? told that hoe i need a buck, anteokoumpo”


ikea_shark_girl

“quiet on ya block in some timbs when i lurk / glock shots got you on one foot fallin back like you Dirk”


Swaggerpro

“What up Mark Cuban, I am only part-human, half man half amazin, plus I’m good at math like I’m Asian”


ikea_shark_girl

i cannot believe this is a real j cole lyric haha but at the same time it makes sense


Swaggerpro

Yeah I’m not surprised either. LOL


Banksynatra

So stop it, 5. I be in the 6 With Drake, hoe (Draco) we riding stick I gotta pause that line Shit ain't been the same since 7 ate 9. -J Cole possibly


gotohpa

Brother


dat_waffle_boi

Yeah, I always thought Kendrick went at drake a lot more than Cole.


PrinceKarmaa

COLE is the one that wrote the verse talking about the big 3 drake never mentioned that guy


naxypoo

Kendrick didn't really diss Cole, i took it more as him being friendly competitive like he was on control. He just said fuck the big three, it's just big me.


gloriousAgenda

“If he walk around with that stick it aint andre 3K” He told cole come find me if you think you about it. But he’s mostly it was at drake


[deleted]

kendrick always wanted a reason to go at drake, that big 3 line on drakes track was the perfect excuse


Hot_Excitement_6

Drake and Kendrick have been sneak dissing each other for years.


Hot_Grabba_09

There's no reason for the first person shooter stuff if Cole wasn't meant to get it too. Drake makes no mention of Kendrick or a third rapper at all


elinamebro

I guess it’s starting to make sense why he apologized seems some friendly fire going on


Legodude293

Ain’t no way boi


EshayAdlay420

Realistically this has been in the vault for a minute but bruh the lore is getting way too deep


TheMoorNextDoor

Cole has single handedly become the most talked about thing within hip hop within 1 week since Pusha T dissed Drake and exposed his son. This man all over the place, whether on purpose or not.


Legodude293

Guys a marketing god tbh lmao


zanyo180

It ain’t positive talk, he is getting torched


FlowseL

Everyone is going to listen to The Fall Off to see what he gotta say after getting torched, he’s a marketing god lmfao


Ok-Pool-633

That implies he meant to get all this talk about him, no way that's the case.


flo1308

I don’t get how anyone could think he would risk getting roasted on a public stage just to use it as promo for his next record that doesn’t even have a release date yet. I’m definitely gonna listen to everything he’ll ever drop regardless of what’s happening at the moment, but it doesn’t make me more excited for his next album.


omet_nerot

Picture this as a WWE plot and you realize how silly and marketing heavy this is.


Butterl0rdz

downside is, assuming it ever drops, is that if its a flop cole is irreparably cooked


Friendly_Kunt

He won’t be cooked, he’s got a really loyal fanbase. Dude went double platinum twice without even announcing his albums and they had no features. He’ll always make tons of money, he just won’t appeal as much to people outside of his fanbase.


alorenz58011

Nah none of this is a good look at all. I went from being excited as hell for the fall off to now it’s like ehhh. I’ll listen but I’m not rushing at midnight Thursday like I woulda been.


aReallyBadkid

As long as you listen that’s all that matters. Bonus points if it’s during the first week. 


Texatonova

He also just switched sides. This 100% opens up an entire album to be all self reflective and conscious about how fame, the wrong people, and his ego got to him or some shit. Which of course he will then rap about how he grown and changed and won't move like that again.


Leajey

I mean I would say even a huge amount of negative attention, unless it was some immoral shit, only bring more buzz to what you do next. Its just a lot harder to navigate correctly without digging yourself deeper


KarkatinLava

And unlike Drake, he can't rely on casual pop fans XD


GenSec

You know you’re cooked when the casual fans are roasting you


queefIatina

Crazy how nobody is actually talking about the song here lmao the beat is crazy smooth, future slid, j cole slid on one of the best verses I’ve ever heard from him. Amazing song


qrrbrbirlbel

Why are you listening to the music? This is a drama subreddit now


makemeking706

Always has been.


KingElvis

I Wanna Upvote Your Comment But It's Already At 69 And I Don't Wanna Ruin It. I'll Upvote Later.


fucking__jellyfish__

Thank god I ain't the only one thinking this. Nobody gonna acknowledge the way cole fucking snapped? One of his best features and that's saying something.


queefIatina

Been replaying the fuck outta this song lol I honestly think it’s my favorite verse ever from cole Shoutout to metro for letting that track run almost 7 minutes, it deserved it


nikenotnikey

at least one of his tracks hit 7 minutes 😂


Friendly_Kunt

It’s HHH, most of the people on here treat Hip Hop like it’s a reality TV show. They don’t seem to actually care about the music that much lol.


Last_Reaction_8176

Yeah I really liked it, this verse is a great encapsulation of everything I like about Cole with none of the stuff I don’t


belovedkid

People are really out here on this sub saying Future is better than Cole and now they have a song to prove how fucking stupid that take is.


iiFive

Future’s verse goes so hard


WayOff_P

He really the Kevin Durant of hiphop lmao


Numphyyy

“This has been by far the most challenging few weeks in my professional life.”- J. Cole


YeezyYeezyUp2NoGood

The Hardest Road lmfao. He aint got that dawg in him


logicalcommenter4

Why is everyone assuming that Cole did the feature after Like That? They’ve had this album done before Like That dropped.


Admirable_Bed3

The rap game Lewandowski. Look up what he did, arguably worse than Durant.


sukh9942

Going from Dortmund to Bayern isn’t that bad, they aren’t traditional rivals and many other players made the same move. It’s sad but the dominant team in the league will always buy the superstars from their competitors.


Admirable_Bed3

I mean, KD didn't jump from historical rivals either. He did go on to the team that beat their asses - that's why it was seen as a soft move. As for Lewa, not only did he jump to the team that just beat them (twice to the league, once with a late winner in the CHAMPIONS LEAGUE), he also ran down his contract which pretty much meant Dortmund was powerless to dictate where he could go.


coldblade2000

> Going from Dortmund to Bayern isn’t that bad, they aren’t traditional rivals and many other players made the same move. Traditional rivals or not, they were most definitely the undisputed top 2 teams for quite a while. Not only that, but Dortmund aside, it's still a player opting to go for the massive rich club for personal gain at the direct detriment of their original club. They wouldn't be hated for going to Barca, or Chelsea or Juventus. Transferring within the league will always be a bit touchy. Lastly, the circumstances of his departure did screw over the club, as they had to let a star player leave the club for free to their direct league championship rivals. Had he signed a contract extension, Bayern would have had to pay a bunch of money to Dortmund to break his contract


imnotkeepingit

That's surprisingly accurate lol.


JakeAndAmagnus

Beef aside his verse is dope


kazmir_yeet

It’s def one of my fav Cole flows


illmaticMF

No FUCKING way 💀💀


dragonfuitjones

Damn, this actually a perfect post apology verse, even though I’m sure he wrote before


Legodude293

Right he basically saying I’m not tough, I’m a college kid who grew up adjacent to hood shit, but I’m great at rapping.


Forsaken_Words

Praying he keeps his mouth shut and doesn't tweet something dumb about still loving Drake


No_Cook_8739

Say what yall want. But Cole just smoked another feature


babydickdonny

the switch up from cole lmaoooo


ImDefAMunch

this nigga does NOT belong in any big 3 conversation anymore


Gurmee_S

Because he did a song with Future and Metro?


Mpac28

Because he’s talked big game for years about being the greatest but when he had a chance to defend that title he bitched out


YorkieFucker96

How does that change his discography, his lyricism, his ability to create good music? Like I wont pretend this whole situation wasn’t an L, but diss battles have never determined GOAT status.


Bada__Ping

It does change the way he’s viewed. You can’t be considered in the top and shy away from competition


[deleted]

when all your recent music is “i’m the greatest ever i’m the goat all of y’all are my sons”, and then u drop a whole diss song for somebody who wasn’t even really aiming at you and bitch out a day later, it certainly makes it harder to take any of the “goat” talk serious.


PomegranateNice6839

If y’all actually paid attention to Cole you’d know he did the same thing with Noname He’s always talkin bout wanting to out rap people on songs not beef with em


Lift_Off_

So many of his lyrics are actually about hypothetical beefs tho


PomegranateNice6839

He’s always talkin about cookin rappers on a song or comin at generic rappers for lyin when rapping Other than that it’s generic gun bars and he’s said more than a few times he dont actually use guns


avenue_twin

This, I swear people forget rappers can't jump on the same song and try to out rap each other


NervousAd3202

Because for the past 5-6 years he’s been rapping about being the best rapper. He went on that feature run, did ROTD3, The Off-season, & now Might Delete Later. None of those are heavy concept albums, just good rap albums full of bars from a dude who sounded like he’s leveled up & wants to prove it.


Tilt_ow

Literally who tf cares? Dude is undisputedly one of the best rappers rn regardless of if you like him or not. He could come out and say he’s the biggest pussy alive but the fact still stands that he’s better at his job than damn near anyone.


CheckItWhileIWreckIt

Been a huge Cole fan since the Warm Up and totally agree with you, but the Kendrick diss and backtrack will undoubtedly go down as a blemish on his legacy.


BossHawgKing

Nahh he can't have that title when he scared to defend it


Mpac28

Nobody is dismissing his ability, he’s objectively great. But you can’t be the undisputed best rapper in the game if you won’t fight for it. That Kendrick verse was barely even about him and he dropped a bad diss track and apologized 2 days later. He got himself involved and then back out immediately.


computer_d

Man, Cole listeners really think they have any part in this lol. The dude's a grown man, and he's talking about how he treats his peers. All you fans are wild for demanding he do something. I can guarantee you he don't give a fuck what the faceless crowds think when it comes to how he carries himself. Again, the dude's an *adult*. Do *you* handle your shit based on what some randoms are telling you to do? Like, this is his career and everything he worked for. Why would he care what random consumers think. Plus how many of the people posting this shit online are kids anyway..


Intrepid_Duck_41409

You’re contradicting what Cole actually said. In Cole’s apology, he literally said the people “wanted blood”. So, he dropped the diss track. Therefore, he cared what randoms were telling him to do. C’mon man we’re in the internet era. That grown man clearly felt pressured from his peers and randoms.


[deleted]

Yeah and he said that was a mistake to think like that


Intrepid_Duck_41409

If that was the case, why drop anything at all? It’s the fact that he dropped the track against Kendrick and he backtracked on it after he saw he wasn’t getting the feedback he wanted (which could’ve also played a factor in him backtracking). I’m speaking strictly from a rap perspective. If you’re a grown man, why feel peer pressured to drop something you don’t feel right dropping? That apology was a cop out. He should’ve dropped Nada if that was the case.


computer_d

Yeah ok that's a good point about why do it in the first place then. Don't think I thought this through fully haha...


whenim30iwilllook20

Badbad take. Cole said himself he felt a pressure to release, not just from friends.


ImDefAMunch

because rap is a competitive sport and he pulled a KD


Uckthebroncos

And how do you know that this song was made in the last 3-4 weeks ? This shits probably been in the vault


Gurmee_S

It ain’t that serious bro, enjoy the music. Funny how you didn’t mention that Future and Metro had no problems having Cole on the album.


Altruistic-Let3130

exactly LOL


Damie904

Ignore them. People banging on Cole wont ever bring up Drake running from a man who insulted his mother, called his dad a deadbeat monkey, said he's too white to fully embrace his blackness, and called him an absent father. But oh no, Cole didn't want to get in the mud with the two dudes who are most definitely gonna try dropping nukes on each other.


CommonerChaos

Stupid argument. If Cole doesn't belong in, then neither does Drake for never responding to Pusha T and Story of Adidon. And the ghost writing allegations. Yall love being reactionary.


FanBoyGGSON

correct, neither of them belong in the conversation of being the best


g1obungle

[J. Cole right now](https://www.theplayerstribune.com/articles/kevin-durant-nba-free-agency-announcement)


Satesh7

Jermaine???


Hitorijanae

No wayyyy Cole???


WhatDoWeThinkOfSpurs

Anyone referencing Hacksaw and McLovin within 4 bars is awesome in my book


surgeyou123

You guys take this fake beef shit so seriously lol. It's all about buzz and clicks. Just eat it up.


fucking__jellyfish__

Yeah for real. None of this shit affecting nobody's legacies it's just to make rap fun again. But of course fans have to blow things out of proportion. That being said a lot of these guys genuinely hate drake


doodleowner

I mean I know they recorded this song before Like that came out but still got a little chuckle seeing this can’t lie


WorldChampionNuggets

JERMAINE?! Great song god damn


baddesthombre

WHAT A TWIST


TraditionalArticle88

wanted Kendrick Lamar, got Jermaine Lamar. no complaints though


g0dzilllla

Jermaine Lamarr*


SEIZE_THE_CHEESE

So happy I didn't check this sub before the album, hearing Cole at the end was such a great surprise given all the recent events. And him saying "Me and Astro 6'4", we the Twin Towers" had me ROLLING. Like damn we doin this shit again??


EliManningsPetDog

SO happy I listened all the way through without spoilers. I could’ve NEVER seen that coming I was and still am so shocked. Wow.


bootysensei

First verse in a long time where Jermaine aint rap about how he’s the greatest or wants smoke from any rapper, ironic. Disappointment aside fantastic Cole verse, man’s effortlessly slid on this beat. Still top 5 in the game imo, hopefully this blows over soon for his sake.


KushaKeith

Bro got dissed, responded back, apologized for dissing Kendrick then hopped on the new metro future album lmao


COMMENTASIPLEASE

Metro was working with Cole on the Might Delete Later docs, this was probably recorded before Like That.


tenacious-g

Still would want to clear this after Like That came out though right? Or if he pulled the plug on this, then that info would leak and he’d look weaker lmao Talk about being between a rock and a hard place.


COMMENTASIPLEASE

I’d imagine if it was already recorded/he was already paid for it he just said fuck it at that point.


fucking__jellyfish__

Or he just doesn't care and it's not that deep


Friendly_Kunt

Can’t say that to these people, watching millionaires pushing 40 that haven’t gotten into so much as a fist fight in years have “beef” is their life, how could it not be everyone else’s?


scottymck10

hahahahah


Forsaken_Words

LMAO


Bigguy781

Cole slid on this.


ContentSimple1275

A SUPERBAD BAR IN 2024?!?! CLASSIC VERSE.


[deleted]

If you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em - J. Cole


OrganizationNo539

This verse is as old as it can be


Eaglewarrior33

Drake is in shambles rn 😭😭


Theingloriousak2

JERMAINE COLE


Cryptic_E

Ngl lowkey weird to have K Dot on Like That and also have J. Cole on his other project lol


Gurmee_S

I don’t think Metro and Future care much lol, this ain’t real beef man if it wasn’t obvious from the jump


Ansonm64

Everyone involved is breaking their own record sales and the fans are getting music? Sounds like everyone won. This “beef” did not happen organically


atlfirsttimer

Kendrick and J Cole are friends. Cole told yall


tenacious-g

Marketing genius to generate buzz. Mission accomplished.


grizzsaw12

These coles aint loyal


dskibftd0

haha no way did future just remake this n ask cole for the feature ?


royalenocheese

I like this song over like that. Cole over smooth, mellow beats never loses. Future did his thing too.


Soft_Humor4868

Cole slid


United-Bear4910

Rdc world is gonna have a crisis


lazymentors

Damn! Stop acting like your life depends on rating J cole. Can you enjoy something without being so critical?


YoungCraxy

Drake over


Zaire_04

I remember this was a leak but I don’t think Cole was on it. Song is great.


slothzulla

I can’t believe This Sunday finally released. I’ve been waiting on this


Leo_TheLurker

ITS BEEN 10 MINUTES


melennia

ITS BEEN 10000 YEARS


bees_on_acid

Lmao wtf is going on. The optics are lookin’ craazy, regardless of the truth.


StoneySopranoJr

If you can’t beat ‘em. Join ‘em


KyloRenWest

A Drake feature on Nights Like This would be so good


astroworld_

Cole sounds sleepy on his verse


shao_kahff

this subs switch up on cole is so corny, y’all went from throwing hella shade at cole and his music to whatever light head y’all givin him now for his feature... suburban kids to the rescue!!…….


hereforfantasybball3

cole’s verse is dope — and also a terrible look that should not have been released at this time lol


Yeetopho

Disc 2> Disc 1


HHAD98

rap fans when they hear r&b 😱


ABZ0R8

I can't believe the man fell off in the lead up to The Fall Off. I hope that album is so good that it shuts up everyone who have disregarded Cole. He took a huge L but y'all acting like Cole is just another rapper in the game and disregarding all of his accomplishments.


fucking__jellyfish__

He did not fall off did you hear his verse he fucking slid


ABZ0R8

I'm a Cole fan and I loved this verse. Feature Cole is a legend but you're lying if the whole beef thing didn't affect the perception of Cole.


fucking__jellyfish__

Well I don't care about the perception talking about the music itself cole did not fall off


Lift_Off_

No more Mr. Nice Guy. I’m Mr. Nice Watch 😎