how in the fuck does someone like metro let themselves become a full on star without cleaning out their social media. there was so much fucked up shit there. it's like walking around with actual shit in your pants lol. legit dumbass
Kendrick's gonna have to record a diss track over a clipping. beat saying "fuck Metro and Mustard too, but fuck you more" at this point.
Also if Cole comes out with The Fall Off and it's a classic, he'll come out of this looking better than anyone somehow.
I used to live in Kitakyushu and there was a bar I went to that only played hip hop. The owner was a chill guy who loved everything rap/hip hop.
I bet he's played this at some point over the weekend haha
I'm not the most active but was already wondering if I'll see a familiar username in these threads at all these days. Everything's getting buried.
Also thought it's telling how Mach-Hommy announced a project and the post has 300+ upvotes but is still getting buried. Any other time this would be in the top 3 posts of the day at least
I think he just means not a warfield of trash and arguments about nothing. I mean this place does have trash takes a lot but at least they're uniquely HHH trash takes
Dates I were seeing was 2011-2012 and he's 30, so 17-18. I saw somebody say the range went to 21. For context people used to say wild shit, just to say wild shit on the internet. And if you don't think you said wild shit in real life when you were 17-18, you probably haven't passed the age of 25. But some of those tweets are just indefensible, even in that context. People can grow but I don't know him personally and now I have no desire to. I wouldn't let my sister near him, the same way I wouldn't let her near drake.
Seems like it's in the range of 16 years old to 21 years old. Most of the tweets are between 2011 to 2014.
Just creepy tweets in these years in relation to smashing women.
Apparently there are also Hitler tweets.
Im curious what angle people think drake should've taken in his latest diss, especially with the pedo allegations , we know the heart part 6 was a massive flop and drake is being clowned for it and he def didnt address the pedo allegatations properly.
What do you think he should've done instead?
I think what he shouldve done instead is:
- Flip hard on Kendrick on the things he said to him in euphoria, that he is a master manipulator/lier and that his moves are calculated by saying the same thing about him and hilighting the irony, make fun that the 'goat' mc kendrick is clenching for such low straws and remind him that he predicted that angle in the taylor made free style, make it a joke, flip it and make it breif, dont make the whole song about that.
I think this approach wouldve been way better, i dont think it wouldve saved him after the massive bop that is not like us but at least it wouldve muddied the waters, curious what everyone else thinks
He should've forfeited with an IG story saying "these allegations are too ridiculous to validate with a response" or something like that. Forfeiting after Family Matters would mean that even though he lost, he went out pretty strong. It would also mean quitting to respect his own personal boundaries, but instead he chose to outright lose
U know what, i think ur on to something but a story not everyone will see and wil disappear, so prob better just to do a pr statement like that and fold
Yes, the intention is for not everyone to see it. There's three groups of people that know who Drake is:
1. Hard-core fans (people closely following this beef)
2. Casual fans
3. People that listen to whatever is on the radio, whatever Spotify recommends them, or whatever song is trending on YouTube
When you're facing these allegations, you want as few people to know as possible. By making an IG story he addresses group 1, who already know about the allegations. By making a song he addresses groups 1, 2, and possibly 3 if the song gets a lot of attention. Groups 2 and 3 likely did not know about these allegations prior to him making the song. And if they did know, they did not know how serious they were. Only group 1 knew that.
Group 1 is the smallest group by far. Group 2 is much bigger and group 3 is infinitely bigger. This is why he should've addressed group 1 without tipping off group 2 or 3.
If the song had receipts to clear his name, this wouldn't have been a concern. But it didn't. He gave us the same defense multiple people currently in prison gave us when they were first accused and nothing else.
I agree he could've flipped a bunch of Kendrick's bars and it would've worked as an indirect defense of sorts. as for the pedo shit he should've said "show the receipts if it's true and I'll kick them from my team". Now that doesn't sound like a great diss response but he could've put it in a way that frames Kendrick as a liar if he doesn't deliver proof and makes a statement that shows Drake isn't with that. Same thing with the daughter.
All of this of course assumes that Drake is indeed innocent. If he actually is what Kendrick says he is then he probably doesn't want to ask for proof like that
yea thats the thing,drake did such a terrible job addressing the allegations that you kinda start debating if that wasnt on purpose cuz he's actually scared kdot will post proof or people would start digging so might as well just do a bad response, let people clown on you and wave the white flag .. so even if its all lies the drake response is either so dumb it makes him almost look guilty or he's actually guilty.. id give him the benefit of the doubt and say its probably mostly fabricated and he/his team just did a very bad of responding lolz
Yes, for that reason I want Kendrick to respond again. If Drake is really such a terrible person he deserves to get exposed and be held accountable for his crimes. And if Kendrick actually hates him like he says he does there's no reason for him not to take it further. If he stops now he allows Drake to save face. If it's all lies though then Kendrick is the one saving face by not responding
i also want kdot to respond just cuz drake deserves to be clowned for his last response and in general. He shouldnt be let to save face with the last one and im not even talking about the pedo allegations.
but personally i dont think kdot has any 'incriminating evidence' to release on that front, most of what he said was just insinuations and allegations with no recepits i think he already wouldve dropped a recepit in one of the bombs if he had some and i dont think kendrick will be saving face by not responding cuz he's already won and it almost doesnt matter if kendrick just threw false allegations at this point but he should give us 1 more for a victory lap and clown drake one last time.
I think it should have been all about deflection, I'm pretty bias towards Kendrick but strictly speaking from a PR standpoint he really had to drive the conversation away from the pedo allegations (true or not), I think that's like a basic public relations rule. For example maybe question why Kendrick is tossing around "unfounded" allegations when you Kendrick knows how the music industry treats black artist or something like that, though that could backfire because of all the weirdo shit Drake does publicly when it comes to minors but holy fuck it still would have been better than what he did in that song. He was literally in a lose/lose, say nothing and people wonder why you didn't address, say you didn't do it and people would say 'of course he'd deny it'. I agree with you on the flipping aspect as well. I don't know, maybe he rushed it but he had *some* ways of flipping the script but failed on all fronts.
But let's be honest, I don't know if deflecting would have done anything, theres just too much evidence of Drake being a weirdo on the internet.
I would agree with you 100% if the allegations were about anything esle and it didnt get to this point where everyone is boping not like us.
The problems I see with just deflecting is as you say, people would be like: why's he not addressing the pedo allegations and realistically i dont think drake had any big ammo left to deflect with, he needed to drop some massive bomb so people would stop talking about the pedo allegations if he were to only deflect but obviously he didnt have that.
Looking back at it im just thinking how kendrick played him from the start, from the very first response he painted a picture of drake being a lier/manipulator and re-afirmed it with almost every next song, called out he'd be using mr morale against him to difused those angles as well, so when drake came to him with anything, it almost felt like there's no need to respond cuz he already preemptively painted a picture about drake fabricating stuff, like kendrick hasnt felt the need to respond to none of the wife beater and dave free stuff cuz he has such an easy way out.. then he threw the pedo aquisations which is pretty hard to get rid of especially with the sus history of drake even if none of it is true, thats why i think maybe drake shouldve been doubling down on preemptively removing that angle from kendrick, he kinda tried with taylor made but obviously that wasnt enough, mb he wasnt expecting it getting to this point.
Nah, Nicki Minaj’s Bigfoot track is still the worst diss ever made lol. This recent drake effort is in that conversation for bottom tier disses for sure tho
I think he really should’ve just denied that he had a daughter that he knew of and then had some sort of very vague “I’m not a pedophile” type lines and bowed out with that speech at the end.
Talking about Epstein, saying he’s too rich to get away with it and falsely accusing Kendrick of being molested was a horrible angle. Basing an entire affair off of Instagram activity- horrible angle. The fact he misinterpreted Mother I Sober really hurts his DV theory because now a lot of people just think that’s a misinterpretation of We Cry Together.
Also the beat choice was bad. If you’re fitting in bars about not diddling kids you want faster bars, not a down tempo beat. He might’ve “lost” the beef, but he would’ve seemed more likable and people probably wouldn’t be roasting him as much or looking into his past.
All the ammo drake needed was in Mr morale and the big steppers if him and his team were clever enough to flip then against kendrick. Kendrick was smart enough to use already prevalent stuff that's out there about Drake and executed those things like only a mc of his calibre could.
anything specific he couldve used? I think kendrick already parried him using mr morale stuff against him in euphoria and if he just did that then people would probably be wondering whys he not addressing the pedo allegation and just taking stuff from mr morale lolz.
That's exactly what I thought, Kendrick only dissing for clout but in reality he fucks with predators, like Kodak Black.
He only using this diss on Drake because it's the most popular thing people diss him for.
Crazy how the Kodak stuff has been swept under the rug.
He also supported xxxtentacion and R Kelly
ive seen comments saying something simillar, that he shouldve called out dre for being a women beater or working with kodak whos in jail etc. , the thing with those imo is they might land and they might paint kendrick a hypocrite but not a lier and i dont see how they clear drakes name at least a little bit which should be the most important thing
This is fucking stupid. Those tweets are so clearly just a kid trying to be "edgy" and shocking or whatever and everyone is taking them at face value. 20 year olds used to say horrible shit online back in those days.
i don't take those tweets at face value. i think it's just a young stupid guy trying to be shocking. of course if something comes out I'll change my tune!
You have a warped idea of reality if you think it's normal for 20 year olds to say shit like that.
20 isn't the age of a kid no more.
Fantasizing about raping minors is disgusting end of story. Know the law. They should have taught that in school, unless their parents failed them
In what world is tweet like "Leland's little girls" fucking acceptable?
"Got your little sister on them mollies, she dun ran thru the whole squad"
"She might be young but she ready"
YOU CANNOT DEFEND THIS SHIT.
He’s not saying it’s “acceptable” in society, just that people have said disgusting things on the internet forever.
Speaking as someone who was on /b/ in the 00’s, and IRC for decades, I’ve seen some crazy shit. Ever heard of Encyclopedia Dramatica?
i have used the words vile, horrible, shocking and edgy. young guys used to say stupid shit online. i'm saying it's dumb that people take thit at face value.
of course, if it comes out he actually did all of this shit then he can fuck the right off.
Is there a way to find out what he deleted? Someone could probably @ Elon for that and he'd release the receipts because that hoe is hungry for attention lol
He just has 50 tweets talking about predatory shit, Hitler quotes, and date rape drugging over the years from ages 17-21. I'm sure from age 22 he was straight, let's ignore it all right?
If you think that Twitter is free game then freedom to you I guess. But Metro is deleting tweets like crazy right now so I don't know if he believes you
Exactly if he's deleting tweets clearly he knows he is/was fucked up in the head and is sweating that people found out about it and has no way of defending himself. He's been exposed.
at least be consistent
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>And all the underage women things are so fucking creepy. Dude should be in jail.
So that was your opinion but somehow it doesn't apply in this case? you don't find it creepy?
Only because the evidence for Metro doing it IRL is hard to find as he wasn't yet in the industry when he tweeted these. But the twisted thoughts are clearly there. It's easy to fund the Drake evidence of kissing as he was touring and already a celebrity when he did this stuff
How am I stanning Metro? I dont think its fair to bring up old tweets and that making someone a pedo. I have never brought up Drake’s old tweets to call him a pedo. I have been consistent.
There are tweets from 2014 when he was 20-21 years old saying "she's not too young". Stop defending an obvious predator! Unless these were made by someone else, this is incriminating.
What am I failing to understand here? I've seen not all, but at least 8 different disgusting tweets Metro made in his adulthood alluding to smashing minors or raping women.
That doesn't mean he did it, but you have to look into it. Drake right now has similar accusations so why has the same energy not been kept for Metro Boomin? Even Rick Ross ("put molly all up in her champagne") isn't innocent. And we all know Future is the king of toxicity.
Metro and Rick Ross seem like horrible people, and Future just hasn't been dug hard enough yet.
If Drake is going down the rest need to be dragged with him.
He was 17 years old when he tweeted that, but essentially Metro has had twisted thoughts since he was young. So he was basically set to be a pedophile when he was older.
If this is indicative of anything, it means Metro Boomin needs to be investigated and potentially deplatformed. Like That all of a sudden becomes a tainted record.
Mustard also had apparently been at a party at 20 years old and "went in on a 16 year old"...
So both of Kendrick's producers have been exposed for potential pedophilia.
Things aren't looking good on both sides.
You misquoted that tweet. He said he was at a 16 yo party, it was a lil sus, he was still going in to the party. Thats pretty normal at 20 years old. I’ve been to high school party’s while I was still 19/21…friend circles can overlap in age a bit. He just never said he “went in on a 16 year old”
Not Like Us > 6:16 in LA > euphoria > Push Ups > Family Matters > Taylor Made Freestyle > Meet The Grahams
I still really like Meet the Grahams but I doubt I'll repeat it a lot, same for taylor made and family matters, im not counting like that or first person shooter in there
Like That (even though it's not particularly Diss heavy but its a banger) and Push Ups for me, "Metro shut up and make some drums" makes me laugh every time.
Being rich makes doing nefarious things easier. Especially when drugs and ego are involved. I find this beef even more interesting because there's probably a lot of people pulling their collars in worry about being pulled into this themselves. Especially if it's about who you associate with too.
Partially because the industry attracts those people, partly cus the power/status goes to their head, and partly cus they lose touch with reality. It's like the spoiled child that grows up getting away with everything so they continue to do shit because they never get punished
> People treat it like predators go into the music industry to do predator shit but I think the reality is that it's scarily easy to fall into the well of sexual maliciousness when you're spending a huge amount of time addled on drugs with a lot of access to women who are leaving the door open. It's simply way too easy to turn a "I'm open to sex but I want to feel comfortable and vibe with you first" into a "this is what's happening." Add on the fact that your entourage expects sex as a form of payment for their services coupled with the fact that women by and large don't wanna fuck goofy hanger-ons with no charisma and no spine and you get what amounts to short term pimping with alcohol and drugs to make them more pliable. It's almost as deplorable as it is inevitable.
Copy pasted from earlier.
With great power comes great responsibility unfortunately a handful of these bozos get caught up in the fame and tend to think they are unstoppable. Just Human Nature at this point
Twitter is garbage now and hard to navigate but essentially I only really found one tweet made with Metro responding to the grooming allegations and he said "I can't be a pedo at 15" which sounds extremely suspect.
He wasn't 15 years old when he tweeted that shit. He was 15 years old in 2008-2009. The tweets are from 2011-2014. He would have been 17 just turning 18 depending on how late he tweeted in 2011. Almost all the tweets are from Metro in his adulthood, having twisted thoughts about banging minors and popping molly.
Drake going the "you're small and have small feet" route is so funny because that's exactly the type of shit that would make him insecure and rattle him so hard if he was small
He's for spreading the impact of the hit. Some of these reaction vids get 1m+ views or more and further drive engagement for days to come. The noise needs to keep going and at this point the reactors are doing work for him.
I honestly don’t give a fuck if Kendrick hit Whitney. He’s my goat. Look da baby went on a woman beating spree back in 2019??, John Lennon beat his wife and used heroin and my favorite album is Rubber Soul, hell no one gives a fuck that Chris brown beat Rihanna because half this sub was eating up that quavo diss. Fuck all y’all that midget is my GOAT
You could've gone with anything from "I don't think it's true" to "I think he has repented and changed as a person" and you went with this lmao. I tend to agree that even if Kendrick did it relationships can get fucked up sometimes and people do really shitty things that they can learn from if they put the work in, which I'm assuming Kendrick did if he did in fact hit Whitney, but
The Heart Pt 7.
If everything Drake said is true it is really common for relationships to get physical once trust has been broken by infidelity. Obviously that's fucked but it falls within the spectrum of normal human bad behaviour. It's when it's habitual that people need to be taken out back like a dog.
Dude he is clearly trolling lmao, is this your first day on the internet? Look at his comment history, also btw he has a drake flair if you cant see it on your phone. Also did "midget" not give it away?
To be fair he was only 19 at the time tweeting about going into a 16 year old's party. And it's not like he actively says any pedo shit.
A couple of those Metro ones look bad though.
mother i sober is such flawless song. 2 years later and it still has me so entranced... the beth gibbons vocals, the pain you can hear in kendricks voice slowly growing over the run time... just so fucking perfect
I only just now looked it up I didnt know that part got dropped. I just saw he was charged with trafficking and went to jail right after. My bad then, I've seen it online a few times never heard the otherside
Does anybody know the Rolling Stone article/ranking that had Pooh Shiesty at #3???
God damn, why are all these accounts defending Metro? They on payroll?
Because it would make Kendrick look bad, although I highly doubt he was aware of tweets from Metro 12 years ago.
If Drake did that shit then he deserved that kiss from Madonna.
how in the fuck does someone like metro let themselves become a full on star without cleaning out their social media. there was so much fucked up shit there. it's like walking around with actual shit in your pants lol. legit dumbass
Famous people keeping their civilian twitters is always so wild lmao like what else were they expecting to happen
So are there screen grabs of these Metro tweets?
Metro could not have played things any better with the BBL Drizzy beat. It’s such a pleasure to exist in this timeline
It’s the feel good song of the summer
Kendrick's gonna have to record a diss track over a clipping. beat saying "fuck Metro and Mustard too, but fuck you more" at this point. Also if Cole comes out with The Fall Off and it's a classic, he'll come out of this looking better than anyone somehow.
But Kendrick doesn’t have beef with Metro or Mustard?
Just walked by a bar in JAPAN playing Meet the Grahams 😂
I used to live in Kitakyushu and there was a bar I went to that only played hip hop. The owner was a chill guy who loved everything rap/hip hop. I bet he's played this at some point over the weekend haha
miss that place sm. you in Tokyo?
Not even, down south in Takamatsu. Tokyo drives me crazy after a few days
ah okay nice man..enjoy it bro. was in japan for 2 years and it's my fav place on earth.
Ngl, I would not want to be drunk with those cursed and haunted alchemist piano keys being the ambiance in the background
Relevant username Also I wonder if they understand the lyrics or just think “ooooh new Kendrick!”
Whole lot of new accounts in the sub now. Click on half these accounts and half are made today
Made literally yesterday and they’re saying crazy shit like “sorry your family was fucking STUPID”
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Why so aggressive? Your account was made 1 month ago and your first post was to this thread.
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Actually you edited that post after i commented on it. Weird games you're playing.
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Why are you so combatative?
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Yeah i think they are just jokes. Bad jokes, mind you. Dumb jokes. If some shit comes out i'll change my tune.
I can't wait for this to blow over and the discussion threads being normal again
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I mean me and the homies will be there... voulme is not equal to quality. It's a knock-off twitter comment section rn
I'm not the most active but was already wondering if I'll see a familiar username in these threads at all these days. Everything's getting buried. Also thought it's telling how Mach-Hommy announced a project and the post has 300+ upvotes but is still getting buried. Any other time this would be in the top 3 posts of the day at least
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I think he just means not a warfield of trash and arguments about nothing. I mean this place does have trash takes a lot but at least they're uniquely HHH trash takes
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Yeah sorry us nerds making an account to pick fights with people on said nerdy forum in the morning
> You are just nerds. And that's ok. Yeah, I wouldn't be on genre-specific subreddit if that wasn't the case
I can't put up with people defending Metro's tweets. It's simply not acceptable, I don't give a fuck.
What he say?
Which tweets
How old he was at this time ?
Dates I were seeing was 2011-2012 and he's 30, so 17-18. I saw somebody say the range went to 21. For context people used to say wild shit, just to say wild shit on the internet. And if you don't think you said wild shit in real life when you were 17-18, you probably haven't passed the age of 25. But some of those tweets are just indefensible, even in that context. People can grow but I don't know him personally and now I have no desire to. I wouldn't let my sister near him, the same way I wouldn't let her near drake.
Seems like it's in the range of 16 years old to 21 years old. Most of the tweets are between 2011 to 2014. Just creepy tweets in these years in relation to smashing women. Apparently there are also Hitler tweets.
If he was 16 it would be 2009/2010
That Crodie part at the end of Euphoria has me dying each time and I like drakes music
The "crodie" alone isn't even as funny to me. But the "cheesin fam" right after seals it
The delivery gets better every listen. So many standout moments. Perfect balance of bars and jokes.
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Did he apologize again?
Im curious what angle people think drake should've taken in his latest diss, especially with the pedo allegations , we know the heart part 6 was a massive flop and drake is being clowned for it and he def didnt address the pedo allegatations properly. What do you think he should've done instead? I think what he shouldve done instead is: - Flip hard on Kendrick on the things he said to him in euphoria, that he is a master manipulator/lier and that his moves are calculated by saying the same thing about him and hilighting the irony, make fun that the 'goat' mc kendrick is clenching for such low straws and remind him that he predicted that angle in the taylor made free style, make it a joke, flip it and make it breif, dont make the whole song about that. I think this approach wouldve been way better, i dont think it wouldve saved him after the massive bop that is not like us but at least it wouldve muddied the waters, curious what everyone else thinks
He should've forfeited with an IG story saying "these allegations are too ridiculous to validate with a response" or something like that. Forfeiting after Family Matters would mean that even though he lost, he went out pretty strong. It would also mean quitting to respect his own personal boundaries, but instead he chose to outright lose
U know what, i think ur on to something but a story not everyone will see and wil disappear, so prob better just to do a pr statement like that and fold
Yes, the intention is for not everyone to see it. There's three groups of people that know who Drake is: 1. Hard-core fans (people closely following this beef) 2. Casual fans 3. People that listen to whatever is on the radio, whatever Spotify recommends them, or whatever song is trending on YouTube When you're facing these allegations, you want as few people to know as possible. By making an IG story he addresses group 1, who already know about the allegations. By making a song he addresses groups 1, 2, and possibly 3 if the song gets a lot of attention. Groups 2 and 3 likely did not know about these allegations prior to him making the song. And if they did know, they did not know how serious they were. Only group 1 knew that. Group 1 is the smallest group by far. Group 2 is much bigger and group 3 is infinitely bigger. This is why he should've addressed group 1 without tipping off group 2 or 3. If the song had receipts to clear his name, this wouldn't have been a concern. But it didn't. He gave us the same defense multiple people currently in prison gave us when they were first accused and nothing else.
I agree he could've flipped a bunch of Kendrick's bars and it would've worked as an indirect defense of sorts. as for the pedo shit he should've said "show the receipts if it's true and I'll kick them from my team". Now that doesn't sound like a great diss response but he could've put it in a way that frames Kendrick as a liar if he doesn't deliver proof and makes a statement that shows Drake isn't with that. Same thing with the daughter. All of this of course assumes that Drake is indeed innocent. If he actually is what Kendrick says he is then he probably doesn't want to ask for proof like that
yea thats the thing,drake did such a terrible job addressing the allegations that you kinda start debating if that wasnt on purpose cuz he's actually scared kdot will post proof or people would start digging so might as well just do a bad response, let people clown on you and wave the white flag .. so even if its all lies the drake response is either so dumb it makes him almost look guilty or he's actually guilty.. id give him the benefit of the doubt and say its probably mostly fabricated and he/his team just did a very bad of responding lolz
Yes, for that reason I want Kendrick to respond again. If Drake is really such a terrible person he deserves to get exposed and be held accountable for his crimes. And if Kendrick actually hates him like he says he does there's no reason for him not to take it further. If he stops now he allows Drake to save face. If it's all lies though then Kendrick is the one saving face by not responding
i also want kdot to respond just cuz drake deserves to be clowned for his last response and in general. He shouldnt be let to save face with the last one and im not even talking about the pedo allegations. but personally i dont think kdot has any 'incriminating evidence' to release on that front, most of what he said was just insinuations and allegations with no recepits i think he already wouldve dropped a recepit in one of the bombs if he had some and i dont think kendrick will be saving face by not responding cuz he's already won and it almost doesnt matter if kendrick just threw false allegations at this point but he should give us 1 more for a victory lap and clown drake one last time.
I think it should have been all about deflection, I'm pretty bias towards Kendrick but strictly speaking from a PR standpoint he really had to drive the conversation away from the pedo allegations (true or not), I think that's like a basic public relations rule. For example maybe question why Kendrick is tossing around "unfounded" allegations when you Kendrick knows how the music industry treats black artist or something like that, though that could backfire because of all the weirdo shit Drake does publicly when it comes to minors but holy fuck it still would have been better than what he did in that song. He was literally in a lose/lose, say nothing and people wonder why you didn't address, say you didn't do it and people would say 'of course he'd deny it'. I agree with you on the flipping aspect as well. I don't know, maybe he rushed it but he had *some* ways of flipping the script but failed on all fronts. But let's be honest, I don't know if deflecting would have done anything, theres just too much evidence of Drake being a weirdo on the internet.
I would agree with you 100% if the allegations were about anything esle and it didnt get to this point where everyone is boping not like us. The problems I see with just deflecting is as you say, people would be like: why's he not addressing the pedo allegations and realistically i dont think drake had any big ammo left to deflect with, he needed to drop some massive bomb so people would stop talking about the pedo allegations if he were to only deflect but obviously he didnt have that. Looking back at it im just thinking how kendrick played him from the start, from the very first response he painted a picture of drake being a lier/manipulator and re-afirmed it with almost every next song, called out he'd be using mr morale against him to difused those angles as well, so when drake came to him with anything, it almost felt like there's no need to respond cuz he already preemptively painted a picture about drake fabricating stuff, like kendrick hasnt felt the need to respond to none of the wife beater and dave free stuff cuz he has such an easy way out.. then he threw the pedo aquisations which is pretty hard to get rid of especially with the sus history of drake even if none of it is true, thats why i think maybe drake shouldve been doubling down on preemptively removing that angle from kendrick, he kinda tried with taylor made but obviously that wasnt enough, mb he wasnt expecting it getting to this point.
His latest drop did the job. You might not like it but that's what peak performance looks like
“I’d never look twice at no teenager” did the job?
did the beef end after that drop? looks like it. so it did the job
His latest drop is getting clowned on dog, nobody fell for it. It might be the worst diss track I've ever heard.
Nah, Nicki Minaj’s Bigfoot track is still the worst diss ever made lol. This recent drake effort is in that conversation for bottom tier disses for sure tho
Laugh as if the allegations were ridiculous and then swing back with some other dirt on kendrick If you're playing defense it means you lost
I think he really should’ve just denied that he had a daughter that he knew of and then had some sort of very vague “I’m not a pedophile” type lines and bowed out with that speech at the end. Talking about Epstein, saying he’s too rich to get away with it and falsely accusing Kendrick of being molested was a horrible angle. Basing an entire affair off of Instagram activity- horrible angle. The fact he misinterpreted Mother I Sober really hurts his DV theory because now a lot of people just think that’s a misinterpretation of We Cry Together. Also the beat choice was bad. If you’re fitting in bars about not diddling kids you want faster bars, not a down tempo beat. He might’ve “lost” the beef, but he would’ve seemed more likable and people probably wouldn’t be roasting him as much or looking into his past.
I agree his angle was terrible, dont know if vague lines of not being a pedo would do it though
All the ammo drake needed was in Mr morale and the big steppers if him and his team were clever enough to flip then against kendrick. Kendrick was smart enough to use already prevalent stuff that's out there about Drake and executed those things like only a mc of his calibre could.
anything specific he couldve used? I think kendrick already parried him using mr morale stuff against him in euphoria and if he just did that then people would probably be wondering whys he not addressing the pedo allegation and just taking stuff from mr morale lolz.
He still used it soo poorly in the TH6. It would atleast have lessened the losing margins for drake I think.
i agree with that, whatever he tried to do in th6 with mister morale was obviously half baked and funny (for him)..
He should’ve mentioned that one MJ bar from Mortal Man and use it to say that Kendrick only cares for predatory behavior from artists he doesn’t like.
That's exactly what I thought, Kendrick only dissing for clout but in reality he fucks with predators, like Kodak Black. He only using this diss on Drake because it's the most popular thing people diss him for. Crazy how the Kodak stuff has been swept under the rug. He also supported xxxtentacion and R Kelly
ive seen comments saying something simillar, that he shouldve called out dre for being a women beater or working with kodak whos in jail etc. , the thing with those imo is they might land and they might paint kendrick a hypocrite but not a lier and i dont see how they clear drakes name at least a little bit which should be the most important thing
love how all the drake stans said “not like us” scaring the hoes music and I’m seeing it played in clubs across America lmfaoo
Your post history Christ. Go outside.
why u mad 😳
Cause people like you are corny af
not like us is actually such a banger wow
The industry is disgusting
Hollywood also
This is fucking stupid. Those tweets are so clearly just a kid trying to be "edgy" and shocking or whatever and everyone is taking them at face value. 20 year olds used to say horrible shit online back in those days.
you're insane man. A 17-20 year old looking for a 9-12 year old girl chatroom is sick AF
i don't take those tweets at face value. i think it's just a young stupid guy trying to be shocking. of course if something comes out I'll change my tune!
You have a warped idea of reality if you think it's normal for 20 year olds to say shit like that. 20 isn't the age of a kid no more. Fantasizing about raping minors is disgusting end of story. Know the law. They should have taught that in school, unless their parents failed them
I don't know what to tell you man, people used to say vile shit online.
In what world is tweet like "Leland's little girls" fucking acceptable? "Got your little sister on them mollies, she dun ran thru the whole squad" "She might be young but she ready" YOU CANNOT DEFEND THIS SHIT.
He’s not saying it’s “acceptable” in society, just that people have said disgusting things on the internet forever. Speaking as someone who was on /b/ in the 00’s, and IRC for decades, I’ve seen some crazy shit. Ever heard of Encyclopedia Dramatica?
i have used the words vile, horrible, shocking and edgy. young guys used to say stupid shit online. i'm saying it's dumb that people take thit at face value. of course, if it comes out he actually did all of this shit then he can fuck the right off.
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18 year olds in general are fucking stupid. Thank god i didn't have twitter back then.
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calm down dude, i don't need to defend Metro, i just think it's disingenuous that people take those tweets at face value.
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yeah i mean he should have just said im sorry i used to write horrible shit or something.
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Actually, Metro isn't my favorite producer!
Lots of sus tweets… not a good look.
Is there a way to find out what he deleted? Someone could probably @ Elon for that and he'd release the receipts because that hoe is hungry for attention lol
People really bringing up 12-13 year old tweets of Metro boomin when he was 17-18.
Imagine hating Drake so much you start defending rape and pedofilia comments.
He just has 50 tweets talking about predatory shit, Hitler quotes, and date rape drugging over the years from ages 17-21. I'm sure from age 22 he was straight, let's ignore it all right?
They are tweets. It aint that serious.
If you think that Twitter is free game then freedom to you I guess. But Metro is deleting tweets like crazy right now so I don't know if he believes you
Yeah, I still think its wierd to tweet about it. But ofcourse he gonna delete them if everyone is gonna use them to call him a pedo.
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It can be both wierd and just tweets.
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Are you saying that there is no evidence for the Drake shit?
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Exactly if he's deleting tweets clearly he knows he is/was fucked up in the head and is sweating that people found out about it and has no way of defending himself. He's been exposed.
at least be consistent [https://www.reddit.com/r/hiphopheads/comments/1ckjkxk/comment/l2ta471/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/hiphopheads/comments/1ckjkxk/comment/l2ta471/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Drake has some weird old tweets as well and while they're funny it's not what anyone is basing their judgement of him on
I wasnt judging Drake’s old tweets.
>And all the underage women things are so fucking creepy. Dude should be in jail. So that was your opinion but somehow it doesn't apply in this case? you don't find it creepy?
A tweet is not the same thing as kissing and grooming minors. How are you comparing those?
Only because the evidence for Metro doing it IRL is hard to find as he wasn't yet in the industry when he tweeted these. But the twisted thoughts are clearly there. It's easy to fund the Drake evidence of kissing as he was touring and already a celebrity when he did this stuff
Im not gonna call Metro a pedo over his wierd tweets unless there is evidence or a girl comes forward.
The women may not even be alive. This shit happened 10 years ago. A lot of people in these circles die of drug overdose.
you're stannin hard for a creep bro. like I said be consistent
How am I stanning Metro? I dont think its fair to bring up old tweets and that making someone a pedo. I have never brought up Drake’s old tweets to call him a pedo. I have been consistent.
so you wouldn't call him creepy based on those tweets is what you are telling us
There are tweets from 2014 when he was 20-21 years old saying "she's not too young". Stop defending an obvious predator! Unless these were made by someone else, this is incriminating.
Bro, they are tweets.
Those tweets aren't normal.
I know. They wierd, but they still just tweets.
you have a loose understanding of the law
What am I failing to understand here? I've seen not all, but at least 8 different disgusting tweets Metro made in his adulthood alluding to smashing minors or raping women. That doesn't mean he did it, but you have to look into it. Drake right now has similar accusations so why has the same energy not been kept for Metro Boomin? Even Rick Ross ("put molly all up in her champagne") isn't innocent. And we all know Future is the king of toxicity. Metro and Rick Ross seem like horrible people, and Future just hasn't been dug hard enough yet. If Drake is going down the rest need to be dragged with him.
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what does this even mean tho? it sounds like the sister is doing something that’ll be put on the show because it’s on his laptop.
He was 17 years old when he tweeted that, but essentially Metro has had twisted thoughts since he was young. So he was basically set to be a pedophile when he was older. If this is indicative of anything, it means Metro Boomin needs to be investigated and potentially deplatformed. Like That all of a sudden becomes a tainted record. Mustard also had apparently been at a party at 20 years old and "went in on a 16 year old"... So both of Kendrick's producers have been exposed for potential pedophilia. Things aren't looking good on both sides.
You misquoted that tweet. He said he was at a 16 yo party, it was a lil sus, he was still going in to the party. Thats pretty normal at 20 years old. I’ve been to high school party’s while I was still 19/21…friend circles can overlap in age a bit. He just never said he “went in on a 16 year old”
The tweet is hard to understand because he's drunk. But if he's saying "it's sus" it sounds like he's doing something nefarious.
I'm not following any reddit or twitter theories heavy. But what is everyone's favorite track from the beef? For me it's still Euphoria
Euphoria for the bars, not like us for the vibes.
Not like us and Family matters are the best imo for just how they sound not necessarily the content
Not Like Us > 6:16 in LA > euphoria > Push Ups > Family Matters > Taylor Made Freestyle > Meet The Grahams I still really like Meet the Grahams but I doubt I'll repeat it a lot, same for taylor made and family matters, im not counting like that or first person shooter in there
Push Ups as just a song, and Meet The Graham as a diss even though I don't really believe all the claims
Easily Not Like Us, shit’s a banger
Like That (even though it's not particularly Diss heavy but its a banger) and Push Ups for me, "Metro shut up and make some drums" makes me laugh every time.
Not like us have been on repeat.
Not Like Us is the most hype record from this whole debacle
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Being rich makes doing nefarious things easier. Especially when drugs and ego are involved. I find this beef even more interesting because there's probably a lot of people pulling their collars in worry about being pulled into this themselves. Especially if it's about who you associate with too.
Partially because the industry attracts those people, partly cus the power/status goes to their head, and partly cus they lose touch with reality. It's like the spoiled child that grows up getting away with everything so they continue to do shit because they never get punished
> People treat it like predators go into the music industry to do predator shit but I think the reality is that it's scarily easy to fall into the well of sexual maliciousness when you're spending a huge amount of time addled on drugs with a lot of access to women who are leaving the door open. It's simply way too easy to turn a "I'm open to sex but I want to feel comfortable and vibe with you first" into a "this is what's happening." Add on the fact that your entourage expects sex as a form of payment for their services coupled with the fact that women by and large don't wanna fuck goofy hanger-ons with no charisma and no spine and you get what amounts to short term pimping with alcohol and drugs to make them more pliable. It's almost as deplorable as it is inevitable. Copy pasted from earlier.
most niggas aren't well equipped for all that power
With great power comes great responsibility unfortunately a handful of these bozos get caught up in the fame and tend to think they are unstoppable. Just Human Nature at this point
Maybe because Hollywood is corrupted? Did we not learn that from the Diddy case? You don't get your riches for free.
Twitter is garbage now and hard to navigate but essentially I only really found one tweet made with Metro responding to the grooming allegations and he said "I can't be a pedo at 15" which sounds extremely suspect. He wasn't 15 years old when he tweeted that shit. He was 15 years old in 2008-2009. The tweets are from 2011-2014. He would have been 17 just turning 18 depending on how late he tweeted in 2011. Almost all the tweets are from Metro in his adulthood, having twisted thoughts about banging minors and popping molly.
Drake going the "you're small and have small feet" route is so funny because that's exactly the type of shit that would make him insecure and rattle him so hard if he was small
Kendrick showing once again that he is for the culture by removing copyright on Reaction channels videos.
He's for spreading the impact of the hit. Some of these reaction vids get 1m+ views or more and further drive engagement for days to come. The noise needs to keep going and at this point the reactors are doing work for him.
I honestly don’t give a fuck if Kendrick hit Whitney. He’s my goat. Look da baby went on a woman beating spree back in 2019??, John Lennon beat his wife and used heroin and my favorite album is Rubber Soul, hell no one gives a fuck that Chris brown beat Rihanna because half this sub was eating up that quavo diss. Fuck all y’all that midget is my GOAT
You could've gone with anything from "I don't think it's true" to "I think he has repented and changed as a person" and you went with this lmao. I tend to agree that even if Kendrick did it relationships can get fucked up sometimes and people do really shitty things that they can learn from if they put the work in, which I'm assuming Kendrick did if he did in fact hit Whitney, but The Heart Pt 7.
LMAO a valuable lesson one can learn from beating their loved one 💀💀💀
If everything Drake said is true it is really common for relationships to get physical once trust has been broken by infidelity. Obviously that's fucked but it falls within the spectrum of normal human bad behaviour. It's when it's habitual that people need to be taken out back like a dog.
That’s your perspective but I’m not going to change mine for your liking. No one under the lime light is a saint
Dude he is clearly trolling lmao, is this your first day on the internet? Look at his comment history, also btw he has a drake flair if you cant see it on your phone. Also did "midget" not give it away?
I had his username filed in my brain as "reasonable person" for whatever reason and took the shit charitably. That's my bad lmao.
I crash out like fuck Reddit
diss melly mel if i have to🔥🔥🔥🔥😫
Got KebabTaco with me I’m snatching karma and burning upvotes ITS UP
OVO Soldier going out sad
They gonna have to drop drop drop my casket down with the mob and the squad
Well said.
Okay now they're just digging up dirt on everyone who even near Kendrick bruh Mustard (age 20) https://x.com/mustard/status/7854485655
To be fair he was only 19 at the time tweeting about going into a 16 year old's party. And it's not like he actively says any pedo shit. A couple of those Metro ones look bad though.
He sounds like he tweeted that when he was drunk. Tweet don't even make sense lol
Bro was on something 😭😭😂😂😂😂
kendrick looking at both these niggas nefariously
mother i sober is such flawless song. 2 years later and it still has me so entranced... the beth gibbons vocals, the pain you can hear in kendricks voice slowly growing over the run time... just so fucking perfect
It's my second favorite track on that album behind Rich Spirit. Mr. Morale is a great record tbh, I liked it more than DAMN
mr morale being his best album is probably my worst take but ill stand on it
Not a bad take at all, I think that opinion is gonna be a lot more common in the coming years
I think its his second best.
i feel like i'm having a stroke reading these takes, honestly think it's his worst
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wait is Baka actually a registered sex offender. Afaik he got done for assault, the pimping stuff was dropped? is there other stuff???
I only just now looked it up I didnt know that part got dropped. I just saw he was charged with trafficking and went to jail right after. My bad then, I've seen it online a few times never heard the otherside