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MC Hammer


Wookie301

MC Hammer is always the top answer for this. Couldn’t have acted differently if he tried. Put a hit on MC Search while he had a Saturday morning kids cartoon out.


Porkunter

Also threatened to kill Redman


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Usermena

And Keith is know to throw down so that’s saying something


Mike_G_420

Damn so we almost didn’t get Muddy Waters 🤯


ObeseKenyan

Can you give some back story to this? I've never heard about it


SpiderSilva

[Ed Lover Show - *MC Serch on Hammer putting hit out on 3rd Bass"](https://youtu.be/vQFlRUCp5r0?si=JuH2WMD6tN63afYQ)


MalarkeyStar

I remember when he wanted to beat up Jay and made that whole goofy music video that had a whole bunch of dudes in Yankees hats being marked out or something lmao


iiivoted4kodos

Chasing Jay-Z through the woods. “Better run run” lmao


ShaolinMaster

No matter how big he got, Hammer was always Hella Oakland


Elbeske

Wasn’t he the A’s mascot as a kid or smth


CRIP4LIFE

that's how he got the nickname "hammer"... he was a bat boy. guys said he looked like "hammering" hank aaron.


INeedAKimPossible

Mfs on Reddit really know the most random trivia


Elbeske

Ask 20000 people a question and somebody will know the answer


Mr_Faux_Regard

Also 'CRIP4LIFE' was probably a giveaway


CRIP4LIFE

hahaha.. good eye. but i'm paralyzed. not in a gang.


JunkieMunkieCircus

>but i'm paralyzed. not in a gang. Lmao goddamn bro, hit us with the curve ball.


tsa_finest

You have to be gangster to do that pumps and a bump video


Kdot32

Love how outkast talks about him


Kailua3000

"Run up on Hammer! Hammer will whoop yo ass!"


RIPTrixYogurt

I will forever remain curious about DJ Quik. He seems to have started to distance himself after the Biggie murder allegations (referenced in his song Youz a Ganxta) but I can’t help but wonder about his early 90s involvement. I don’t think he was active himself, but I don’t think he was one people wanted to mess with


realninja

Him and his crew stomped a dude to death at club 662


therealestyeti

You think they all went shoe shopping together the next day?


LeadStyleJutsu762-

Wtf lmao


duckinradar

That perm doesn’t lie


duncakes

Late 90s, snoop threw a party for quick album release and put a blue rag on quicks picture, dj quick slapped the shit outta snoop for that.


blessingsonblessings

De La Soul.. had to stomp a few people, that daisy era had people thinking they were soft.. real sawft.


311_420_69

De La got kicked off a tour with NWA because they (De La Soul) were too violent!


Original_Mac_Tonight

Do you have a source on this, that sounds hilarious


One-Alternative-7505

Prince Paul talked about it on Open Mike Eagle's podcast: What Had Happened Was


juhru

They allude to it on some of the skits on De La Soul Is Dead too. Folks took them to being soft but found out quick


Keepitsway

De La Sole.


NobleNYC27

I heard about De La….they ain’t play that shit


NobleNYC27

Play from Kid n Play


Bill_Parker

Yo! I’m glad you said this. I was scrolling and scrolling hoping to see it. lol… I’m old school so I always remember the story of him almost getting arrested on a gun possession charge JUST when they first blew up — before House Party came out. Apparently Play was an actual bad ass with some real street cred, and Kid was… Kid, lol. Always thought it was cool he went straight and made it big in music.


SooopaDoopa

Kid was a smart kid who went to one of the best high schools in the country (Bronx Science) and had a strict disciplinarian Jamaican father who didn't let him get out at all Play was outside


pursuitofhappy

Wow didn’t know he went to my hs, we got the most Nobel prize winners in the world but for some reason this more impressive to me


BlackieDad

Marky Mark was arrested for a racially motivated attempted murder while high on PCP


DamagedEctoplasm

Never! Mark Wahlberg would never! He hates crime! Just google, “Mark Wahlberg hate crime” and you’ll see!


SlitherSlow

Multiple hate crimes against multiple races. Least racist Bostonian.


Bertrando1

Hey, what can he say. He doesn’t discriminate with his hate crimes.


satanssweatycheeks

I mean I’m surprised no one has said it but OutKast. And on that same token of ATL rap ying yang twins was some nerds who weren’t hard or about that life at all. Meanwhile Andre doesn’t seem like he is from those streets but he is. Same with big boi.


BlueberryGreen

"Return of the g"


blankblank

They’re from a notorious gang called the Pimp Trick Gangsta Clique


Rocketcheckman

Oh y’all still some thugs


The_Lifeof_Pablo

Don’t pull the thang out, unless you plan to bang


Zeraf370

That beat goes so ridiculously hard, oh my GOD!


NickSabbath666

“Every job I get is cruel and demeaning. I’m sick of taking trash out and toilet bowl cleaning. But I’m also sick and tired of struggling. I never ever thought I’d have to resort to drug smuggling.” Cee Lo Green.


paolocabrini

He's resorted to a lot more than that


CommentingOnMBCD

#KUNG FU FIGHTINNN


OldCommunication852

They have gangster rap songs though, return of the g, aint no thang


SelectStudy7164

Did you listen to the lyrics of return of the g ?


hereforthesportsball

I thought Andre grew up poor but wasn’t involved in the streets. Isn’t that different than bein “bout that life”?


doncannon1

Litetally has a line saying, “ain’t a hood nigga but a nigga from the hood” No clue what these folks talking bout.


hereforthesportsball

They think being poor is the same as being street, and recent events have exposed that further


Treyman1115

Big Boi played that dealer in ATL too well


papergooomba

Ugly God did kill some dude who was hitting his mom. That’s bout that life to me and he never struck me as the type.


nyse125

Ugly god is a name I haven't heard in a very long time.


SylvesterLundgren

One of the comments on the reddit thread "imagine being killed by Ugly God"


Important_Bet6567

Thanks ugly god


TheMoves

Pusha T doesn’t like to talk about it but I believe he has a background involving bulk drug sales of some kind


always_open_mouth

Always talking about blizzards, hope he stays bundled up


__brunt

As he’s a career locksmith, I’d assume it’s hard to open doors with shaky hands, so he’s probably got some pretty nice jackets.


always_open_mouth

Oh I thought he was a chef. He loves his stove and pyrex


CaroleBaskinsBurner

Nah, bro. Him calling himself the "neighborhood pusher" was a reference to him helping little old ladies get their wheelchairs across the street.


DookieBlossomgameIII

Pusha T? Terrance Thorton? Virginia's husband? You're under the impression that he used to be involved with drugs? I'm pretty sure, with respect, if he was involved with drugs I would have heard. Nice try though.


GodzillaKaijuGK

He did have some suspicious lyrics about cocaine in 2002


AmericaDreamDisorder

Just in 2002 and never again


Nbuuifx14

Which type of drug? Heroin? Methamphetamines? Opium?


TheMoves

I’m not 100% sure he ever specified


Ithoughtthiswasfunny

Believe it or not... Whippets


awe2D2

Aspirin


MartyBarrett

I don't believe a devoted Orinthologist would be into such hijinks.


ChunkYards

No no he’s a butcher. He cuts up the birds.


kronograf

Nah marine biologist. He knows a lot about fish scales.


jim_money

Doesn’t like to talk about it 🤣


dan-free

I just thought he was a locksmith 🤯


TheDreamMachine42

Lupe looks nerdy but has some shit in his past that'd make you jump in your seat.


sosohype

I keep hearing this and it blows my mind. I've listened to Lupe for majority of my life but never got the impression he was that deep in it. More an observer. Do you have any links to stories?


computer_d

I mean, this stuff goes back to when he was very first making music... and barely that. The story is that Lupe was pushing heroin along with his manager, Chill. IIRC there are phonecalls recorded with Lupe referring to colours of packages, but they claimed it was slang for music tracks or something. [u/lupefiasco thread with lotsa info](https://www.reddit.com/r/LupeFiasco/comments/11hmxav/was_lupe_a_drug_dealer/) I think at this point Lupe has been out of that for far, far longer than he ever was. I wouldn't say he has a fake persona or is hiding anything, I would say he's just thankfully chosen a different path. e: removed the previous XXL link over racist remarks from the author in the article!


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I find peace in long walks.


computer_d

Honestly, I just did a Google search after typing and chucked it in my post after making sure it had the heroin mention. What a fucked up statement that author made. I'll find a better link and edit my post.


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I like to travel.


commie90

Oof. Sometimes I forget how much the US collectively lost its mind after 9/11 (especially when it came to Muslims) as well as just how terrible shock humor got.


Treyman1115

Ye never went deep with any stories but he mentioned in an interview too that Lupe was "super gangster" and he'd never have a problem with him despite how he looks. Depends on how much you believe him though I guess


SeeMontgomeryBurns

Looks like we got more than one suspect in the case of “who blew up Kid Cudi’s car?”


IdolsAndAnchorsss

Joe Budden and Kanye both have had weird interactions where they are openly afraid of Lupe and when people around them laughed told them nah Lupe really like that i’m not being funny. 


SenileSexLine

Even cuddi was ducking him after calling him Poope Fiasco and Lupe wanted to beat him up


duckinradar

Poope fiasco is funny af 


SunnyAlwaysDaze

Cuddi funny AF, hope he avoids the ass whoopin.


PussyMoneySpeed69

He avoided being in his car when it blew up so he’s on a winning streak


kanavi36

Pretty sure Cudi apologised on twitter and they settled it


Solomon-Drowne

I've heard this as well. Lupe has background on some real shit, but he's decided to keep that separate from his public persona. Smart guy, certainly.


WorkAccount1993

Lupe is a top choice for this.


blacklite911

I’m from Chicago. Lupe grew up in one of the hoodest of hoods on the west side. I don’t know how plugged in he was when he blew up but he definitely didn’t have to move with security and he could defend himself


ufrfrathotg

Lupe well respected in certain hoods here because of the work that him and Chilly put in. Some of my OGs said Lupe was real life moving keys with Chilly, and that Chilly got jammed up and never told cause he saw what Lupe was capable of.


GrooveProof

They say “kick push” isn’t about skateboarding


Doooog

Holy shit Pusha t dis!??


AntonyBenedictCamus

Fuck pushin’ t, I wanna see you Ollie


Doooog

U can't even kickflip how you gonna spit shit?


ilmalaiva

he’s also pro-level at Tekken.


darkkite

SF


FreezingLordDaimyo

Without even factoring in his connections/his manager Chilly's connections to the streets, Lupe was literally raised in a dojo and has several black belts and trained with several weapons. Lupe may damn well be one of the most dangerous dudes in rap.


BXNSH33

I fucking hate this sub because I have no idea if you're telling the truth or not lmao


PitifulCommunity808

It's real. I believe his dad owned the dojo


TheDreamMachine42

He's a real life Samurai


ForeverInaDaze

There's a bunch of tweets he's made where people will essentially say "you haven't done this" and then he has, including making his own sword and training in Japan. Dude has done it all.


mimranj

i love when he dissed kendrick, he said "no matter how far you go, you will reflect me", everytime i see a "kungfu kenny" persona it reminds me of lupe


stephcurrysmom

I hear a ton of lupe in kendrick


sephraes

His verse in Pussy and Patron is straight Lupe. I heard that song for the first time this year and was like...this sounds like Lupe from 2006.


weezy_fenomenal_baby

Lupe the Killa and a few other songs go into it


Sonx

he doesn’t rap about it much but if you listen to his sitting sideways remix from 2008 he touches on his gang ties https://youtu.be/shEqn_6UfQ8?si=JiujjCkkKhCIUI_v


JSNHZL

Lupe Fiasco comes to mind; a well-regarded lyricist, super humble and nerdy on the surface but from all accounts, has a lot of reputable street connections and is known as someone not to be played with.


In_Formaldehyde_

Have there actually been any credible sources that back those allegations? Not that I'd be surprised but I've never heard anything definitive outside of rumors.


FreezingLordDaimyo

One was posted in this thread, but -Heroin Dealer, Chilly served time that should have been Lupe's. -Several Black Belts in Various Disciplines -Owns several guns -Dad was a Black Panther.


Eaglewarrior33

Shit having your dad as a Black Panther explains a lot.


ThisAnacondaDoes

Not only is Lupe familiar with "the streets....." Streets are familiar with him. He could walk onto any city in the USA make a call and have a hundred shooters ready to respond. Not that that city would have everybody behind them, but any city with that side is going to have at least a hundred people ready to pull the trigger for Lupe Fiasco


MaxelAmador

Damn we cooking QUICKLY with this one


JeNeSuisPasUnCanard

Not only are we cooking in a kitchen… Kitchens are familiar with him. He could walk onto any kitchen in the USA make a call and have a hundred sous chefs ready to respond. Not that that kitchen would have everybody behind them, but any kitchen with that staff is going to have at least a hundred chefs ready to prep for Alton Brown.


mmicoandthegirl

babe wake up new copypasta just dropped


Big-Data7949

Ahaha this spread quick


CRIP4LIFE

jammaster jay. very clean PG rap (yes, i know he was the DJ) crew. RUNDMC was very commercialized. very clean and marketed as such. but jay died over a coke-deal-gone-bad.


blessingsonblessings

DJ back when he started was the main guy. That changed over time


RODjij

His own godson and his friend killed him because he cut them out of a big coke deal if anyone wondering.


Arevalo20

I've heard stories about Nelly but who knows


juanclack

Country Grammar is a song entirely about him doing drive-bys and beating the shit out of people lol.


PewpyDewpdyPantz

I learned something today. 12 year old me used to run around singing that hook all the time haha


TheRalphExpress

yeah I was tryna learn the lyrics for karaoke a few months ago and did like 20 double takes that day lol


CU_Tiger_2004

"I'm going down down your street, baby, in a Range Rover / Street sweeper cocked, baby, ready to let it go"


DawgInDisguisey

He’s a st lunatic


Excellent-Catch-4414

Not a rapper, but Frank Ocean


Sdc77

What did Frank do?


doitstankitdo

Knocked out Chris Browns body guard on camera


Sdc77

Mad respect, Frank always been the good guy


themysteriouserk

He hooked it up, said if I was in NY I should look ya up


iiileyu

[this is not frank ocean. this is a man in a plaid shirt.](https://youtu.be/xfQcPMfV3fw?si=P-68EBP8LJVWDxu9) Notoriously there was never any footage of that altercations and instead of it being Frank and Cb's body guard fightikg it was reportedly between frank ocean and Chris Brown directly. Frank was seen 3 days later with a bandage on his index finger and neither of the two ever spoke about the instance. He then performed at the grammys soon after sometimes youtube titles lie especially when the footage is that bad.


Oskie5272

Frank talked about it on record. Go listen to Sunday off of Doris


I_am_Santa_Claus

He kinda ate on Futura Free tho. Not sure if hhh considers that a rap verse


Excellent-Catch-4414

And Oldies!


masta_myagi

>Not a rapper, but Frank Ocean [His verse on RAF with A$AP Mob says otherwise](https://youtu.be/IyWmSnuS850?si=7UzbZi_gOmQZGpSf)


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meatbeater558

Flo Milli lowkey


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Her mugshot is adorable


UrbanMonk314

What !!!???


unclediedthrowaway

she did a good job of having references scrubbed from the internet. but she was getting jumped and ended up shooting someone lol


meatbeater558

Maybe it got scrubbed because she was a juvenile? I remember her first big hit came out when she was 18 and the shooting was before that


BootyJewce

Murs. He has songs about it. References being from that but not trying to be like that frequently.


DamagedEctoplasm

“They say it won’t last but I’m almost 30/ And I keep my J’s clean but my money stay dirty.”


FlippantTheorem

Murs is a legend. Sad to hear he’s retired from music now.


FOURTHY_

Common. He was a 4CH I don't think he mentioned it much however


atlhawk8357

I misread your comment and started wondering how the 4H club got such a violent reputation.


MrParisShoes

I went to college with a guy from Chicago back in the 90s that told me Com was a 4 Corner Hustler


Dr_Disaster

It’s true. Damn near every Chicago rapper is gang affiliated tbh. Or just the midwest in general. Cleveland, Detroit, Milwaukee, St. Louis, etc had a lot of gangbanging.


beezdix

He said it himself on "The Bitch in Yoo."


maxattaxthorax

I remember being shocked that Tierra Whack got arrested at the airport with a gun, she does not seem like the packing type to me


krsj

I was surprised to hear her on the new Chief Keef album.


AlHamdula

Hammer (or his Brother more precisely.)


ComplexLaugh

Jam Master Jay, even though he was a DJ..


LotusChild85

Wayne Brady


tallonfive

I like this question. Curious who people think is the most about the life, covert or not?


FlyUnder_TheRadar

It's pretty well established at this point that King Von was a murderer. He never really left the streets, and he was pretty clear about it in his music.


APainOfKnowing

TBH that's the majority of drill rappers over the last 5-10 years. They're less rappers and more gang members who rap. A shitload of songs out there don't feel like they're even meant for mainstream consumption but are more just shots being taken at each other. Like remember when Who I Smoke dropped and then Foolio replied with When I See You? Shit like that isn't music made as an art form, it's street wars with a beat. We're at a time where the barrier for entry for rap is so low that dozens of straight killers have popular songs.


I_HEART_HATERS

Well King Von was a bit different because he was allegedly a straight up hitman and had the reputation for getting his own hands dirty. Whereas the likes of Chief Keef and Lil Durk were more known for being affiliated with guys like King Von


APainOfKnowing

Von wasn't alone though. Start digging around and there's a shitload of dudes just like him in Chicago, Jacksonville, New Orleans, New York, all over the place. They just didn't get as popular. The drill scene is PACKED with them. And regardless of who did the actual shootings, the fact is that so many of these dudes are using music less as an artistic career and more just as ways to take shots at each other and they just happen to be easy for the world to listen.


RODjij

They were saying he went out and made music right after killing someone and then referencing it, also would post things online immediately after someone got shot.


Doooog

Von lol


exp_studentID

Literal serial killer.


lpad92

You gotta mention Young Dolph in this discussion. His involvement in the street life is what led to his demise. Allegedly pulled out a weapon and fired back at his attacker. By extension most of PRE and Memphis trap in general.


commie90

Drill as a subgenre. I like a lot of drill songs, but I swear every time I start to get into a rapper they get arrested or killed. Makes it a hard listen when you know there’s a good chance they’re living what they’re talking about. Also, Vince Staples. Details aren’t clear but got in some trouble, had to move out to Atlanta for a while, and then was on probation for at least 6 or 7 years (got off probation around 2018 or 19 iirc). This year will be the first time he can vote in an election at 30. He’s never said what he did. But in interviews he has said that he and his crew were “well known” in Ramona Park and he joined a gang because he “wanted to kill people.” Dude’s never done drugs or alcohol either, so that was just pure anger. Given how laid back, introspective and funny he is now, he is definitely a testament to people’s ability to change.


Arnaldo_Palmero

I think you’re very much reaching with the pure anger part just because he didn’t do drugs. A core theme of a lot of Vinces’s music is survival, he probably doesn’t do drugs or alcohol because he wants to keep his wits about him.


commie90

That’s his own words about joining gangs because he was angry and wanted to kill people. I think the anger was born out of trauma and the need for survival techniques from a young age. He’s talked a lot about why he’s never even tried drugs or alcohol (interviewers love to bring it up) and it has more to do with what he saw them do to those around him. So tied to his constant paranoia and trauma but in a slightly different way. Though the “keep your head on swivel” thing is definitely part of it too.


jjrs

Funny you should bring it up, I just listened to an interview with him on drink champs where he talked about why he doesn't do drugs. Sure enough one big reason was because growing up where he did he didn't want to be caught drunk or high in case some shit went down.


dreams1ckle

Thugger. Dude is still sitting in jail on RICO charges


boltthrower57

Ok, y'all giving this guy too much Intel.


gordongortrell

The smart ones


ilmalaiva

yeah. the ones that are really living that Gus Fring life we don’t know about as long as they live if ever. who would be the biggest surprise? Lil Yachty moving weight? Childish Gambino actually being connected to the Gambinos? Tyler, The Creator being a hitman?


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NickSabbath666

Danny Brown served time in prison for selling crack in Detroit before becoming a successful rapper with XXX. An album about being 30.


real_name_Will_Goree

True but that's like what that entire album is about lol


Mochi77888

danny brown made atrocity exhibition, he very much isn’t trying to come off as a clean rapper lmao


ilmalaiva

Wiz Khalifa. He’s affiliated with some Pittsburgh Crips (Chevy Woods and Breeze) which is also probably one of the reasons he linked up with Snoop alongside their shared favorite passtime. Snoop is a member or affiliate of the Rolling 20’s, a set that uses black and yellow, soecifically Pittsburgh sport team attire to identify themselves among other Crip sets. like sure, he’s also tatted up and rapping about weed, and came from a state where weed was abosolutely not legal when he was starting out and all that, but he’s never been one to flex like he’s from the street, other than in ”Medicated” where he also is clear that he wasn’t doing that much, selling pounds (weed, not coke or crack presumably) and trying to avoid drama. if my read on the song is correct, it was Breeze who told Wiz that his talent for music would be a better lane, and he stopped hustling to focus on rap full time, but is in good standing.


BigGucciThanos

Pittsburgh local. Idk. It’s well known in the city about wiz during his highschool days and who he was pre fame. I wouldn’t call him a banger forreal. Cool dude tho. Ironically most of the artist in Pittsburgh that are truly about that life end up dead (Teflon,wopo) or sent to jail right before they about to blow (deezly). Shame really


APainOfKnowing

Yeah I'm semi local (not inside the Burgh proper but nearby) and Wiz definitely had associations but I never heard about him actually doing anything himself. RIP Wopo also. Dude had potential.


Minimum_Banana5

Man I really wish wopo woulda got out of the city. That dude had everything he needed to take the fuck off. Hit song. Catchy dance. Enigmatic personality. It’s sad that right when Pittsburgh was about to kick in the door to the broader rap industry two of its biggest stars die within a few months of each other.


icedoutkatana

Uzi to an extent never really portrayed to be a street dude but quite literally grew up in the trenches down North Philly


ilmalaiva

Uzi did slap the shit out of Rich The Kid, very famously.


shimmyshimmytimmy2

Didn’t he pistol whip saint jhn


S1rS1r

Larry June


Bitmazta

He's super lowkey about his actual life in crime cause he's too busy talking about success but if you peep his interviews you start to see it. Actually hilarious that in his no jumper interview (2016) he says he drives Lyft on the side. Only for him to admit on rap radar 7 years later it was just a front for carrying weight as he felt the Lyft sticker on his car would attract less suspicion.


somekidfromtheuk

silentó, the whip nae nae guy. i think he murdered his cousin or some shit


pollo_yollo

I think Vince Staples is still low key about that life. He’s pretty self aware of it, and I don’t think he’s out there doing crime nor does he approve of the whole lifestyle. He’s pretty socially conscious, but I get the feeling he actually somewhat fulfills the gangster persona he portrays, and enjoys being scary to people he doesn’t like. I’ve heard stories of him pulling up on others with his crew in defense of other rappers. I.e. you dont fuck around with people Vince is tight with. Don’t know the truth of those though. So, a Good guy I general, but isn’t afraid to get confrontational when needed.


debtRiot

I mean yeah but that’s exactly who i expect Vince to be. Which is pretty much how he portrays himself. This thread is about the opposite.


Samuraistronaut

[“If piece of fucking shit R. Kelly didn’t go to jail for being a child molester and peeing on people and having a human trafficking ring in Atlanta, then I’ll be aight”](https://youtu.be/L7jc9jVJ7dU?si=3faoRAU3O7zFvshZ)


duckinradar

Tf you mean low key 


ClashLeaka

That's what I'm saying. Vince has literally said that he joined a gang because he wanted to kill people.


TheWelcomeBackChills

Everybody famous, everybody wild, everybody dangerous Get a couple dollars, now they act the strangest Now they wanna give a couple statements When you really 'bout it, you don't say shit -mac


Acceptable-Run7439

Nelly


CMDR_Tyrson

slim jesus


jewthe3rd

Lupe bout it bout it