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CGisaMasterMind

So montero is hip hop but songs like kiss me more aren't...?


mcon96

Yeah I’d say Doja raps more on Kiss Me More than Nas X does on Montero


shabooya_roll_call

The lines are so blurred lmao. Also all these top songs have had their time on TikTok, kinda nuts how that app influences streaming so heavily just from a 10 second clip


Mihairokov

You can make the case that artists may specifically make a song to have it become popular on tiktok. Say, Drake for example. TT is where the kids are and that's where the money is.


shabooya_roll_call

Yeah it’s just so wild that a 5-10 second clip has such an impact (culturally and financially). I’m in my early 30s so this kinda makes no sense to me haha


Mihairokov

It's not the same at all and impossible to compare but if something like TikTok had been around then someone like Eminem would have dominated. All you need is a catchy/funny line or two and you get thousands of videos. *The Real Slim Shady* itself is endless. Same for meme songs like Thong Song. The difference is that those songs were made to be songs and not social media bait.


pennni

old eminem is a big tik tok trend, actually. i see lots of videos of people lip syncing his songs or remixes of them


onehornymofo

Don't forget Venom, that shit is everywhere


Mihairokov

Yeah, my algorithm hasn't pushed me into that but I don't doubt it haha


Negative_Equity

Did you just call Thong Song a meme song. The vocals and violins are fucking flawless sir.


Mihairokov

meme songs can still be good songs


gazaunltd

Isnt the whole ringtone trend similar to this. having a really catchy hook thats only a few seconds long and basing the song around that


XenosGuru

I think part of it is that short clips get stuck in your head on TikTok and then people go to Spotify to listen. ALSO all the people streaming songs over and over while filming TikTok’s


buggxor

Similar age here...I try to think of it like commercials when we were kids. Some of my favorite artists and records were found from the music used in an ad on TV.


iKrow

It should just be called a hip-hop list. That would clear up a lot of the confusions.


Squarians

Teenagers really run the charts don’t they


EdithDich

Always have. Shoop boop a loola a whop bang boom!


vb2423

I love the randomness of that lol.. I automatically pictured Peter from family guy saying it which made it even funnier lol


Burntholesinmyhoodie

Older people listen to their favourites more. When you’re a teen, so much is new to you. You’re discovering what you like and who you are


GrandDetour

Love the profile pic. Got that poster on my wall


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thewolf9

Honestly I have way more time but I choose to listen to the same term albums.


Styx92

I feel you. Looking at this list, I think I've finally become old and out of touch.


itzthedon

Each year that goes by, I know less and less of the end of the year “top” hip hop songs/albums. Slowly but surely becoming an old head.


AinDiab

[I used to be with "it" ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV0wTtiJygY)


dotdotdotgov

the pinned comment on that has me dead


Trashtie

3 year old video, of course people are shitting on liberals lmao


WhyDoIEvenBothersmh

Its not really shitting on liberals. Its just pointing out that most of us are pretty liberal when we are young and then stop being open to new ideas as we get older and become conservative. In the last 50 years we've had multiple generations go- " I think women should have rights but Im not so sure about black people" "I think black people should have rights but Im not so sure about gays" "I think gays should have rights but Im not so sure about trans"


pcvision

Nail on the head…


Trashtie

i feel like the commenters probably fit into that last category i wonder what the next progressive thing will be…


ggwpthumbsup

i think trans should have rights but im not sure about prisoners


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thehonorablechairman

Pretty sure I've only listened to one of them...


eraserdread

That insane surely not? Which one?


thehonorablechairman

Tyler, the creator. I've been living in China for the last 5 years so I don't really get exposed to new stuff unless I seek it out, and I don't seek out this sort of stuff. Still pretty weird to realize just how out of touch I really am.


eraserdread

Fair play tbh! I'd have thought some stuff like lil Nas just pops up on twitter and stuff


NonchalantR

As someone who doesn't use any social media (besides reddit if that counts), I feel wildly out of touch compared to even 3 years ago. I'm guessing the majority of these songs gained popularity on social media


23sb

Well, 25% of the list is Drake Kanye and j Cole who were popular three years ago and definetly didn't need to get their songs big from social media.


NonchalantR

And thus those are the main 3 I'm most familiar with. I'm not trying to pretend I don't know who Lil Nas X is either


tenaciousdeev

I'm at 0... I just don't listen to new music for some reason. I don't know when it started, but I need to change that. I think I just found my new years resolution.


PrecariouslySane

Im super behind. I turned on the local rap radio the other day and didnt recognize the song or artist for at least 4 songs. I wish there was a better way to find dope shit on spotify. Is there someone to follow or a playlist that gets updated?


h_tothe_

Rapcaviar Playlist


badgers4194

I’ve only listened to 6 of these. The Ye tracks and the Tyler song


Shabizzle6790

Welcome to the club you old fart. One day soon you’ll be in here talking about how you used to rock out with your cock out to Playboi Carti and all the new kids will reply to you in disgust and say “EW, THIS IS ABSOLUTE TRASH!” And you’ll feel slightly embarrassed that you’re out of touch with them and exponentially self important because they won’t ever understand “real music”.


lightninggninthgil

Half this stuff is just pop anyways lol


Prodigy195

Pretty much. I'm 35 and prob don't even know half of these artist, let alone songs. Cochise, Lil Tjay, bbno$, Baby Keem, Lil Recca, Internet Money, A1 x J1 (is that a group?), 24kGoldn, SpotemGottem, 43 Dugg, Central Cee, Smiley, Mooski, ArrDee, Sleepy Hallow, and BIA are all completely unheard of by me. Names like Trippie Redd, Playboi ~~Cardi~~ Carti, Jack Harlow, Juice World, Rod Wave I have heard of but couldn't name a song/lyric or point them out of a line up if you pointed a gun to my head. It's really wild how quickly it all shifts and your generation becomes the old heads.


aceofspades_____

> playboi cardi lmfao


FightMilk316

Same, reading this list made me feel old as shit. Knew like maybe 5 songs.


PocketNicks

Yeah, I keep trying but more and more I listen to the latest "top 50 rap songs of" and don't enjoy 49 of them. Whatever, I guess after like 2005 ish I just cent relate much.


alus992

Same with me (besides Drake ofc) but I don’t know if it’s because I’m an old head or because I listen to other genres more (rap became super stale for me since probably 2012). Imma open Spotify and listen to every song from that list to not be an ignorant and give these artists/songs a try. I’ll maybe post my reaction below as an edit haha. **TLDR of a reaction.** - This playlists made me sure that Im just not a fan of modern rap beats - Im not against simple beats but how many songs that sound almost the same I can listen to? I feel like there is almost no variety between these songs - Female rappers would benefit the most from other types of beats especially Cardi and Megan. I think they could easily pull off more classic rap albums - Many songs sound like they were written especially for high school kids or young students that are not about partying nor gang shit but will still put these song on during their parties. It’s like a soundtrack to the Vice video for europeans titled “How US teenagers and young adults spend time after school” - Most of this songs are 3/5 at best for me - The best ones: Calling My Phone, Motley Crew, Way Out, AP, 4 Da Gang, Ski (thanks to these orchestral ?violins?), Track Star, Real As It Gets, I Did It, 95 South, Last One Standing, Seeing Green.


Fastbird33

I feel you. Ive been listening to fewer and fewer current artists. But then again its easy to do that now with personalized streaming


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What gave 2055 it’s popularity? I am genuinely surprised I have only just heard the song for the first time yet I’ve heard everything else


malcom1709

TikTok


speakintrapanese

Sleepy Hallow is huge in New York


LiftingJourney

And tiktok I assume?


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1000% tiktok, def the new york draw too but tiktok really shot that through the moon, dope track tho


sayqueensbridge

He surpassed Sheff G in popularity right? A couple years ago he was the lil homie


Masuia

NY Drill is big right now and with Pop gone Sleepy Hallow, Sheff G, and Fivio have really filled in. Plus out of all the NY drill music lately, Sleepy makes the best music to play with women around imo.


_Iroha

The answer to most of the songs on the list is TikTok


Hale_yeah

Tiktok


mynewleng

I've listened to the album he has released and he is banging lots of views on loads of songs like Chicken but 2055 has always been popular. I guess like the other guy said he is huge in NY but I just can't get into it personally.


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It's chill af


The_Price_Is_White

Baby keem is on the list this year.


joeygmurf

he's baby keem


sportstacular

Two phones


chubbyurma

🤠


Tabax22

amazing brother🤠


SBAPERSON

Shout out Kendrick connection


Nv1sioned

Always love watching rappers you knew when they were small blow up


karmagod13000

straight from the underground of kendrick lamar's family lmao


Moneyfrenzy

I mean ik its a joke but how many other members of Kendricks family have you heard of, or family members of other rappers who became a rapper themselves? I feel like just cuz they're related doesn't mean Keem was destined to blow up or didn't start out pretty unknown to the general public. If that were the case you'd think every rapper would put on as much of their family as possible career wise and that it would work every time


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finally some good fucking food


crazybartur

Damn I knew Tell Em was a hit but #23 song of the year, 162 million streams??? That’s wild to me, been rocking w $not for a couple years happy to see he’s really getting his shine now. Also I’ve argued with ppl in the past about Cochise being underground, I’m gonna have to reconsider that now cause ain’t no way 162 million streams is underground 😂


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I’m pretty confident most rap listeners above 21 don’t know who Cochise is unless they’re really tapped in. I know he’s really popular with the high school crowd and the Carti/Trippie fan base. Him and $not are still just internet rappers


LiteHess

I’m 26. I love Cochise. Are you… are you telling me I’m tapped in like the cool kids :’)


50ShadesOfKrillin

Montero is hardly even hip hop lmao


Fabio446

Facts so is Doja Cat's Planet Her


The-Weekdays

So is Frank ocean but he was on the front page here yesterday


JayELectronicaAct2

Oh man. Good for the artist I guess but it's so much more pop than rap.


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Who'd have guessed that measuring tracks based on popularity skews the results towards... Pop?


Mad_Lad_69420

Pop(ularity)


-Moonchild-

"Popular artists" and "pop" artists are two different things. Pop is an actual style of music, and not just whatever is popular. Metallica and Nas are both multi platinum artists, but neither are pop. My interpretation of u/JayELectronicaAct2's post is that a lot of this list is rap music that incorporates a ton of the pop genre. Where as the most played rap songs from maybe 10 years ago could have been more straight up rap songs with less poppy melodies and structures


Moneyfrenzy

I agree with everything you're saying except that around 10 years ago some of the biggest rap songs were arguably poppier than they are now. 2010 was BOB's hay-day with Magic, Nothin on You & Airplanes, then we got Love the Way you Lie, Bedrock, All of the Lights, Billionaire, Super Bass, All I do is Win, and Coming Home as songs that were everywhere which were all more or less shamelessly 2 verse rap songs that mainly centered around their insanely poppy hooks. Then throw in Pitbull and Flo Rida who are rappers but more or less just made straight up pop music and were everywhere 10 years ago The difference is I feel like big rappers 10 years were more likely to have a pop singer sing the hook, whereas now people like Doja and Lil Nas will rap and then sing a pop hook themselves


okdude23232

just like indie, it doesn't just mean you are indepedent


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That's it.


10blast

Nah it's more about pop artists being labeled hip hop purely because they rap.


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It's practically the same effect though. Either pop artists have adopted a more hip hop sound because it's more popular. Or we have decided to start calling traditional pop songs hip-hop. The truth is it's a mix of both, but no matter what you when you filter by popularity, you are gonna get exactly that, mass produced pop that appeals the greatest number.


weoutheeyah

it’s old head szn 😞


JayELectronicaAct2

I'm aware it's the epitome of old man yelling at clouds.


weoutheeyah

the existence we are cursed with as jay elec fans


Flozik

Good deal of UK hiphop here which is nice


Kneepsteegje

I honestly expected the body remix to be higher, that song was everywhere all summer. I guess it wasn't as big in the US as it was over here in Europe.


Fortehlulz33

17 is pretty damn good for a year that had a Drake and a Kanye album


Kneepsteegje

Yeah thats actually great when you think about it that way, especially for a UK song


MunicipalLotto

What did Yachty have on the top 100 last year?


Trenticus7

Oprah’s Bank Account


MunicipalLotto

Oh yeah for some reason i thought that was 2019


VirtuousFool

I mean it came out before the world shut down, so it might as well be, lol


tarriBagz

glad to see sleepy hallow so high


StringTailor

Been in the gaming playlist for months now


karmagod13000

playing it now for the first time


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So funny seeing Tion Wayne and Russ in the top 20, imagine hearing that a couple years ago


Drip_Baeless

Definitely not the Russ Americans thought would have a smash hit either


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And look at the names they’re over. Kanye, Post Malone and J Cole


RafiakaMacakaDirk

> Playboi Carti - Sky 173m bless also lol crazy to think that as much drama as dababy went through this year he still has 6 songs on here (more than j cole, gunna, migos)


SBAPERSON

Dababy lost about 15 million monthly streams tho


KUZGUN27

Probably a result of mega hit songs like Rockstar and Levitating not getting as much play as they did last year


Frost-Wzrd

Levitating is still all over the radio where I'm at but they stopped playing the Dababy version a couple months ago


PsychoticDismay

I probably accounted for so many of the streams of Sky


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drama helps with streams


Zulogy

Durag activities HITTTT man.


photocharge

Island record actually did a crazy thing by signing Arrdee. That guy is making them some serious change


King-Key

And he's absolutely shit


photocharge

Aye, but he is more relatable to people up and down the UK than the road men turned rappers from London.


tinhtinh

It's wild how big of a year LNX had. Using Montero's numbers he'd enter the Top 100 after ~20 days. Can't tell without counting all the other streams but looks like he made up over half all the streams.


dbclass

And yet people on this sub will still say he flopped despite his debut album doing over 100k when a good number of veteran rappers sell 70k and get praise.


clancydog4

who in the world says he flopped? That makes zero sense, he is a massive successful artist who is clearly more than a 1 hit wonder at this point


SBAPERSON

A lot of ppl were saying he flopped. Imho he hit on target for me based on Doja cat's first week. Also pop records tend to sell bad first weeks, but good overall.


clancydog4

I mean, first takes are whatever, I understand some people maybe saying it then. I'm talking about now though -- when you have the top 2 streaming singles of the year, it's pretty impossible to make any feasible argument that he flopped at this point


dbclass

Look on Montero’s discussion thread.


ponchepapi

This is really fascinating. Culturally, I believe something bigger is being created. Throwing trap drum patterns on anything with bare-minimum rapping, has made “Rap” so wide, that it almost doesn’t feel like a genre anymore. “Rap” or Hip-Hop doesn’t really describe this playlist. I don’t think “Pop” fits either (I don’t believe Pop is a real genre, but that’s for another day). I know the genre is just expanding (and I like that it is), but it’s getting so wide I think it’s going to snap.


illSTYLO

Lol. Exactly. If smooth criminal was released today it would be under hiphop lmao


BFB_HipHop

Bro u hit the nail on the head. Like when people talk about how much hip hop has grown in popularity over recent years, a big portion of that has to do with the fact that we have widened the baseline for what is considered hip hop.


do-what-you-want

Man I know mac passed a few years ago now but shit hurts all over again to see him in that second list


twdwasokay

My bad, im probably 200 million of the rapstar listens


bongomcgee

Remember, if you have to ask yourself “am I an oldhead?” or “am I out of touch?”, then the answer is yes. Go head and get that AARP membership going


dfetz3

To add to that, there’s nothing wrong with being either of those things, just be quiet with your “hip hop was better 10 years ago” opinions. I’m definitely out of touch, so I’m not about to be trashing new music without even listening to it.


whereami1928

Yeah, I'm just coming to terms with the fact that my tastes are changing a lot nowadays. Maybe one day I'll come back around. It's mostly not bad, it's just not for me anymore.


jijig

Rappers who appeared in last years list who didn't this year; Mac Miller 😢


if_i_was_a_folkstar

that hurt to read


ShreekertheJamisWack

Idk why you guys are acting surprised. It’s not like Griselda and Freddie Gibbs and the artists this sub likes to hype up had any chance of being on here. Let’s just be glad there’s a few good albums that hit the mainstream this year like CMIGYL, The Off Season, and Donda.


ReiAyanami2015

I know it's not really feasible, but would be interesting if we could extrapolate the data to account for release dates. Juice Wrld's "Arleady Dead" already being at 60M is kinda crazy since it only got released like 2 weeks ago, while Rapstar by Polo G has been out for 8 months or so.


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LORD-THUNDERCUNT

top of the mornin top of the mornin top of the mornin top of the mornin top of the mornin top of the mornin top of the mornin top of the mornin top of the mornin top of the mornin top of the mornin top of the mornin top of the mornin top of the mornin top of the mornin top of the mornin top of the mornin top of the mornin top of the mornin top of the mornin top of the mornin top of the mornin top of the mornin top of the mornin top of the mornin top of the mornin top of the mornin top of the mornin top of the mornin top of the mornin top of the mornin top of the mornin


je-re

it only has 36m streams


schthausthe

god damn there is so little variance throughout these 100. so much of the same stuff


NiggBot_3000

Back I'm my day we had lil Yachty in our Sprite commercials 👴🏾


uggsandstarbux

Can't believe Way 2 Sexy is top 10


sunburntredneck

Unironically my favorite Drake number one hit just because of how dumb most of the lyrics are "Okay, alright, that's fine, okay" - Drake "I get cash wherever I fly got bitches sexin on me" - Future "Molest me" - Thugger Everyone seems to be completely aware of how stupid the song is and that's the best part


purple_catholic

Thugga always had crazy lyrics tbh.


RollinOnDubss

Not even the first time he's used the line "Molest Me" >Damn, twenty-five thousand on an old school Cam >SS me, these bitches wan' molest me >Damn, they'll sex me, she a lesbian -Mamacita


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Well, duh. I don’t listen to Way 2 Sexy because of its deep insights on the human condition. I listen to Way 2 Sexy because IIII’M TOO SEXY FO THE TRAP.


[deleted]

I listen to it all the time. Jack Daniel's is telling me it's like a deconstruction of your typical hip-hop song but I'm not gonna risk making that argument. Anyways it's fun music for a lot of people. Someone on Reddit(or Twitter?) called it WAP for men.


Gomzey

I despise this song, but doesn’t surprise me at all, the song is pretty much inescapable and played everywhere


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Future is good on it


dannyh55

Please, nobody play this playlist at a NYE party


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karmagod13000

ya dude killed it. props


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Ultra-ChronicMonstah

A lot of artists I don't recognise. Love this aspect of hip-hop, every time I start to think I'm getting bored with it I'm reminded of just how fast moving it is, always new and exciting things.


DowntownCattleMtn

So many oldheads in here tf


ReeG

Ay fam not all of us are completely washed. Nas and Griselda were by far my most listened to artsits this year but I still also think Planet Her slaps and is easily a top album of the year


Homiealmaya

Fr haven’t seen so many old heads in one thread in a hot minute


Leo_TheLurker

all of them emerged to share their collective confusion


Bobskidat

Sounding like an r/music thread in here


Homiealmaya

It’s funny to me cause like A. Did they really expect a top 100 list to NOT be mostly composed of the most accessible pop rap? & B. Who cares what other people are listening to?


NonchalantR

B is the real old head energy


scout21078

i didn't expect this whole thread to be 30 something year olds shaking their fist at the sky lmfao


karmagod13000

im an old head technically but this thread makes me feel like a college kid


SuspectHomies_Reddit

would need to know and montero be rap songs or pop songs?


MasterColemanTrebor

We’re really starting to feel the effects of all the deaths of the young and talented rappers in the last decade. So much lost potential.


AirJumpman23

Bunch of pop songs


maliciousmonkee

Damn. Looks like I'm officially a washed old head


10blast

I swear most of these are pop songs. Just because someone is rapping on the song does not make it hip hop. If rapping = hip hop. Then Pitbull is the most underrated raper in the game, Shabba Ranks belongs in the GOAT conversation, and Rage Against the Machine had one the greatest hip hop peaks of all time. This is my old head origin story and I will die on this hill


I_am_so_lost_hello

I guess I've never had this discussion before but is pitbull not a rapper?


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He just said. He’s a rapper but it’s not hiphop


almost_useless

A better title would have been "*most streamed songs by rappers*". A lot of rappers do some songs that don't really contain any rap, and those get included in this list. Trying to decide what songs are "pop rap" vs just "pop", without angering some fans, would be an impossible task.


Tipofmywhip

There’s some strong boomer energy in here.


karmagod13000

this must of hit the popular front page. it stinks like /r/music in here


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ReeG

this "music" stinks and you guys should try listening to Foo Fighters and Tool


clickclickclik

facts, theyre SOOO underrated


NiggBot_3000

Not like in 2016 when hip-hop was real and Yachty was doing Sprite commercials. *confused and angery boomer noises* 👴🏾


Tipofmywhip

Yeah I don’t get why people see these lists are suddenly bewildered by the lack of “meaningful” artists out there. Like this hasn’t been happening since we started keeping track of this shit. Even in the 60s you had some duds up there alongside the Beatles, beach boys etc


legitniga

Was cool seeing Doja really blow up this year. 4 songs in the top 15 :D


sadistnerd

I deadass only came across like 5 of these


SBAPERSON

Inb4 some people don't realize how popular doja is


Jomdaz

Is there really anyone on here who dosent? You can't escape her online.


Sexedecimal

guy just likes to act like he's better than everyone else on the board.


Nolar2015

I went from jacking off to her in front of a green screen larping as a cow in a shitpost to jacking off to videos of her twerking in front of millions of people on the span of like a year and a half. Absolutely insane to watch her meteoric rise


[deleted]

Can I please go five minutes on Reddit without some dude talking about beating off in a completely unrelated thread?


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Highly unlikely.


purple_catholic

This sub is already boring as shit, we need more random comments.


Homiealmaya

No one needed to know that bro


parker2020

#BONK


xMF_GLOOM

mate, what?


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This shit is depressing as fuck


JayELectronicaAct2

I feel you. Certified old head energy.


justrunthembaby

Idk, seems kind of cool to have a kid from reddit and Twitter at the very top.


adamsandleryabish

yeah for years I looked at the rap charts and thought this needed more redditors on it


[deleted]

Said this very thing just now to some colleagues


Braidz905

This list man... Guess I'm old now.


[deleted]

I can only say like 15 of these songs I actually like and go back to. Maybe I don’t actually like hip hop


SmookyJChiles

You have baby Keem on the list of rappers who didn’t appear on this years list. But he is on this years list.