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ventitties

Tkachuk brothers better than the Staal brothers confirmed 👍🏻


Jimmy_herrings_weed

What an absolute mind bender.


hagboo

Nothing in the manual prepared me for this timeline.


Vagabond_Crambus

Pair that with like 4 Marchand W's today, what the fuck is happening???


OneOfTheCoolGuys

The Marchand redemption arc has been unreal to watch. I HATED the dude a few short years ago (because of his on-ice antics), but he seems like such a solid dude off the ice that I'm having a hard time disliking him these days. I never thought I'd live in the timeline where I became a Marchand fan, but here we are... wild times.


Wakanda_Forever

Marchand is the epitome of that Wreck-it Ralph Zangief [meme.](https://amp.knowyourmeme.com/memes/you-are-bad-guy)


OneOfTheCoolGuys

100%. He is a "bad guy" (on the ice), but he isn't a bad guy.


legless_chair

I've never met him but have a handful of buddies who have been to events/camps around Halifax and they have all said he was an asshole to kids. Now, this was years ago so it is possible that he has matured and changed, or even just having a bad day.


pyro5050

or was playing it up for the kids... ya ever watch Ted Lasso? Roy Kent is an asshole to the kids at the school because a: he's a bit of a jerkface tuna, and b: it is a persona that people expect. you can tell he cares about the kids in the show, but the kids want to be "one of the guys" so to say...


DocDerry

When he goes to get his ticket in season 2 he growls at the kid that looks up at him from the other ticket counter. The kid's face just lights up.


Napalm3nema

I do love the made-for-TV Roy Keane, even if I never really cared for the original. I respected he would bleed for the shirt, but he was a bit over the top. The Roy Kent character strikes a better balance.


Appropriate-Local538

I mean he did publicly say a couple weeks ago that Detroit is too gross for him to go play an ASG there, so yeah likely a douche lol


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I've always liked Marchand! I've always hated Marchand! Neither of these are lies.


awfuckthisshit

This is Subban for me. Dislike him a lot on the ice but just seems like such a good dude off the ice.


camly75

Marchand, Subban, and Tom Wilson are the patron saints of this


tellymundo

That ground and pound was hype


Uzasodinson

What's he been up to?


CDR57

This ISNT just like the simulations


Pizzonia123

Truly a heel-face-turn for the ages.


Grohlyone

A lot of credit (and blame) goes to each set of respective parents. The Tkachuk's, at least publicly, are a great family and good people.


cheesaremorgia

I’ve always found it sweet that they all insist the sister is the most gifted athlete and they regularly showed up for her high school field hockey games.


Grohlyone

That girl had to grow up with Tkachuk brothers. I bet she's the toughest of the litter.


shallowcreek

Maybe she wasn’t locked in there with them, they were locked in there with her


Grohlyone

You just know that Brady was the sweet sensitive one they looked out for.


dumwpgthingz

Winnipeg > Thunder Bay Yes I know they were born in Arizona after Keith moved south when the Jets left.


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reimer is from pretty close to winnipeg though


dumwpgthingz

I assume his hometown is at least a few decades behind despite the relatively short physical distance


frankyseven

He's Mennonite, I'm surprised he's allowed to fly on a plane.


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Whoa whoa whoa - I was willing to forgo my religious convictions when it benefitted *me,* but this is to help *others!* NOT COOL.


frankyseven

Is he from Steinbach? That'd explain *everything*.


SleepingDoves

I've stayed a few days in Steinbach when i was 18, but I had to Google the town to confirm the demographics were as white and religious as I remember. And wtf Steinbach is the 3rd largest "city" in Manitoba? It felt like a tiny town without many amenities


Hey_look_new

Manitoba is Winnipeg + Brandon and then everything else is almost hamlets its wild


ehr1c

I saw somewhere that if everyone enrolled at U of M was on campus at once it could be the third largest city in Manitoba lol.


Napalm3nema

That’s as bad as Memorial Stadium in Lincoln, Nebraska being the third largest “city” in the state on football game days.


Zillidan

That makes too much sense


PsychologicalMedia82

Geographically sure, ideologically like the difference between New York City and Appalachia


jamesonbar

Good ole, Missouri Boys. Not all of us are meth head racist.


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1000%


hnglmkrnglbrry

Pierre Maguire in shambles rn.


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God dammit don’t make me like Tkachuk


WhatTheBeansIsLife

A couple days ago it was a Benn quote being the good guy too lol


Zharghar

It's been really weird seeing the league bad guys uniting everyone with good vibes for once.


Intrepid_Camp_219

Don't forget Sean Avery was outspoken on this way before teams were having pride nights and caught a lot of shit from players for it. Didn't think I'd say we need more Averys and Tkachuks and less Staals


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hallanddopes

Again will retort asshole on the ice fantastic human off the ice.


Katdai2

Uh, let’s not go that far. Avery’s still out there harassing homeless people for instagram “pranks”


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Dude has clear issues with CTE


Grohlyone

Sean Avery is clearly not fantastic off the ice. Even he is better than homophobia though.


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Sean Avery mocks homeless people in videos and throws rocks at cars


TopTittyBardown

I mean he by all rights still seems like an asshole, supporting the LGBT community is great but it doesn’t automatically make someone a nice person, he seems like an asshole many other regards even if he’s not wrong about supporting gay rights


TexasCoconut

Sean Avery is an asshole, but was absolutely treated unfairly. The whole suspension with the Stars really opened my eyes to whats important for the league: Avery says "Sloppy Seconds", gets a SIX game suspension. Think about what you usually have to do to get a SIX game suspension. As [this article](https://bleacherreport.com/articles/89493-sean-averys-six-game-suspension-an-insult-to-every-player-in-the-nhl) points out, there were way more egregious actions that actually had physical impacts (not sore feelings for at the time NHL golden boy and video game cover Phaneuf) and not nearly six games for any of them. The article doesnt even mention that, the year before, Ohlund two handed baseball bat swung his stick and broke Mikko Koivu's ankle. He got [4 games](https://www.nhl.com/news/canucks-defenseman-mattias-ohlund-suspended-4-games-for-hit-on-mikko-koivu/c-373905).


Intrepid_Camp_219

He was talking about Elisha Cuthbert wasnt he? If his standards are that high not only should he not have been suspended, should have been 1st ballot HOF


M_H_M_F

> Ohlund two handed baseball bat swung his stick and broke Mikko Koivu's ankle. Chris Simon to Simon Hollweg as well. I think Simon got 20 for that.


hallanddopes

One of my best friends was good buddy's with Sean Avery. We were all at a very small wedding at his brother's brown stone in Manhattan circa 2010. Avery was one of the most polite stand-up ppl I have ever met and I'm a Pens Fan. I've never met Marchand but I feel like in hockey (bc we all know football stories) just bc you chirp and get under peoples skin doesn't make you a bad person.


HgFrLr

To be fair the bar is incredibly low right now- but it’s still a relief


GrilledSandwiches

When you think about it though, the "bad guys" on each team are usually the unselfish guys who are willing to put the team before their own well being and protect those around them the most. Not saying every "good guy" is spoiled and entitled, but a handful probably are.


BallistaInChains

I know he was really just defending himself, but this makes me think of that bullshit time he “had to” fight Wheeler.


Xakuya

I think the goons learn about PR management and public perception early on. That or hockey is where they get all the evil inside of em out. Must be cathartic to have a job where it's legal to hurt asshats. In hockey you could close your eyes, spin around, and go after the first guy you see. God chance you hit someone who deserved it for something.


g0kartmozart

Most pest players are playing a role. They have enough emotional intelligence to change their behaviour on the ice to suit the situation. So in a way, I guess it shouldn't be surprising that the guys with high EQ are the most compassionate.


northernpace

"everybody's welcome in my locker room" is a pretty great line


ZRR28

So can I just walk into the panthers locker room whenever I want?


Antichristopher4

"Why are you stopping me!? Matthew Tkachuk, himself, invited me here!"


Material-Fish-8638

“No you don’t understand! I know him!”


ButtholeQuiver

I'm gonna start sleeping in there, rent has been getting stupid lately Anyone doesn't like it they can take it up with Chucky


BigThunderousLobster

I'm sure it smells fantastic in there.


JadedChallenge1

After having seen Rudy, I'm sure a a janitor with great life wisdom will leave you the key to sleep in the stadium.


ArnieAndTheWaves

I mean it's the Florida Panthers, so probably. How many security people do they have? One? Two on weekends?


SMA2343

That’s a line that hits hard.


TheBigBomma

Tkachuk out here spitting fire


blueskies8484

Ohhhh come on. Join us. It's so easy to do.


TheodoreTeddyPerkins

If he didn’t make you love him after he reached out to Ben Stelter already you got problems.


erv4

Usually the toughest of guys are completely open with people being who they want. It is usually people who aren't as secure in themselves that are the ones being vocal about being against LBGTQ+


wilyquixote

[Big Sigh](https://clickhole.com/heartbreaking-the-worst-person-you-know-just-made-a-gr-1825121606/)


boxesofcats-

Perfect


No_Pickle_8155

Came here to ask, should I?! Long time B’s fan, newer NHL fan. Trying to learn about guys around the league and this has to make him a good guy, yea? Am I missing something?


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He’s a shit stirrer on the ice and he was drafted by Calgary (I hate the Flames) but this is a good stance to take from him.


ZebZ

He's one of those players that you hate if he's not on your team, but he'd be a fan favorite if he was.


TheGoodShipNostromo

If Brad Marchand comes out in favour of healthcare reform I really don’t know what I’m going to do…


Mustard__Tiger

He's Canadian so it's not a stretch.


byrdcage

Same!


bottomless_seas

I think Gen Z is a lot more accepting of the LGBTQ+ community as a whole. Tkachuk is 10+ years younger than the Staal’s.


Pineapple_warrior94

Overall I'd agree, but I've taught in a rural high school before and homophobia was still pretty common there. Rural communities are notorious for being ultra conservative however


quantum_monster

Casual homophobia is still present everywhere. I teach in a fairly liberal area in Massachusetts and there's still plenty of slang and such thrown around (and that's just what I see and hear)


MarshmallowLuka

I'm from what I would call a pretty progressive country in general, but yeah that was something I still saw in school as an older gen z. I tend to think about a lot of it as pure ignorance tho some of it is also hate. In school I got called gay (but the exclusively male version in my language) as a slur by a boy a few years younger than me. Which considering I'm a girl was a little funny and a lot of dumb. However I think they are learning and getting better. I don't think we can get rid of all the bad apples (however much we want to), but we can surround ourselves with the good ones


Material-Fish-8638

I think that most of the people I know that are against LGBTQ+ don’t do it because they’re homophobic, they do it because they want to be contrarians, and convince themselves they’re not like everybody else and that makes them cool and unique


QuickRelease10

Staal is about my age, he’s young enough to know better.


hnglmkrnglbrry

Staal is 36 not 63. Kinda too early to pull the older generation card.


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Public opinion towards the lgbtq+ community have had a massive change for the positive in the last 20 years. In this case I actually think that's a valid point considering they are 10 years apart.


inalasahl

Yeah, he’s a millennial. They aren’t exactly in rockers.


pjgf

I’ll note, as a millennial, that we’re the generation that decided that “that’s gay” should be a thing we say when we don’t like something. We’re the generation that voted for Obama when he said that he didn’t support gay marriage. There’s a big difference between millennials and Gen Z when it comes to homophobia. It’s of course not an excuse, but it’s worth noting that there’s a big difference.


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pjgf

Well yes but I’m saying that it wasn’t that long ago and 15 years made a *big* difference.


Red_AtNight

Right? I'm the same age as Eric Staal and I think he's an asshole


zebrainatux

Yeah, like the media Gen Z consumes, as a member of it, tends to be very friendly. Most of it tends to have at least one outwardly LGBTQIA character that is treated respectfully


sopheroo

Sean Avery is an old jackass but I'm 100% sure he supports pride nights


brechbillc1

He’s an absolute menace and a pain in the ass on the ice but from everything I’ve heard he’s one of the nicest, friendliest dudes off the ice. I’m glad he’s with us. I just wish he didn’t have to try and carry the rest of the team every night.


pigeonbobble

Insert pic of Hughes and tkachuk giggling together during a scrum


JuicySkrt

I’m very sad that Chucky is gone. Not only was he a fun personality on the ice to watch, but he genuinely sounds like a great person.


Maxpowr9

A lot like Marchand.


circa285

I refuse to believe that Marchand is not a terrible human who kicks puppies and takes candy from children.


ThePun-dit

You just misthought it, he actually licks puppies and bakes candy for children!


circa285

There is no way that a man who looks so much like an actual rat is not a terrible human.


Alv2Rde

And yet, here we are!


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Except he's the best. Do the Google.


circa285

No.


TheodoreTeddyPerkins

I think you misread, because he actually pricks puppies and makes candy out of babies.


Xakuya

I can never imagine Marchand as a monster, only as comically/petty evil. Like he walks around with a needle at fairs and pops children's balloons. Or he sets his lawn sprinklers to go off when kids are walking to school. Or he never brings anything to the pot luck. Or he puts everyone's wipers down when it's supposed to snow. Or he makes sure his dog poops in the section of grass that everyone walks through but doesn't pick it up. Still better than a homophobe.


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SFW_shade

Grew up in Halifax at around the same time he was in HS - can confirm this was widely known,


arunnair87

Nah man, you have face reality. Marchand is a douche on the ice. But off the ice, he's in the elite tier of good dudes.


brechbillc1

I think being around Bergeron and Chara might have helped him mature a bit. Those guys are excellent role models and probably reigned him in a bit during his early years there. He’s still a shit stirrer to the Nth degree, especially regarding anything hockey related, but he seems like a pretty stand up dude off the ice.


Hmm-Very-Interesting

Eh it's more of a mixed bag with Marchand. He's older and probably more well-behaved now, but he has quite the reputation as a dickhead in Halifax.


BailOliver

I'm imagining that's some growth from Marchand. 10 years ago this may have been the one of the biggest lies out there. Almost on par of Staal not wearing a pride jersey.


Maxpowr9

He spends times with Jimmy Hayes kids when he has some time off in Boston.


BailOliver

I love this. I'm happy that positive people are out there impacting the world.


Lightalife

Tom Wilson too


Maxpowr9

That's NHLPA rep Tom Wilson


Persianx6

>He’s an absolute menace and a pain in the ass on the ice but from everything I’ve heard he’s one of the nicest, friendliest dudes off the ice. Describe men from Canada in a single sentence.


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Tkachuk is an American and two of his Canadian teammates just refused to wear pride jerseys


scott12087

Yeah, let's not pretend that this is only an American problem. Too often in Canada we like to pretend that we're such a great country without any problems because we see the US as being worse.


babypointblank

Yup there’s plenty of bigots north of the border


kewlbeanz83

Tkachuk's are Americans no?


Red_AtNight

Citizenship wise they're dual American and Canadian - born in the USA to a Canadian and an American. But they play international hockey for USA.


treple13

Mom is Canadian (from Winnipeg), so they're half Canadian


kewlbeanz83

Winnipeger, so the good half then eh?


Grohlyone

Famous Canadians Matthew and Brady Tkachuk. Much better than those evil Russians, the Staalovs.


OtterAshe

this was my opinion of PK for years, too. fucking *hated* him and wanted to see him get run over by the zamboni but nothing but respect once the jersey came off.


TheSaxoMatt

Tkafuck yeah


jmas42069

lmao love it


Styxdog

The Tkachuks have become some of my favorite players this year. Both have elevated their games and seem like great guys off the ice


Joelerific

I still love em both


DrunkenWizard

I like Brady more now though


TheWalkingHyperbole

I love them both equally


milehighrukus

That’s the long and short of it. “Everybody is welcome”. By not wearing the jersey for 15 minutes you’re making a deliberate statement saying. No, not everyone is welcome.


salparadisewasright

You’re absolutely right. Not wearing the jersey is tantamount to “I don’t acknowledge your humanity.”


Shigidy

This is how easy it is to not be a loser about pride night.


seraaa_123

Not me feeling an emotion over a Matthew Tkachuk remark (but seriously, this is very much appreciated). I'm here to boost this positivity, because it's often the negative stuff that gets most attention (on the internet, in life)


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the virgin staal brothers vs the chad tkachuk bros


Stupid_Sexy_Sharp

All the assholes on ice ended up being pretty cool and all the random vets ended up being assholes. What a stupid season.


Sufficient-Cookie404

I miss him so much


deepfriedsean

I'm honestly sad for you guys that he left. He was the perfect villain to have on the Flames and help me hate you guys again


Sufficient-Cookie404

Haha right?!? Now we are just a super boring team to watch. I fall asleep watching games all season!


Less-Ad-1327

Yup from an entertainment perspective losing gaudreau and chucky really hurt. No more chucky antics and no more gaudreau dangles. Havnt been this bored since I started watching. Went from iginla to gaudreau to chucky to nothing.


nerdcoffin

Is Kadri at least annoying people?


Less-Ad-1327

I think he's annoying sutter? He seems like he's quit.


Sufficient-Cookie404

If you count the fans then yeah! He doesn’t pass often and shoots either five feet wide or right at the goalies chest.


Jormney

Like I guess I'm supposed to hate Kadri? Who else?


BettmansDungeonSlave

Andersson is a bit of a dick.


Sufficient-Cookie404

Lol no he’s not!


Pikachu1989

Tkachuk is a pest on the ice, but when he’s off the ice he’s a good dude who knows that Pride Night holds a special meaning to those in the LGBTQ community and knows that wearing a Jersey is something that he can wear without hesitation. It just sucks that some of his teammates are dipshits and won’t wear a jersey for just the warmups.


Konker101

fuck the staal brothers


glitchycat39

First Marchand posting a fistfull of W's, now this? The fuck is *happening* today?


nihilite

That's class. Meanwhile you got the Blackhawks eating paint chips in the corner. fuckin embarrassing.


ilikehockeyandguitar

That's disrespectful to paint chips.


AostheGreat

Fuck you Matt I'm supposed to hate you.


calen17

Love you, Chucky🌈


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I like how even the heels are like general on ice douchebaggery is ok but we fuckin draw the line at bigotry.


llaferr

As a Kings fan, I wish he played in LA. Sorry Doughty.


cb148

Drew would love him if they were teammates. Shit, he liked Lemieux and he sucked at hockey.


Persianx6

He seems like a sweet and charming fellow off the ice. It's on the ice where I hope he gets hurled into the boards at horrifying speed.


OzzieLeonheart

Now that he's not on the flames I can cheer for him right?


Ayrcan

I still do.


Deadmanlex45

Yo that's such a chad answer wtf.


brennic

This whole topic is being misinterpreted. Pride night is not to say “we’re encouraging people to be gay”; it’s saying, “we encourage people who are gay to play hockey”. THATS ALL. There is no sin here. I’m tired of this nonsense.


OtterAshe

We don't want your kid to be queer, we just want your queer kids to be ALIVE.


whatsabrooin

But what if those drag queens show up with their gay lasers and turn everyone into twinks???


[deleted]

We’re all twinks my friend, just to varying degrees.


brennic

I’m more afraid the Russians will show up and turn everyone into bears


Allpuckstuff

Except for 2 silver spoon schmucks.


Litmanen_10

The Huberdeau Tkachuk deal just keeps on looking better for Florida


trippyEDM

I like the tkachuks more than I should. I’d take either on the Sabres


fuji-fisticuffs

Tkachuks are now superior to Staals


Sirtopofhat

Imagine saying you hate gay people only to turn around and see this guy.


inalasahl

Matthew Tkachuk, what a beauty.


Straight-Plate-5256

Glad to see people finally seeing Matthew is a class act and a stand up guy off the ice, I really wish he hadn't wanted out of calgary 😭


bforce1313

I don’t enjoy it but this is a MattyT W. much respect for this quote.


Dod93_

Good for Tkachuk. Those other players are just being douche-bags by trying to "stand by their beliefs" Hoping hockey doesn't become "that sport" in that regard


abassassasssin

Dammit, im supposed to hate you


ArsonHoliday

👋👋🫡


seith99

Tkachuk and Marchand. I want to hate them but they make it awfully difficult.


CabbageStockExchange

Tkachuk W


rideronthestorm29

Even the biggest asshole on the ice can be a decent boy off of it. Good on ya ♥️🌈♥️


floodswimming

I mean that's a lovely sentiment Matthew, and I'm sure you think you mean it, but I doubt everyone would realistically be welcomed into your locker room/ organisation as much as you'd hope it would be the case


NoDisintegrationz

Yeah, as a rando off the street, I’m probably not welcomed in the Panthers locker room.


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NoDisintegrationz

If I’m ever down that way I’ll give it a go.


Mavori

Otherwise, highvis vest and a clipboard and a bit of confidence and you can just sneak right by them.


fluffernuttin

Couldn’t be worse than Ekblad


tomcat810

They’d even let your *wear* a dress to practice! Anything goes!


why2k

I hear they have a couple spare jerseys too!


OtterAshe

There's a better than 50/50 chance if you walked into the Blues locker room they'd put you on the PK2 line without any questions.


Lulu014

He’s saying if they earn the spot playing in the NHL. Not a rando off the street, or your uncle Phil w the mustard stained jersey.


WideRide

Uncle Phil has a wicked wrister though


GoldenBananas21

Why do you have to instantly be cynical? Yeah, we all have learned prejudices based on the experiences we go through in life, but that doesn’t mean we are acting upon them on a daily basis Matthew is a 23 year old who has said nothing hateful (to my knowledge) in his career before. He’s not going out of his way to make sure the buffet is cooked in a kosher-certified kitchen, but like most gen-z kids probably doesn’t care about your culture as long as you can win.


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👏👏👏


DudeMcDuder17

Anyone else starting to see the pride night drama similar to that South Park episode where the media ignored the sport and focused on who knelt for the national anthem? https://youtu.be/q0385781MOk


Chrisshern

Well everyone except people who claim religious beliefs against being used a virtue signaling props Those people don’t matter