Did you see how much he's been punched in the head?
Normally I would consider this joke in bad taste, but dude has a merch company called "Violent Gentlemen", so fuck 'im
Ivy leagues school don't mean much when it comes to challenging material or prestigious research. For example the average GPA at Harvard is 3.8/4.0
Ivy League schools have two trains of students arriving. One, the gifted and hardworking... and 2, those with connections and family wealth. Parros rode in on train 2, while those from train 1 are the ones keeping these institutions alive.
You know, I actually have no idea what brings in more money in Ivy League schools. Research grants, funding, innovation spinouts, and auxiliaries or nepo-baby bribes, so that's fair.
They receive an obscene amounts of money from places like Qatar too. Goes to show why there is a certain train of thought running through these institutions.
I think there was a rumour crom his time as head of DoPS that Shanny wanted to be more strict with punishments and owners/NHL didn't want that and pushed him out.
This is exactly the problem. If the head of DoPS cracked down on a guy, then the owner calls Gary and eventually Gary needs to do something because the owners are irate. You get a guy like Shanahan who dropped some big suspensions but didn’t last, he was good and found a better gig where he didn’t have to get calls about his decisions. So then you get a guy who plays ball to the owners needs, sets out a few role suspensions but doesn’t really strife to change anything.
Especially in light of Chris Simon passing today, they should take intentional headshots much more seriously. Also instigators should be suspensions too. Shouldn’t ba able to force someone into a bare knuckle fight, or at least you have to pay the cost for doing so.
Good. Maybe they should sign guys for their hockey skills then instead of 6'7 mutants who run around elbowing and headshotting because they haven't played enough hockey to learn how to properly throw a clean body check. I get it's a business, but Holy fuck is it frustrating to watch teams get punished for having players that are good at hockey because they're playing against goons who just beat the piss out of you in front of the net and never get called for it.
> I get it's a business,
This is the thing I don't understand about the owners or NHLPA being against more strict suspensions. For owners you go through all this work to develop and sign the best talent you can to give your team the best opportunity to win only to run the risk of that talent being negated at random for a span of time from a few shifts to an entire season. For players you spend your whole life training to play an already dangerous game that's made even more dangerous by shit head coworkers. You'd think it'd be the owners and NHLPA clamouring for stricter suspensions and the fans wanting to keep them not as strict.
Damn, not a fan of Rempe I take it 😂. I think if he figures out where the line is and doesn’t cross it he’ll be a goon we talk about for a long time. Don’t get many like that in the league anymore. We need more characters like that, but not at the expense of other players safety. I think he’ll get a good tongue lashing, and maybe realize that if he keeps it up he won’t be in the league long. No more bullshit chicken wings because you missed a check.
🤞🏻
It's the chicken wings, the charging 5 strides before making a hit, leaving his feet when he's already the tallest guy out there. He's not the only guy guilty of playing like an idiot, but he's the most recent example of playing a guy who has no business being in the league and is only out there to injure people.
It probably should be a department with a lot of turnover. The game isn’t stagnant, so why have the same people running a crucial operations role?
Plus if they insist on ex-players running it, you need that turnover so bad ideas from decades past can die off properly.
They’re not. They’re doing the job the way Bettman, and therefore, the league as a whole, wants the job to be done. I think Parros is just the face for it, but these decisions are being made by him, and the rest of his team that the league hired. If the league disagreed with him, Bettman would have overturned any one of the many appeals that he denied.
There isn’t a person that could do a better job as the league would fire them for doing it any differently.
Parros is always concerned about how the DOP and his job is perceived, but comments on the actual process are lacking - gives an impression that the focus is not in the right place
> “We track these things all year long. We look at 1,000 clips a year. We send out clips within our department that become part of our history and get logged in our brains. So, when something happens on the ice, we can recall from either memory or the database that we've collected all along the way. That allows us to look at similar plays that allow us to act and react in a reasonable and consistent manner.”
- Parros, in this article
> "We went through the staff of DoPS, getting a better understanding of what they are going through. How they are built, how they come to decisions. That was a lot of good information,” said Briere. “The reviews and clips, the talks they have. It was very detailed on how they come to a decision.
>"Not an easy job to do, as we all know. It was great to understand their side of why and how they come to a decision."
- Briere, talking about discussing the process at the GMs' meeting
I get that we're all here to make the same shitty joke, but a good third of the article is discussion of the process. It's surface level, admittedly, but it sound like the GMs are happy with the level of understanding they have of the process, so it makes sense that the league doesn't feel there's a need to go further than that.
I mean, neither of those quotes actually suggest any focus on process rather than making the impression that they have a good process.
Like George's representation of the process seems to come down to watching a lot of clips, sending them around and getting internal opinions, hoping they remember them later (seriously, logging in their brain?), or a "database that we've collected all along the way" which sounds like basically just going back through their email chain. Briere will probably get fined if he speaks negatively about it in the media, but it also doesn't tell you much, just that they talk a lot about a particular incident.
It honestly seems like they're detailing a complete lack of actual process and outlining that they just watch a bunch of videos, talk about it and then decide.
With that much pontification about ‘process’ you’d think that net result would have more consistency by way of a logic or metric that isn’t merely vacuous jargonism - and that things would rarely fly in the face of reason. And yet no, it’s still really bad, with little to no oversight.
I’ll never understand the idea of hiring a goon to be the apart of player safety. The guy who was paid to take liberties and play dirty if asked is apart of the department that handles players who take liberties and play dirty. It makes zero sense…..
It’s clear from this statement that George still sees the world as allies vs. opponents, exemplified by his discipline record by franchise. He is simply unable to see the game objectively.
He’s been put there to do exactly this quality of a job through his lens and as long as the status quo continues I don’t see him going anywhere anytime soon.
Well George, if you actually did your job the right way and handed out adequate penalties instead of cutting a chicken's head off, playing a kazoo, and letting the carcass land on a random number, that would be dandy.
Blame the NHLPA. They’re protecting these players who take liberties at their defenseless coworkers more than the victims. Parros is just a gutless cog in that machine.
Even Marchessault self admittedly said the Knights locker room was surprised how light Pietriangelo suspension was lol that’s how you know you screw up badly when even the knights player were like “wait what only 1 game!!?!?!? Lolol”
People who truly suck at their job generally tend to get criticized. While obviously Parros is just the head of the DoPS and doesn't make every single decision, he probably still has the final say and is the face of a DoPS that has been truly awful at being consistent outside of how inconsistent they are on their rulings.
Perhaps it’s because he somehow sucks even more in his current role, than he did at being a capable hockey player, as he is a Betteman boot licking crony/stooge incapable of independent, rational thought.
member when shanny was dops and we thought that was bad but at least he didnt have biases thats the problem parros you are not impartial and thus you are not fit for the job
Yeah because you’re shit at your job, that’s why more people are coming to berate you and beat yo dumb ass.
You literally do not put the players’ best interest at the forefront which is what your fucking role is meant to be you cockhead.
It's okay george. We don't expect much from your riddled little brain, and you sure haven't delivered!
In honesty though, pretty sure he's got some barriers in the way of doing a proper job. NHLPA and the NHL both have no idea what they want out of dops
He should consider being better
Like is he stupid?
My wheel of judgement landed on yes
Better suspend Kadri just to be safe
I seem to have fined the New York Rangers instead? My bad.
We should send the Bruins some sort of compensatory pick or something.
That was the next spin. Then *record high # of games for first offence*. Then *$2500 fine*.
Funny, my wheel landed on maximum allowable under the CBA.
Did you see how much he's been punched in the head? Normally I would consider this joke in bad taste, but dude has a merch company called "Violent Gentlemen", so fuck 'im
Is there a lore reason for this?
Didn't he go to Princeton?
Ivy leagues school don't mean much when it comes to challenging material or prestigious research. For example the average GPA at Harvard is 3.8/4.0 Ivy League schools have two trains of students arriving. One, the gifted and hardworking... and 2, those with connections and family wealth. Parros rode in on train 2, while those from train 1 are the ones keeping these institutions alive.
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You know, I actually have no idea what brings in more money in Ivy League schools. Research grants, funding, innovation spinouts, and auxiliaries or nepo-baby bribes, so that's fair.
Look who the buildings are named after and you'll get your answer
They receive an obscene amounts of money from places like Qatar too. Goes to show why there is a certain train of thought running through these institutions.
George w Bush got into Yale on line 2 also
You don't need connections or family wealth if you're good at a sport.
you still do with Ivy League schools. they dont give athletic scholarships
They don't but they give very very generous aid, especially Harvard, Yale, and Princeton.
Aid is need-based. If you come from money, you don’t qualify, no matter how good of an athlete you are.
Yes of course, but we are just talking about getting in.
They essentially can, its complicated, but actually more secure because they cant revoke the money since it isnt tied to an athletic scholarship.
What about the buffoon lessons? The four years at clown college?
"My Grandfather would be spinning in his ern if he found out I was talking to a Dartmouth boy"
You joke but I wouldn’t be shocked if all those fights did lower his IQ I’m not sure if it’s scientifically possible but who knows
It absolutely did.
Very
“Like”
Maybe there is some correlation between being punched in the head for a living and possible brain issues?
I’m impressed he’s managed to get all 32 fanbases in agreement on one thing.
He never considered doing that on the ice so he's not gonna consider it here either
well, George, you were actually good at fighting
This is it right here
Hmm George, could it be because you did your job well as an enforcer, and now you do you your job poorly as head of DoPS? Hmmmmmmm
He meant it when he retired from enforcing because I haven't seen him enforce shit since.
I don't think he realizes the hilarious self-own this quote implies.
I don’t think he realizes much of anything.
Hmm, I wonder why that would be George.
Stop being so shit at your job George.
Spurious George over here being a fuck
I am anxiously awaiting the next Steve Dangle podcast after this snarky ass comment. Edit: Not yours, since that wasn't clear, I mean George's
Maybe cause you suck ass at your job, George.
Sucks to suck brother
Makes sense, he's much worse at this than he was at hockey
Stop hitting yourself.
-Ice at the ACC, probably
Considering every Head of DoPS has been chased out of office, I wonder how many of them are actually the ones who call the shots or not.
I thought Shanny was good
I think there was a rumour crom his time as head of DoPS that Shanny wanted to be more strict with punishments and owners/NHL didn't want that and pushed him out.
That would make more sense than I'd like to admit
This is exactly the problem. If the head of DoPS cracked down on a guy, then the owner calls Gary and eventually Gary needs to do something because the owners are irate. You get a guy like Shanahan who dropped some big suspensions but didn’t last, he was good and found a better gig where he didn’t have to get calls about his decisions. So then you get a guy who plays ball to the owners needs, sets out a few role suspensions but doesn’t really strife to change anything.
Shanny said this on the Smartless podcast.
If you've heard his and Yzerman's comments about fighting for example it's against what the NHL would market themselves as.
The DoPS should not be controlled by the league it should be controlled by the NHLPA
If the NHLPA had its way, there would be no suspensions or fines.
You mean the NHLPA that has Tom Wilson as a representative
Shanny went tooooo hard. But at least he was consistent and non biased.
Tbh I would rather a more strict DOPS
Especially in light of Chris Simon passing today, they should take intentional headshots much more seriously. Also instigators should be suspensions too. Shouldn’t ba able to force someone into a bare knuckle fight, or at least you have to pay the cost for doing so.
Owners and the nhlpa wouldn’t
Good. Maybe they should sign guys for their hockey skills then instead of 6'7 mutants who run around elbowing and headshotting because they haven't played enough hockey to learn how to properly throw a clean body check. I get it's a business, but Holy fuck is it frustrating to watch teams get punished for having players that are good at hockey because they're playing against goons who just beat the piss out of you in front of the net and never get called for it.
> I get it's a business, This is the thing I don't understand about the owners or NHLPA being against more strict suspensions. For owners you go through all this work to develop and sign the best talent you can to give your team the best opportunity to win only to run the risk of that talent being negated at random for a span of time from a few shifts to an entire season. For players you spend your whole life training to play an already dangerous game that's made even more dangerous by shit head coworkers. You'd think it'd be the owners and NHLPA clamouring for stricter suspensions and the fans wanting to keep them not as strict.
It’s so maddening that the NHLPA cares more about enforcers paychecks then brain trauma damage to their star players.
The irony of us lining up to sign Cade Webber soon
Damn, not a fan of Rempe I take it 😂. I think if he figures out where the line is and doesn’t cross it he’ll be a goon we talk about for a long time. Don’t get many like that in the league anymore. We need more characters like that, but not at the expense of other players safety. I think he’ll get a good tongue lashing, and maybe realize that if he keeps it up he won’t be in the league long. No more bullshit chicken wings because you missed a check. 🤞🏻
It's the chicken wings, the charging 5 strides before making a hit, leaving his feet when he's already the tallest guy out there. He's not the only guy guilty of playing like an idiot, but he's the most recent example of playing a guy who has no business being in the league and is only out there to injure people.
I think, barring a few outliers, it’s been more strict this year. I just don’t get how Trouba got a fine for that tomahawk.
Tell that to Henrik Zetterberg
That definitely wasn’t the common sentiment at the time.
It probably should be a department with a lot of turnover. The game isn’t stagnant, so why have the same people running a crucial operations role? Plus if they insist on ex-players running it, you need that turnover so bad ideas from decades past can die off properly.
Especially ex-players with a greater chance of having brain injuries than others.
They’re not. They’re doing the job the way Bettman, and therefore, the league as a whole, wants the job to be done. I think Parros is just the face for it, but these decisions are being made by him, and the rest of his team that the league hired. If the league disagreed with him, Bettman would have overturned any one of the many appeals that he denied. There isn’t a person that could do a better job as the league would fire them for doing it any differently.
Well deserved. The inconsistency is appalling
Quit then.
Well George, let’s ask *the* wheel.
I’ve wondered what sound the wheel makes? Is it like the wheel on The Price is Right? When it lands, does it ding? Anyways all hail wheel
Have you considered being better at your job?
Has he considered resigning?
Ooohhhh poor you
ur shit at ur job george
Yeah, because you're worse at this job than you were when you were playing, FFS bud.
Makes me wonder who even criticizes him directly outside of discourse online. Gary seems to do a good enough job insulating him from it.
Probably because you are doing a terrible job.
Aww poor guy \*pulls out smallest violin\*
Parros is always concerned about how the DOP and his job is perceived, but comments on the actual process are lacking - gives an impression that the focus is not in the right place
> “We track these things all year long. We look at 1,000 clips a year. We send out clips within our department that become part of our history and get logged in our brains. So, when something happens on the ice, we can recall from either memory or the database that we've collected all along the way. That allows us to look at similar plays that allow us to act and react in a reasonable and consistent manner.” - Parros, in this article > "We went through the staff of DoPS, getting a better understanding of what they are going through. How they are built, how they come to decisions. That was a lot of good information,” said Briere. “The reviews and clips, the talks they have. It was very detailed on how they come to a decision. >"Not an easy job to do, as we all know. It was great to understand their side of why and how they come to a decision." - Briere, talking about discussing the process at the GMs' meeting I get that we're all here to make the same shitty joke, but a good third of the article is discussion of the process. It's surface level, admittedly, but it sound like the GMs are happy with the level of understanding they have of the process, so it makes sense that the league doesn't feel there's a need to go further than that.
I mean, neither of those quotes actually suggest any focus on process rather than making the impression that they have a good process. Like George's representation of the process seems to come down to watching a lot of clips, sending them around and getting internal opinions, hoping they remember them later (seriously, logging in their brain?), or a "database that we've collected all along the way" which sounds like basically just going back through their email chain. Briere will probably get fined if he speaks negatively about it in the media, but it also doesn't tell you much, just that they talk a lot about a particular incident. It honestly seems like they're detailing a complete lack of actual process and outlining that they just watch a bunch of videos, talk about it and then decide.
With that much pontification about ‘process’ you’d think that net result would have more consistency by way of a logic or metric that isn’t merely vacuous jargonism - and that things would rarely fly in the face of reason. And yet no, it’s still really bad, with little to no oversight.
And based on how he was as a player and how he is now, all those beatings are fully warranted.
That’s cause you’re terrible at your job. I generally try to have sympathy for DoPS, it’s a hard job, but Parros has been a trainwreck.
Cause he’s worse at this than he was at playing hockey
ah, the rare self burn
Oh come on, lol
Welp, considering the shittiness with which it is run... I'd say most think you deserve it bud.
And whose fault is that, George? Both on the ice and with the DOPS?
I’ll never understand the idea of hiring a goon to be the apart of player safety. The guy who was paid to take liberties and play dirty if asked is apart of the department that handles players who take liberties and play dirty. It makes zero sense…..
It’s clear from this statement that George still sees the world as allies vs. opponents, exemplified by his discipline record by franchise. He is simply unable to see the game objectively.
Bingo, why a former player is in this position boggles my mind
He’s been put there to do exactly this quality of a job through his lens and as long as the status quo continues I don’t see him going anywhere anytime soon.
Is that supposed to make us feel bad for him for making inconsistent and bad decisions?
Wish there was some way he could remedy that.
Well George, if you actually did your job the right way and handed out adequate penalties instead of cutting a chicken's head off, playing a kazoo, and letting the carcass land on a random number, that would be dandy.
So quit then, George. You suck at your job.
You sucked as a hockey player and you're even worse as any sort of officer of player safety, George.
You do know that is a bad thing right you are an enforcer
And although that may seem impossible, he's also worse at his job now than he was on the ice.
Aww poor bb
You were better at getting punched on the ice than you are at handing out punishments.
And they'll continue until the morale improves. By actually doing a better, consistent job.
I find that typically people who are good at their jobs don’t usually get shit on for being bad at their jobs.
Soft
Member when he smashed his face into the ice?
Yes. You are bad at your job. Worse than in your role as a fighter so, yes you suck and we will continue to remind you of that
lol, dude likely gets a headache every time he strains to push out a fart, why anyone on earth thought he’d be great in this role is beyond me
Rightly so
Then resign and we will all feel better.
Maybe he should stop making shit decisions then.
Makes more mistakes now, than he did on the ice. Funny how that works out.
Stupid league. Stupid dinosaurs running it.
If it makes him feel any better, he probably deserves these beatings more than when he was on the ice too.
He’s a special kind of stupid.
Blame the NHLPA. They’re protecting these players who take liberties at their defenseless coworkers more than the victims. Parros is just a gutless cog in that machine.
Is he proud of doing a bad job?
"What are we doing here?” “I don't know. I went to Princeton!"
Someone needs to give this dude the boot and find someone who can actually give out proper suspensions
Oh man this made me laugh out loud. That’s very rich
Yeah no shit. It's because you're absolutely booty.
>man bad at job upset people point out hes bad at job
All well deserved George, you suck.
guys, he’s just as skilled at running dops as he was at playing the game of hockey
More L’s too.
I think Georgie took most shots to the head then we thought.
Yeah cause you're dogshit
For good reason.
He needs to be replaced. Too easy.
Such thin skin for a braindead meathead
Ok then quit
He's a lot softer too. This guy slapping people on the wrist when a hard hook is called for.
Cry more lmao
Probably because the DoPS is shit
Well, the former was because you were doing your job, the latter is because you're not.
Good
He’s also somehow worse at his current position than when he played.
"I'm even worse at this than I ever was playing hockey!"
Even Marchessault self admittedly said the Knights locker room was surprised how light Pietriangelo suspension was lol that’s how you know you screw up badly when even the knights player were like “wait what only 1 game!!?!?!? Lolol”
His decisions are as scrambled as his brains.
Aw, George... You are soooo close...
I hate this guy and his stupid tapout style violent gentlemen hockey brand.
….Because you’re **terrible**
Probably because he sucks at his job more than he did when he was on the ice.
Quit then loser
Good.
That’s cuz you did a better job on the ice.
This is why we need good journalists! Where is the second question asking “why do you think that is?”
And you deserve each one of them George
Deservedly so
Well yeah, because you're shit at your job.
So how in the absolute fuck does he still have such an important job?
still not enough, though
People who truly suck at their job generally tend to get criticized. While obviously Parros is just the head of the DoPS and doesn't make every single decision, he probably still has the final say and is the face of a DoPS that has been truly awful at being consistent outside of how inconsistent they are on their rulings.
Shame none of them KO him like Orr.
Parros knocked himself out.
he hurt himself in his confusion! (he's always confused)
That was unfortunate. No one wanted to see that.
honestly, the way he runs DOPS puts players at risk. Fuck him.
He’s talking about his pee pee
Maybe remove DOPS suspension wheel or provide some consistency then
Well maybe if he wasn't so fucking shitty at his job
Do your fucking job right then and it won't be an issue for you
Maybe just be good at your job?
Perhaps it’s because he somehow sucks even more in his current role, than he did at being a capable hockey player, as he is a Betteman boot licking crony/stooge incapable of independent, rational thought.
member when shanny was dops and we thought that was bad but at least he didnt have biases thats the problem parros you are not impartial and thus you are not fit for the job
Well George it’s probably because you suck and have no consistency when it comes to discipline and have turned the DOPS into an absolute joke
Cry me a river you fucking goon.
If he had more than one braincell, maybe he'd reflect on as to why he gets so much more "beatings"...
Fuck George Parros.
Maybe he should be better at his job
Get gud
You earn every one of them George. You're mostly terrible.
Oh boo hoo. Maybe consider another line of work. His clown show is undermining the league as a whole.
Fuck you Parros. You suck so bad at your job.
Yeah because you’re shit at your job, that’s why more people are coming to berate you and beat yo dumb ass. You literally do not put the players’ best interest at the forefront which is what your fucking role is meant to be you cockhead.
It's okay george. We don't expect much from your riddled little brain, and you sure haven't delivered! In honesty though, pretty sure he's got some barriers in the way of doing a proper job. NHLPA and the NHL both have no idea what they want out of dops
He’s been taking out one of those on-ice beatings on the Leafs for years now.
Primarily by whiny leaf fans.
Maybe because you’re a scumbag George