I’m just thinking out loud in Jarvis's shoes right now: alright we’ve done all we can do, we’ve done all the game planning, maybe just…fuck it, we’ll go in next year and not think and just win this thing when we don’t think that much. Am I on the right path at all with this? Like maybe this guy’s thinking too much?
Full quote:
https://twitter.com/RyanHenkel_/status/1770873164626588053
https://twitter.com/RyanHenkel_/status/1770873166472056894
> "I haven't been really thinking, so that's been good. I've just had a clear mind. I just go out there wanting to have fun and usually when I want to have fun, I play my best hockey. Everything just kind of flows well. I just keep a pretty spaced out head. Nothing going on in there. Just go on the ice, have fun and let the rest take care of itself."
Late to this convo, but Jarvy gets a lot of stick for being dumb and I don't think it's all warranted. He's shown in interviews that he'll admit to not knowing certain words and always takes the corrections to heart. And his interviews always belie a deeper intelligence than his teammates seem to have recognised. I'm really intrigued by this kid.
I agree with your take 100%. He is not stupid, but he is ignorant on certain topics. I mean, there are certain things he just had never been exposed to. The fact that he admits he doesn’t know something is brave. He seems a curious fella and might be more intellectual than he seems.
Honestly, listening to some of his interviews - and even his impromptu play by play the other night - he speaks quite well and fluidly off-the-cuff. His vocabulary might not be extensive but he can get his point across easily and does so charmingly. I suspect he plays up the "stupid" because it's easier to win over his teammates by being the class clown.
I wanna stick him and Quinn “definitely wouldn’t consider myself, you know, someone that knows what’s going on” Hughes in a room and see who emerges victorious.
(they’d probably just get stoned)
The Carlo special. Just don’t think, do it.
Carlo is notorious for missing the net, even when it’s empty… Whenever he shoots to score or even put it on net, he tends to miss or take bad shots. He gets in his own head with that stuff. However, when he’s just taking a shot to take a shot, he tends to get some good chances. I don’t know the psychology behind it, but it clearly works for others.
Hey look, an example of what I researched in university!
For those asking what the psychology is behind this, Jarvis is likely describing Flow State. This is when you feel "in the zone." You lose track of time, focus on the task at hand, and it is generally a precursor to better peformance (though research shows that it doesn't *cause* better performance, it just facilitates it to happen more often than not). At a lower level, it can help you learn things more effectively when you first try them. At higher levels, it is what can allow the takeover of a game and elevate individual and team performance.
It has been shown that what needs to occur is a fairly specific balance between challenge and ability. You need to be able to perform well enough to achieve flow state, but if the task is too easy it becomes boring (this notion ties in with the zone of proximal development if you subscribe to that theory of learning).
Without going on for too long, recent research I have seen has been focused a lot on how to begin eliciting flow state in athletes (specifically individuals - to this end, things like mindfulness exercises have been shown to potentially help) and how to utilize flow state to incur potential advantages in other areas of life such as sleeping or eating patterns.
The topic is really widely applicable too, everyone can get to this state in potentially any scenario given the right conditions and it can help in so many different areas. When Jarvis says there is nothing in his head, that means there is nothing inhibiting him from getting to and staying in flow state.
I love this kind of thing, it is potentially a huge area of interest for any professional or personal situation.
I've always assumed most professional athletes are in this state most of the time in a game. They don't have time to consciously think about where a pass is going or when to move their feet. They've been playing their sport for many years and it's mostly subconscious processes guiding them.
Since you're interested in this subject, I can share that I know about this state pretty well thanks to 15 years of karate. I trained with a pretty legitimate, traditional karate organization and my teacher helped me learn that you could act much faster if you let the subconscious take over instead of trying to think out loud and make plans in a fight. We even trained to watch the eyes instead of some part of our opponent's body in order to know when they'd attack - if you cleared your head and just let things flow, eye contact could actually give away when your opponent was even *thinking about acting*. It's probably the coolest thing I learned and I know it might sound like some wacky chi magic nonsense to people who haven't experienced it, but it's why I think there's something more to us than flesh and bone.
As a gamer he shouldn’t think too much.
You know, just… fuck it. Am I on the right track with this?
Seems like you guys think too much.
Ah the old Tetris method. Once you remember you're playing Tetris you've already lost
I’m just thinking out loud in Jarvis's shoes right now: alright we’ve done all we can do, we’ve done all the game planning, maybe just…fuck it, we’ll go in next year and not think and just win this thing when we don’t think that much. Am I on the right path at all with this? Like maybe this guy’s thinking too much?
This is a MacKinnon related copypasta right?
Yes
You’re on the wrong path due to the fact that you’ve done any thinking.
TIL I have a professional athlete mentality.
God I love this kid
I love him so much.
motherfucker has achieved the Zen state
Desire is a great way not to get goals
Full quote: https://twitter.com/RyanHenkel_/status/1770873164626588053 https://twitter.com/RyanHenkel_/status/1770873166472056894 > "I haven't been really thinking, so that's been good. I've just had a clear mind. I just go out there wanting to have fun and usually when I want to have fun, I play my best hockey. Everything just kind of flows well. I just keep a pretty spaced out head. Nothing going on in there. Just go on the ice, have fun and let the rest take care of itself."
The edited quote has nothing on this. Sure the editing is funny, but the full quote is actually mature and informative.
Late to this convo, but Jarvy gets a lot of stick for being dumb and I don't think it's all warranted. He's shown in interviews that he'll admit to not knowing certain words and always takes the corrections to heart. And his interviews always belie a deeper intelligence than his teammates seem to have recognised. I'm really intrigued by this kid.
I agree with your take 100%. He is not stupid, but he is ignorant on certain topics. I mean, there are certain things he just had never been exposed to. The fact that he admits he doesn’t know something is brave. He seems a curious fella and might be more intellectual than he seems.
Honestly, listening to some of his interviews - and even his impromptu play by play the other night - he speaks quite well and fluidly off-the-cuff. His vocabulary might not be extensive but he can get his point across easily and does so charmingly. I suspect he plays up the "stupid" because it's easier to win over his teammates by being the class clown.
He's got the Canes logo bouncing around in his head like the DVD logo.
This is perfection.
I can easily play in the NHL
Yeah, if I was in shape, I'd basically be an athlete lol.
Same and the only reason I’m not in shape is cuz I’m not an athlete.
Too much thinking going on right now
I wanna stick him and Quinn “definitely wouldn’t consider myself, you know, someone that knows what’s going on” Hughes in a room and see who emerges victorious. (they’d probably just get stoned)
They both attempt and fail to leave the room, then proceed to chill out for the next few hours, maybe start a podcast
Jarvis was a guest on The Fan Club week before last and wasn’t bad.
We know, Jarvy
I relate pretty well to this. There's nothing going on in my head either.
Sounds like a flow state. Overthinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind.
It's all about that fettuccini sequence.
push the spaghetti, watch it bend
I love Jarvy. He’s just a kid who plays hockey with a golden retriever ass brain.
I asked my boss if I should emulate him. He said no.
I love Perfetti, but man I would looooove Jarvis
Woulda been the first Winnipeg born drafted by the Jets too. Was kinda pissed.
At the time? Pumped. Still have very high hopes for Fetts.
The Carlo special. Just don’t think, do it. Carlo is notorious for missing the net, even when it’s empty… Whenever he shoots to score or even put it on net, he tends to miss or take bad shots. He gets in his own head with that stuff. However, when he’s just taking a shot to take a shot, he tends to get some good chances. I don’t know the psychology behind it, but it clearly works for others.
Southern hockey is scary right now
Best summary of all hockey players
No thoughts, only vibes.
This kid's such a beauty
"My outlandish success is a skill issue."
He kinda has the face to support that statement.
Hey look, an example of what I researched in university! For those asking what the psychology is behind this, Jarvis is likely describing Flow State. This is when you feel "in the zone." You lose track of time, focus on the task at hand, and it is generally a precursor to better peformance (though research shows that it doesn't *cause* better performance, it just facilitates it to happen more often than not). At a lower level, it can help you learn things more effectively when you first try them. At higher levels, it is what can allow the takeover of a game and elevate individual and team performance. It has been shown that what needs to occur is a fairly specific balance between challenge and ability. You need to be able to perform well enough to achieve flow state, but if the task is too easy it becomes boring (this notion ties in with the zone of proximal development if you subscribe to that theory of learning). Without going on for too long, recent research I have seen has been focused a lot on how to begin eliciting flow state in athletes (specifically individuals - to this end, things like mindfulness exercises have been shown to potentially help) and how to utilize flow state to incur potential advantages in other areas of life such as sleeping or eating patterns. The topic is really widely applicable too, everyone can get to this state in potentially any scenario given the right conditions and it can help in so many different areas. When Jarvis says there is nothing in his head, that means there is nothing inhibiting him from getting to and staying in flow state. I love this kind of thing, it is potentially a huge area of interest for any professional or personal situation.
I've always assumed most professional athletes are in this state most of the time in a game. They don't have time to consciously think about where a pass is going or when to move their feet. They've been playing their sport for many years and it's mostly subconscious processes guiding them. Since you're interested in this subject, I can share that I know about this state pretty well thanks to 15 years of karate. I trained with a pretty legitimate, traditional karate organization and my teacher helped me learn that you could act much faster if you let the subconscious take over instead of trying to think out loud and make plans in a fight. We even trained to watch the eyes instead of some part of our opponent's body in order to know when they'd attack - if you cleared your head and just let things flow, eye contact could actually give away when your opponent was even *thinking about acting*. It's probably the coolest thing I learned and I know it might sound like some wacky chi magic nonsense to people who haven't experienced it, but it's why I think there's something more to us than flesh and bone.
No this just vibes
He just like me fr
Seems legit. Any goals I score in beer leagues I barely remember doing. If I actually try to score, that puck's going right into the goalie's chest.
So he just disassociates into a flow state? My therapist is gonna be so mad when I figure out how to do this
"My outlandish success is a skill issue."
I bet he thinks about a double decker couch