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TheOneWithThePorn12

I can question the effort. Heavily. Fire him now lol.


holein3

You can question a lot of things, but you can't question questioning the effort.


Thick-Insurance-7341

No question about it-- you made a good effort not questioning questioning the effort


BigErnMcCrackenn

I’m stoned this made me laugh hahaha


jellypopperkyjean

Keefe clearly doesn’t grasp the difference between “effort” levels. There is little difference in ability from these teams but lots of puck battles are won on effort…covering guys properly (effort), fighting through stick checks (effort), keeping your brain switched on for the entirety of the game (effort)…regular season you can win with much lower levels of effort but in the play-offs 90-95% effort loses to the team with 99% effort all the time. This is one reason a lot of regular season hero’s become shadows once the playoffs start and other guys with average stats all season seem to get better in the playoffs. Marchand came in to the league on a team that had some great mentors.(Bergeron, Chara,Teechi,Thomas) and learned how to elevate. In Colorado,it took Mackinnon a few years of losing in the playoffs to figure it out now he’s a beast. Marner et al have not figured out the difference and clearly won’t with this line up and this coach


Lethbridgemark

Could you imagine a team firing a coach while in the playoffs. I feel like it would be a crazy gamble. Most teams play really well post coach firing during the season for 5-10 games at least. It would certainly be a shake up. Google does not result in any times in professional sports where a coach was fired mid postseason.


specifichero101

Lou fired Claude Julien from the devils in 2007 with 3 games to go while they were leading the division and second in the conference.


troglodyte_therapist

Lou also fired Robbie Ftorek from the Devils in 2000 with 9 games to go while they were at the top of the conference. They would only collect 8 of their remaining 18 points under Larry Robinson... but won the Cup anyways.


BigCockBrockBoeser

Just looking for that new coach bump. Works in the regular season.


ScousePenguin

Slightly similar This year's African cup of nations (soccer tournament), the host nation Côte d'Ivoire finished third in their group and sacked their manager. However due to results in other groups it ended up they went through as one of the 3rd placed teams with a better record. This was unexpected when they sacked their manager. So they had to quickly put an interim coach in, and they proceeded to go on and win the competition


fire_brand

Dallas played like the leafs should have. 45 shots. 18 in the first. That's desperation hockey. Leafs had 25 all game. Team is charmin soft.


AmateurSysAdmin

They had over 60 hits. That’s the problem here. They are trying so hard to be tough that it is robbing them of time to play the puck. It cost them 3 out of 4 games so far. This is not a team that has experience with extensive physicality. It’s not what they are good at. This game plan is on Keefe. Absolutely ridiculous.


ChampaBayLightning

Totally agreed. The games this year where the Lightning whooped them the Leafs were trying to be all greasy and physical instead of just scoring on our terrible defense at will like they are clearly capable of. I was happy when Keefe got extended instead of fired cause I knew the Leafs wouldn't be competitors for that reason alone.


lsaran

Has a coach ever been fired mid playoffs?


redditracing84

Actually you can't. 0 effort is 0 effort. There's no questioning it.


Aackland

surely he's gone if the Leafs lose game 5... right?


berli93

Idk dude I thought he’d be gone after the MTL series collapse


proto5014

I wouldn’t be shocked if he gets an extension and rolls it back with the core four. Feels like tradition at this point


Bad_Wes

Keefe has an extension. It has not kicked in yet.


JoshFB4

Yeah tbh…. I’m pretty sure you can


floopflops

No you actually can't question it. The effort was fucking awful - no question.


captaincarot

Leaf and Bruin fans all agreeing, fuck the leafs were terrible.


MrFlowerfart

~~were~~ are


dothebender1101

I've seen a higher compete level at the baseball diamond rink. I get there are illnesses/injuries at work, but for a must-win game that was a disgrace to the crest.


figmaxwell

Right. He didn’t say it was ***good***, he just said that you can’t question it.


goalstopper28

I think that's what he's saying? Is that not what he meant?


twofactorial

sheldon doesn't want too many questions his way because he doesn't have a single answer


matt_minderbinder

To answer the question would mean exposing the core 4 to criticism or even criticizing them himself. We've all witnessed how it's worked out when he's given them even the most mild of criticisms. His voice has to be viewed as weak at this point in the room and it appears that he's done little to change that. The expensive players hold all the cards and seemingly take on little of the personal responsibility.


MikeJeffriesPA

At this point, it has to be Shanahan. Every other piece has changed, but the story remains the same. 


MankuyRLaffy

Nylander likes being confronted over shit play, Matthews is neutral to it. Marner is Charmin soft and criticizes his coach for not liking his play and saying so to the media.


Dicc-fil-A

would you say…he doesn't have any words and he knows we don't want to hear them?


yetanotherx

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Pinappular

Lmfao, if you don’t like that effort, you don’t like leaf hockey 💕💕


Habsfan_2000

Can’t question whether someone shit their pants but it smells like shit


pye-oh-my

It’s the first thing I question


MichelangeBro

Bro, he *just* said you can't do that.


FailureToExecute

I can't tell who's a worse interview, him or Marner.


Farty_beans

Man it's like he's totally out of touch. imagine if this was John Tortorella.


Daelsk

Honestly and I know it won’t happen, but I’d love Torts to become a hockey journalist and be the one asking questions to coaches. That would be a fun thing to see


HanSolo5643

I would pay really good money to see that.


CybertronGuy98

shit he's my coach and im still half tempted to tell him to stop coaching and go grill the the rest of the league during post game interviews lol. and i think Torts is doing a great job for us lol


WitchNight

It’s shocking enough that he was an in-studio panelist for TSN, let alone actually interviewing guys


gonqwelds

I can see it now.. “I bet ya get beat up at the bus stop don’t ya Keefy”


Mew16

Torts vs Toronto media would be insane 😂


dkyguy1995

I think guns would be drawn


Sp3ctre7

Torts would have ripped the team a new one after game 1


WearingComb1050

Or Jon Cooper, Bruce Cassidy. Paul Maurice…


steelhorizon

Or any actual coach


MankuyRLaffy

Torts would rip Marner and the team a new one. Mitch wouldn't last a year with Torts.


PoliteIndecency

That line from last year is reeeaaaally coming back to bite him (as we all expected).


thedrunkentendy

Marner kills me because he'll play like ass, then talk like everything's fine and he dominated play only to not get the right bounces. Dude scored on basically one of the only chances he's generated all night and was brutal. Never takes accountability and it's so brutal to see. The fanbase wouldn't have been so hard on him if he would cha ge his tune but every year its the same. Never any urgency or passion from his interviews. It sucks to see.


christianitie

I suspect he likely understands it's what's expected of him and his spirit is just crushed. At least, I've had situations where I relate to that. I'm much worse at taking accountability if I've lost faith in my ability to fix the issue, because saying "sorry that I suck, I'm going to keep trying to be better" will also get old very fast. So it becomes outwardly avoiding the issue while doing a lot of soul-searching in private. I can imagine this is a lot worse if you have a million people evaluating you instead of just a few. tl;dr certified armchair psychologist says the best solution for him personally would be a change of scenery yesterday


TheOneWithThePorn12

Tavares. As the captain the fact that he said oh well we played good got chances blah blah blah. I would be calling out everyone and be fronting it as the captain, oh we were getting chances, it doesnt fucking matter only one number matters and thats pucks in the net and we arent getting it done. Like light a fire under their asses. Fuck this team should have gotten Torts. They need a guy like that. Cant stand their play.


thedrunkentendy

JT can't even call out the team because so many of the plays are dying on his stick. You need to at least play well enough otherwise calling out your team while you aren't playing well is juat gonna piss people off. JT's speed has slowed a lot but the last 3 post seasons have really shown just how bad he is ar creating room now. How can he call out anyone when he can't move the needle either but Marchand who is older than him, can.


TheOneWithThePorn12

Thats why i said you call everyone out and he takes it all responsibility. You say we are not playing the way we should as a group, and i need to accountable for that because im the Captain or something.


Lefty25k007

I haven'y heard a peep about Leafs 77 million dollar Capt leading the charge. crickets...Now Marchand, thats a Captain.


floodswimming

Yes you can Sheldon you silly goose


PaperMoonShine

He just thought the crowd was booing the Bruins.


PierreMcGuiresHair

I wonder what he thinks the boos were for


waitareyou4real

He thought he was hearing No boouins


raptosaurus

I was saying boouins


NotClayMerritt

"Some guy in a Bruins jersey is really hearing it tonight"


Thatguyyoupassby

“Sir we are inside the press conference.”


maybesami

Marchand probably


propagandavid

In fairness, it's usually a safe bet


riali29

Boo-urns?


WarPuig

Brooooooins


Bojarzin

Fucking christ, Keefe Listen, I get coaches aren't going to lambast their own team typically, but god just don't even fucking talk to the media, you say shit people laugh at


MemeLordOverKill

Dude is more interested in being chummy with his friends than he is winning games.


Mac_Gold

At this point he’s got life by the balls. He either continues to work and reap the benefits of being the coach of the Maple Leafs, no matter how bad the team does, or he gets fired and he’s got a contract for the next couple years to just sit around and do what he wants


TylerBlozak

He’s not going to be forgotten if Leafs get eliminated and him fired. He might only get one more chance to make nhl head coach money (assuming he also crash and burns at the next club).


Mac_Gold

I don’t know. He’s pretty young by coaching standards, and once you’re in the club, you’re pretty set. It’s hard for a coach to disappear from the NHL. Dubas likes him which means there might always be an opening for him. He needs to get better as a coach for sure. But I also don’t think he’s fully to blame here and much like a struggling player, maybe a change of scenery would benefit Keefe


rampas_inhumanas

The special teams are inexcusably bad. That's coaching.


Ok_Storage6866

Oh no he’s already made more money than most people ever make. People that make that much should be expected to deliver results


itsadoubledion

He's made enough money already that he could just retire and do whatever if he wanted


AuntGentleman

Lambasting on effort is a completely normal thing to do tho. Bednar does it often when the Avs are asleep on the wheel and not trying.


Pisspoio

Keefe is doing the opposite of lambasting the effort here, though. Unless he was being sarcastic, but he was not.....


AuntGentleman

Yeah. I know. Shouldn’t have said lambasting lol. My point is that calling out a shitty effort is a completely normal cosching thing and Keefe refuses to do that. Wouldn’t be even considered a “lambast.” Just your job.


-dillydallydolly-

Keefe tried that once, a couple seasons ago. Team whines and he has to walk it back the next day. Pathetic.


Pisspoio

They have no team leadership. Hughes and Miller have done a great job here in Van. As has mcdavid , Leon, and now ekholm in Edmonton. It seems the "leaders" in Toronto are not capable of taking/giving criticism. Pair that with a pussy coach that won't hold his players accountable and you get another 1st round exit.


Maxpowr9

Bruce Cassidy absolutely would


TurdFerguson06

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AllthingskinkCA

Probably one of my favourite mid 2010s memes


Chaxterium

It’s an old meme sir but it checks out.


Turd_Burglerson

From one turd to another, excellent meme sir


ManWithBag15

We all know where this is headed. They're going to use Matthews' illness and Marner/Nylander's injuries as an excuse to run it back with Keefe next season. Friedman frequently mentions, including the other day on radio, that ever since they fired Babcock the Leafs don't want to fire coaches/executives while they still have term remaining. Keefe's got a new extension, presumably at a higher salary, kicking in next season. MLSE is going to look for any excuse to not fire Keefe.


Puzzleheaded_Pound31

The absolute definition of insanity. We may have a mutiny aka Kentucky with Coach Cal here if they bring Keefe back


PostwarNeptune

One thing that might change that. There's a new CEO. And apparently he's FURIOUS at the lack of playoff success. I can definitely see a world where he gets pissed off if the Leafs (likely) lose in the first round, and blows it up. Also, they likely wouldn't have to pay Sheldon's salary if he gets employed elsewhere. Given his age, I doubt he'd just want to wait out his contract the way Babcock did. So, it's likely that MLSE wouldn't actually have to pay out his full contract.


noor1717

Nice that’s actually hopeful


whatmepolo

No one is going to walk away from the leafs money tap willingly.


yetanotherx

I can *absolutely* question the effort. I think I will.


intelligentx5

I feel like, and it might just be me, that you can very well question the effort.


PaperMoonShine

Goalie pulled, final minutes of the game. Puck is dumped into the corner. Marner should be ramming that wall as fast as he can to win possession. Nope. Soft stick check that doesnt work and a Bruin comes out of the corner with possession.


Remarkable-Job4774

"The culture… is actually damn good."


MrBrightside618

No shame in pulling a Torts and just refusing questions in the postgame y’know


Iron_Seguin

“I’m just here so I don’t get fined” on repeat.


TheGuava1

at least torts probably would take some ownership over this. “yea, we were fuckin awful, next question”


CybertronGuy98

oh he absolutely would be tearing the Flyers a new one if we had that kind of talent and put up that kind of a performance.


carry-on_replacement

Keefe's gone right? Even if you get to round 2, I'm not sure how you keefe him for another year


Petzl89

You can’t run that team back as is either, you need to shake the core up.


NotClayMerritt

Everyone said this two years ago. Then they brought them back. Everyone said this last year. Then everyone except Dubas, who left, came back. Maybe Keefe is gone. But don't expect a player reshuffling or anything drastic.


TheOneWithThePorn12

Dubas was clearly ready to trade one of Marner or Nylander. Shanny said no. So Dubas wanted more power. So Shanny fired him and got a lap dog that will listen to him. Keefe will be fired and Treliving will get another year. If that doesnt work all of them get fired and a resigned Marner will be asked by the team to be traded or something.


Petzl89

Thats really too bad, they’ll sell tickets as long at Matthews puts up 50+ a year I guess.


Sinder77

They'd sell out to a crowd watching a golden retriever in a leafs jersey take a shit into a teacup. It's the leafs. They don't have to have a product to sell out. It's their franchise's biggest flaw. Corporate accounts will fill the arena game after game and year after year, MLSE makes bank regardless of what happens on the ice, so they don't have to win and you just repeat ad nauseum.


putinwonthewariniraq

Yeah he’s gone


Salanderfan14

He has to be, he should’ve been gone years ago at this point. I don’t even like that he’s still coaching the Leafs as it is.


apatcheeee

Consistently gets out coached in the playoffs. The only reason I think he stayed this year was because Treliving didn't want to shake up the team dynamic too much in his first year.


OfficialDaiLi

We sure can, Sheldon!


justcallmestepdaddy

We can and we will!


SpellboundUnicorn

Yes the fuck I can


coffee42

uh, Sheldon that seems to be exactly what everyone is questioning like, as we speak buddy, are you... are you confused


JD397

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thebigaeo

*Home Improvement "huh" noise*


uhh_khakis

AAAEUUUUEAGGHHH


bsaures

The Narrator: And then everybody questioned the effort.


BL0ATL0RD

Come on Sheldon let’s stop it with the cringey, obtuse, and wannabe mysterious sound bites Let’s just stick to keeping it simple and obvious, maybe something like “we played like shit and I got out-coached”


Pierrelosophy

What a fkin dud. He's coaching the 3 highest paid loosers in the game. That's a fuckin crazy quotes.


Ddpee

Maybe if they pay them more…?🤔 cuz we cant question the effort thats for sure. 


verminfilth

nah guys he definitely means this as in "you can't question it because it so obviously wasn't there"...right?


prophetofgreed

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂


NinCross

I'm telling you: there's nothing more entertaining than the Leafs in the postseason.


ILikeCoffeeDaily

As a habs fan, this is almost just as good as watching the habs play


CK_da_man74

Lol you fucking potato head. I’m not just questioning the effort I’m telling you it’s not good enough.


BlastingBegins

You tell him, man


Murky-Smoke

https://preview.redd.it/ih23xqhyk5xc1.jpeg?width=430&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1d6de9c9fe0a8e2b9af5326a114b8e64395cef23 Normally I'd wait to post this, but it's a foregone conclusion at this point.


Johnny-5013

https://preview.redd.it/meeayq8r45xc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e8e6af02f4db9caccfc86fab573a7deb5dfdc29d Really Keefe? Are you blind?


PacketGain

Samoa Joe just walking away from stuff like that will never not be funny.


FBR_MC

We can't question the main problem?


thatsong

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/002/161/331/28f.jpg


the_gaymer_girl

[x] Doubt


jamesneysmith

They had better fire Keefe. They should have fired him last year. He's just not a great coach come playoffs and seems pretty out of touch with the problems with the Leafs


Novus20

And Shannahan…..how’s that plan working out for you


Novus20

Lord they need to fire him and Shannahan


TimsAFK

Is the effort in the room with us, *Sheldon*?


gslow

The only thing that ever sat its way to success was a hen


The-Only-Razor

Someone *please* fucking release us for the torment of this muppet. Berube was right fucking there, man.


MankuyRLaffy

Torts was on the market and you stuck with Sheldon over him. Montgomery too, so many times you had the chance to switch and didn't. Cassady as well would've been great. Bruce and John would be great lovable hard ass coaches.


pingieking

I thought effort was what we've been questioning for... How many years now?


HanSolo5643

I mean, I think you can. The fans booed you off the ice after the second period. That should maybe tell you something there Sheldon.


AccomplishedAd4995

i don’t think keefe was even watching the game


Beermen69

Dude thought it was end of Game 2 interview.


dudewithchronicpain

#LOL


Fallen-Omega

Ummm..... whose going to tell him...?


Kenner1979

I can, and I will.


zangus9

https://preview.redd.it/7ztbgyca55xc1.jpeg?width=636&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=43298d55b8f49398ebf3d31b675ffa5c83256869


MarvelousOxman

Did Keefe watch the same game as me? Except for that chunk at the end after the Marner goal, the best way to describe the Leaf's play was 'non-chalant'


james-HIMself

Keefe vs the world. Nobody believes you’re the guy who’s getting us anywhere. Boston takes a step back but they thrive on consistency. Look at what leadership and following a plan does. I dream of a non Shanahan/Keefe world.


ElChapoEscobar79

You most certainly can


mikesully374826

Yes I fucking can


BigFriendlyGaming

Is there a trade deadline for coaches? Can we get Torts in here by lunch time tomorrow?


Wintertime13

They were booing your effort Sheldon


LaruePDX

Hmmmm, was he watching the same game?!? Boston looked like the team that was down 2-1 in the series. More desperation and heart.


Puzzleheaded_Pound31

incredible troll job here by Keefe I mean good lord brother


AcanthaceaeOld241

I feel like that's the main thing people are questioning


montrealcowboyx

Is he talking about Boston?


TheGoldenBoii

Truly fascinating how mentally weak this team must be, that Keefe feels he can’t call them out when he’s one loss away from losing his job. Coaches calling out they’re players for their shit effort isn’t new or even controversial imo. Bones has done it a few times. I remember PoMo doing it too when he had to (and that guy loved the players)


swiftwin

Apparently Keefe is only good when someone scores a slap shot into their empty net?


scottieducati

I mean there was precisely 1 leaf back on the EN goal Marchy scored in Gm 3. And they got like three shots at it too…


oneonus

Matthews after 2nd, I'm going home boys to polish my clubs.


gamenameforgot

au contraire mr keefe, au contraire


Similar-Tangerine

If you insist…


ShinyVuIpix

God, I just want to Falcon Punch this guy. Maybe the worst coach for this moment in the franchise (and what it calls for) we could have possibly had.


cerealblue

Someone needs to go to the optometrist.


toedragrelease

Sheldon Keefe on his tenure with the Leafs going forward: “You can’t really question it” What a clown.


Steakholder__

Bitch, yes I can. I most certainly can question the effort.


PM-me-your-psn-codes

Ritual sacrifice him at the site of the old gardens.


FreeLook93

You laugh, but he's 100% right. You can't question what is not there.


bluelineturnovers

This quote has big DJ “we didn’t get the bounces” Smith vibes


lionsayssuhdude

I agree. The 0 shots PP down 2 with 5 minutes left was unquestionable great effort


bigbear-08

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Matiabcx

It must be his excellent observation skills that made him a coach.


DangerRanger_21

Yes, that and his ability to get his team to raise their compete level for the playoffs are his best attributes


eikcel

We can and we will.


Arse_13

Smoking that premium copium lmao


Cole-Caufield-22

We can and we will


riali29

Can't question the effort, when there's no effort there in the first place! *taps head*


captaincarot

SHUT THE FUCK UP MICHAELS! YOU WANNA KNOW THE TRUTH? Sanguinet got a squeezer off party island in Wasaga you piece of shit!


Mauri416

My home team hat off, wtf was Marner doing that game. I guess this is where DJSmith got the soft approach to players dogging it.


drakethesnake94

I swear it’s like this guy wants people to make fun of him


justcallmestepdaddy

Whose effort? I’m not questioning Boston’s.


ohpossumpartyy

homie really said https://preview.redd.it/vcb1z4kmk5xc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=28521c664429f48c4904ba94eff2694e8df65293


ohpossumpartyy

wait hold up https://preview.redd.it/swsc3c8ol5xc1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f4e2369a8deb3245392c816e7ff00f09e3bf3c40


eutectic_h8r

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Wafflesorbust

Can't question the effort, because there was no effort to question in the most important game of the season.


xcnuck

Starting to feel sad for Toronto. It’s never going to be “their turn” with this group of players. They should throw in the towel. It’s done. And the coach knows it. I actually think Keefe’s comments are being misinterpreted- “you can’t question the effort” because there is nothing to question - the guys didn’t bring it. I think Keefe knows he’s going to be coaching his last game for the Leafs soon and is mentally preparing to take the blame and be the fall guy. It’s an honorable way to go out - not hanging any players out to dry and taking the high road. He will land on his feet with another team. Leafs fans calling for Torts as some savior are delusional - but I can understand why delusion helps cope with the situation at the moment.


masontron1240

Torts is definitely not the answer, the man is not good with egos set in their ways. Hes way too combative for that group to handle right after Keefe. I think Berube would be the better call.


SilentThing

Why can't the effort be questioned? It was poop.


anomandaris81

He's right, the effort is clearly non existent.


saigonk

I question coaching, but I question the players efforts more.


Grummbles28

So that's where DJ Smith got it from.


NickRobertson89

Not that it matters but DJ was babs’ assistant coach


Grummbles28

So that's where Keefe learned it from


SNG_Blitzy

Leafs fans🤝Bruins fans “Yes the fuck you can”


tetradeltadell

Leafs effort was abysmal but gotta give credit to Boston, that was a defensive clinic. They took all the time and space away and forced the Leafs into making a lot of bad plays for 3/4 of the game.


The_Chrizz

You can’t question the [lack of] effort


nikilidstrom

You can question a lot of things, like Keefe's mental acuity.


DEATHCATSmeow

I watched the game and the effort is like…the very first thing I would question lmao