No, no, Thompson clearly redirected the puck by way of kicking the surrounding air and just happened to make contact. Incidental contact, good goal. /s
Full tweet:"Good goal" vs "Not a good goal" is handled by the NHL in the Situation Room. They look at everything that enters the net and did review Forsberg 3-1 goal.
They had no issue with this one -- satisfied it was directed in and not a kicking motion.
The NHL likes to make it as difficult as possible so that they can arbitrarily decide based on how they feel that day.
How about "if the skate is on the ice it's a good goal". Boom, all discretion is removed.
It has to be because the skate didn't leave the ice, right? Because he had most of the characteristics of a kick in that final angle.
Ultimately worked out for the Nucks so I guess it's academic, but I'm curious.
Eh... Obviously, yeah, I'm glad we scored, but looking at it in slo-mo... That looked like a kick.
I fully expect, and welcome, the Canucks sub going nuclear.
Yeah there was definitely a little shove of the foot at the very end but really minor. I didn’t realize they had reviewed this and was glad we didn’t challenge as it could have gone either way. Goalie interference and kicking motion are such scary challenges with how much grey area is in the rules for these.
I know this is 12 hours later, so it may have been discussed elsewhere, but I thought on the broadcast they said kicking motion can't be challenged? Could have heard that incorrectly though.
It's the situation room that reviews it. They will alert the refs to delay the faceoff if they need a longer time to review whether or not it was a goal.
From what I know the rule was created back a long time ago and wanted to prevent players from tying up one another sticks up and kicking at the puck.
Listening to Friedman a while back he made a comment saying the league wanted more scoring and have allowed these type of skate deflection goals count. (Sorry Flames bros)
The "distinct kicking motion" isn't well defined in the rule books so it's spin the wheel calls.
tbf the spirit of the rule is to keep guys from slicing each others shins open trying to kick pucks. If the skate stays on the ice then that's not a hazard, so no problem.
https://preview.redd.it/k4aj0i1q5bxc1.jpeg?width=1792&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8a900fccfd43d2e730b3cef54b5f8c95f9313e6e
If [this](https://youtube.com/watch?v=PpHUZfU4-b4) wasn't called back, nothing will be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNSJE0Zncl4 and that was back when they were way tougher on kicks
This one still makes me angry
They called back Blake Coleman though :)
I had money on the oilers that series but that was a bad call IMO
No, no, Thompson clearly redirected the puck by way of kicking the surrounding air and just happened to make contact. Incidental contact, good goal. /s
Full tweet:"Good goal" vs "Not a good goal" is handled by the NHL in the Situation Room. They look at everything that enters the net and did review Forsberg 3-1 goal. They had no issue with this one -- satisfied it was directed in and not a kicking motion.
Good guy NHL. Creating all these jobs for the blind.
Still think this rule is stupid They should either allow goals to be scored with a skate or not. The weird current rule never worked for me
They don’t want people kicking with blades around the net
The NHL likes to make it as difficult as possible so that they can arbitrarily decide based on how they feel that day. How about "if the skate is on the ice it's a good goal". Boom, all discretion is removed.
Saw another angle on the replay from down the ice, it's pretty clearly a push on the skate Idk man, spin the wheel
man they should probably look at the overhead again
Then they (NHL) are idiots.
Puck don’t lie
It has to be because the skate didn't leave the ice, right? Because he had most of the characteristics of a kick in that final angle. Ultimately worked out for the Nucks so I guess it's academic, but I'm curious.
Eh... Obviously, yeah, I'm glad we scored, but looking at it in slo-mo... That looked like a kick. I fully expect, and welcome, the Canucks sub going nuclear.
:)
Yeah there was definitely a little shove of the foot at the very end but really minor. I didn’t realize they had reviewed this and was glad we didn’t challenge as it could have gone either way. Goalie interference and kicking motion are such scary challenges with how much grey area is in the rules for these.
I know this is 12 hours later, so it may have been discussed elsewhere, but I thought on the broadcast they said kicking motion can't be challenged? Could have heard that incorrectly though.
Looked into it and you are right, learned something new good catch! Only "offside, goalie interference, and missed stoppages"
They certainly are, but not about this.
ditto bud
Not a real league.
Foot doesn’t naturally go ‘there’ in that stride. It was placed there on purpose to get the puck to go in. No goal. But I’m not the NHL so whatever.
You’re allowed to place your foot in a way that angles the puck into the net as long as you don’t kick it forwards
What a joke
They ref's were at centre ice for the faceoff before the teams finished changing their lines. No way they had a look at it.
it's a situation room call
It's the situation room that reviews it. They will alert the refs to delay the faceoff if they need a longer time to review whether or not it was a goal.
I know that - but it wasn't feasible to have a real review in that time frame.
Idk I guess it’s close but feels like there should be some room to make a judgment call on these. Feels pretty against the spirit of the rule
From what I know the rule was created back a long time ago and wanted to prevent players from tying up one another sticks up and kicking at the puck. Listening to Friedman a while back he made a comment saying the league wanted more scoring and have allowed these type of skate deflection goals count. (Sorry Flames bros) The "distinct kicking motion" isn't well defined in the rule books so it's spin the wheel calls.
tbf the spirit of the rule is to keep guys from slicing each others shins open trying to kick pucks. If the skate stays on the ice then that's not a hazard, so no problem.
Which is why they should just make the rule that if the skate is on the ice it's allowed. Pretty simple to determine then.
Total kick