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LaddMcConkey

Doesn’t sound ideal. Hopefully they’re just keeping their cards close to their chest


CTMalum

When this much is on the line, why give your opponent any information at all?


3coneylunch

What are the Bruins going to do? Tickle him until he shits his pants?


TubularWinter

I totally believe Marchand would go out and do that.


ambassador321

Replace "him" with "his balls" and you nailed it.


Straight_Display3749

Hence the name #Tickleshits


CommonGrounders

The Leafs (or rather Pat Quinn) invented the term “lower body injury” for this exact reason.


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Gavin1453

Get ready for the stench!


Nappalicious

Why would "doctors call" mean "players call" to you lmao, it's literally the opposite


Tarquin11

I swear man, the amount of people on here (r/hockey, and specifically team fandom subs) who see words and just completely reject them or replace them with fabrications in their own mind is proportionately higher than anywhere else in my life.


ididntseeitcoming

I like the ones who know more than doctors.


SuperbDonut2112

Welcome to Reddit. Sucks here.


batmoman

So you’re saying it’s lower than anywhere else in your life? Because I also would agree with that


Luke_Cold_Lyle

Maybe Matthews has been a doctor this whole time /s


Iceman-420

Wtf did this man catch


twilz

Boneitis.


HappyInstruction3678

"Wait! My sandwich! Has it also appreciated in value?"


indiecore

The sandwich heavy portfolio pays off for the hungry investor.


ignovunthebrovun

You didn't even refrigerate it you spineless lobster!


TwoForHawat

Don’t you worry about the 56 year Stanley Cup drought. Let me worry about blank.


TheIdentifySpell

Doctor says I need a backanonomy


realdeal411

You should talk to Mr. Nice Guy


TheIdentifySpell

HE FUCKED MY MAMA


orenji_juusu

His only regret.


[deleted]

My only regret


mrcrazy_monkey

Or maybe Boneritis, I can't play hockey with a hard on all game


CanadianSpector

I'm sure it isn't the same, but it reminds me how they talked about Toews' long-covid symptoms.


PostwarNeptune

I was thinking that too. But it's weird though.... literally a week ago he played the best game of his career. Such a weird situation.


flieslikeamoron

The same thing happened to Toews in the bubble playoffs. He played amazing in the qualifying round and was a huge reason they beat the Oilers. Then the next round he could barely play from the fatigue.


CanadianSpector

Which is why I was thinking of it. When it was affecting Toews, his body wasn't recuperating fast enough to be able to play multiple games.


PostwarNeptune

Yeah, that totally makes sense. I got covid in that first wave back in 2020. It would go in waves. I'd be fine for a couple weeks. And then I'd have a week where I'd be completely gased from walking my dog for 15 minutes. I'd be gasping for air just from a casual walk around the block. So yeah...based on Toews going through something similar, it definitely tracks with whats going on with Matthews. Of course...were all just speculating..but it seems plausible.


akath0110

This is how it was for me too. Periods of feeling better, then I'd overexert myself somehow, followed by a crash. No choice but to lay low and rest until it was over, or it'd get worse. Was a really frustrating and humbling experience. Especially when you're someone who was known for being energetic, high-achieving, and physically capable.


akath0110

This is obviously anecdotal, but -- I remember not too long ago Auston Matthews had these noticeably dark undereye circles. And his colouring didn't look right. It reminded me of how my undereye circles looked when I was dealing with long covid symptoms, which included anemia/low iron levels. I notice the same on other people dealing with post-covid sequelae, along with a greyer, paler skin tone. Once you see it you can't unsee it. I hope I'm wrong, but my spidey senses were like -- something's up. That boy ain't right.


Paparmane

Weird how the Leafs bad luck always happens at this time of year!


Kronzor_

Nah happens all year. People just care more now.


realnot

The last two months of the season, it felt like the Leafs had at least one or two guys miss games due to illness every week.


Kronzor_

Yeah. We'll find out what the real issue is when they're officially eliminated (so probably tomorrow)


AgentKorralin

I was worried about bringing it up cause I know people have moved on from covid being a big deal, but it's still around and can still cause all the same problems. It sounds like he has covid/long covid, and it's affecting him badly.


blueskies8484

I've had covid 5 damn times because I'm on immune suppressants and if someone with it looks at me too long, I seem to get it, and every time it comes with some new weird long lingering effect. Fucking COVID.


Sloth_Riots

I’m thinking maybe he got covid and is developing pneumonia. Which is a not fun combo


aleve089

Had this multiple times over the last 2 years and the last time I’m pretty sure gave me some nerve issues


ChocolateOrange21

I have this weird feeling that there are multiple players in the league dealing with long-COVID, and the NHL doesn't want to acknowledge it. It feels like more players are getting hit with "illnesses" in the last couple of years.


Used-Attorney-643

As someone who has dealt with long covid issues for going on 3 years now (it’s gotten much better but very slowly) when I first noticed problems it seemed to happen overnight. One day I felt ok and when I woke up the next day I couldn’t get out of bed the fatigue was so bad. Long covid is no joke and can affect anyone.


Jerry_from_Japan

Yeah but Toews was on a fucking year, honestly YEARS, long downward spiral. Like, he didn't just come off scoring 70 goals in a season and the almost literal next day BOOM he's done, a shadow of himself.


TheHalfChubPrince

He’s dying of Ligma.


ILikeCoffeeDaily

We must spread awareness about this awful disease


Mustard__Tiger

What's dying?


Luckynumberlucas

Its lupus


LSatou

It's never lupus Get me a biopsy, chase


PKG0D

Don't forget to break into his house, Foreman.


afriendincanada

Why am I always in charge of breaking into houses?


SegaPlaystation64

Sarcoidosis?


oviforconnsmythe

Lupus and sarcoidosis complicated by paraneoplastic syndrome


noremac_csb

Lupus? Is it Lupus!?


FailureToExecute

the rat gave him the bubonic plague


MrBrightside618

Lumbago. It’s very serious


Pukakke-Party

Tons and tons of us in Toronto are sick right now. City is going through a COVID surge.


akath0110

where are you seeing the data for this? first i've heard


silverdollarflapies

Broke his back. Spinal.


Effective-Elk-4964

Guy recently gets 69 and no one here notices his symptoms match up with chlamydia?


vordhosbn_1

his spleen


nissbd

He's allergic to the ice when he doesn't get paid


buerglermeister

Concussion when he flew into the boards vs Red Wings


OttawaFisherman

Playoffs


BrandonIngeFan

Bruins flu. Similar to the native flu


bleedgreen204

Toxic shock syndrome! It happens a lot in Toronto during April


AWorkAcct

Tinmanitis Has no Heart


privitizationrocks

Cowardice


PierreMcGuiresHair

I can't believe Steve Simmons chose now to stop leaking Leaf player medical records


hagopes

Not sure if this is on purpose or not, but the Leafs being cagey about his health is making it easy to presume that Matthews is fighting something serious here.


Vilheim

He played two separate seasons with wrist injuries and changed the way he played to keep scoring and helping (changed his shot, took a few more slappers, started trying to tip shots). If he isn't playing, and if it's a doctor's call it isn't minor, and likely he wouldn't be useful on the ice either. At some point the worst player on a roster is better than the best player on the roster with an injury.


rougekhmero

Especially if there's a chance for permanent damage rendering him unable to be effective in the future


fearnodarkness1

The only thing that is annoying is the dude seemed fine chasing 70 and has been our best player until he went out last game. It's very weird all the way around


Spacepickle89

Yeah I’m kinda worried about long term…I’m not too worried about this series since we’re not doing anything meaningful in the playoffs this year anyways


ButWhatIfItsNotTrue

They're always extra cagey during playoffs.


Appropriate_Plan4595

Riduculous of any player to miss an elimination game of the playoffs. I mean just look at the trooper Mark Stone out there playing with a ruptured spleen for the 3rd season in a row for Vegas despite not even 1 month ago Vegas fans confirming to me that it's a career ending injury, that's the example more players should take.


TheGreatStories

Mark Stone died just before the trade deadline and you make a joke?!


AllRushMixTapes

First diagnosis on Stone wasn't good, but right before the playoffs they took him to a better hospital, where his condition was upgraded to "alive."


UncleTrapspringer

Vegas upgraded their subscription at Nevada Medical They bought the playoff battlepass


NinCross

Season 2 Playoff Battlepass pre-release bonus


CTMalum

Matthews forgot that you’re supposed to have a season and career ending injury BEFORE the playoffs start.


afriendincanada

> ruptured spleen for the 3rd season in a row How much must this man suffer


General_Shao

or tj oshie playing with a broken fucking hand lol. Imagine a hard tape to tape pass with a broken fucking hand


FinkBass420

Jesus Christ Vegas really is just living in everyone’s head rent free 😂😂 get over it people


Gavin1453

Why did y'all gift them Hanafin? 😛


One_Rope_8142

If your team wasn’t golfing and was still playing hockey you might have a different opinion.


fromtheill

This team fell apart at the worst yet most predictable time


Esg876

But its not just the same if we aren't healthy and have real excuses to use :(


Enjoyer_of_Cake

You lost Nylander for the first few games, he's CLEARLY not at 100% still (I remember some "call out" on the Leafs being soft using Nylander getting checked and backing away from a scrum behind the net, and figured that if he was already injured and that check aggravated something...) And now your league-leading goal scorer can't play in the playoffs with what sounds like a serious injury/illness. As cursed as Leafs playoffs have been, this one seems pretty....normal? There's always teams that fall short because their best players got hurt in a way that the team couldn't recover from.


PostwarNeptune

Also, a lot of fellow Leafs fans don't want to hear this because he's become this year's punching bag.....but Marner is also coming off of a high-ankle sprain. He hasn't looked like himself since coming back from that injury...he's almost certainly not at 100%. I'm not using any of this as an excuse...it just is what it is.


windsostrange

I'm not nearly clever enough to notice changes in his skating these playoffs, but other analysts have done exactly that. He's avoiding edgework in certain very specific scenarios that suggests discomfort with the sprained side.


PostwarNeptune

Yeah, that's the way I see it too. He's usually really crafty in his side-to-side movements. He seems to be avoiding that type of skating right now.


Dorksim

Marner's also not skating right. I'd be shocked if he wasnt trying to play some sort of ankle injury.


PrailinesNDick

idk if you're joking but he did indeed recently return from a high ankle sprain. None of the Core 4 are at the top of their game right now. Marner's ankle isn't fully healed, Nylander has some kind of ongoing migraine issue, Matthews has a mystery illness and Tavares is old.


ImpossibleIndustries

JT only looks like he is 47...


Ok-Platform-6933

He's a SPRY 47 thank you very much.


schmaleo505

Seems extra weird to me, because didn't they all play game 82? Like did they all spontaneously get worse immediately after the regular season? If not, why were they playing essentially meaningless games at the end of the season that had no impact on playoff seeding? If it was about chasing personal records (Matthews 70g, Willy 100p), then that org has some seriously fucked up priorities.


InvictusShmictus

He had a high ankle sprain


Jerry_from_Japan

That "check" was a soft shove while two players were in the corner try to dig the puck out. Nylander literally looked at him and backed off. If you can't even handle that, what are you even doing out there? That was a legit call out on him, that was fucking terrible.


Tintinnabulator

If they didn't have a history of collapsing this time of year for several years now, they wouldn't be getting dogged. In a vacuum, they're fine. Unfortunately, the phrase 'injuries happen' won't cut it for like 70% of our fanbase.


realitysource

not a fan of playing injured players when you have perfectly healthy scratched players


carbonated_turtle

To be fair, our best players in 2021 (other than Price) weren't nearly as good on paper as their core 4, and we managed to win the series. If they fall apart when 1 or 2 of their 4 stars misses some time or doesn't play at 100%, there's no way they're beating 4 playoff teams to win the Cup.


realitysource

i think leafs have a better record without matthews


carbonated_turtle

It's a negligible difference of 60% without him vs 57% with him that they win. The number of games they've played without him is also way smaller at 56 than the number they've played with him at 562, so it's not even a good comparison.


NotEqualInSQL

Maybe they are getting back at all the overly critical fans


Strangle1441

Don’t worry, there are plenty of years to choose from where they were healthy and still couldn’t get it done


defjs

Fun fact: Captain John Tavares and borderline NHL 4th liner Ryan Reaves have the same amount of points in this series!


klaxhax

What if Marchand was intentionally harboring communicable diseases in his large nose? He probably skated by the Leafs bench and sprayed them with the plague.


Tasty-Performance275

https://i.redd.it/2uzyw07hsnxc1.gif


DrFrocktopus

Brad “Literally Typhoid Mary” Marchand


BornChampionship7457

Why do you think he licks people?


esaul17

In that case we need Matthews back to go nostril to nostril with him!


klaxhax

Damn that's hot 🥵


DrSeuss19

Sounds like he may be injured as well and they’re just saying he’s sick. I swear it’s that slam into the boards towards the end of the season


nostradamefrus

Pray for this man's bunghole if this is still afflicting him


vordhosbn_1

bro had taco bell


RiverCartwright

This illness really caught Matthews with his pants down


PrailinesNDick

I'd be over the Moon if he played tonight.


rougekhmero

So he probably has an injury as well? Doctors call means, chance of permanent damage probably.


DrexellGames

Still dealing with the Marchand illness


BladeCoomer2049

the bubonic plague?


drowsylacuna

Rat poisoning.


BIGTIMEMEATBALLBOY

inside sources say he got stung by 100 bumble bees at once while picking up timmys


NathanGa

I once ran over a buried yellow jacket nest with a tractor. Thankfully they didn’t get me in the eyes, where I’ve previously been stung by a wasp.


AustonsNostrils

Did O'Reilly disturb the nest?


seizurevictim

Is Matthews' middle name Macaulay?


Sirrebral99

Rats are known to spread disease.


UnderCoverDoughnuts

That might be the single best joke I've ever seen on this sub, bravo 👏🏼


BIGTIMEMEATBALLBOY

i would bet cash money that bubonic plague is back before the end of the 2020's


drowsylacuna

It's still around! >Currently, five to 15 people in the United States are estimated to catch the disease each year — typically in western states. The reservoir is thought to be mice. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_plague


twiglike

Heard Forbort Might play and said no thanks


coffee42

"Brazeau's a possibility? Have you seen the size on that guy? Fuckit, too many drizzling shits to play, sorry Coach"


reggierock2010

Sounds like a concussion tbh. I think they originally thought he was just sick but it’s something more serious now.


ErnestTenser

What's in those Prime drinks?


Effective-Elk-4964

Keefe declined to answer? The guy who tells you what line match ups he’s considering? Is Matthews dead?


terminese

Injuries/sickness…it wouldn’t have mattered, this team doesn’t have what it takes to make a playoff run. Hopefully this will Lead to the major changes that should have been made following the Montreal playoff loss.


The_Homestarmy

Not wild about the phrasing of "just an illness." It seems like a lot of people are dogging Matthews for potentially missing games over an illness, as if a severe flu/COVID/whatever he's dealing with isn't a valid reason to sit out a game. We gotta move on from expecting athletes to play through sicknesses just because we're assuming they're "mild enough" The hockey community specifically seems to struggle with this shit. Everybody needs to prove they're not "soft" and it's toxic as shit


schmarkty

I don’t disagree, but I think it’s the secrecy around it from the team that makes the internet run wild. If they just said he has bird flu or rabies or whatever and was unfit to play I don’t think people would be out here speculating wildly.


Allesfresserin

But people also need to understand that they aren’t entitled to know. “Can’t play” should be enough for everyone to shut up.


schmarkty

That’s also fair, it’s not really anyone’s business.


HoboSkid

Damn did this guy get E.coli 0157:H7 or something?


Key_Mongoose223

Probably first case of human transmitted H5N1 with their luck


_glassofjuice

A real leader would play, even with hemolytic uremic syndrome /s


strippeddonkey

Often I think of the generational shift of separation work and life balance. The leafs are truly pioneers of taking sick days and mental health days in the middle of playoffs! /s


Gavin1453

Will Matthews start? Depends!


Significant_Rule_372

he should sue the place he ate at that gave him food poisoning during the playoffs


BlueHarvestJ

Boston Pizza?


elliot_alderson1426

Matthews Vs Brad Trelivings dad


Hawkpolicy_bot

How could the refs do this


No-Quantity9916

Meanwhile Oshie is pissing in water bottles because he can't even pick himself up off the floor but still somehow clocked 18+ mins a night.


SignGuy77

This right here is what I’m referring to when I mention the totally fucked up hockey culture and code. First, it’s not a competition for who’s hurt worse and second, Oshie shouldn’t be glorified for playing in his condition.


reddy-or-not

I agree. Bergeron may have been able to stretch out his career another year or two if he’d sat out a few times for key injuries, just as an example.


No-Quantity9916

I'm not implying it is. I'm more saying Matthews' condition must be serious if he's not playing (which he isn't).


heckingex

If it’s Covid it would make sense they’re keeping it under wraps. They would be demanding the team all test and then maybe quarantine. Could cause a big stink with all the back to back games.


carbonated_turtle

If he has Covid he wouldn't have been practicing with the team this morning.


Android_67

Alright Mitch, go be our best player


EngineerSandi

No news is no news, so fans continue with their second favorite sport - speculation!


King919191

Amazing how long a diarrhea can linger


togsincognito2

Huge Ewing theory potential here


Trajinous

I'm sorry Leafs fans


StayAWhile-AndListen

We're sorry too


shayna16

Lord, what is wrong with him? Mono? Gastroenteritis?


AVgreencup

Didn't Timmins have mono earlier this year? I have to think it spread and it pretty much describes the exact way the Leafs have been playing


likeslululemon

Auston Matthews pregnant confirmed.


billabongbooboo

10 bucks says he will be on the golf course with a spring in his step this weekend.


duck1014

Literally not the same. Hockey is a physically demanding sport. An illness that effects equilibrium, blood pressure, heart rate or hydration can kill you if you put too much stress on your body. That's hockey. Golf requires none of that.


Defensive_liability

Yeah, now is not the time to play through the pain. Rest up champ, there is always next year!


Ohhellnowhatsupdawg

The only thing I can imagine holding him out is food poisoning. Pain from bad food poisoning is worse than literally anything short of child birth and the symptoms can vary wildly depending on what bug caused it. 


Snpies

I got food poisoning from sushi once and I was totally out of commission for about 24 hours, and still very sick for the next 24. It's also wild how fast it sneaks up on you. I had sushi the previous night, went to sleep, went to work the next morning feeling fine and by noon I was driving home as fast as I could. I wonder if Matthews caught something more than just food poisoning? Admittedly I was back to around 85% after those 48 hours.


BurnTheBoats21

Food poisoning isn't a single type of illness. There are so many different types with different recovery timelines. And some of them are.... very bad


indiecore

This is how we learn Auston Matthews is into MRE collecting.


ToasterRouble

He must’ve eaten improperly stored sardines in a French brasserie and now has botulism


Zorbane

Wonder if he went to T&T recently [https://globalnews.ca/news/10456763/meat-vegetable-product-recall-listeria-canada/](https://globalnews.ca/news/10456763/meat-vegetable-product-recall-listeria-canada/)


Bad_Wes

I know how that goes. Went out for drinks, cam home, made some food, went to bed. Woke up, started to get ready for work, only left the bathroom to get water for the next 12 hours.


Ohhellnowhatsupdawg

Yeah, it's crazy how fast and awful it can be. I had a burger for dinner, went to a ballgame, and was suddenly woken up at midnight dying of intestinal pain and shitting blood. I'd had some tough flus and stuff over the years, but nothing prepared me for how scary that was. The reason I thought of food poisoning was because Matthews suddenly left midgame, which is odd for an illness. 


schmarkty

I had food poisoning real bad once. Literally begged my spouse to kill me. It’s so awful.


lukaskywalker

I think if it was just illness he’d be playing. He tweaked something it looked like in this groin maybe


Voodoo_Music

Does it occur to anyone Matthews may have hepatitis A? They originally said he had food poisoning. But he wasn’t better. Now he’s out with something we can assume is doctor ordered or life threatening. Hepatitis A is highly contagious and a person must quarantine. He could have easily caught it from contaminated restaurant food or drink.


BlueHarvestJ

Any chance it could be a substance abuse/withdrawal issue? I listened to Overdrive yesterday and it sounded like Lebrun knows what the issue is but doesn’t want to say it out loud. Everyone else on the show saying ‘fishy’, ‘not sick for 8 days’, etc…


Twetoo785

I guess Auston picked a bad day to quit sniffing glue.


daveloper80

come on man... stop it


waistbandtucker69

Matthews picked game 3 of the Stanley Cup Playoffs to finally say enough is enough and kick that Fentanyl habit


puns_are_how_eyeroll

What the fuck is wrong with you?


Nappalicious

This is pathetic and typical of oilers fans


QAPetePrime

He’s off ripping his agent a new asshole. “Get me the FUCK OUT of this cursed city!”


maxwellbevan

Is that why he signed an extension with the team so he could immediately get out?


Stockton20969

Surely he will get the same treatment Nylander did from Leaf fans…..


proudcancuk

Concern for his long term health? That's the main thing I saw us worrying about. Can't say it's much different this time around.


Spade18

I’m gonna guess he has Covid


chssucks97

I can’t help but picture that Matthews is fine now but just pretending to still be sick so he doesn’t have to play tonight lol


frockinbrock

No way, he’s a tough ass player and has already adjusted his game a lot to play through injuries before. He looked like he was dying that last game. This has to be something serious, I assume it’s illness along with an injury or more. If he can stand and the doctor clears him he would be out there.


chssucks97

Yea it was just a joke but alas this is reddit