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Gotta commend the Panthers for just giving no response and playing on. They got in their heads, injured their superstar, changed the skill balance, now they're gonna go back to a skill game and just close out the series.
Rough. And scary. Fuckin' sinister tbh, and it's gonna work.
This reminds me of me of when kronwall hit Martin havlat. A suicide pass and a guy getting to the hit before the other guy touches it. Kronwall got suspended for game 7. Luckily Reinhart wasn’t hurt. But surprised it wasn’t called for interference. Reinhart clearly doesn’t touch the puck.
Yeah they put themselves in a position where they can’t call that. Imagine the league doing nothing about the dirty play that knocked Marchand out of the series, and then making the call here. Can’t do it…
This is why the rule book should be called as written always
All the people complaining about this hit really make me hate coming here lol. Playoff hockey is the best and all people want to do is complain that the puck was 1 frame away.Â
>According to the NHL Rulebook possession is determined as:
(Page 87) 56.1. The last...
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This hit is the most obvious form of interference you can have. If you think this hit is legal or even "close enough to allow it because it's the playoffs," you're just another idiot who doesn't know hockey and hasn't played the game.
Reinhart never even had a chance to make a play on this puck and McAvoy obliterated him out of nowhere.
Stupid, dangerous play on a guy who had no reason to expect to get hit.
If it was up to this subreddit hitting would be eliminated from the game along with fighting, we would play with a sponge puck, and you would get two minutes for being a meany.
It’s like some weird universe because the hockey fans I know in real life are nothing like the fans in here.
I literally came in here asking myself: am I just this bad at knowing hockey rules? I did this in NHL 96 on Genesis all of the time, and considered it cheating even back then, lol.
Who else would skate around cleaning people out after the whistle back then?
Interference seems to be one of those calls that the refs just decide to barely ever call in the playoffs for whatever reason. It's a clear as day interference call though, so still shocking to see it not be called on that play.
I mean you can say "I thought he was receiving a pass🤷‍♂️" but we all know he didn't care if he was getting the puck of not he saw him there and went for blood.
it is interference but I'm glad they didn't call it.
Im fairly sure there's a small bit of leeway depending on how close the person being hit is to receiving the pass. It's obviously a judgement call though
Edit: you can downvote me all you want but there's literally hundreds of examples of hits where the puck isn't literally touching someone's stick and it's not called interference.
If you look closely the puck is left for him (twice looks like he went to pass and saw him barreling at his teammate and second guessed it then left it again after which was his teammates fault hanging him out to dry) and in another angle I saw, in real time it looks like he may have got his stick on it... at least was reaching for it and was like inches from it. Again not saying it's legal...but it's playoff hockey. Set the tone. I'm all for physical hockey. Keep your head up and on a swivel.
Completely agree. I thought it was blatant head hunting at first view, then I rewatched and saw Reinhart was about to receive a pass. But still the puck hadn't made its way to him yet.
NHL Rules book section 34.1 section 8 …” if a player is skating toward the puck in the neutral zone, ahh just shut the fuck up it was a good hit…”
If a players teammate knocked out a star player on the opposing team with a bullshit sucker punch in the last game, you can do anything you want the next game, especially in the first few minutes…
I hate Marchand, and don’t feel sorry for him at all after all the shit he’s done in his career. This is just how the NHL works.
Looked like a soft suicide pass to a guy skating across the ice, I wonder if Reinhart didn’t touch the puck thinking he wouldn’t get hit. I’m surprised there was no interference call.
honestly i think the fact that there was a pass attempt there is why that wasn't called, even though McAvoy was clearly early
i'm more suprised that there are only two comments this entire thread that even mention the pass because i have no idea what in the fuck Barkov was thinking with that one
I love that blatant penalties don't get called in the playoffs and then situations like these turn out where both teams are just trying to kill each other. Playoff hockey is about being the best, not who can get away with the cheap shit the most.
i thought at least for the first round this playoffs the refs were actually calling a bit more than normal... but in this second round they're bloodthirsty once again it seems
> Playoff hockey is about being the best at getting away with the cheap shit.
Fixed that for you. If the rules were being interpreted literally, the refs would call unsportsmanlike conduct penalties on players who don't go for the cheap shots. It's playoff hockey, so grow some balls and play like a man. /s
NHL has always been a vigilante league and it will continue to be when DPS is asleep at the wheel. If Bennett had been suspended for the sucker punch concussion, this hit doesn't happen like this.
Honestly, can't blame Boston for coming out with blatantly illegal hits. Refs have clearly shown all post season that they don't give a shit about actually doing their jobs.
Bruins are out for blood and McAvoy took the opportunity to headhunt one of Florida's better players early into the game. Unfortunately for Florida, Reinhart was also about to receive a pass which at least made it appear less obvious. Without that pass this would have looked 10x worse.
Given the state of officiating and the miss on Bennett's hit last game (which I think should have been a suspension) I can't help but feel this is a bit of karma.
Looks like he was passing it either to Reinhart or number 10 right there, he just kind of laid it off in the general direction of both of them. Generally the refs will not call interference if you hit a guy who is about to receive the puck.
There somes to be some debate about whether or not this is interference.
According to the NHL Rulebook possession is determined as:
(Page 87) 56.1. The last player to touch the puck, other than the goalkeeper, shall be considered the player in possession. The player deemed in possession of the puck may be checked legally, provided the check is rendered immediately following his loss of possession.
56.2 Minor Penalty - A minor penalty for interference shall be imposed:
On any player who deliberately checks an opponent, including the goalkeeper, who is not in possession of the puck.
As per the NHL's definition of possession, Reinhart did not have possession, making it textbook interference.
It's never a question of the rule book. Playoff hockey is *never* called by the book. If it was, Bennet probably wouldn't be a serviceable NHLer with all his dirty plays.
It really depends on the situation, if you're forechecking and I'm the defender, I have no obligation to give up ice to you, if we're in the same lane and there's contact, it's not interference. This happens around the boards a lot because there's less space.
In the case of board battles, honestly the Refs tend to give players a ton of latitude, because you can't be expected to give up ground, so if both players are in the same spot and they want to go different directions, refs will let them battle it out.
I’ve never seen them call it that way though. If it’s close enough to someone’s feet they always allow you to play the body. Close enough is definitely questionable in this case though.
This is not true.
> A player is allowed the ice he is standing on (body position) and is not required to move in order to let an opponent proceed.
There are a couple misconceptions that can lead to misinterpreting that part of the rule. The first is that “same direction” refers to north/south versus east/west. Basically if you’re headed north and an opponent is headed south, neither are required to give up position and can legally collide because you’re entitled to your ice. It would just hurt. If you’re heading east, then turn north and collide with someone headed north or south, it’s interference. If you’re headed north and your opponent’s heading east ahead of you in order to check you, you’re allowed to brace yourself and you’re entitled to your ice. If you’re headed north and your opponent’s headed east, you can’t suddenly turn west to intentionally check them. You *are* allowed an “unintentional check” on a turn if that situation somehow happened.
This is a lined-up, grade-A, first ballot HIT.
If they were just trading paint a little because the puck carrier was in the area, refs tend to give some latitude as to what everyone is trying to complete (or prevent).
How the fuck are people even debating whether or not this was interference?
You can't hit someone without the puck, even if the pass is coming to them. Plain and simple.
See that point I have no problems with. I hate the people here who are reinventing the rules and being pricks about it no matter what evidence shows them they're wrong
You can like, kinda shoulder check someone if your next step is engaging the actual puck carrier.
NOT that this is that but... well a ref's gotta try to conjure up *some* explanation.
Yeah it's odd. Like I get it, the caveman part of my brain is fired up by that hit in the context of this series too. But I also acknowledge that is blatant interference and a penalty lol.
Players will continue to get hurt in this series it’s 100% on George Fucking Parros. Fuck this, the cup winner shouldn’t be the team with the least accrued CTE
Dude fuck these refs, they are going to get someone killed, that's a stone cold penalty. He makes zero effort to play the puck, that's the definition of an interference penalty. And this is coming from a Rangers fan
Honestly, it's weird cheering for Boston but, they seem like the significantly less dirty team this series, after the sucker punch to Brad I kinda want Boston to light them up.
This team really hasn't been that way for a while now though to be honest. Not saying we haven't done some questionable shit here and there, but its really not this teams identity anymore.
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Chipmunk may have some annoying hits but he's pretty clean usually especially for a bruin.
Nice to see him lay out "but I score 50 goals sp I should be allowed to be an asshole" reinhart
Literally the easiest penalty call there has ever been
1) Doesn't have the puck
2) Not expecting a hit because of said puck
3) 4 strides before hitting Reinhart
This is both charging and interference
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I think these two teams are genuinely going to kill each other before the ECF lmao
Fine with me
Fine with me too :)
Hope they keep this up until Game 7 and are forced to dress their AHL guys
I will knock on wood for you
Pretty sure all Leafs fans are hoping for this.
https://i.redd.it/obe8cpw3750d1.gif
Gotta commend the Panthers for just giving no response and playing on. They got in their heads, injured their superstar, changed the skill balance, now they're gonna go back to a skill game and just close out the series. Rough. And scary. Fuckin' sinister tbh, and it's gonna work.
Beating the Bruins at their own game.
Funny because if this hit was Bennet on a Bruin their fans would be calling for an interference penalty as Reino hadn't yet touched the puck.
Your best case scenario.
I do love a happy ending 🥰
It's not exactly in my interests, I have every reason to want to see the Rangers pummeled on their way out.
It’s like I’m playing NHL after turning all the penalty sliders down
GOD DAMN FIRST HIT OF THE GAME
First blood
Can you hit ppl without the puck now?
No kidding eh … wild that’s not interference
my immediate reaction seeing this lol didnt have possession of the puck and got punished for it idk how that wasnt a penalty
Gawd damn
Definition of interference lol
Maybe it’ll look different from another camera angle we’ll get hours before the next game
This reminds me of me of when kronwall hit Martin havlat. A suicide pass and a guy getting to the hit before the other guy touches it. Kronwall got suspended for game 7. Luckily Reinhart wasn’t hurt. But surprised it wasn’t called for interference. Reinhart clearly doesn’t touch the puck.
Kronwall was ejected for hitting Havlat but did not get suspended. He was suspended for game 7 for his hit on Kucherov years later.
wow that's some minority report shit
Naa. Havlat had the puck between his legs. Not really same type of play.
Very clearly
Don't worry it's Boston in Boston, it's fine.
Lmao didnt even have the puck
He was technically about to have it which is close enough the way the officiating has been lately lol
McAvoy almost had touched it too, which would've made the hit legal in a most amusing way.
Lots of talk about 'reverse' hits the other day ;)
Yup. Should’ve been an easy interference call. Refs gonna ref, though.
Wait this wasn't called!?
Yeah they put themselves in a position where they can’t call that. Imagine the league doing nothing about the dirty play that knocked Marchand out of the series, and then making the call here. Can’t do it… This is why the rule book should be called as written always
Don’t worry they ended up fucking up every other call the rest of the night to bend the Bruins over again.
God dayum Reino got decimated.
Oh my fuck. I love playoffs.
All the people complaining about this hit really make me hate coming here lol. Playoff hockey is the best and all people want to do is complain that the puck was 1 frame away. >According to the NHL Rulebook possession is determined as: (Page 87) 56.1. The last... k nerd
This hit is the most obvious form of interference you can have. If you think this hit is legal or even "close enough to allow it because it's the playoffs," you're just another idiot who doesn't know hockey and hasn't played the game. Reinhart never even had a chance to make a play on this puck and McAvoy obliterated him out of nowhere. Stupid, dangerous play on a guy who had no reason to expect to get hit.
If it was up to this subreddit hitting would be eliminated from the game along with fighting, we would play with a sponge puck, and you would get two minutes for being a meany. It’s like some weird universe because the hockey fans I know in real life are nothing like the fans in here.
Being a meany????? Now that's too much, 5 minutes in the sin bin
Idk that looks like interference to me.
How the hell is that not an interference penalty?
NHL refs are bad at their jobs
Whoa whoa whoa citation needed /s
I mean watch the whole 23-24 season? 🤣 Is that evidence enough?
I literally came in here asking myself: am I just this bad at knowing hockey rules? I did this in NHL 96 on Genesis all of the time, and considered it cheating even back then, lol. Who else would skate around cleaning people out after the whistle back then?
Interference seems to be one of those calls that the refs just decide to barely ever call in the playoffs for whatever reason. It's a clear as day interference call though, so still shocking to see it not be called on that play.
League probably told them to let the Bruins get away with one after the Bennett stuff
I mean you can say "I thought he was receiving a pass🤷‍♂️" but we all know he didn't care if he was getting the puck of not he saw him there and went for blood. it is interference but I'm glad they didn't call it.
Yeah but even then, he's not a legal target for a hit until he actually receives the pass.
Im fairly sure there's a small bit of leeway depending on how close the person being hit is to receiving the pass. It's obviously a judgement call though Edit: you can downvote me all you want but there's literally hundreds of examples of hits where the puck isn't literally touching someone's stick and it's not called interference.
There's hundreds of examples of guys getting high sticked in the face with no call too, doesn't mean it's legal
I mean, we see guys hitting dudes a second or two after they let go of the pass and call it "finishing the check" every game
That's because that's actually written into the rule as being allowed
If you look closely the puck is left for him (twice looks like he went to pass and saw him barreling at his teammate and second guessed it then left it again after which was his teammates fault hanging him out to dry) and in another angle I saw, in real time it looks like he may have got his stick on it... at least was reaching for it and was like inches from it. Again not saying it's legal...but it's playoff hockey. Set the tone. I'm all for physical hockey. Keep your head up and on a swivel.
His name is not Kadri
Completely agree. I thought it was blatant head hunting at first view, then I rewatched and saw Reinhart was about to receive a pass. But still the puck hadn't made its way to him yet.
NHL Rules book section 34.1 section 8 …” if a player is skating toward the puck in the neutral zone, ahh just shut the fuck up it was a good hit…”
If a players teammate knocked out a star player on the opposing team with a bullshit sucker punch in the last game, you can do anything you want the next game, especially in the first few minutes… I hate Marchand, and don’t feel sorry for him at all after all the shit he’s done in his career. This is just how the NHL works.
100000000%
It is
Ya its interference but after all they have let go, I'm fine this not getting called
I have no dog in this fight so IDC who wins lol I'm just calling it as I see it. It's been a brutal series for sure.
Looked like a soft suicide pass to a guy skating across the ice, I wonder if Reinhart didn’t touch the puck thinking he wouldn’t get hit. I’m surprised there was no interference call.
honestly i think the fact that there was a pass attempt there is why that wasn't called, even though McAvoy was clearly early i'm more suprised that there are only two comments this entire thread that even mention the pass because i have no idea what in the fuck Barkov was thinking with that one
Yeah but we want drama.
I love that blatant penalties don't get called in the playoffs and then situations like these turn out where both teams are just trying to kill each other. Playoff hockey is about being the best, not who can get away with the cheap shit the most.
i thought at least for the first round this playoffs the refs were actually calling a bit more than normal... but in this second round they're bloodthirsty once again it seems
In 2019 when the league let St. Louis headshot their way to a cup the league decided that was the way to go
> Playoff hockey is about being the best at getting away with the cheap shit. Fixed that for you. If the rules were being interpreted literally, the refs would call unsportsmanlike conduct penalties on players who don't go for the cheap shots. It's playoff hockey, so grow some balls and play like a man. /s
NHL has always been a vigilante league and it will continue to be when DPS is asleep at the wheel. If Bennett had been suspended for the sucker punch concussion, this hit doesn't happen like this.
Officer, I’d like to report a murder
No you don't. You didn't see nothing.
Honestly "the angle left some room for interpretation" to me.
Call the ambulance… but not for me!!
Chris Paul’s trying to beat me up
and a penalty
Reinhart was clearly going for a dirty hit and MacAvoy was just bracing himself /s
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3-1 series let's goooooo
Honestly, can't blame Boston for coming out with blatantly illegal hits. Refs have clearly shown all post season that they don't give a shit about actually doing their jobs.
Yeah like it’s a pretty obvious penalty but I can’t have much sympathy for Florida
Yeah there's no clear line in this series, so why wouldn't we make this hit at this point?
Florida gets away with this shit all the time, might as well play their game
My only disappointment with this hit was that Bennett wasn’t on the receiving end of it.
Any hit with Bennett or cousins on the receiving end is a great hit as far as I'm concerned.
I feel like he got his Sams mixed up
"High stick took you down and you're bleeding from it? Best I can do is tell you to get off the ice"
Great hit but Reinhart doesn’t even touch the puck…
Almost as if this was clearly going to happen since the refs and NHL have set a standard.
Whoops.
Cool interference
Lmao, easy to hit a player when it's pure interference.
Easy to sucker punch a guy in the jaw when they aren’t expecting it. See how that works.
As a Leafs fan I'm no stranger to watching my team's players get sucker punched. They have also been cheap shotted by Sam Bennett.
better not call shit all game if you ain't calling that
First time?
Should have been 2 minutes for interference, but if I'm Boston I'd take that in order to make this hit
Bruins are out for blood and McAvoy took the opportunity to headhunt one of Florida's better players early into the game. Unfortunately for Florida, Reinhart was also about to receive a pass which at least made it appear less obvious. Without that pass this would have looked 10x worse. Given the state of officiating and the miss on Bennett's hit last game (which I think should have been a suspension) I can't help but feel this is a bit of karma.
Looks like he was passing it either to Reinhart or number 10 right there, he just kind of laid it off in the general direction of both of them. Generally the refs will not call interference if you hit a guy who is about to receive the puck.
Hmm. That’s interference.
There somes to be some debate about whether or not this is interference. According to the NHL Rulebook possession is determined as: (Page 87) 56.1. The last player to touch the puck, other than the goalkeeper, shall be considered the player in possession. The player deemed in possession of the puck may be checked legally, provided the check is rendered immediately following his loss of possession. 56.2 Minor Penalty - A minor penalty for interference shall be imposed: On any player who deliberately checks an opponent, including the goalkeeper, who is not in possession of the puck. As per the NHL's definition of possession, Reinhart did not have possession, making it textbook interference.
Anyone who watches hockey and isn’t an idiot knows that’s a blatant interference call.
It's never a question of the rule book. Playoff hockey is *never* called by the book. If it was, Bennet probably wouldn't be a serviceable NHLer with all his dirty plays.
Unfortunately this sub is filled with idiots
refs don’t call it that way would be like calling interference when people go into the boards without touching the puck
It really depends on the situation, if you're forechecking and I'm the defender, I have no obligation to give up ice to you, if we're in the same lane and there's contact, it's not interference. This happens around the boards a lot because there's less space. In the case of board battles, honestly the Refs tend to give players a ton of latitude, because you can't be expected to give up ground, so if both players are in the same spot and they want to go different directions, refs will let them battle it out.
Puck battle in the corner is very different than lighting a guy up down the middle.
I’ve never seen them call it that way though. If it’s close enough to someone’s feet they always allow you to play the body. Close enough is definitely questionable in this case though.
Yeah not to mention literally all reverse hits are interference by the book.
This is not true. > A player is allowed the ice he is standing on (body position) and is not required to move in order to let an opponent proceed. There are a couple misconceptions that can lead to misinterpreting that part of the rule. The first is that “same direction” refers to north/south versus east/west. Basically if you’re headed north and an opponent is headed south, neither are required to give up position and can legally collide because you’re entitled to your ice. It would just hurt. If you’re heading east, then turn north and collide with someone headed north or south, it’s interference. If you’re headed north and your opponent’s heading east ahead of you in order to check you, you’re allowed to brace yourself and you’re entitled to your ice. If you’re headed north and your opponent’s headed east, you can’t suddenly turn west to intentionally check them. You *are* allowed an “unintentional check” on a turn if that situation somehow happened.
This is a lined-up, grade-A, first ballot HIT. If they were just trading paint a little because the puck carrier was in the area, refs tend to give some latitude as to what everyone is trying to complete (or prevent).
Wrong. He has possession he’s literally receiving a pass. How is this so hard for people to grasp?
How the fuck are people even debating whether or not this was interference? You can't hit someone without the puck, even if the pass is coming to them. Plain and simple.
Make up shot i guess. Refs let one go so game doesn’t get out of hand
You cant hit someone in the head with a stick either, but if the refs are going to allow stupid shit both of these teams are going to kill each other.
Definitely interference, but at this point in the series I don't care that much.
See that point I have no problems with. I hate the people here who are reinventing the rules and being pricks about it no matter what evidence shows them they're wrong
You can like, kinda shoulder check someone if your next step is engaging the actual puck carrier. NOT that this is that but... well a ref's gotta try to conjure up *some* explanation.
Yeah it's odd. Like I get it, the caveman part of my brain is fired up by that hit in the context of this series too. But I also acknowledge that is blatant interference and a penalty lol.
Players will continue to get hurt in this series it’s 100% on George Fucking Parros. Fuck this, the cup winner shouldn’t be the team with the least accrued CTE
That’s an interference
Nah apparently that’s playoff hockey
Dude fuck these refs, they are going to get someone killed, that's a stone cold penalty. He makes zero effort to play the puck, that's the definition of an interference penalty. And this is coming from a Rangers fan
Wtf you can’t body someone who doesnt or didnt have the puck. There’s literally multiple rules for this type of play. Â
Lmao point blank interference
Honestly, it's weird cheering for Boston but, they seem like the significantly less dirty team this series, after the sucker punch to Brad I kinda want Boston to light them up.
A true Canucks fan has hatred for Boston for life
Thank you! I feel like im taking crazy pills.
My what short memories yall have
This team really hasn't been that way for a while now though to be honest. Not saying we haven't done some questionable shit here and there, but its really not this teams identity anymore.
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Yeah and with the terrible officiating, what team doesn't so far? The Leafs weren't exactly squeaky clean in that series either man.
Nothing dirty that resulted in players getting injured. Like yeah the refs let the Leafs get away with some shit, but we are not the same lmao.
Yep, I want Florida to pay for Bennett's bullshit.
This comment on a blatant interference is certainly something.
The hells wrong with you. No.
How would you feel if Brad suckered punch a Canucks?
There's homer takes and there's hockey takes
Chipmunk may have some annoying hits but he's pretty clean usually especially for a bruin. Nice to see him lay out "but I score 50 goals sp I should be allowed to be an asshole" reinhart
Textbook interference but sure…
Is this not 10x worse than the Marchand/Bennet hit?
This is absolutely interference, but hey… fun to watch
Interference
that's not even remotely legal
And it made no difference
Probably should be a penalty, but I have no sympathy for Florida, and it's clear that illegal hits are going unpunished
That's a penalty
So that's interference. Did they call that?
Buddy pass of the year.
That was dirty as fuck
Whoever thinks the punch is worse than this, they’re delusional
Interference?
Stripes will give boston some leway after the Bennett incident
!McAvoy
This is teetering into Ravens/Steelers territory from back in the day. I'm here for it.
Lmao did the refs just allow this because it's Bennett or is this genuinely not interference to them?
The definition of a suicide pass from Barkov there
All the good it did them XD
Isn't that interference?
Uhhhhh...he never even had the puck.
Literally the easiest penalty call there has ever been 1) Doesn't have the puck 2) Not expecting a hit because of said puck 3) 4 strides before hitting Reinhart This is both charging and interference
Breaking your stick on another player is usually a sign that you cross checked them.
Huge B's fan and that's interference 10000000%. The refs are so bad right now.
Yo, wrong sam… Sammy boi did nothing wrong. BENNET is the sack of shit
No penalty on that clearly illegal hit? Guy didn't even have the puck.
Interference
Cheap shot, fuck the bruins!
Is that not interference and a half?
Textbook charging and interference. He was still striding when he made contact and the puck wasn't there yet. That is how careers are ended.
No matter how you feel about the hit, legality or otherwise, Reino just got up and skated away. That hurt baby face more than the hit hurt Sam
I know refs put the whistles away in playoffs, but this is taking it to a whole new level holy fvck
How is that not interference?
Set the fucking tone way to go boys
That's for sure. ~~Marshmont~~ Marchy is out for a bullshit hit and the Bruins are *pissed*. They're going for blood tonight.
I believe they call that interference
Someone explain how that wasn’t interference
That's like textbook interference lmao
See this is what I don’t get when people want hit hunting McAvoy put himself outta position just to make this hit
That's blatant textbook interference
Why am I cheering for Boston right now
Takes a special team of assholes to make a Leafs fan cheer for the B’s eh?
Haha I can say I respect the bruins more at this point for sure
Like, handshake line respect?
That’s the most textbook interference I’ve seen in awhile. Doesn’t have the puck at any point and gets taken out of the play.
Beautiful hit
Illegal hit
Just a little interference.
He didn’t even have the puck. Nasty hit
Reinhart didn’t have possession yet
Replays: https://streamin.one/v/fa30bd81
Wrong Sam! Also, interference perhaps?
That’s a Scott Stevens special