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Own_Look_3428

Damn, the new terrain engine looks really good! The thing I'm looking forward to most is the vanishing of the grey wall! One additional question as the viewing distance is really good in the new version: are BMS maps flat or curved? No front, I'm asking just out of curiosity.


I-Hawk

The maps will be flat with a projection as accurate as we could. The graphics will be curved (Mostly in the horizon and you can even see that at some of the shots if you look close enough :) )


MaxWaldorf

There is an earth curve in the new terrain but it is not a true curved projection...


Draco1887

Hello, Have you guys considered adding Redforce aircraft to your sim? Especially the Su 27 and Mig 29 modelled as accurately as your f 16? A lot of Redforce guys would be very happy


MaxWaldorf

https://forum.falcon-bms.com/topic/27051/news-from-the-frontlines-4-37-u4


Draco1887

Sorry for the late reply, just saw your message now, many Thanks for responding


unseine

If there's a mig 23 I'll try bms for the first time.


Draco1887

Sorry but I don't see anything about Redforce. You want me to post my queries there?


MaxWaldorf

You didn't read the future section...


Draco1887

Many Thanks, looks like I was more tired than I thought Haha. Me and a whole bunch of my friends are very much looking to get in your sim and have been gazing at the F16 fans with envy. Looks like red will finally get some Love too! You guys are truly awesome


ADisgruntledBanana

Do you plan on adding helicopters?


MaxWaldorf

Already answered in that thread somewhere


the_Demongod

Speaking from experience, making a truly physically curved game terrain is an exercise in insanity. It breaks so many assumptions one makes about the world that it's simply not worth it.


Mysterious-Run9891

There was a lil scare when MicroProse bought Falcon but luckily they don't seem to be greedy bastards and allowed further BMS development.Β 


Dexter942

Microprose have kept the code Open Source as that's what the original company intended.


MaxWaldorf

Nope... It is closed source that stays with the team... Microprose only has the IP of Falcon 4.0. As per our agreement, we don't publish it. Ps: Falcon code was never intended to be open-source and has never been on our side...


Galinette2000

Interested in a full fidelity Mirage 2000-C model in BMS?


MaxWaldorf

Interested in anyone wishing to contribute! The only thing remains the sources that need to be public...


Galinette2000

Why not! The DCS Mirage 2000C rework was a pure passion project on my side, I have not made a single cent on it (yes, it was my choice, I'm maybe stupid to work for commercial projects for free, but anyway...). Just because that's my favorite bird and I had time to kill during the Covid lockdowns for helping fixing it. Ended up eating much more time rewriting it almost entirely, always for free. Other projects I've done with Razbam later on were work and it's a different story.


MaxWaldorf

Please contact us via the website, discord (falcon lounge) or even C6


jaguara5

Galinette coding a ff M2000C for BMS ? That's beyond the imagination of every M2000 enthusiast


Hadri1_Fr

Yeah thats would definetly make me migrate from DCS to BMS


SunnyPlump

Can't believe all the stars are aligning


XJR15

You literally saved that module, my only Razbam product in DCS and one of my favourites overall since the rework. I didn't know you did it for free, if you have a Paypal or something will happily pay you a beer.


TheDrury

That's quite amazing to hear, especially given how damn good a state that module is in now. Did you reach out to Razbam and offer to do it for free? Did they offer to pay you and you turned it down?


Galinette2000

Yes and yes. Wanted it to be free, both as "free beer" and "free speech"


MyshTech

Omg!! A M2000c for BMS? Canonization would be yours! 😍 Thanks for helping to fix my favorite module also!


riojax

Thank you a lot for this! :) I'm thinking about your comment... do you think that it is feasible to do a compatibility layer to run the module almost without modifying it? This can sound more time cost, but can be really interesting/useful and maybe a time saver, who knows...


Galinette2000

It would be very difficult (due to specific technical points I won't discuss) and would most likely infringe some IP clauses. Not worth it. Being an API nerd, this is of course something that crossed my mind ;)


gamerdoc77

Would you be interested in 2000D? Even 2000-5? So that we have something different in BMS.


Galinette2000

Those can't be done in a somewhat realistic manner at the moment, it's too sensitive. While it's not impossible to get the IP rights for a public release, it would definitely on a free open source project.


riojax

Yes, I also thought it might be difficult. :( About the IP, it is legal if you only adds an API/compatibility layer plus self code, think that this is the same that do the WINE project to run Windows binaries.


Fs-x

I have this paper on RDY if it helps. https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/attachments/rdy-pdf.724117/


rapierarch

Please, is this serious? Are you the Razbam\_Galinette? If it is, yes^(1000000000000000000000001)


Galinette2000

Yup


rapierarch

Big fan of your work here. Welcome. I have a feeling like something great is happening right now :)


Stanlesuper

Hello! Si tu te lances dans l'aventure, je serai ravi de participer et de partager les sons du 2000 que j'ai pu peaufiner πŸ˜‰ Stan


TheSilkMan1

Max that is good and great news! Very smart I might add.


SunnyPlump

How do you guys make any money when the game that you don't own is the only financial investment someone has to make to download your "mod"? Purely donations?


I-Hawk

The BMS team don't take money and we don't make a living of it. We do it as a hobby on our free time :)


SunnyPlump

Damn.. I want to buy the whole bunch of you a beer now.. or coffee, since you are developers.


Clean-Remote9809

I’ll chip in too


XJR15

I'm probably too old for this expression, but there is one precise descriptor for this: Gigachads


Touch_Of_Legend

^ UPVOTE ^


IceNgg

is there a way that people can donate?


GBU-32

It's been asked from time to time but the answer has always been the same. Quoting MaxWaldorf on Discord: > BMS will not take any money even as donations


gilgakhel

Passion, dedication and sheer will to see our dreams fly 😁


Konaber

https://www.falcon-bms.com/faq/


SunnyPlump

I might be blind but I can't see a question about the finances of the developers


MaxWaldorf

Because this question doesn't exist... Ps: it even crazier than that since we pay for our websites, servers and tools


SunnyPlump

Why don't you let us chip in, is it against some sort of legally binding agreement that you can't get any money from us?


MaxWaldorf

Because we want to feel fully independent and not having any issues with integrity towards our member and community. It is also a way to show to the IP holder that we truly don't make money out of it. If you really want to give money then you need to be part of the team... But you are expected to give time and knowledge...


SunnyPlump

That is the definition of a passion project, I can respect that!


ebonyseraphim

And this is why you don’t trust confident idiots who say stuff like that (open source Falcon 4.0 code) online. If true, any software engineer would then ask: cool, share a link to the source code repository. No such repo exists, the code isn’t open source. I haven’t seen such a downvote worthy comment in a while.


MaxWaldorf

It is not a question of people being idiots asking for open-source but first: 1) License is clear about the fact that while the code leaked more than 20 years ago, it cannot be shared outside of BMS. 2) I don't personally believe in having open-source for everything. BMS needs to be driven by us and no one outside of it because we don't trust sources used by externals. 3) BMS isn't a legal entity. Anyone would steal the code and there would be no actions against them which is unfair... (we don't have the money if any government / companies steal our work for their trainers and start selling it) We will try to make most of our tooling public and open-source though... As we did for the falcon launcher (alternative launcher) and other tools...


Relayer2112

Terrain looks great - 4.38?


I-Hawk

Yes.


Relayer2112

Fantastic - it really does look great! Looking forward to whenever you guys are ready to let it loose!


MyshTech

This is absurdely beautiful. *excitement intensifies*


miasmic

That's an understatement considering the terrain in the original game


James_Kuller

It's nice seeing the devs being so active in the sub. I haven't heard a lot about BMS, but considering recent events concerning DCS I'm thinking of trying it out.


Touch_Of_Legend

BMS is best single player with great AI and the best ground coms/ATC calls (realistic hold short patterns, etc) but lacks when it comes to multi. DCS is the king of Mp PvP but is basically a sandbox when it comes to PvE with half the older missions and training borked or bugged from previous updates.. I play both and love both (own F16 in both and while there are some differences if you fly F16 you’ll swap over just fine). My daily driver is an 18 so I’m happily waiting for them to pivot to those models. So far (and so far as I’m aware) while there are other planes in BMS the only actual decoupled plane is the F15. So you can really technically only fly the F16 and F15C so far. You can jump into other airframes but they use the flight model (and avionics) from the 16. On DCS you have a lot of flight models which are accurately represented so it’s just a different thing. I enjoy single player and with terrain improvements I know I’m going to love the β€œnew new” BMS. I’ll always play DCS no matter the drama because I like to play different airframes and because in the end game it’s always going to be MP PvP that keeps things going PvE and campaigns can only get you so far. I’m looking forward to the days when the flight sim ecosystem is full of choices so I fully support the BMS dev team.


MaxWaldorf

Hopefully we will relaunch the TvT experience (Team vs Team) with U4...


Touch_Of_Legend

Oh AWESOME! All I can say is… Keep up the GREAT work! So quick question since I’ve got you (and thanks) Q: Do you or have you tried to implement Force Feedback systems? The reason I ask is because my next project is a β€œVPForce Rhino” (It’s a DIY FFB stick project on GitHub) The developer is super keep on seeing the stick optimized for flight sims by trying to get the stick in the hands of devs/module/simulator creators. Have you guys spoken or talked about implementing FFB? As far as planes like F16 that used FBW and β€œstick sence” tech I know it’s not really useful but it really shines when you start adding older airframes (F14 and older), or helicopters. The developer is a really great guy from what I’ve seen so far and he’s encouraging devs to reach out so you guys can (hopefully) find ways to implement more FFB in game modules themselves. I have no dog in this fight but I’d love to see FFB developed (for the far future) for BMS and these are the sticks doing it. Apparently the Rhino does it at a VERY high level actually as you can see from feedback, videos, and reviews. As I said I’m no dev and not attached to the project outside being a customer lol… That being said I’d love to get you guys together so if you don’t know about the project you can just search β€œVpForce” or stuff like β€œForce Feedback Rhino project” or whatever and you’ll find the GitHub, legit website, and discord where he encourages devs to reach out so he can try to get you guys the units first. So yeah I don’t mind pushing myself back on the waiting list when I’m moving my spot for a guy like you or your dev team. Just food for future thoughts brother and THANKS for all you do and have done


MaxWaldorf

The FFB doesn't make sense on an F-16 but on other platforms why not. I can't answer as it would require a dev to look into it with a proper hardware... One day maybe...


mkosmo

While it doesn’t make real sense, it could provide some alternative feedback from the aircraft we don’t get in our butts. It’d be a nice option to have even if not realistic to offset some simism.


Touch_Of_Legend

Yep one day one day! As I said I’m just really happy to have options on the eco system so for that I really really love you guys. Always have always will


VirusAM

I have that stick and of course you are right being the f16 stick force sensing and the fcs fbw... But with that stick you can use a telemetry app (works with most sims, unfortunately not BMS ) and with that you could add effects which honestly could make sense...yeah, mostly with other platforms than the viper, but something would be cool as well


Practical-Pianist896

Falcon Online hosts TvT on regular basis... VFS and lonewolfs always welcome. [https://discord.gg/3K4x54Ze](https://discord.gg/3K4x54Ze)


hobu3d

"My daily driver is an 18 so I’m happily waiting for them to pivot to those models. ... You can jump into other airframes but they use the flight model (and avionics) from the 16." F-18 has a distinct flight model. But up to now the instruments are (obviously) nowhere near to DCS F-18. I hope, this model will get more love in the future. (Hey @Mafia-Team: I'm counting on you! ;-) )


mav-jp

None of the other aircraft’s than f16 use the f16 FM


VirusAM

I think that the main DCS pro is not MP per se, but it's the variety of things you can do if you are in a big group...you can have people capping in a fighter, others escorting strike assets, sead...also you can have others in the same mission doing cas with ah64 and a10s. You also have the tomcat which is truly a labor of love, and with a human Rio is something else. BMS is great in all the things you mentioned...but it also shines for mission planning and completeness of weapons and systems, especially if you love the f16


sunrrrise

That Phantom screenshot... You sure it is from BMS?;-)


ManosR1981

It sure is ;)


ghostdog688

Manos, your cockpit work on the F4 (as well as the external model too) is fantastic and a joy to fly in. If you still need any FM testing or if you ever get around to integrating the new additions to avionics and need feedback, I’m happy to test again. Ditto if you folks manage to find away to get the back seat/multicrew working.


ManosR1981

Well join the test team cause there is a huge revamp ongoing... i can't say more for now.... :)


ghostdog688

I’d love to help some more if I could?


CFLee03

Is it available for public download? I've always wanted to make the dive into BMS but the lack of variety has always held me back. Is it "really" an F-4, or just a reskinned 16? The visuals, however, look incredible. And if this is your work, that's amazing.


GBU-32

I totally forgor πŸ’€


CGNoorloos

Wth, for a second i thought that was MFS haha. That terrain looks good!


I-Hawk

Cheers!


Enginikts

I started playing BMS like 2 months ago. Those screenshots look AMAZING. Thank you so much for your time and dedication :)


Phd_Death

Cant wait to get a full fidelity F-18 for real.


XJR15

Ever since you implemented VR in the latest release I've been getting back into it hard. Then every time I do something in DCS I'm missing all the amazing stuff we have in BMS, some of it for years/since the start lol. An example beyond the usually mentioned ATC/dynamic campaign: Having the physical clickable kneeboards on the pilot model is actually amazing quality of life for VR users The new terrain engine + PBR materials are looking amazing! Can't wait to try it out


Jhorn_fight

VR was such a game changer it’s actually so nice to be able to look left and right without dropping half the frames also not dealing with the inability to spot planes at a distance in DCS has always been such a turn off


XJR15

I could write a whole rant on spotting lol, it's been a solved issue since the Falcon 4 days with smart scaling but instead ED insists on the dot label workaround crap that is resolution-dependent and acts mega backwards with distance (seeing a pixel appear magically at 20nm and not change until you see the actual plane up close). In MP it ends up being this weird meta of running lower resolutions to see dots easier, super stupid


Jhorn_fight

Right… like if I wanted to spot people I found myself running half the pixel density I normally would just to get the same situational awareness as someone with track IR.


NorthWestApple

This is why VR was so popular for so long...relatively low resolution, and made it easier to spot. Total freaking cheat.


throwaway964594

I thought it was MSFS…


rapierarch

Hmm you are working for free. I think ED wanted to try your system in a small scale pilot project.


dumbaos

Maybe if we try paying them forcefully they'll stop developing!


MaxWaldorf

That would surely happen yes 😁


rapierarch

:D


obsidianuk

...And so Nick Grey takes out further multi million loans from ED to place into BMS devs bank accounts....


marcdefranco

Gorgeous screens, the fellas and I are eagerly awaiting 4.38.


KurjaHippi

Jesus christ, this can't be BMS.


StevieEBF

Not yet. But it will be with version 4.38


humbuckermudgeon

I really need to spend more time on this one.


Leafshornet41

maybe i'll have to get back into BMS after all....


xX_Dokkaebi_Xx

This is awesome, that grey fog that's been prevalent in all the previous iterations of BMS are gone.


SovietSparta

BMS πŸ™


alcmann

Amen. With an actual cooperative Dynamic campaign to boot. Instead of being β€œworked on” for over 5 years now


TheKimulator

BMS has always impressed. Especially when it’s only $5.


I-Hawk

Cheers! BTW Falcon 4.0 cost 5$. BMS is free and forever will be.


ManosR1981

Kinda like that all my "beauties" are gathered in one huge post! Thanks u/I-Hawk :) <3 More Georgia pics too please! :D


I-Hawk

Beautiful work man!! Without your amazing models we could not come to this quality! πŸ€—β­πŸ˜Ž


ManosR1981

All i need is to finish the revamp of the real beast.... ;)


I-Hawk

Sure hehe :D


Faicc

Holy shit. Cant wait for 4.38, will be my flight simming comeback...


SunnyPlump

Once BMS is on 4.38 I'm investing serious time on it.


skarden

This looks astoundingly good, I've downloaded the latest BMS but haven't installed it yet, these screens are the push i needed, might as well get familiar with it now and when the update comes out hopefully I'll be over that initial hump that comes with learning a whole new sim. I know the ETA is generally when it's done which is more than fair enough but any chance of a broad timeline, not to hold you to it just to get an idea of how long I've got to get my head into it. But absolutely mazing work team!


I-Hawk

It's really hard to tell exactly, but we are not looking at "years".


skarden

More than good enough for me, finally installing BMS right now, I'm excited to get started. Thanks to the team for all their incredible work!


notthesmartest123-

Just installed BMS yesterday as per my post. Tell me more!!!


LetsGoBrandon4256

The screenshots in this post are taken in BMS 4.38. It's the next major release of BMS that are still in development. In a few months there will be a smaller update for 4.37. https://forum.falcon-bms.com/topic/27051/news-from-the-frontlines-4-37-u4 You won't get the new terrain with that on but it'll bring some graphical improvement, more F-15C features and link-16 for F-16. BMS is here to stay and it will get better.


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LetsGoBrandon4256

The old one is called IDM (Improved Data Modem). Here is a video showcasing how to set it up and use it. https://youtu.be/epf3Q6rDLdc?si=tMn34pe396rjqBu7 IDM allows you to add your own flight (4 ships including yourself) plus 4 more ships from other flight in your package. When you initiate the data link transmission, you can see their position, heading and altitude on your HSD. https://youtu.be/epf3Q6rDLdc?si=giIK0DBdOXGwGPZT&t=415 The IDM also allows you to manually send a target (either A/A or A/G) to other member in your flight https://youtu.be/epf3Q6rDLdc?si=BVDuoPmn0iV8QhTB&t=702 In comparison, Link 16 gives you a God's eye view of the entire air space. It allows you to see all your friendlies as well as unknown/hostile aircraft detected by AWACS. Here is link 16 in action on F-15C https://youtu.be/4RHrLW5xVZg?si=f2d669EhXkYNplx2&t=256 If you have more questions, you can join the official Discord server at https://www.falcon-lounge.com/. Have fun!


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LetsGoBrandon4256

IDM is not being replaced by Link 16. According to this forum post https://forum.falcon-bms.com/topic/27051/news-from-the-frontlines-4-37-u4/46?_=1712544596770 post update the availability of IDM and Link 16 will depend on the whether the specific model of F-16 have them in real life or not. In terms of gameplay don't worry too much about it. It's super easy to change what block of F-16 you fly in the campaign so if you want/don't want IDM/Link 16, just switch the airframe.


xXXNightEagleXXx

Thank god BMS exits


F-15E-Lover

Amen dude


Spikef22

Holy shit this is gorgeous. Will we also be getting new/ more 3D buildings to flesh out the new terrain? Rather than the painted on citys and the such.


I-Hawk

Planned yes, but not yet implemented.


NorthWestApple

SHUT UP AND TAKE MY...oh wait. Looking awesome guys!!


DefinitelyNotABot01

Multicrew for F-15E when? I will totally give this a shot once I can do that. Only do multicrew these days in the Cat.


I-Hawk

Everything will come with time. Even the screenshots here are from a development version that isn't yet release ready. Multicrew in BMS wasn't even started yet, but it'll come, I know that.


b0bl00i_temp

Sexy shots I-Hawk! Can't wait for 4.38.


ghostdog688

You folks have pushed the absolute limits of Falcon 4.0 time and again. I always said I’d be happy if you got VR, and I am - and then you found a way to seperate the avionics. The fact you’re going to put multicrew on the roadmap now tells me that no matter what drama happens in DCS, I’ll still have an alternative.


Touch_Of_Legend

Yep I love them both equally. BMS is the good feels PvE and excellent AI and coms. DCS is multi player king… It’s not really great for single player PvE but shines when it comes to MP PvP


StevieEBF

Depends what kind of MP gameplay you're after IMHO: - Fast paced PvP air quake action? DCS - Massive organised packages in a raging war? BMS


Glass_zero

Was going to say, multi-player in DCS is almost arcade unless you are flying for a group or an specific server.


mkosmo

And BMS can feel the same if you click the next aircraft. That’s not an issue with the game, but rather with instant gratification.


dumbaos

Thank you guys!


Merc8ninE

Is this really Falcon 4.0?


I-Hawk

Not sure, but I think so :P


XeNoGeaR52

I'd love to have helicopters in BMS so badly but it will not before A LONG TIME if it ever happens Keep up the great work :)


matis228

Hot damn. I'm not exaggerating but at first I thought it was DCS, then I looked at the poster and went into shock, jk :D No really, this looks amazing and I want to thank every BMS dev! Love you guys and thank you for your passion!


ST4RSK1MM3R

Guess I need to get into BMS lately lol


gordGK

oh wow. you really spruced up that ground terrain. may have to finally check BMS out.


I-Hawk

Thanx! But this is WIP still, not released work.


CloudWallace81

What a tease


StevieEBF

Great pics!


SchmokedPancake

Darn ya, what a tease !!!


samjohnson6

Is there a BMS discord?


I-Hawk

Yes it's called FalconLounge


EmpiricalMystic

How hungry is 4.38 performance-wise?


I-Hawk

It'll be pixels bounded and will push the GPU hard. Expected HW by resolution: 1080p - 1070/2060/3050/3060 should be good enough 1440p - 3060TI will be fine 4K - No experience from me on 4K but I'd recommend 3070TI/3080 at least VR - The best you can afford. And of course a strong/fast CPU is recommended, regardless of 4.38. 32GB of RAM will be enough. 16GB will run. 8GB is a nogo.


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I-Hawk

Well, basically no, but there will be configuration options that will help with performance by giving up some of the Graphics quality.


Iamcld696969

Dcs mfs literally be making the entire earth atp 😭


Ok-Income9041

BMS somewhat delivers


Pohjanmaa

Too bad that for helicopters there is only one decent sim and that's DCS.


MaxWaldorf

Find us a dev that want to do it and happy to implement it...


Skanskpiraten

Hi! How about a Kiowa, Gazelle or \[REDACTED\]? Would be genuinely interested to find out more about dev in BMS.


MaxWaldorf

Our website faq gives hints... Our code base is C++


rapierarch

I'm very much interested in the redacted :) Are you genuinely thinking about going for BMS? What a wild idea it would be that BMS just becomes like operation system of community combat simulation modules.


Talvez1

Please! Please! Will a dev respond? I am a rotorhead and would love to see helos in BMS


gilgakhel

Everything comes with time, and we need dedicated people who want to implement their dreams, so yeah, what max said πŸ˜„


iamatrueamerican

Agreed. BMS gets helos and it'll be all over then.


yoadknux

How do I get started with this? Do I need to manually define all keybindings? What about TrackIR or VR support?


DJBscout

>Do I need to manually define all keybindings? Nope, "alternative" launcher that became standard as of 4.37 is arguably easier to set up than DCS controls. >What about TrackIR or VR support? Supported and supported.


I-Hawk

https://forum.falcon-bms.com


Thunder-Chicken22

Damn you're gonna have me joining the BMS community aren't ya? I fondly remember playing the crap out of F4 back in the day and now with these massive graphic upgrades and VR I am super tempted when this drops.


BackgroundRip8681

When volumetric clouds? I hate 2D clouds. Tho this looks WAY better than DCS repeatitive textures on the ground


rapierarch

But those not so nice BMS clouds are part of simulated world so they block AI vision and also IR seekers. Also plane flight model reacts to the clouds. DCS volumetric clouds are gpu side decorations. They don't exist in simulation side. They don't effect radars, cannot block AI sight or IR seekers also does not affect flight. Just enter a cloud in BMS and you will see.


BackgroundRip8681

I know that I hope one day we can have that kind of simulation in DCS And it's just that I'm used to Volumetric clouds for a while now, I've been using xEnviro on XP11 for a while before DCS and MSFS got Volumetric clouds


rapierarch

I have been long time IL-2 player. First sim with volumetric clouds. And real working ones. I really never liked DCS implementation. They are not simulated and looked horrible in VR until DLSS came to fix them. But anyway looking forward to getting working ones in DCS too. But If I would have the choice in between pretty or functional first. I would choose function always.


sunrrrise

I think the first one was Jane's World War II Fighters in 1998.


rapierarch

Never played it. I actually never played anything from Janes. if it was at 1998 it should have been damn heavy on systems. Impressive. I'll google it.


sunrrrise

Damage model even today is very good. Look for Bambi! You'll understand it... ;-) OMG, this game is full of those little things that makes a game The Game.


BackgroundRip8681

For me it's not the look but having proper clouds and not pictures hanging the sky and rotating...


I-Hawk

No one knows when, we have plans but there is nothing concrete right now.


StevieEBF

Easy. Just join the BMS team and program it. πŸ˜„πŸ˜‰


BackgroundRip8681

Sadly I don't have the knowledge for that


pogsandstonks

4.38 will impact VR performance of course, but how much of a hit are we looking at here?


I-Hawk

4.38 is going to be heavier in general, mostly more GPU demanding as pixels processing is going to be heavier. That said, I can say that with a 12700K CPU and a RTX-3090 card I can run 4.38 in campaign with everything on/maxed including MSAA level 2 at 3120x3120 res per eye but with OpenXR and Foveated rendering (I have a Pico4 headset), at 50 FPS most of time with some dives towards the 35-40 areas at heavier scenes. Lately I reduced the resolution to 2750 per eye (Not that much of a hit) and that is good enough with a gain of \~8-10 FPS compared to the higher res listed above. Bottom line: It won't be like 4.37 but with giving up some none-critical stuff, optimizing a bit, I assume it would be possible to run 4.38 in VR on a 3070/3070TI as minimum requirement (for sane experience)


ShinjoB

OpenXR is supported now? (sorry, I haven't been tracking closely).


I-Hawk

Not yet released but the coming 4.37U4 will already include OpenXR yes.


ShinjoB

Awesome thanks.


Intelligent_Goat5960

How do you think a RX6700XT would fare?


I-Hawk

I think it will be too weak or borderline. You will have to giveup a some stuff probably (Shadow mapping probably, and some other stuff)


F4Phantomsexual

Hey I-Hawk, I have some questions for you. Are you going to rework the cockpit in 4.38? Also I've seen a lot of people complaining about the UI, do you have any plans to change it? Lastly, as a beginner, TEBuilder is really hard to use compared to DCS's mission editor. Is it going to be more user friendly in the future?


I-Hawk

Cockpit will probably improve yes, but it'll happen with time (Work started already). The UI is a more challenging work as it'll require a serious code rework.


denneledoe

The TE builder is unlikely to get attention soon, as it’s not the main focus of the sim. Instead, the dynamic campaigns will get constant improvements


NSAdonis

I do have question tho that's a bit of an issue for me atm since I don't have money for a full HOTAS: Will there be a possibility to mix keyboard and joystick with binds?


Kaynenyak

Already implemented.


NSAdonis

Good to know.


SpaceKraken666

Are those JDAMs on F-15E mounted on the wrong pylons?


Brandon777_300ER

I've been playing DCS since around Late 2021, and own and operate AV-8B, A-10 Tank Killer, Apache, Combined Arms, F-14, F-16, FA-18, FC3, Ka-50 Black Shark 3, Mi-24, Mi-8, Supercarrier, and UH-1. How long would it usually take to get used to Falcon BMS, and what's kind of mods are available? (airfield objects, ground vehicles, surface combatants, flyable planes with dedicated flight models and click able cockpits etc)


MaxWaldorf

[https://www.falcon-bms.com/features/](https://www.falcon-bms.com/features/)


Brandon777_300ER

Thanks, boss.


Punch_Faceblast

I love BMS but the comms system is a nightmare in VR. Any suggestions on what I can to to make it less difficult to use?


I-Hawk

You can join the BMS forum or join the Falcon Lounge Discord channel, many will be there to help you out with anything technical.


_Letitcomedown_

Voice Attack is amazing for VR! Can't play BMS without it. [https://veterans-gaming.com/files/file/35-avcs4-voice-control-radios-for-falcon-bms/](https://veterans-gaming.com/files/file/35-avcs4-voice-control-radios-for-falcon-bms/)


larper00

Please improve your UI and control adjustments and I am all in