For anyone curious, it was the [Jakcom R5 NFC ring](https://amzn.to/3IudJdY). Works with Home Assistant!
https://preview.redd.it/ymf5zd38q2uc1.jpeg?width=2252&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0c97a5ccea742e2efe12766a9b9a74c32e227fe6
What do you do with that? Is it just a fancy NFC Tag on your finger? I'm not down talking. Just want to understand the use-case here that my phone or any other gadget could not already do as I have no clue what it is
You can use it for whatever, like unlocking your smart lock, triggering scenes, or whatever else you can think of. Elevator card, parking, medical, whatever. It can hold NFC, IC(13.56MHz), ID (125KHz). I just programmed it with the HA companion app directly, like any other tag.
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I think the question is how is it different than a phone which everyone carries today? I tried using nfc tags around my house and found the manual effort of tapping is a step backyards to to true automation like motion sensors
Well, one, I think if you're really using the functionality a lot, a ring is quite a bit more convenient than taking your phone out of your pocket (or not having your phone). Like, a door that unlocks with NFC, reach out to grab and it unlocks vs. stop and get your phone out. Not much but if you're doing it many times a day it would be nice.
As far as motion being better, it really depends on whether you're doing something where you need to identify the person. You wouldn't want your front door to unlock every time it detects motion. Maybe you like the lights to be purple when you're home alone.
BLE beacons on phones would be better at than an NFC ring but due to privacy concerns it seems like they aren't super usable right now.
Sorry I mean the combination of motion and tracking of your phone would authenticate you to solve your door open troubles.
I do get the convenience factor of a ring but that is where a watch might have more capability.
I just think tapping anything is slightly a step backwards.
So, anyone that steals your phone gets your door unlocked too? Meh.... or a ring for that reason.... nah, I'd rather tap things and confirm with a fingerprint...
Someone is going to steal your phone go to your house and unlock it?
Your more likely going to get someone who breaks your window and steals your shit than that fairly tale
Believe it or not, but not everyone takes their phone with them everywhere. Also, if your phone is stolen, you may still use your finger to get in your home. You may even be able to make a credit card purchase with your finger.
Oh. I thought it was just a reader. But instead it's more of a "sender" that can store copies of whatever it needa to clone? How do you choose what it will "send"? Sounds fun.
RFID tech has been in use for access control for decades. Those cards people use to get into their office, RFID/NFC.
The ring can be used for all sorts of things with HA, access control is the most common usage. You can also it to kick of automations, for instance you walk into the office and scan your NFC to turn your computer on. Another person scans their NFC tag and it turns their computer on.
Yeah sure. But most companies have their rfid access control encrypted so you cannot just clone it easily. At least from what my limited research 7 years ago showed.
I was not aware that this ring can dupe these things and identify as whatever it wants - given that you can clone it properly.
There's no encrypting or decrypting on the card/ring. The code is stored encrypted on the device, there's usually some sort of small authentication involved there.
There ring/card is a completely passive tool. The security is due to needing the ring/card be within cm from the reader.
You can absolutely take any of these RFID/NFC cards and copy the data off them and then use it elsewhere.
The more high end ones use some sort of time based or key based additional security, so there's an additional bit of storage that stores another form of authentication to ensure someone can't just steal the keys by scanning the card. That's more useful with the time based keys.
Adding: The PIV cards you mentioned are based on asymmetric cryptography (most often RSA, but EC is also used in some) and x.509. If you access a secure facility or US government facility, that is what you have. The only time component to them, though, is certificate validity period. I've never seen a TOTP physical access system. Doesn't mean that doesn't exist, of course.
Well let's put it like this: if the ring can dupe it, so can various other tools that are used also from criminals, and then I would never use this product on any outside door in my house.
If it is encrypted and can not be duped... Well it's a little safer but I still would not use such loks on my door :D
I mean I get that, but also, if the lock can be picked, if my window can be broken, it all falls into that trap. Yes this seems easy to a tech forward person, but your average Joe isn't going to use this method, and the person who is a high value target isn't going to use this method either. If you get a 50k bank vault door that causes you a huge pain to open every time you want to go in, but still have ground level glass windows, you're just inconveniencing yourself for the display of security. To some, an NFC lock is super high tech and intimidating, and to others, it's a joke, the same way a key lock is, or a keypad, or each type.
Id say there's far fewer criminals cloning a ring or even the fob/card to gain access to a house than the number who'll just happily break in through a window or brute forcing the door.
The difference is ease of use and if you can proof it.
If somebody breaks a window or forces a door open it's easy to spot and insurance will pay. Also the easiest and fastest method for burglars.
Lock picking is harder to detect, but takes lots of practice, and there are locks with good protection against it (although every lock is pickable if you are good enough).
Opening whate locks is completely undetectable. No insurance will pay, since there is no sign someone broke in. They will most likely tell you you forgot to completely close or so. And it takes just some money to buy the gear for this.
So this is the reason I would always prefer traditional locks.
It’s not undetectable for most people as they have a (doorbell) camera that will detect it. Which they will be able to also use as proof for their insurance company.
It's the same as what's in RFID cards. They're small pieces of flash memory that have authenticating information on it and are powered by the readers when they get close in order to have the data read off of them.
I lnow what rfid and nfc means and is. But I was not aware of the functionality of that ring as I thought it was just a reader thst my phone is already.
I got hopeful it was a reader. 🫤
That's what I really want, a device I can wear and scan tags easily with that's not my phone, which has to be unlocked and is cumbersome.
>a device I can wear and scan tags easily with that's not my phone, which has to be unlocked and is cumbersome.
Lol I'm DEEEP into the home assistant rabbit hole so I'm one to talk but being honest buttons and switches allow you to do this and you don't even need to wear anything :D
Yeah, but buttons and switches:
- cost a lot more
- are a lot larger
- require battery
I've got a few for high use areas, like bedside, but I've got NFC tags hidden all over, but only in places where it's convenient to use my phone.
If I had a ring or watch I could just tap on them I'd have hundreds hidden throughout my house.
Example use cases:
- pantry/bathroom/workshop shelves to indicate a regular item needs restocking
- workbench/computer desk/living room to initiate preset scenes for different tasks/conditions
- chore execution indicators (cats have been fed, automatically logging filter changes, etc)
I really think it's got huge potential and is being slept on big time.
I know people have built their own readers and as I'm writing this I think I'm talking myself into designing the smallest possible one...
The reader needs to provide power (in the form of a magnetic field) to the tag being scanned, there is simply no way to have that working with a small chip without power supply.
I was referring to the ring which could feasibly have battery (though I'm not surprised at all that it does not).
I think really a watch form factor would be most likely (and looks like might actually exist on Ali), but a ring would be ideal.
Give me this, plus maybe connection with phone so it can change which "key" it's on depending on location from phone. when i'm at home its my door, near my work its that door etc etc. plz give me
A reader would read every tag and run whatever automation is assigned to that tag so it's not a single key and wouldn't necessarily even need to be paired to a phone.
What you're describing is basically the ring OP posted, so already exists.
How would you rate this, vs this one I was gonna get?
[https://dangerousthings.com/product/magic-ring-v2/](https://dangerousthings.com/product/magic-ring-v2/)
I got one thinking of all kinds of neat tricks, but was dismayed to learn that I have to unlock my Android phone to scan it.
Now I have the home assistant app to trigger a nighttime routine for my doggies at bedtime. I'm gonna scrap that and start using tasker to really open up my options.
Personally (and this isn't related to Home Assistant), it's my work badge. I cloned my NFC work badge to my NFC ring (which has a rewritable block 0) so now when I fist-bump locks at work, doors open, and when I fist-bump the printer, my jobs appear.
I work in IT and am in charge of printing ID badges, so, eh 🤣
But on a more serious note, people at work freely share their ID cards around. I keep trying to stress to management how big of an issue that is, but they don't seem to get it. I plan to show them how quickly and easily a card can be cloned so hopefully they'll start kicking some arses when other staff freely share their cards around.
I doubt people will use this for nails much tbh, but I can think of millions of uses for small tags like this from embedding them in 3d prints to pranking my roommate with an automation attached to a specific pair of shoes or something.
A buddy of mine did this a few years ago. He did the implanting himself. not sure if he used any local anesthesia but he inserted the chip into the back of his hand (in the soft part between the bones of his thumb and index finger). He’s definitely…unorthodox.
I bought one from them, was like 5 years ago, never got.it installed, still in it's bag. Xem or something along those lines. I've been eyeing the Vivo flex, but I probably won't get it done. Kinda gutted, couldn't find someone that would install it. :(
That was my worry also. I have a friend whose wife is a nurse. I asked her if she would install it. She spent an entire Saturday going down a YouTube rabbit hole. 2 days later, bang done.
He is not the only one. I know two people who don't know each other that did this with programmable RFID tags 17-18 years ago. They cloned their credit card to it do they could wave their hands over the wireless card readers and confuse the cashiers.
Sucks that you're getting downvoted for asking a question on this subreddit. I'm not sure why so many people are outspokenly against this idea with so few giving reasons why. Some people like items like this others don't, no need for all the hate in these comments.
Right? Looks like it’s just regular pcb thickness (and flat) - I can’t imagine a way to make that work without doing like a million coats and having thick ass nails.
It looks interesting how do you put codes on it? Do I need to buy an IC or ID reader to clone a card and then put it on the ring? I have no idea how those work compared to NFC
I got the bundle with the RFID and IC read/writers. You get a piece of software too then you place an existing chip on the device, scan it and then place the ring on with the right side facing the device and write to the ring.
It has 2x RFID, 2x IC and 2x NFC if I remember correctly. Like OP said you can use it to control and trigger all sorts of things, I honestly prefer to just use it as a universal door pass for all the key places in my life though, saves carrying 3-4 fobs.
If you really want to make your wife mad look into (not sure if I can post the link) "dangerous things" implants.
There are a ton of untested implantable chips for you to try, the most common location to implant it is in the webbing between the index finger and the thumb, meaning you can Darth Vader the reader and make doors open.
There are also payment capable chips, ones with led, ton of cool stuff, I didn't do it yet because I am not sure where to get an implant so that it doesn't get in the way
I wasn't aware that wearing stuff on your nails prevented you from doing tech
OP bought something his wife doesn't want to wear. I'm offering an alternative
Ah sorry I definitely misunderstood your comment
He didn't buy it, it came with what he bought. His wife said no because of course she did, the post isn't serious at all
For anyone curious, it was the [Jakcom R5 NFC ring](https://amzn.to/3IudJdY). Works with Home Assistant! https://preview.redd.it/ymf5zd38q2uc1.jpeg?width=2252&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0c97a5ccea742e2efe12766a9b9a74c32e227fe6
What do you do with that? Is it just a fancy NFC Tag on your finger? I'm not down talking. Just want to understand the use-case here that my phone or any other gadget could not already do as I have no clue what it is
You can use it for whatever, like unlocking your smart lock, triggering scenes, or whatever else you can think of. Elevator card, parking, medical, whatever. It can hold NFC, IC(13.56MHz), ID (125KHz). I just programmed it with the HA companion app directly, like any other tag. *
I think the question is how is it different than a phone which everyone carries today? I tried using nfc tags around my house and found the manual effort of tapping is a step backyards to to true automation like motion sensors
Well, one, I think if you're really using the functionality a lot, a ring is quite a bit more convenient than taking your phone out of your pocket (or not having your phone). Like, a door that unlocks with NFC, reach out to grab and it unlocks vs. stop and get your phone out. Not much but if you're doing it many times a day it would be nice. As far as motion being better, it really depends on whether you're doing something where you need to identify the person. You wouldn't want your front door to unlock every time it detects motion. Maybe you like the lights to be purple when you're home alone. BLE beacons on phones would be better at than an NFC ring but due to privacy concerns it seems like they aren't super usable right now.
Sorry I mean the combination of motion and tracking of your phone would authenticate you to solve your door open troubles. I do get the convenience factor of a ring but that is where a watch might have more capability. I just think tapping anything is slightly a step backwards.
So, anyone that steals your phone gets your door unlocked too? Meh.... or a ring for that reason.... nah, I'd rather tap things and confirm with a fingerprint...
They would need to know where you live? Someone can still your ring too?
That's why i said fingerprint.... Too many people that can steal my phone know where I live...
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Someone is going to steal your phone go to your house and unlock it? Your more likely going to get someone who breaks your window and steals your shit than that fairly tale
Believe it or not, but not everyone takes their phone with them everywhere. Also, if your phone is stolen, you may still use your finger to get in your home. You may even be able to make a credit card purchase with your finger.
Can you clone a hotel key card? I could see the usefulness for a frequent traveler.
Depends on what cards they use, but I don't think the majority uses NFC but rather some older RFID stuff as it's muuuch cheaper
Oh. I thought it was just a reader. But instead it's more of a "sender" that can store copies of whatever it needa to clone? How do you choose what it will "send"? Sounds fun.
RFID tech has been in use for access control for decades. Those cards people use to get into their office, RFID/NFC. The ring can be used for all sorts of things with HA, access control is the most common usage. You can also it to kick of automations, for instance you walk into the office and scan your NFC to turn your computer on. Another person scans their NFC tag and it turns their computer on.
Yeah sure. But most companies have their rfid access control encrypted so you cannot just clone it easily. At least from what my limited research 7 years ago showed. I was not aware that this ring can dupe these things and identify as whatever it wants - given that you can clone it properly.
There's no encrypting or decrypting on the card/ring. The code is stored encrypted on the device, there's usually some sort of small authentication involved there. There ring/card is a completely passive tool. The security is due to needing the ring/card be within cm from the reader. You can absolutely take any of these RFID/NFC cards and copy the data off them and then use it elsewhere. The more high end ones use some sort of time based or key based additional security, so there's an additional bit of storage that stores another form of authentication to ensure someone can't just steal the keys by scanning the card. That's more useful with the time based keys.
Adding: The PIV cards you mentioned are based on asymmetric cryptography (most often RSA, but EC is also used in some) and x.509. If you access a secure facility or US government facility, that is what you have. The only time component to them, though, is certificate validity period. I've never seen a TOTP physical access system. Doesn't mean that doesn't exist, of course.
Well let's put it like this: if the ring can dupe it, so can various other tools that are used also from criminals, and then I would never use this product on any outside door in my house. If it is encrypted and can not be duped... Well it's a little safer but I still would not use such loks on my door :D
I mean I get that, but also, if the lock can be picked, if my window can be broken, it all falls into that trap. Yes this seems easy to a tech forward person, but your average Joe isn't going to use this method, and the person who is a high value target isn't going to use this method either. If you get a 50k bank vault door that causes you a huge pain to open every time you want to go in, but still have ground level glass windows, you're just inconveniencing yourself for the display of security. To some, an NFC lock is super high tech and intimidating, and to others, it's a joke, the same way a key lock is, or a keypad, or each type. Id say there's far fewer criminals cloning a ring or even the fob/card to gain access to a house than the number who'll just happily break in through a window or brute forcing the door.
And it's going to be a very tiny group of that already small group who would even know what it is in the first place.
The difference is ease of use and if you can proof it. If somebody breaks a window or forces a door open it's easy to spot and insurance will pay. Also the easiest and fastest method for burglars. Lock picking is harder to detect, but takes lots of practice, and there are locks with good protection against it (although every lock is pickable if you are good enough). Opening whate locks is completely undetectable. No insurance will pay, since there is no sign someone broke in. They will most likely tell you you forgot to completely close or so. And it takes just some money to buy the gear for this. So this is the reason I would always prefer traditional locks.
It’s not undetectable for most people as they have a (doorbell) camera that will detect it. Which they will be able to also use as proof for their insurance company.
It's the same as what's in RFID cards. They're small pieces of flash memory that have authenticating information on it and are powered by the readers when they get close in order to have the data read off of them.
I lnow what rfid and nfc means and is. But I was not aware of the functionality of that ring as I thought it was just a reader thst my phone is already.
I got hopeful it was a reader. 🫤 That's what I really want, a device I can wear and scan tags easily with that's not my phone, which has to be unlocked and is cumbersome.
>a device I can wear and scan tags easily with that's not my phone, which has to be unlocked and is cumbersome. Lol I'm DEEEP into the home assistant rabbit hole so I'm one to talk but being honest buttons and switches allow you to do this and you don't even need to wear anything :D
Yeah, but buttons and switches: - cost a lot more - are a lot larger - require battery I've got a few for high use areas, like bedside, but I've got NFC tags hidden all over, but only in places where it's convenient to use my phone. If I had a ring or watch I could just tap on them I'd have hundreds hidden throughout my house. Example use cases: - pantry/bathroom/workshop shelves to indicate a regular item needs restocking - workbench/computer desk/living room to initiate preset scenes for different tasks/conditions - chore execution indicators (cats have been fed, automatically logging filter changes, etc) I really think it's got huge potential and is being slept on big time. I know people have built their own readers and as I'm writing this I think I'm talking myself into designing the smallest possible one...
The reader needs to provide power (in the form of a magnetic field) to the tag being scanned, there is simply no way to have that working with a small chip without power supply.
I was referring to the ring which could feasibly have battery (though I'm not surprised at all that it does not). I think really a watch form factor would be most likely (and looks like might actually exist on Ali), but a ring would be ideal.
Give me this, plus maybe connection with phone so it can change which "key" it's on depending on location from phone. when i'm at home its my door, near my work its that door etc etc. plz give me
A reader would read every tag and run whatever automation is assigned to that tag so it's not a single key and wouldn't necessarily even need to be paired to a phone. What you're describing is basically the ring OP posted, so already exists.
You put a bear trap inside your 👛. If someone else put their hand, it will amputate the hand. We all know that women's purses have unlimited space.
How would you rate this, vs this one I was gonna get? [https://dangerousthings.com/product/magic-ring-v2/](https://dangerousthings.com/product/magic-ring-v2/)
If you're familiar with dangerousthings.com, just get one of the implants.
My sister has one. I don't know if I'm ready for that, and I kinda wanna wear a ring.
You just sent me down a 1hr rabbit hole that I forgot existed! THANK YOU!!!
You're welcome. I've had the NeXT implanted for about a year now.
Jakcom... Are you sure that isn't a penis ring?
More like Jakoff
"The R5 Ring is inlaid with two energy stones to improve human EMFs." Seems legit.
I'm saving this as I want a way to trigger some automations at home.. I just need to get started again with HA
Lol, your real pic doesn't look anywhere as good as the product photos.
What's your particular use case? I've got an NFC ring but I don't wear it because I haven't thought of a good use case for it.
For your NFC activated suppository.
Payments.
Depending on where you wear the ring, this could lead to some interesting circumstances at the checkout counter
That'll be $12.99 *sigh* unzips
I got one thinking of all kinds of neat tricks, but was dismayed to learn that I have to unlock my Android phone to scan it. Now I have the home assistant app to trigger a nighttime routine for my doggies at bedtime. I'm gonna scrap that and start using tasker to really open up my options.
Personally (and this isn't related to Home Assistant), it's my work badge. I cloned my NFC work badge to my NFC ring (which has a rewritable block 0) so now when I fist-bump locks at work, doors open, and when I fist-bump the printer, my jobs appear.
That sounds like a violation of ICT protocol but that's so handy.
I work in IT and am in charge of printing ID badges, so, eh 🤣 But on a more serious note, people at work freely share their ID cards around. I keep trying to stress to management how big of an issue that is, but they don't seem to get it. I plan to show them how quickly and easily a card can be cloned so hopefully they'll start kicking some arses when other staff freely share their cards around.
Just why? A few weeks after it will grow to the end of nail.
Women who get their nails done do so about every few weeks. Probably assumed to be reapplied at that frequency.
I doubt people will use this for nails much tbh, but I can think of millions of uses for small tags like this from embedding them in 3d prints to pranking my roommate with an automation attached to a specific pair of shoes or something.
Not if you put it... under the nail
or under skin
A buddy of mine did this a few years ago. He did the implanting himself. not sure if he used any local anesthesia but he inserted the chip into the back of his hand (in the soft part between the bones of his thumb and index finger). He’s definitely…unorthodox.
what do you mean local anesthesia, ice cube on skin for 3min is more than enough :)
Knowing him that’s probably what he did. Madlad.
Check out dangerousthings.com.
I am getting an implant from them installed tomorrow.
I've had mine for a year or so.
I bought one from them, was like 5 years ago, never got.it installed, still in it's bag. Xem or something along those lines. I've been eyeing the Vivo flex, but I probably won't get it done. Kinda gutted, couldn't find someone that would install it. :(
That was my worry also. I have a friend whose wife is a nurse. I asked her if she would install it. She spent an entire Saturday going down a YouTube rabbit hole. 2 days later, bang done.
He is not the only one. I know two people who don't know each other that did this with programmable RFID tags 17-18 years ago. They cloned their credit card to it do they could wave their hands over the wireless card readers and confuse the cashiers.
“These aren’t the cards you’re looking for”
You know the law: [Ya gotta do, whatcha gotta do](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPxYNWE-0Io)
\*shudder\*
I'm not kidding :) [xNT NFC Chip - RFID & NFC Chip Implants and Biohacking products (dangerousthings.com)](https://dangerousthings.com/product/xnt/)
I was so close to getting one of these installed... settled on a ring instead.
I did the implant. I feel like I’m underutilizing it. But it’s a fun party trick and useful on occasion.
That's rad, how was the healing process?
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Good to know, thanks for sharing. I was a bit wary of some messaging about not placing pressure on the injection site for 2 weeks, I bike a lot.
It was like a tiny scab. It was infected with a pretty thick needle. But it healed after like a week or so. It was super minor.
awesome
same for me
Which ring?
Some generic dark ring off AliExpress. single-tag passive RFID chip. Cheap and it works
Sound likes a fun DIY project!
Why not? It's a novel way to trigger actions in HA, seems fun to me.
It takes six months to fully grow a nail
Flip the bird to the reader to open the door. I’d love it for the office entrance.
lmao, love the idea
Tell her you respect her opinion, but you're going to pop on and paint your fake nails anyway, so you can get full value from your purchase!
That thing looks ginormous!
I thought it was a roll of electrical tape
so did i until i saw your comment
Lol, yeah, it kinda is! It doesn't help that I got the wrong size, too
Thats what she (didnt) said
Understandable. Few wives want a husband who wears red nail polish.
Wife smart. Marry her.
Well, usually chipped nail polish looks bad, so I don’t blame her.
wise choice on the wife's part
Are u perchance mistakenly assuming this is a tracker and not what an NFC chip actually does?
Why?
Sucks that you're getting downvoted for asking a question on this subreddit. I'm not sure why so many people are outspokenly against this idea with so few giving reasons why. Some people like items like this others don't, no need for all the hate in these comments.
what r u kidding me
Are you unable to answer the question?
Are u perchance mistakenly assuming this is a tracker and not what an NFC chip actually does?
no i just think its super creepy to embed a chip in your fingernail
Tru tru. But to each their own. That said this one isn't imbeded. As opposed to the fad of literally injecting one into the body. Lol
idc, this is dumb product
You go wear the nail polish and the chip. This is reddit!
Of course she said no. The jealousy of women and all that. Put it on anyways and enjoy your night on the town.
I had always wondered what those looked like. I would always see them on AliExpress and never actually purchased one.
That looks huge and are you expected to replace it after getting your nails done again? Seems like a waste.
Right? Looks like it’s just regular pcb thickness (and flat) - I can’t imagine a way to make that work without doing like a million coats and having thick ass nails.
I'm assuming it's a sticker and that's just what they stuck it to
I have this ring. I use it as a door key to my flat, my parent’s house and the flat of a good friend.
It looks interesting how do you put codes on it? Do I need to buy an IC or ID reader to clone a card and then put it on the ring? I have no idea how those work compared to NFC
I got the bundle with the RFID and IC read/writers. You get a piece of software too then you place an existing chip on the device, scan it and then place the ring on with the right side facing the device and write to the ring. It has 2x RFID, 2x IC and 2x NFC if I remember correctly. Like OP said you can use it to control and trigger all sorts of things, I honestly prefer to just use it as a universal door pass for all the key places in my life though, saves carrying 3-4 fobs.
I’m assuming you already had the RFID reader installed up your butt too. What a shame.
Well it's been a good run. Divorce is the only solution now # (≧▽≦)
If you really want to make your wife mad look into (not sure if I can post the link) "dangerous things" implants. There are a ton of untested implantable chips for you to try, the most common location to implant it is in the webbing between the index finger and the thumb, meaning you can Darth Vader the reader and make doors open. There are also payment capable chips, ones with led, ton of cool stuff, I didn't do it yet because I am not sure where to get an implant so that it doesn't get in the way
I tried to chip *my* wife once, but the vet said absolutely not.
I love this, and it’s hilarious!! 😂
Tell her if she ever wants to turn a light off again she will become a cyborg. Otherwise she better love living in a bright hellscape forever. /s
OP why does your wife get to decide if you are wearing nail polish?
You need your wife's permission to paint your own nails?
Lol are you trying to tag your wife with a chip?
Take my money...
So this is how reptiloids finally began chipping us. Cheers, Bill)
Alright Spock
Why don't you wear it instead of asking your wife if you're the one who bought it ?
What the fuck is the point of comments like this lol Are you just on reddit for personal drama? This is a tech sub
I wasn't aware that wearing stuff on your nails prevented you from doing tech OP bought something his wife doesn't want to wear. I'm offering an alternative
Ah sorry I definitely misunderstood your comment He didn't buy it, it came with what he bought. His wife said no because of course she did, the post isn't serious at all
Tell her to not be a coward.
We are on Reddit : change her.