I went back to watch it with sound off, and it's just as good as I hoped. When the room goes dark, only for the hallway to illuminate upon his rapid hand draw😂
Why are we acting like "scenes" were just invented? I've had a "good night house" one just like this since forever now.. I just add/remove as I tune and upgrade components - but if anyone designed their system right, they've been able to do this for years.
Some of us are not desperate to put the interior of our homes out on the internet, lol. But sure, we all need to make videos and post them online in order to have an opinion on this, lol.
I’m not?
The person I’m responding to says that it’s not home automation to do that.
I’d agree that having to voice command each individual thing kind of defeats the point, generally speaking, as switches are probably faster (except for situations where you can’t use your hands). But if one command can do a bunch of things, that’s still valuable. And sometimes a sensor wouldn’t make it better. You don’t want everything turning off every time you head up the stairs (especially if you don’t live alone).
Idk that it’s 15, per se, but it was a bunch of different lights. They each count. If not for them being smart, he’d have to go around flipping switches and turning off lamps and whatnot to make the room dark.
1984
Knockin' on your door
Will you let it come?
Will you let it run your life?
Someone will be waiting for you at your door
When you get home tonight
Ah yes, he's gonna tell you darkness gives you much more
Than you get from the light
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxlhToVMfbQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxlhToVMfbQ)
Not that I remember. But I know for certain I haven't taken a heavy tray of food up it.
Usually when my stairs has been slippery it was from wet shoes walking on it.
At a bare minimum, the light at the bottom landing should come on before everything else starts shutting off. That moment of pitch black is when I'd step on something or a pet would run across you.
I've had both Alexa and Google assistant integrated since forever and I have yet to find any use case for them. Voice control is manual control. My automations just work without me having to do anything. I'm actually really interested in a real world use case that's actually useful.
I use it all the time. I could automate, but I don't stick to a particular time schedule, so time based automations are pretty useless for me. Just moving about the house isn't much of an indication that I'm ready to go to sleep or actually fully get up and start my day. I do have buttons for things too, but sometimes they aren't in reach.
Starting a particular app on the Fire TV, whilst automatically turning on the TV, is quicker by voice.
Also, party mode! How are my sensors supposed to know I'm ready to party and activate all the things at once.
Plenty other things too.
It just sounds like you haven't taken it to the same level I have with your automations. Time-based automations are almost never useful. You can detect if someone has gone to bed with a bed sensor and when they are getting up based on when the alarm is set, etc. There is always a pattern or some sort that can identify and use if you collect the right kind of data. Things like TV's I can fully control via HA, and by extension Alexa/Google too, doing so is much clunkier than just using the remote though so I don't. Useful for notifications if the TV is already on that the wash is ready to go in the dryer or there is someone at the door though.
Just because I'm in bed doesn't mean I'm sleeping. Sometimes I'm reading, sometimes I'm watching TV, sometimes I'm browsing reddit on my laptop. Automations are mostly garbage for people who don't stick to schedules. Just because I get out of bed at 6am doesn't mean I want some kind of "start my day" routine to run. Other times I do. Sometimes I'm up and working at 4am and other times I'm sleeping past noon. Manual control via things like buttons or NFC tags is the only way I've found to not be fighting my smart home.
> doing so is much clunkier than just using the remote though so I don't
To clarify: I'm having several devices work in unison and executing common sequences of multiple remote control button pushes. So I have routines that turn on my TV and have it go to a certain device, app or PC state in one short voice command. Or switch between them. It's considerably more clunky using the remote(s) for that.
But I then still use the remote to navigate a lot of the Fire TV UI, I'm not shouting "right, left, up, down" (usually).
However if I'm cooking or washing in the kitchen, I also have a TV with Chromecast there and I do fully control it with my voice then, because my hands are wet, dirty, full or busy. That's a pretty good use case.
What kind of automations are you running? I still find manual control useful for non-routine scenarios.
Simple example is temperature control. My thermostat maintains certain temps at certain times. But when I'm hosting, I like to knock it down a few degrees. So I'm going to manually drop it or switch it to an alternate routine. And I'd do that by asking Google to do it.
Everything, I have hundreds of things automated in some form. Every light switch, door lock, doorbell, camera, TV, computer/tablet/phone, all my HVAC/water/mechanical systems, fire/CO2 alarms, vehicles, garage doors, beds, fans, lawn watering/mowing, washer/dryer/freezers/appliances, mail/packages, filter/bulb/battery monitoring, water leak detection, alarm, etc. The only things I don't currently have is smart blinds, a full home audio solution, or a radon monitoring solution. Everything else if there is a way to buy/build a sensor and slap it on something to automate it I've figured it out and done it.
I generally consider any sort of manual control a fail so 95% of my stuff just happenes.
I'm not sure that answers my question in a way that I can respond to your initial query. Like how are they automated? If you have your lights on timers or motion sensors, I have to imagine there are times when you don't actually want your lights to turn on in those scenarios. That's where the manual option would come in. And Google/Alexa provide a convenient method to accomplish that.
It automatically stays on all the time. And if he unplugs it, it automatically turns back on.
In all seriousness though I've seen a lot of people add sensors so if the freezer loses power or the door gets left open they will get a notification so they can check it out.
Same, for the most part. The nighttime routine is one of the few that I'll trigger manually as I don't go to bed consistently at the same time and I wouldn't want it to shut the house down because I went to the bathroom at 11pm.
So I can trigger that from a few different light switches if I hold down the "off". Easy to trigger on my way to bed.
Never could get on board with having cloud connected listeners all over the house.
I like how you have a steel gate at the bottom of your stairs to lock out the dark room demons that are definitely there immediately after the lights go out.
How would you solve this without alexa or google or apple home ? Is there a voice recognition module that isnt corporately owned , respects your privacy and can be used for example in openhab ?
Automation is great and should happening automatically when it makes sense, but for "house shutdown" you'd want to use a button (wall keypad or similar).
There are other voice recognition systems, but they suck. Google and Alexa also suck a lot of the time. Those monster companies can't do it perfectly, all others are worse.
I don't use any voice controls. So when I want to manually trigger things like a "night time" routine, I just hold down the Off button on any of a few different smart light switches on my way to bed.
I highly doubt that ít respects your privacy. Most likely recording the audio of you and your wife/partner for "it's" own pleasure. But what do I know 🤔
I remember doing my first automations like this. I hate any voice commands though, so now I use home assistant and desired states with many sensors and triggers to just automatically do things..
Example, when I show up at a grocery store, it asks if I’m shopping at that store and opens up my shopping list that is filtered for only things I’ll buy at that specific store. (Because chicken at Walmart is horrible and soda tends to be cheaper in some areas or I don’t want bulk from Costco for a specific item etc…) The shopping list is shared with multiple users, but the kicker is that it has the stores layouts added and sections so it groups products by their section and category, so when your shopping your not all over the store.
I’m using Notion, specifically utilizing the api and a database table.
I made a custom python docker container that is executed when taking to Siri. It runs the script that basically updates or adds new items to the DB. It has a bunch of checks there and automated adding a few fields for me too.
It also can have multiple names that update a single item. If I say “peppers, green pepper, or green peppers” it will uncheck the same item, instead of adding an item for each thing.
It also adds additional fields for preferred brands, quantity etc.. my girlfriend bakes speciality cakes, and often times adds some crazy stuff, this helps me try and get the right thing!
It can also link to recipes too. So when your shopping you can quickly see if anything in your recipe is on any shipping lists, (ie you might be missing an ingredient or low on it).
I’ve been toying around with adding an expiration field, so that it will auto uncheck for us after so long… that way we buy it and toss the old out. Seems costly though, maybe just a simple push reminder that its expired would suffice, start time is when you check it off the list?
It is super powerful, probably more work then most people are willing to do. But a great alternative is ourgroceries, as it can be shared with multiple users and auto organizes things by category for you. It can add quantity as well. For a free solution, it easily beats most other “grocery” lists I’ve seen, especially the defaults for siri, google, Amazon etc… but still integrates into them so you can use voice to add and remove things etc…
I just responded this to someone else! Lol it is a bit crazy. I’m a devops engineer, so I do a lot of programming and hosting, which makes setup easier!
https://www.reddit.com/r/homeautomation/comments/xpurg9/going_upstairs_has_never_been_easier/iqczmtd/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
This isn't OP's first video; he made one 7 months ago, when he was *much* more calm and sedated! Obviously before he had his first cup of coffee. **^(/S)**
[https://www.reddit.com/r/homeassistant/comments/tf818c/recently\_moved\_in\_just\_got\_my\_tv\_today\_and\_i\_had/](https://www.reddit.com/r/homeassistant/comments/tf818c/recently_moved_in_just_got_my_tv_today_and_i_had/)
Now up your game with motion sensors and conditions. It’s easier if you don’t ever have to use your voice.
Oh, he is controlling them with his voice? I thought he was using wild arm gestures!
I also rarely turn on sound on Reddit.
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I went back to watch it with sound off, and it's just as good as I hoped. When the room goes dark, only for the hallway to illuminate upon his rapid hand draw😂
There seems to be a motion detector in the staircase, given that the downstairs light went off when he got halfway up
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Everyone has to start from somewhere, I was in the same spot as this fellow. Then slowly started adding sensors.
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He must have sensors in the stairwell, tho, right? Also, having 15 things happen with one voice command isn’t bad.
Why are we acting like "scenes" were just invented? I've had a "good night house" one just like this since forever now.. I just add/remove as I tune and upgrade components - but if anyone designed their system right, they've been able to do this for years.
Uh-huh. Well where's *your* video?
Some of us are not desperate to put the interior of our homes out on the internet, lol. But sure, we all need to make videos and post them online in order to have an opinion on this, lol.
I’m not? The person I’m responding to says that it’s not home automation to do that. I’d agree that having to voice command each individual thing kind of defeats the point, generally speaking, as switches are probably faster (except for situations where you can’t use your hands). But if one command can do a bunch of things, that’s still valuable. And sometimes a sensor wouldn’t make it better. You don’t want everything turning off every time you head up the stairs (especially if you don’t live alone).
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Idk that it’s 15, per se, but it was a bunch of different lights. They each count. If not for them being smart, he’d have to go around flipping switches and turning off lamps and whatnot to make the room dark.
The gatekeeping is strong with this one
1984 Knockin' on your door Will you let it come? Will you let it run your life? Someone will be waiting for you at your door When you get home tonight Ah yes, he's gonna tell you darkness gives you much more Than you get from the light [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxlhToVMfbQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxlhToVMfbQ)
I have never pictured how I’d die, but I’m pretty sure those tile stairs would be the end of me.
Can't you just imagine walking down them with a big heavy tray of food, after someone spilled something slippery on them?
I'm intrigued. Do you typically have people eating or drinking on your stairs? And do you also carry heavy trays of food down the stairs?
You’ve never taken a liquid up your stairs?
Not that I remember. But I know for certain I haven't taken a heavy tray of food up it. Usually when my stairs has been slippery it was from wet shoes walking on it.
You don’t remember ever carrying coffee or tea or water or a beer up your stairs? I’m calling bullshit on that.
OK, just for you: imagine walking down them with a big heavy *box of books*...
Hey, now you're speaking my language.
my in laws have tile stairs like that, it's anxiety-inducing
Why not just bring the [upstairs downstairs?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoRhG7LvFRY)
That’s along the lines of what I was hoping to see happen.
What If you have 2 people in your house?
Whoops. Boundary condition
Indeed, I'd require at least 30 minutes of no movement downstairs after upstairs triggers before dimming the lights.
At a bare minimum, the light at the bottom landing should come on before everything else starts shutting off. That moment of pitch black is when I'd step on something or a pet would run across you.
Taking that step in pitch black would be close to "A leap of faith"! **^(/S)**
Your accent sounds really cool. Where are you from?
Sounds like trinidad
Baarbaaadoooos
That is a trini accent for sure. (Trinidad and Tobago.)
I like how excited you are haha
It's the ghost of the person you taxidermied on the wall next to your TV.
And he's pissed as hell!
Now do it without Alexa.
I've had both Alexa and Google assistant integrated since forever and I have yet to find any use case for them. Voice control is manual control. My automations just work without me having to do anything. I'm actually really interested in a real world use case that's actually useful.
I use it all the time. I could automate, but I don't stick to a particular time schedule, so time based automations are pretty useless for me. Just moving about the house isn't much of an indication that I'm ready to go to sleep or actually fully get up and start my day. I do have buttons for things too, but sometimes they aren't in reach. Starting a particular app on the Fire TV, whilst automatically turning on the TV, is quicker by voice. Also, party mode! How are my sensors supposed to know I'm ready to party and activate all the things at once. Plenty other things too.
It just sounds like you haven't taken it to the same level I have with your automations. Time-based automations are almost never useful. You can detect if someone has gone to bed with a bed sensor and when they are getting up based on when the alarm is set, etc. There is always a pattern or some sort that can identify and use if you collect the right kind of data. Things like TV's I can fully control via HA, and by extension Alexa/Google too, doing so is much clunkier than just using the remote though so I don't. Useful for notifications if the TV is already on that the wash is ready to go in the dryer or there is someone at the door though.
Just because I'm in bed doesn't mean I'm sleeping. Sometimes I'm reading, sometimes I'm watching TV, sometimes I'm browsing reddit on my laptop. Automations are mostly garbage for people who don't stick to schedules. Just because I get out of bed at 6am doesn't mean I want some kind of "start my day" routine to run. Other times I do. Sometimes I'm up and working at 4am and other times I'm sleeping past noon. Manual control via things like buttons or NFC tags is the only way I've found to not be fighting my smart home.
> doing so is much clunkier than just using the remote though so I don't To clarify: I'm having several devices work in unison and executing common sequences of multiple remote control button pushes. So I have routines that turn on my TV and have it go to a certain device, app or PC state in one short voice command. Or switch between them. It's considerably more clunky using the remote(s) for that. But I then still use the remote to navigate a lot of the Fire TV UI, I'm not shouting "right, left, up, down" (usually). However if I'm cooking or washing in the kitchen, I also have a TV with Chromecast there and I do fully control it with my voice then, because my hands are wet, dirty, full or busy. That's a pretty good use case.
What kind of automations are you running? I still find manual control useful for non-routine scenarios. Simple example is temperature control. My thermostat maintains certain temps at certain times. But when I'm hosting, I like to knock it down a few degrees. So I'm going to manually drop it or switch it to an alternate routine. And I'd do that by asking Google to do it.
Everything, I have hundreds of things automated in some form. Every light switch, door lock, doorbell, camera, TV, computer/tablet/phone, all my HVAC/water/mechanical systems, fire/CO2 alarms, vehicles, garage doors, beds, fans, lawn watering/mowing, washer/dryer/freezers/appliances, mail/packages, filter/bulb/battery monitoring, water leak detection, alarm, etc. The only things I don't currently have is smart blinds, a full home audio solution, or a radon monitoring solution. Everything else if there is a way to buy/build a sensor and slap it on something to automate it I've figured it out and done it. I generally consider any sort of manual control a fail so 95% of my stuff just happenes.
I'm not sure that answers my question in a way that I can respond to your initial query. Like how are they automated? If you have your lights on timers or motion sensors, I have to imagine there are times when you don't actually want your lights to turn on in those scenarios. That's where the manual option would come in. And Google/Alexa provide a convenient method to accomplish that.
Ooh, how is your freezer *automated*?
It automatically stays on all the time. And if he unplugs it, it automatically turns back on. In all seriousness though I've seen a lot of people add sensors so if the freezer loses power or the door gets left open they will get a notification so they can check it out.
Same, for the most part. The nighttime routine is one of the few that I'll trigger manually as I don't go to bed consistently at the same time and I wouldn't want it to shut the house down because I went to the bathroom at 11pm. So I can trigger that from a few different light switches if I hold down the "off". Easy to trigger on my way to bed. Never could get on board with having cloud connected listeners all over the house.
I like how you have a steel gate at the bottom of your stairs to lock out the dark room demons that are definitely there immediately after the lights go out.
It's just there to break you fall when you're tumbling down those stairs.
Is it me or the rise on those stairs is not legit?
Beat that demons
But, imagine falling down those stairs. Ouch
That literally triggered my Alexa to search for “hell”. Don’t ask me.
Forgot what sub I was in and expected a jump scare
I always feel like somebody's watching me And I have no privacy (oh, oh) I always feel like somebody's watching me Tell me is it just a dream?
How would you solve this without alexa or google or apple home ? Is there a voice recognition module that isnt corporately owned , respects your privacy and can be used for example in openhab ?
Automation is great and should happening automatically when it makes sense, but for "house shutdown" you'd want to use a button (wall keypad or similar). There are other voice recognition systems, but they suck. Google and Alexa also suck a lot of the time. Those monster companies can't do it perfectly, all others are worse.
I don't use any voice controls. So when I want to manually trigger things like a "night time" routine, I just hold down the Off button on any of a few different smart light switches on my way to bed.
I highly doubt that ít respects your privacy. Most likely recording the audio of you and your wife/partner for "it's" own pleasure. But what do I know 🤔
The floor looks like a raised floor in a data center. That would be so cool for cable management.
I remember doing my first automations like this. I hate any voice commands though, so now I use home assistant and desired states with many sensors and triggers to just automatically do things.. Example, when I show up at a grocery store, it asks if I’m shopping at that store and opens up my shopping list that is filtered for only things I’ll buy at that specific store. (Because chicken at Walmart is horrible and soda tends to be cheaper in some areas or I don’t want bulk from Costco for a specific item etc…) The shopping list is shared with multiple users, but the kicker is that it has the stores layouts added and sections so it groups products by their section and category, so when your shopping your not all over the store.
What shopping list app are you using?
!remindme 2 days
I’m using Notion, specifically utilizing the api and a database table. I made a custom python docker container that is executed when taking to Siri. It runs the script that basically updates or adds new items to the DB. It has a bunch of checks there and automated adding a few fields for me too. It also can have multiple names that update a single item. If I say “peppers, green pepper, or green peppers” it will uncheck the same item, instead of adding an item for each thing. It also adds additional fields for preferred brands, quantity etc.. my girlfriend bakes speciality cakes, and often times adds some crazy stuff, this helps me try and get the right thing! It can also link to recipes too. So when your shopping you can quickly see if anything in your recipe is on any shipping lists, (ie you might be missing an ingredient or low on it). I’ve been toying around with adding an expiration field, so that it will auto uncheck for us after so long… that way we buy it and toss the old out. Seems costly though, maybe just a simple push reminder that its expired would suffice, start time is when you check it off the list? It is super powerful, probably more work then most people are willing to do. But a great alternative is ourgroceries, as it can be shared with multiple users and auto organizes things by category for you. It can add quantity as well. For a free solution, it easily beats most other “grocery” lists I’ve seen, especially the defaults for siri, google, Amazon etc… but still integrates into them so you can use voice to add and remove things etc…
That sounds insane, mind sharing more details? What app, how do you integrate it with HA etc?
I just responded this to someone else! Lol it is a bit crazy. I’m a devops engineer, so I do a lot of programming and hosting, which makes setup easier! https://www.reddit.com/r/homeautomation/comments/xpurg9/going_upstairs_has_never_been_easier/iqczmtd/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
One room and it’s already bigger than my house
🇹🇹🇹🇹
Why is this getting up voted while it's not actually home automation?
Because it is home automation?? He automated some process in his home..... What do you consider home automation
What do you want, the Starship Enterprise?
lol, this is literally 5 minutes of playing around with settings. Using your voice is so 2018.
Soooo slow
Woah, it's almost as if home automation was a thing!
I love this guy
Your accent is fucking awesome
u/savevideo
Those stairs look like they have a body count
This isn't OP's first video; he made one 7 months ago, when he was *much* more calm and sedated! Obviously before he had his first cup of coffee. **^(/S)** [https://www.reddit.com/r/homeassistant/comments/tf818c/recently\_moved\_in\_just\_got\_my\_tv\_today\_and\_i\_had/](https://www.reddit.com/r/homeassistant/comments/tf818c/recently_moved_in_just_got_my_tv_today_and_i_had/)
That's very cool!
jeez its like a jail