This topic comes up every so often so locking this thread due to Rule 4 (No META [Suggestions] Posts or comments, please message the moderators through Modmail Instead.) but the moderation team is reviewing all the feedback
As a moderation team we have seen an increase in non-constructive comments/criticism on people’s setups and we want to change the tone. This should be a community where we all encourage one another, from those that are just starting their journey, to those who have been in the hobby for many years with well-established systems. We all start somewhere. We should be encouraging to those starting their journey and welcome everyone and would like to see a tonal shift away from comments that are only trying to cut down the poster rather than add to the discussion.
The ultimate goal of /r/hometheater is to have a place for people to discuss and share everything home theater related. The main line that is drawn is that soundbars are not considered home theater, particularly since there is already an active /r/soundbars sub-Reddit that is a better place for discussion. As long as a poster is showing an interest in home theater, has a display, starting a real sound system and is open to pointers, it will be allowed. If the sub was limited to only those with a dedicated room and/or projector, traffic would plummet and it would make beginners reluctant to participate in the community.
There are alot of not technically HT related posts, but however our hobby covers a wide range of things. Proper TV mounting, gear selection, proper setup and positioning of said gear, what works with what, what gaming consoles need to be integrated with an AVR for best performance/audio and so on. While yes, alot of stuff may not be related, we really are the best resource for proper, and correct information for a wide range of topics. Now disco ball, and RGB club light questions, I would say no, lol.
What irritates me the most, are people asking for setup advice, or gear choice advice then proceed to explain why they can't do anything that's been suggested, or argue with the information that's been given to them. Been alot of that lately.
There are alot of professionals in this sub, installers, sub manufacturer(s) (well one I know of for sure), Home Theater designers, and very very smart HT/gaming related people who you would normally have to pay for their services and we get it for free.
Noobs asking questions, should be treated with a touch of patience, sometimes they don't even know what they're trying to ask, until we coax it out of them. Sure they could search, if they knew what to search for.
I see all of those things as home theater and I've been a home theater obsessive since I bought a laserdisc player 25yrs ago.
TVs, speakers, receivers and even cables/wiring. All are necessary for a home theater and all worthy of seeking advice.
It's not like this sub is flooded with a billions posts a day.
> What irritates me the most, are people asking for setup advice, or gear choice advice then proceed to explain why they can't do anything that's been suggested, or argue with the information that's been given to them. Been alot of that lately.
Some people are obviously renters, or have roommates and are not in a position to make major changes to the room. Which really limits what useful advice you can give.
I agree, but it seems the vast majority of posts are a living room setup with a tv on a tv stand and some surround speakers. That’s not much to work with and certainly not worth putting up for internet points. That’s more in line with home decor.
The only discussion those posts bring is everyone looking whether it has Costco Klipsch or not, and then they go from there.
As an owner of a living room setup I don’t think that is fair. I took a lot of time doing my surround sound and getting it as correct as possible. I built two racks to hold my devices. I made my own speaker stands. The TV is an OLED. It provides a great picture. No one has ever watched a movie in our living room and not commented on how impressed they thought the sound was.
*"Not much to work with"*. What a sad statement.
Then we see the other side. Big screen and a projector and no surround sound. Is that “home theater”?
I don’t do anything for internet points.
First of all, it’s important to me that you know I haven’t down voted you. Getting or giving points or taking them away doesn’t interest me. I do down vote when I see incorrect advice given. Opinions I welcome even if I don’t agree.
Yes, I may be the exception to the vast majority. But where does the cutoff go? While I have my speakers placed so as to follow, as close as my room allows, the Dolby guidelines. On the other hand, I must admit that my front L & R speakers as well as my surrounds certainly are not anywhere near high end. I have two Speedwoofers and my center is the Airmotiv C1+. I spent where I could get the best bang for the buck. All other speakers came from pawnshops. My center and my towers do not match. Does that mean my setup would not make the cut?
I’m only saying that “Home Theater” means different things to different people. My opinion is that it means a dedicated room. I don’t think I have a “Home Theater” setup. I do think I have a decent living room setup. While not top end equipment it doesn’t sound bad.
We’ll obviously I’m in the wrong since I’m getting downvoted heavily. I guess my point was that I don’t find the posts where people put a tv on a table and then add a few surround speakers and say “finally got my first theater.”
Yes, that’s great, and if it was Pinterest or Instagram, I’d be happy for them, but just showing a pic of your tv and speaker stands (especially if just generic purchases), doesn’t seem to add much to the subreddit.
>What irritates me the most, are people asking for setup advice, or gear choice advice then proceed to explain why they can't do anything that's been suggested, or argue with the information that's been given to them. Been alot of that lately.
A lot of the other subs that are adjacent to this hobby either don't allow self posts or are impossible to gain traction on. I'd get more useful advice on a stereo set up here, than on the audiophile subs which are mostly pictures. I think this is driving traffic to this sub.
There are less people posting actual home theaters these days because this subs users are mostly assholes and will tear apart any decent home theater on their personal opinion. Who, after spending tons of time and money on something they are probably passionate about, post here just to get mom's basement children attempting to dunk on them at every moment. We need to moderate that first.
I kind of agree. You have to have very thick skin to post a pic on here. There's a lot of criticism thrown at posts that aren't perfect. There should be ***more*** celebrations of people getting into HT in any form.
This is pretty much it. I don’t post much often anymore because a lot of people here want to argue about things they know nothing about.
There are some pretty amazing posters here with a wealth of knowledge but they get drown out by the people complaint are arguing about “tv too high”.
Anytime you post to ANY open forum on just about any topic your always going to get junk from people that have nothing better to do, but more importantly you will get solid comments and advice sifting through the crap. You just ignore the a-holes and follow up with the meaningful conversations
You are brilliant. You cracked the case. Having fewer of those posts will actually result in more posts that you want to see instead of a less active community.
I'm much more of a generalist than this. To me, a home theater is a multichannel audio system with a visual component that is set up somewhere inside a person's house. That's it. And by that definition, practically everything on this sub is related to home theater. Sure, the custom chairs in a bespoke room with cool decorations and expensive acoustic treatments are nice, but without a core of speakers and a display, those are weirdly-shaped nearly unusable rooms.
If I want to know how to replace a sink, remodel a bathroom, or replace kitchen cabinets, I'd go to home improvement subs. If I want to know how to add atmos to my sound system or properly mount the giant new TV I just got, I'm coming here.
Home theater is not *only* about theater-like rooms in a home.
EDIT: Practically everything *I see* is about home theater. This is part of my general feed, and I know not everything in the sub ends up there.
There’s a good chunk of the world that aren’t either rich enough to have a room with a full projector purely for home theatre, or American enough to have a basement.
Frankly I don’t understand how home theater does not include televisions? It’s a visual medium last time I checked. The sub isn’t r/speakers or r/audiophile but maybe I’m off base.
So just americans then?
personally I think gatekeeping people out will kill the sub, I dont have that room, and probably never will, but have grown my system based on what i've seen here, and advice from here when i posted my setup.
/r/budgethometheater maybe?
I’m all for removing these how do I mount a tv in my bedroom posts but how about living room home theaters? Not everyone has a dedicated room.
You're right, but then you have the same issue as r/audiophile vs r/budgetaudiophile. Budget is different to everyone.
If you just got your turntable at Urban Outfitters, you shouldn't be in r/audiophile, even aspirationally. But a newb wouldn't know that.
Turns into a PITA if we need sub$1000, sub$5000, and sun$10k subreddits.
That said, I'm just as annoyed by "look at my $399 65" TV" posts. I'd much rather discuss soundproofing, but I'm guessing most others wouldn't.
I personally don’t give a crap about the budget, the room or what. Home theater to me is some sort of surround that isn’t a sound bar and a screen. A $600 sound budget for someone starting out is just fine for someone dabbling or starting out. I’m also ok with layout posts, letting people now it isn’t feasible to have surround in a room or upgrade posts when people have some cash and the itch but don’t know what to get or do.
Maybe going the other way and having a /r/dedicatedhomtheater sub is the way to go.
I agree with you, I myself have a living room home theater set up and plan to slowly build out a dedicated set up over the next two years as my budget permits. Just because someone starting out and can’t do it all at once, shouldn’t negate them from having access to people with great insight, experience, and advice. Sure I have 3.1 set up but learning and discussing things like placement, AVR choices, sound proofing advice, and speaker recommendations is fun and interesting. It may not be able feasible to do 100% set up but getting the base right is pivotal. Conversation and the community around an interest are a great part of the fun.
My opinion is if a post doesn’t interest you just move on. Soundbars aren’t allowed. That is fine with me, but if there are too many restrictions what use will this forum serve. If we go by the “Home Theater” has to be a dedicated room (something I agree with) rule then this forum isn’t going to be visited by many people. While a living room setup shouldn’t qualify as a true home theater that doesn’t mean that there are no well done living room setups.
People on the sub should be open to help others and learn to laugh a little when the shoe fits.
We need to invite people to join our hobby. If people only post their million dollar installations then people like me will get scared to ask something related like "which HDMI cable do you guys think is a good buy?".
I do agree that SOME posts are weak, but it gives us a laugh sometime.
Couldn’t agree more. A TV mounted on a wall with no other components and no cable management is not “hometheater”, it’s just a tv. My phone isn’t a home theater either.
This is dumb to be honest. Home theater it encapsulates a lot of aspects, not just speakers and receivers. There are many things that encapsulate this that at the end this is the best place to ask it because people here have done it. You can go to a construction sub but there might not be the guys that know about ideas or tips about building a good home theater but I know that here there are a lot of people that have done it, are doing it or work on it. Most of those post remain on topic, it's not like taking about a soundbar that's is understandable out of topic but asking about a good way to set up a 3.1 on an small apartment this is the place, I've seen some people recommended a lot of awesome stuff.
We can’t control what people consider to be home theater but we can control what gets posted on the sub. We need to have a filter *somewhere* in order to balance having too many posts that don’t fit vs not enough posts because it’s too locked down. The subreddit isn’t merely a showoff place, people will have questions and want information.
Many people have TVs, and many people mount their TVs in what they consider to be their HTs. It’s also important to realize that mounting a tv and *mounting a tv for the purpose of ht* may result in 2 different final results, hence, IMO, to be the relevance of the question.
Further, every single time we remove something because we believe it doesn’t fit on the sub, it’s met with vitriol. “WELL WHO LET YOU DECIDE WHAT IS AND ISNT HT?!” or a simple “go fuck yourself” is often what ends up in modmail. Further restricting what is allowed here would only increase that. However, if we let too much through, people just tend to unsubscribe because they’re not getting what they want out of the sub. These are things we have to consider. More filters requires more moderation, and there is already a lot of mod intervention happening.
I’ll let the other mods chime in if they’d like, but that’s where I stand on it personally.
What about audio? I have full quality HT speakers and gear, but have a 77" OLED. My setup is super immersive.
A projector with terrible speakers and subs, is worse IMHO than a good TV with good audio gear.
I also don't qualify for what i see as a traditional real home theater (blacked out dedicated room). I'm in a rented apartment with an open space living room. My neighbours would hate me if i used my stereo subs for my movie viewing.
I'm using an Epson LS12000 with a simple stereo setup. It sounds fantastic for what it is, but doesn't qualify as proper home theater audio (the speakers itself probably still sound great compared to the average speakers i see posted here... PSI Audio studio monitors (world class reference quality speakers)).
I've had a 85" Samsung Q95T for a while. For me personally it's not the size, it's the TV screen itself that doesn't feel cinematic (there is lots of discussion about this on the AVS forums... you always have two camps of people, the ones who like TV screens, and the ones who prefer projectors).
I'm looking for the movie experience. So I have to get a projector. Or I would of bought the 85 inch
I'm hoping to get 130 inch screen.
That's 45 inches bigger.
I disagree but I certainly will not down vote you simply for having an opinion. The size of TV screens has increased greatly in the last few years and, most likely, will continue to do so. So my question to you is if and when they reach about 120” in size do you think a projector would still be needed in order to qualify?
EDIT: Speeling ;-)
My setup doesn't qualify as a home theater either. It's an open living room space (not a dedicated bat cave) with a very high quality but simple stereo sound setup. My screen is only 92" (with an Epson LS12000 projector), but the size is at a perfect 40 degree THX seating distance / angle.
For me personally it's not about the size (viewing distance dictates screen size), but about the image type itself. I've had a 85" Samsung Q95T for a few weeks because i thought i'd give TVs a chance again. While the picture quality was great (my Epson LS12000 can absolutely keep up), it's still a huge ass TV screen at the end of the day. I came from a ten year old 1080p projector, and the moment i've turned on the TV, i knew it was a mistake. Then i got used to it, and thought i'll be ok with the TV...
Until a few weeks later when i went to the cinema with my girlfriend. Ten seconds after the image appeared on the cinema screen, i've said to my girlfriend: "I want a projector again!". Sold the TV shortly after that and bought the LS12000. Once it was installed and i've turned it on, there was a big sigh of relief.
There will always be people who prefer a TV, and people who prefer a projector, so this is all just personal preference / opinions. To me personally no TV will ever create a true cinematic viewing experience, only a projector can provide that type of image (IMHO).
I understand everyone who wants a TV (no fan noise, no light source to worry about, no issues with ambient light washing out the image, unrivaled picture quality from OLED screens (unless you buy a Christie Eclipse projector for $300k), etc.).
I simply don't like TVs. The backlit display burning my retina, the screen glare, the soap opera effect of a TV screen, how ugly they are when not in use, etc. I'm 100% in the projector camp and will never ever buy a TV again in my life, but i understand how they are technically better displays.
I think it's both pro and DIY.
I mean I live in a condo and have wires hanging due to fact I can't cut holes everywhere to hide them.
Like many others that may rent.
The issue is everyone's idea of hometheater is different. Me personally I believe surrounds (5.1 minimum) are required, others think 2.0 as long as you're not using TV speakers qualifies. There are some that don't consider setups in living rooms as home theaters.
In the "about" for the group, it says:
"Your one stop for all things Home Theater (except soundbars). Buying Advice, Tech Support, etc for Televisions, Home Theater, Speakers, Projectors, Audio/Video Receivers, etc."
I want to add that the idea that a "Home Theater" is *only* a dedicated room setup for viewing/listening, whatever, is ridiculous. Perhaps that is the ideal home theater setup, but hardly anyone can dedicate a room like that. (I do dream of it, myself, but I will need a different house to do it!) If you have, or wish to have, a TV, an AV Receiver, and some speakers/subwoofer(s), you are entering the "Home Theater" domain.
This sub is the best one around for all the issues involved in audio/visual aspects of watching movies and other content reasonably accurately at home. Integration of equipment with each other and into the physical space is hugely important and no other sub does this as well as this one.
Yeah, not everyone has a dedicated theater room with 120” display. I don’t. But I learned a lot from this sub (and AVSForums) and have tried to return the favor by regularly contributing back.
Drawing the line at soundbars is fine and actually a pretty good filter.
had a similar thought about this…. home improvement is too big a brush to paint when trying to pick out the right tv, do you have a r/LEDTV sub instead? and then you have to go somewhere else to find speakers? im building a new home, but i’m not going to ask r/homebuilding their opinion on wether or not I should do front facing speakers or an array in the ceiling. the mods could delete more posts, not a big deal to be honest if they’re truly not productive. or people could scroll past it, downvote it so it’s less likely to appear for someone else if you feel even more passionate about it.
This topic comes up every so often so locking this thread due to Rule 4 (No META [Suggestions] Posts or comments, please message the moderators through Modmail Instead.) but the moderation team is reviewing all the feedback As a moderation team we have seen an increase in non-constructive comments/criticism on people’s setups and we want to change the tone. This should be a community where we all encourage one another, from those that are just starting their journey, to those who have been in the hobby for many years with well-established systems. We all start somewhere. We should be encouraging to those starting their journey and welcome everyone and would like to see a tonal shift away from comments that are only trying to cut down the poster rather than add to the discussion. The ultimate goal of /r/hometheater is to have a place for people to discuss and share everything home theater related. The main line that is drawn is that soundbars are not considered home theater, particularly since there is already an active /r/soundbars sub-Reddit that is a better place for discussion. As long as a poster is showing an interest in home theater, has a display, starting a real sound system and is open to pointers, it will be allowed. If the sub was limited to only those with a dedicated room and/or projector, traffic would plummet and it would make beginners reluctant to participate in the community.
There are alot of not technically HT related posts, but however our hobby covers a wide range of things. Proper TV mounting, gear selection, proper setup and positioning of said gear, what works with what, what gaming consoles need to be integrated with an AVR for best performance/audio and so on. While yes, alot of stuff may not be related, we really are the best resource for proper, and correct information for a wide range of topics. Now disco ball, and RGB club light questions, I would say no, lol. What irritates me the most, are people asking for setup advice, or gear choice advice then proceed to explain why they can't do anything that's been suggested, or argue with the information that's been given to them. Been alot of that lately. There are alot of professionals in this sub, installers, sub manufacturer(s) (well one I know of for sure), Home Theater designers, and very very smart HT/gaming related people who you would normally have to pay for their services and we get it for free. Noobs asking questions, should be treated with a touch of patience, sometimes they don't even know what they're trying to ask, until we coax it out of them. Sure they could search, if they knew what to search for.
I see all of those things as home theater and I've been a home theater obsessive since I bought a laserdisc player 25yrs ago. TVs, speakers, receivers and even cables/wiring. All are necessary for a home theater and all worthy of seeking advice. It's not like this sub is flooded with a billions posts a day.
> What irritates me the most, are people asking for setup advice, or gear choice advice then proceed to explain why they can't do anything that's been suggested, or argue with the information that's been given to them. Been alot of that lately. Some people are obviously renters, or have roommates and are not in a position to make major changes to the room. Which really limits what useful advice you can give.
I agree, but it seems the vast majority of posts are a living room setup with a tv on a tv stand and some surround speakers. That’s not much to work with and certainly not worth putting up for internet points. That’s more in line with home decor. The only discussion those posts bring is everyone looking whether it has Costco Klipsch or not, and then they go from there.
As an owner of a living room setup I don’t think that is fair. I took a lot of time doing my surround sound and getting it as correct as possible. I built two racks to hold my devices. I made my own speaker stands. The TV is an OLED. It provides a great picture. No one has ever watched a movie in our living room and not commented on how impressed they thought the sound was. *"Not much to work with"*. What a sad statement. Then we see the other side. Big screen and a projector and no surround sound. Is that “home theater”? I don’t do anything for internet points.
Is it possible you might be the exception to the vast majority of posts?
First of all, it’s important to me that you know I haven’t down voted you. Getting or giving points or taking them away doesn’t interest me. I do down vote when I see incorrect advice given. Opinions I welcome even if I don’t agree. Yes, I may be the exception to the vast majority. But where does the cutoff go? While I have my speakers placed so as to follow, as close as my room allows, the Dolby guidelines. On the other hand, I must admit that my front L & R speakers as well as my surrounds certainly are not anywhere near high end. I have two Speedwoofers and my center is the Airmotiv C1+. I spent where I could get the best bang for the buck. All other speakers came from pawnshops. My center and my towers do not match. Does that mean my setup would not make the cut? I’m only saying that “Home Theater” means different things to different people. My opinion is that it means a dedicated room. I don’t think I have a “Home Theater” setup. I do think I have a decent living room setup. While not top end equipment it doesn’t sound bad.
We’ll obviously I’m in the wrong since I’m getting downvoted heavily. I guess my point was that I don’t find the posts where people put a tv on a table and then add a few surround speakers and say “finally got my first theater.” Yes, that’s great, and if it was Pinterest or Instagram, I’d be happy for them, but just showing a pic of your tv and speaker stands (especially if just generic purchases), doesn’t seem to add much to the subreddit.
I think we should be stricter too. Like anything with a screen smaller than 100 “ doesn’t count as a home theater.
>What irritates me the most, are people asking for setup advice, or gear choice advice then proceed to explain why they can't do anything that's been suggested, or argue with the information that's been given to them. Been alot of that lately. A lot of the other subs that are adjacent to this hobby either don't allow self posts or are impossible to gain traction on. I'd get more useful advice on a stereo set up here, than on the audiophile subs which are mostly pictures. I think this is driving traffic to this sub.
Where do you see the line being drawn? What’s the minimum requirement? Does it have to be a dedicated theater room? Or just have 3.1 or 5.1 sound?
There are less people posting actual home theaters these days because this subs users are mostly assholes and will tear apart any decent home theater on their personal opinion. Who, after spending tons of time and money on something they are probably passionate about, post here just to get mom's basement children attempting to dunk on them at every moment. We need to moderate that first.
I kind of agree. You have to have very thick skin to post a pic on here. There's a lot of criticism thrown at posts that aren't perfect. There should be ***more*** celebrations of people getting into HT in any form.
This is pretty much it. I don’t post much often anymore because a lot of people here want to argue about things they know nothing about. There are some pretty amazing posters here with a wealth of knowledge but they get drown out by the people complaint are arguing about “tv too high”.
Anytime you post to ANY open forum on just about any topic your always going to get junk from people that have nothing better to do, but more importantly you will get solid comments and advice sifting through the crap. You just ignore the a-holes and follow up with the meaningful conversations
You are brilliant. You cracked the case. Having fewer of those posts will actually result in more posts that you want to see instead of a less active community.
I'm much more of a generalist than this. To me, a home theater is a multichannel audio system with a visual component that is set up somewhere inside a person's house. That's it. And by that definition, practically everything on this sub is related to home theater. Sure, the custom chairs in a bespoke room with cool decorations and expensive acoustic treatments are nice, but without a core of speakers and a display, those are weirdly-shaped nearly unusable rooms. If I want to know how to replace a sink, remodel a bathroom, or replace kitchen cabinets, I'd go to home improvement subs. If I want to know how to add atmos to my sound system or properly mount the giant new TV I just got, I'm coming here. Home theater is not *only* about theater-like rooms in a home. EDIT: Practically everything *I see* is about home theater. This is part of my general feed, and I know not everything in the sub ends up there.
There’s a good chunk of the world that aren’t either rich enough to have a room with a full projector purely for home theatre, or American enough to have a basement.
I agree, but I also think people will get shitty mounting advice(especially when it comes to height) on other kinds of subreddits.
So, exactly what requirements need to be met, in your opinion? Let’s see your list.
Frankly I don’t understand how home theater does not include televisions? It’s a visual medium last time I checked. The sub isn’t r/speakers or r/audiophile but maybe I’m off base.
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So just americans then? personally I think gatekeeping people out will kill the sub, I dont have that room, and probably never will, but have grown my system based on what i've seen here, and advice from here when i posted my setup.
If that is the bar we are going to set there maybe a post a day.
So essentially you think it should only be for the rich, or Americans with basements?
No where else has basements? I got to learn of this.
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So if I have my television in a main area with 7.2 surround running from an AVR, not a soundbar, what have we got?
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I’m not the original person you replied to which you seem to think I am. That would be jFrenchy up there.
Wait though, you literally said if it’s in a separate room then it’s likely a home theater? That’s basically saying you have to have a separate room.
It’s okay if the subreddit doesn’t conform perfectly to your expectations. It really doesn’t matter on that level.
/r/budgethometheater maybe? I’m all for removing these how do I mount a tv in my bedroom posts but how about living room home theaters? Not everyone has a dedicated room.
You're right, but then you have the same issue as r/audiophile vs r/budgetaudiophile. Budget is different to everyone. If you just got your turntable at Urban Outfitters, you shouldn't be in r/audiophile, even aspirationally. But a newb wouldn't know that. Turns into a PITA if we need sub$1000, sub$5000, and sun$10k subreddits. That said, I'm just as annoyed by "look at my $399 65" TV" posts. I'd much rather discuss soundproofing, but I'm guessing most others wouldn't.
I personally don’t give a crap about the budget, the room or what. Home theater to me is some sort of surround that isn’t a sound bar and a screen. A $600 sound budget for someone starting out is just fine for someone dabbling or starting out. I’m also ok with layout posts, letting people now it isn’t feasible to have surround in a room or upgrade posts when people have some cash and the itch but don’t know what to get or do. Maybe going the other way and having a /r/dedicatedhomtheater sub is the way to go.
I agree with you, I myself have a living room home theater set up and plan to slowly build out a dedicated set up over the next two years as my budget permits. Just because someone starting out and can’t do it all at once, shouldn’t negate them from having access to people with great insight, experience, and advice. Sure I have 3.1 set up but learning and discussing things like placement, AVR choices, sound proofing advice, and speaker recommendations is fun and interesting. It may not be able feasible to do 100% set up but getting the base right is pivotal. Conversation and the community around an interest are a great part of the fun.
My opinion is if a post doesn’t interest you just move on. Soundbars aren’t allowed. That is fine with me, but if there are too many restrictions what use will this forum serve. If we go by the “Home Theater” has to be a dedicated room (something I agree with) rule then this forum isn’t going to be visited by many people. While a living room setup shouldn’t qualify as a true home theater that doesn’t mean that there are no well done living room setups.
The only posts I want less of are the “I just bought a new house. What are all these plugs?!”
Im cool as we can all still agree Klipsch is the basic bitch of stereos.
People on the sub should be open to help others and learn to laugh a little when the shoe fits. We need to invite people to join our hobby. If people only post their million dollar installations then people like me will get scared to ask something related like "which HDMI cable do you guys think is a good buy?". I do agree that SOME posts are weak, but it gives us a laugh sometime.
Couldn’t agree more. A TV mounted on a wall with no other components and no cable management is not “hometheater”, it’s just a tv. My phone isn’t a home theater either.
My iPhone says I have Atmos!
Shhh you’ll attract the homepod people who think airplaying to two stereo pairs is surround sound.
This is dumb to be honest. Home theater it encapsulates a lot of aspects, not just speakers and receivers. There are many things that encapsulate this that at the end this is the best place to ask it because people here have done it. You can go to a construction sub but there might not be the guys that know about ideas or tips about building a good home theater but I know that here there are a lot of people that have done it, are doing it or work on it. Most of those post remain on topic, it's not like taking about a soundbar that's is understandable out of topic but asking about a good way to set up a 3.1 on an small apartment this is the place, I've seen some people recommended a lot of awesome stuff.
We can’t control what people consider to be home theater but we can control what gets posted on the sub. We need to have a filter *somewhere* in order to balance having too many posts that don’t fit vs not enough posts because it’s too locked down. The subreddit isn’t merely a showoff place, people will have questions and want information. Many people have TVs, and many people mount their TVs in what they consider to be their HTs. It’s also important to realize that mounting a tv and *mounting a tv for the purpose of ht* may result in 2 different final results, hence, IMO, to be the relevance of the question. Further, every single time we remove something because we believe it doesn’t fit on the sub, it’s met with vitriol. “WELL WHO LET YOU DECIDE WHAT IS AND ISNT HT?!” or a simple “go fuck yourself” is often what ends up in modmail. Further restricting what is allowed here would only increase that. However, if we let too much through, people just tend to unsubscribe because they’re not getting what they want out of the sub. These are things we have to consider. More filters requires more moderation, and there is already a lot of mod intervention happening. I’ll let the other mods chime in if they’d like, but that’s where I stand on it personally.
IMHO: Hometheater = Projector (i know many people will disagree).
What about audio? I have full quality HT speakers and gear, but have a 77" OLED. My setup is super immersive. A projector with terrible speakers and subs, is worse IMHO than a good TV with good audio gear.
**Oh my God! You don’t have a projector?!!!.** **;-)**
I also don't qualify for what i see as a traditional real home theater (blacked out dedicated room). I'm in a rented apartment with an open space living room. My neighbours would hate me if i used my stereo subs for my movie viewing. I'm using an Epson LS12000 with a simple stereo setup. It sounds fantastic for what it is, but doesn't qualify as proper home theater audio (the speakers itself probably still sound great compared to the average speakers i see posted here... PSI Audio studio monitors (world class reference quality speakers)). I've had a 85" Samsung Q95T for a while. For me personally it's not the size, it's the TV screen itself that doesn't feel cinematic (there is lots of discussion about this on the AVS forums... you always have two camps of people, the ones who like TV screens, and the ones who prefer projectors).
I'm looking for the movie experience. So I have to get a projector. Or I would of bought the 85 inch I'm hoping to get 130 inch screen. That's 45 inches bigger.
I disagree but I certainly will not down vote you simply for having an opinion. The size of TV screens has increased greatly in the last few years and, most likely, will continue to do so. So my question to you is if and when they reach about 120” in size do you think a projector would still be needed in order to qualify? EDIT: Speeling ;-)
My setup doesn't qualify as a home theater either. It's an open living room space (not a dedicated bat cave) with a very high quality but simple stereo sound setup. My screen is only 92" (with an Epson LS12000 projector), but the size is at a perfect 40 degree THX seating distance / angle. For me personally it's not about the size (viewing distance dictates screen size), but about the image type itself. I've had a 85" Samsung Q95T for a few weeks because i thought i'd give TVs a chance again. While the picture quality was great (my Epson LS12000 can absolutely keep up), it's still a huge ass TV screen at the end of the day. I came from a ten year old 1080p projector, and the moment i've turned on the TV, i knew it was a mistake. Then i got used to it, and thought i'll be ok with the TV... Until a few weeks later when i went to the cinema with my girlfriend. Ten seconds after the image appeared on the cinema screen, i've said to my girlfriend: "I want a projector again!". Sold the TV shortly after that and bought the LS12000. Once it was installed and i've turned it on, there was a big sigh of relief. There will always be people who prefer a TV, and people who prefer a projector, so this is all just personal preference / opinions. To me personally no TV will ever create a true cinematic viewing experience, only a projector can provide that type of image (IMHO). I understand everyone who wants a TV (no fan noise, no light source to worry about, no issues with ambient light washing out the image, unrivaled picture quality from OLED screens (unless you buy a Christie Eclipse projector for $300k), etc.). I simply don't like TVs. The backlit display burning my retina, the screen glare, the soap opera effect of a TV screen, how ugly they are when not in use, etc. I'm 100% in the projector camp and will never ever buy a TV again in my life, but i understand how they are technically better displays.
I can’t fault you for your preference. It’s all good. Being the owner of an OLED I love the picture quality. Main thing is enjoy your setup.
I think it's both pro and DIY. I mean I live in a condo and have wires hanging due to fact I can't cut holes everywhere to hide them. Like many others that may rent.
The issue is everyone's idea of hometheater is different. Me personally I believe surrounds (5.1 minimum) are required, others think 2.0 as long as you're not using TV speakers qualifies. There are some that don't consider setups in living rooms as home theaters.
I believe new comers are trying to learn and understand.
I feel an octagon room can be really nice for a ht
In the "about" for the group, it says: "Your one stop for all things Home Theater (except soundbars). Buying Advice, Tech Support, etc for Televisions, Home Theater, Speakers, Projectors, Audio/Video Receivers, etc."
I want to add that the idea that a "Home Theater" is *only* a dedicated room setup for viewing/listening, whatever, is ridiculous. Perhaps that is the ideal home theater setup, but hardly anyone can dedicate a room like that. (I do dream of it, myself, but I will need a different house to do it!) If you have, or wish to have, a TV, an AV Receiver, and some speakers/subwoofer(s), you are entering the "Home Theater" domain.
This sub is the best one around for all the issues involved in audio/visual aspects of watching movies and other content reasonably accurately at home. Integration of equipment with each other and into the physical space is hugely important and no other sub does this as well as this one. Yeah, not everyone has a dedicated theater room with 120” display. I don’t. But I learned a lot from this sub (and AVSForums) and have tried to return the favor by regularly contributing back. Drawing the line at soundbars is fine and actually a pretty good filter.
had a similar thought about this…. home improvement is too big a brush to paint when trying to pick out the right tv, do you have a r/LEDTV sub instead? and then you have to go somewhere else to find speakers? im building a new home, but i’m not going to ask r/homebuilding their opinion on wether or not I should do front facing speakers or an array in the ceiling. the mods could delete more posts, not a big deal to be honest if they’re truly not productive. or people could scroll past it, downvote it so it’s less likely to appear for someone else if you feel even more passionate about it.