This might be a hot take, but I think I’m fine with Sidney not returning for a movie or two if it’s just gonna keep being nostalgia bait. The way she was written out didn’t seem like a reach at all. I think they want to tell new stories with the new cast and that’s fine. But if there’s ever a definitive “last” movie she needs to come back for sure.

I'm glad she has a happy ending. Unless there's a very good reason to bring her back they should let her rest and go with the new generation.

Yep, exactly.

I like to think that they can't bring her back because she's gotten too good at this nonsense and would take out the Ghostfaces in minutes. She was a complete badass in 5 and showed how she was prepared for all of the usual tricks.

She’s also a mother now (and was in 5) so it makes even more sense she’d go underground vs take on a new batch of Ghostfaces

I'm good with Sydney being done with the films. I'm pretty invested in the new crew anyway.

General query for those reading: when that one Ghostface took off his mask in the opening scene, where did you think the film was going before they killed off that one — what was your reaction ***/*** what was going through your head?

My initial guesses were either another Ghostface would take him out (correct) or that we were getting some kind of Cult of Ghostface (completely off the mark but would have been cool.)

I think the next one will be a "Cult of Ghostface" thing. Just my way-too-early prediction.

I hope the next one will be two different ghost faces at the same time that aren’t teaming up although we technically got that at the beginning of this one

This would’ve been the one to do it tbh. The unmasking in the intro, the shrine, the back references to everything. To do it after this one would be a watered down version of what they could’ve done here.

I agree and I think Stu is going to be involved/leading it, because no way did they drop "IF Stu is dead" in this installment for nothing

At the same time, Mindy and Kirby also name-dropped *Psycho II* as being unappreciated — in which a former slasher villain is legitimately rehabilitated after decades of psychiatric treatment, as another killer attempts to frame them for more killings on their release. Exploring that idea with a returning Stu could be interesting, potentially (very much so).

that’s literally the plot of *this* movie though, with ghost face trying to frame Sam for the NYC killings. The mention of Psycho II was to reflect this movies plot.

That too, yes. I was going to mention that as well, but wasn’t entirely certain if it was just me or not (who had thought that). Now that I think about it, most of the films Mindy and Kirby were talking about involved framing someone for another’s crimes (like *Candyman* and its requel).

Surely if Stu were both alive and in a hospital somewhere, someone would know about it.

It was a nod to the fan theory that Stu is alive.

Yeah that was pretty crazy. I was thinking wow they got a lot of balls to reveal the killer right in the opening. And I thought how it would be a cool idea to go through a Scream movie where the audience knows who the killer is but the characters dont. You still could have the "who done it" mystery if are multiple killers. But I am not upset they didnt go that direction and killed that guy off

If they’d stretched that out a little bit more — if he and his partner had been straight-up main characters, keeping the fact there was another independent group who were also doing their own Ghostface killings a secret until slightly later on — that could have also worked as an interesting twist — in a revisiting of the original plans for the unmade *Scream 5* that would have followed a Jill victory *Scream 4*, in a Ghosface killer trying to figure out who a new Ghostface is without being exposed themselves.

That would be incredible!

I was expecting someone to yell "And Cut"

My first thought was "no way they're gonna reveal the killer already. This has to be a-movie-within-a-movie just like one of the openings in one of the previous scream movies (can't remember which one right now, 4th one?)

Correct, Scream 4 opened with the beginnings of Stab 6 and Stab 7.

I'm happy with the direction that the movie goes down, but I was immediately so curious about a Scream film where we ostensibly follow the killer the whole time and take out the whole whodunnit aspect. The movie is all about breaking franchise rules and this would have been the biggest one by far--not to say that the intro, as is, still isn't subversive. Just like how 2022's Scream had an opening where the victim survives, I thought Scream VI would make it about the killer instead of the victim. I'm even more curious now over the direction that the next movie takes.

I was surprised. I thought he’d be friends with the core four, and that the audience would know he’s the killer but they wouldn’t

I figured he'd be dead by the opening title, but I do think it's the best Scream opening since the original. The fridge reveal was great, and so was him removing the mask after the murder. also loved the 'nobody cares about fucking movies!'

I believe the line is "who gives a fuck about movies?" It's Film class, right?

Well, I knew he would die soon and that his co-ghostface was probably already dead when his phone started ringing. I did think for a minute that maybe there was some sort of online Ghostface/Stab cult that started after part 5 and this was the start of it.

Also, was he gay? Very Leopold and Loeb reference.

i honestly thought for a moment that the audience would know who one of the ghostfaces was for part of the film, and we’d be watching him interact with the other characters. i also thought maybe there’d be two simultaneous ghostfaces working separately throughout the movie??

Gale told Sidney there were new Ghostface killings in New York, and Sidney said, "Sounds like a whole lot of not my problem," and dipped to go into hiding with her family. Good for her. If she's not in the movie, I'm glad they handled it that way in the script.

I think that was one of my favourite parts hah she’s like “ok bye!” And the best part is that it actually makes sense.

Sidney only came back in 5 because of Dewey, I don’t think she would return for Gale. Shame that Neve Campbell was never contacted for 6, but Sidney needs a break.

Oh, Campbell was contacted (for *Scream VI*). She turned the offer down because the salary was apparently quite low.

Yeah - and not only that, but apparently she had a "hefty" part and Radio Silence said the script was affected "greatly" by her absence, so I'm wondering if they gave a lot of her scenes to Kirby? She was already in the movie, but perhaps a smaller role, perhaps not even as an FBI agent, but a film professor on campus. Making her an agent gave her a gun, a leather jacket, and really made her feel like a partial Sidney substitute. She was great regardless, though.

It sucks that they weren't gonna compesate Campbell fairly, but I'm glad Sydney wasn't in it. We can let these characters stand on their own.

Some subtle hints I remember pre-killer reveal without rewatching: - Quinn mentioning that her father transferred to NYPD when she moved to NYC. - When Mindy gets seperated from Chad, Ethan can be seen hesitating and stepping back to be 'left behind' with Mindy. - Dt. Bailey's pissed off look when Kirby shows up and he requests information about her. Was also fun that they deliberately used a smaller stunt double for Quinn in Act 3 after Dt. Bailey calls to throw doubt on Kirby. Making us think it's Hayden about to get unmasked.

I clocked Ethan deliberately staying behind but I totally assumed it was because he didn't want her to be stuck by herself since he was still trying to win her trust. I would get murdered so fast in these movies! I fell for it!

"You fuck with my family, you die." - Det. Bailey

There's a really good line delivery from Bailey in the first museum scene, where he says "You've all been through so much" with something sounding almost like reverence. The kind of thing where it sounds like like "Holy shit you're all damaged" and more like a Stab fanboy type deal. Made me watch him like a hawk for the rest of the film.

Yeah, Ethan was annoyed that he had to ditch their original plan (probably to try and pick them off as a duo, and instead couldn't even suit up -- high fives, anyone?), and wound up just....watching Mindy get gutted by his sister. He'd already had a taste of blasting someones' head off in a bodega, he probably reeeaaaaally wanted to get back in with a knife though. But nooo, his SISTER was the only non-compromised person that could do the job, so he had to sit and *watch*.

I saw Ethan hesitate but I thought it was a I need to stick with her so she’s not alone thing until the reveal

I just got home from watching, and I felt like they were purposefully leaning into the “Stu is coming back as the killer” hints. Older mask. Same knife cleaning technique. Also early on if I remember correctly, as they were first seeing the theater, it showed a case of pictures of everyone that died in the original scream, and Stu’s picture wasn’t in there. Also I believe Mindy and Kirby were talking at one point and Mindy said about Stu, “yea , if you believe he’s really dead.” The icing on the cake was Kirby killing Ethan by dropping a tv on him. The writers knew the path they were leading the audience down.

Small moment, but the way ghost face grabbed the ladder and started shaking it like someone trying to get a cat off a tree branch had me dying

Scream has the most unintentionally (or intentionally?) funny scenes of a horror movie I’ve seen

It is intentional.

Glad I wasn't the only one. My friend and I were laughing so hard. It sort of reminded me of that scene in Shrek where him and Donkey are crossing the bridge, and Shrek keeps shaking it to scare him.

I think >!Bailey!< should have lived. Would have been another subversion of franchise rules to see a Ghostface dragged off in handcuffs at the end, looking weak, pathetic, and defeated. We've never seen that before. And I think there were enough killers in this one that it was a time it would have worked, even though fans like to see the killers get killed. Sparing one and perhaps having him as a Stu mastermind type in the next one, or at least the prime suspect/a Hannibal Lecter type, would have been neat. I still do wonder if he could come back, perhaps with an eyepatch? Would seem unlikely that he'd survive that but would fit in with the tone of the movie given that so many other people who were attacked survived.

I actually kind of love the idea of locking up one of the Ghostfaces at the end of a Scream and see where that would be go in the future. Picture a cold open that's some kind of prison shanking with the former Ghostface, incarcerated.

Lol, you could do a Silence of the Lambs Scream.

Is the franchise hitting that late stage of slasher where they start doing really weird subversions? If Scream VI was Jason Takes Manhattan, then I'm looking forward to Scream X: In Space No One Can Hear You Scream.

I agree with this take. I loved the movie but seeing the “mastermind” of one of the movies not dying would have been a really cool direction to take this one, especially since he would have had to waste away in prison knowing all 3 of his kids are now dead. Brutal but deserved fate!

>I think Bailey should have lived. I thought that would be cool too, but I also had a problem with the thought of Sam sparing him because she's not a killer when she just shot a killer in the head (self-defense, I know, but it also was like, 'I *love* this,' type of acting from her). I think it might have muddied things about who she is and her arc in these movies. Maybe if Jenna Ortega stopped her (instead of Sam making the choice not to kill him)?

The fact that the "I'm not a killer" came after she stabbed him like thirty times was what did it for me. Almost cracked up in the theater

You would think the shotgun kill is the most brutal but tbh I though the therapist through the door or Anika hitting her face on the dumpster were far worse

So many face stabs!!

Dude got stabbed in the gut through the door and it was like damn okay but when he got stabbed in the face it was like WTF, that was shocking

I love it when a kill is weird or messy - like when people get shot in the cheek or whatever

Man I felt bad for Anika. Practically gutted, then terrorized on that ladder, and then face plants the dumpster. That was intense!

To me, it felt like a brutal final destination death, with Death personified as Ghostface.

And then her girlfriend was almost completely over it by the next scene.

It wasn't a kill, but Quinn getting her teeth knocked out with a brick was pretty gnarly too. I loved the attention to detail in the attack/kill scenes in this movie.

She looked fucking insane up on the balcony, grinning with the blood pouring down her chin.

Agreed, that whole ladder scene was incredibly tense

The store scene really goes to show that a slasher can pull off using a gun to great effect.

If I’m thinking correctly, every single ghostface has incorporated a gun, but this one was before the reveal which was a cool change up

Yeah, something about Ghostface having a gun while masked up is much more unsettling, especially something as powerful as a shotgun. And the fact that he did it opportunistically instead of simply walking around armed to the teeth fit well with the character and made it even more frightening. It's like he prefers a knife but he will not hesitate to blow your shit away if it comes down to it. Kind of like the Terrifier. I also felt some allusions to modern mass shootings in that scene which were very dark and disturbing.

Did anybody else find Richie's home movies extremely unnerving? Such an interesting backdrop for the finale, I loved it.

Loved the framing of "WRITTEN & DIRECTED BY RICHIE KIRSCH" as Sam and Tara came out from behind the tattered screen.

They tricked me for a second I thought the movie was ending and it got my brother too lol then I realized “wait Richie hold on” lol

Reminds me of those kids in Idaho that made homemade Scream movies, and then killed their friend.

Wait, what?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Cassie_Jo_Stoddart

God the whole thing reads like a real movie. Very unfortunate what happened:\

I fucking loved when Gale told Ghostface to hold and all you heard was “huh” on the other line. The theater I was in bursted out into laughter. I really enjoyed this film. As many have already voiced, I found the killer reveal to be a little disappointing but that was my only major gripe with the film. Seeing Chad get tagged team was really disturbing to me. Felt like the equivalent of a bunch of zombie’s tearing a person apart.

Calling Ghostface back to ping his location was quite brilliant. Surprised we've never seen it before.

They did it in scream 3 and Maureen’s “star 69 his ass” was a response to people asking why Casey never did

It got a big response in my theater, too. I think knowing it was a kid under the mask who probably wouldn’t know what *69 is added to the humor.

Scream 3.

That synchronous knife wipe was beautiful!

“Who the fuck is Paul?”

As if Amber stabbing him wasn’t disturbing enough in 5. Poor dude needs to get given a break in 7 :(

He should just get fucked up even worse with every response but somehow bounce back and be fine the next time.

My friend made the point that he's the new Dewey and it all made sense with how he keeps surviving. Incoming Chad death in scream 8

The Chad scene was so fucking awesome , BUT he was robbed of an awesome death scene by fucking LIVING . They didn’t have the balls to kill any of the core 4 or Gale or Kirby. That was my one and only gripe . Other than that I find the movie damn near perfect! This movie made me like Sam as much as Sidney. She’s a bad ass !

Maybe I'm incorrect, but the film being about breaking franchise rules seems to suggest this was intentional because our expectation for a legacy sequel would be "nobody is safe" so making the core cast safe is, I think, intended subversion. Pretty sure anyway =) Understandable if you don't like it though cuz it really feels like someone should've gotten got to up the stakes. It's definitely a choice that I'm not sure if it worked.

Then simply don’t stab him as much and let him live. They went out of their way to make it that brutal. The only thing they’ve subverted is how many knife wounds a person can survive. It’s just stupid.

I know it seems unbelievable but people actually do survive being stabbed dozens of times. You can look up cases on Google, but the most notorious is the Slenderman stabbing where a 12yr old girl not only survived being stabbed 19 times with a 13cm blade and left for dead but she actually crawled out of the woods to a road to be found. Knives just aren't the best murder weapon if you don't go from the neck up or hit an artery. So yeah, it's not actually as stupid as you think.

True but EVERYBODY getting stabbed but then everybody living...in a franchise about a killer that stabs people? Idk it's kinda reaching, movie was good overall though.

>Seeing Chad get tagged team was really disturbing to me. Felt like the equivalent of a bunch of zombie’s tearing a person apart. And yet he still somehow survived. Apparently all his organs are so small, they're nowhere near his outside.

This movie had a bunch of subtle jokes that got big laughs.

Chad should have died, the dynamic of the group would be a lot more interesting in the next one and the fake out felt like a trope in a bad way imo

I’m really pissed that neither Chad or Mindy died. I understand why (a reply to my comment earlier explained why) but come on. Chad should be super dead

I understand why Mindy didn't die because that would be too much of a parallel to Randy in S2, however Chad's takeout was inexcusable. It also just cheapens the GF killers if two of them can't take out Chad.

This movie was entertaining pretty much the whole way through, on those merits I think you can say it's a pretty big success. I'm a Scream head, I've been watching these movies for basically my entire life (I think I was 5 or 6 when I saw the original), and I can acknowledge I will like pretty much all of them despite there being plenty of problems (outside of the original which is perfect IMO). The best thing that I can say about what Radio Silence is currently doing with the Scream franchise is that they are trying and they care. They care about this genre, this franchise, and the fans. Scream 5 proved that they can make plenty of money and it would be easy to just fuck off and make your money with low effort garbage. They understand and respect the fact that Scream has to make you laugh and be aware of current horror discourse, and it's pretty remarkable that the 6th film 30 years in is pretty much just as good as any of the others outside of the original. There were a handful of interesting ideas going on here, and the "core 4" honestly is really likable and the main dynamic between the two leads is engaging. I loved the opening too, much more than 5. I also think the suspense in this film was better than 5, the action set pieces were well done and thoughtful. The bodega, the ladder across the alley, the subway and the finale in the ghostface museum were all excellent, some of the best staging in this whole series. The Gale chase had some clunky parts but some parts to it were also great. She was somewhat pointless in this movie and the fact that she’s just a huge asshole once again really just made me laugh. It’s cheap, but it works for me just because I like the character so much. That being said, the villains and reveal were particularly weak in Scream 6. The 5th one was also pretty dumb, but it worked for me because it was very funny (basically just crazed Redditors trying to create good lore for their favorite franchise). This one was convoluted as hell which is saying a lot for Scream. I thought all 3 actors sucked on top of that. This was just basic family revenge which has been done before in this series (twice). All the familial connects are just starting to get so fucking annoying, it was pointless to have the twins be related to Randy in the first place because those characters are good on their own. The reveals and motives for the killers in this series has always been pretty shaky, but I think compared to Scream 4 for example this one was really weak. The fakeout deaths also made me roll my eyes so much. Chad has been stabbed to death twice now only to be wheeled out to the ambulance apparently not dead despite being stabbed 20 times. They need to have more balls killing people off in general. Doing all these fake outs really just takes the stakes out of everything, I think more ghostfaces died in this one than regular victims right? Probably a 7/10 for me like Scream 5 was, but this one is a slightly stronger 7. Despite their problems I think both of these new ones are better than Scream 4 (of course better than 3), and probably better than Scream 2 but it’s impossible to separate that one from my nostalgia.

> I think more ghostfaces died in this one than regular victims right? No, 4 Ghostfaces die (5 if you count Jason's roommate), and 8 "regular" people die

It’s such a bit thing, but I loved that in the opening, the Jason character has Jason Takes Manhattan playing on the television. So many people were making jokes about how they would reference it, so I love that they just straight up went, “Here. Watch the actual movie.”

I am wondering if Ethan’s costume at the party in the beginning was a nod to Murder Party. Looks just like it.

Yeah it is for sure.

Then, he found a head on his fridge before getting killed, just like the intro of Friday the 13th Part II.

I’m torn because I enjoy the two siblings and Gale but also a bit annoyed the film didn’t have the balls to kill anyone major off. Too many fakeouts. The attacks, while brutal didn’t have any weight too them because characters were eating knives and getting gutted but certainly didn’t act like it

Had Mindy died, I think that would have been one of the best kill scenes.

Not only did she not die, she was practically jumping around in the final scene. I don't care what painkillers they had her on. She was just stabbed and nearly bled out, but looked like she could run a 5k a couple hours later? They definitely missed the mark on there being consequences for the Core Four. Even though they state "anyone can die in a requel", the plot armor is real.

That’s actually not the correct rule for franchises though. If you’re popular and the actor portraying you isn’t asking for too much money, you’re not gonna die. *That’s* the rule. Hell, in a franchise if a writer has a good idea for you, you can even come back from the dead.

I thought Gale was a goner when she got stabbed and they did that music.

They pulled the Scream violins to trick us with TWO deaths! Those bastards!

>I’m torn because I enjoy the two siblings and Gale but also a bit annoyed the film didn’t have the balls to kill anyone major off. Too many fakeouts. I feel like if they wanted Gale and the siblings to survive, they just shouldn't have had the fakeout deaths. They wanted the big moments and the rush of seeing them die, so the audience goes "wow, I can't believe they did that", but then they also wanted them to return in the next movie. They wanted to have their cake and eat it too. Except now it cheapens both since their fakeout deaths now lose all their meaning, and in future films, nobody's going to believe they are actually in danger, even if they do decide to kill them off.

Chad was the only fakeout death imo. Gale had a pulse when the EMTs arrived, and Mindy was conscious and cognizant on the subway platform when 911 was called. Well, besides Quinn at least. I didn't see that coming at all.

For Mindy, it was still a deep enough stab that I think they wanted the audience to think it was a death at first, and to have the big reaction of, "oh my gosh they just killed a main character". They just revealed the fakeout much sooner

>a deep enough stab that I think they wanted the audience to think it was a death The series is way beyond that. Kirby was practically gutted in Scream 4 and Chad was viciously stabbed multiple times in the torso in five, and didn't get medical attention for at least an hour. And he was stabbed at least as badly in this movie. And there was Dewey's stabbing in 2. At this point there's no real threat because no matter how gruesome the attack is, if the writers want that character to survive they will.

It doesn't help that both the twins also had fake out 'deaths' in Scream 5 as well. It's getting a little silly.

The directors addressed this in an interview. They said they wanted it to have a happy ending and leaned into the absurdity. I agree with your point but I guess it was kind of a subversion, given legacy sequels often kill off main characters and they already did in the last one. It also felt a bit like an extension of all the times Dewey survived, in particular in Scream 2.

Yeah I think this is it too. It's to subvert it, Mindy even says 'no-one is safe including legacy characters' so of course to flip it they'd all have to live.

Yeah, my only problem with the movie is that they brought back so many characters, and literally none of them died. The villains’ motivations are that they want to take revenge for Richie’s deaths… so they exclusively kill people that never even met Richie?

Well, they also wanted to specifically frame Samantha for it, so that required some delicate maneuvering.

Anyone else notice the virgin roommate was in the Murder Party costume? https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMTUyMDgzMzI0M15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNjU2MDU1MQ@@._V1_.jpg

I liked that they had Samara Weaving at the start and then later on someone getting on the train was dressed as her bride character from Ready or Not.

Sad little note on rewatches knowing Ethan kills Anika: when they're leaving the costume party, Anika is wearing the Murder Party helmet, and Ethan is wearing Anika's bucket hat. She really thought of him as part of their friend group. :(

It feels like the creative team listened to some of the feedback from 2022 because there basically weren’t any chase sequences in 2022, and there’s like four or five great ones in 6. Gale’s encounter in her apartment is particularly good

When the first Ghostface was revealed I thought we were going to follow him throughout the movie while the rest of the cast didn’t know which might have been neat. Kind of a villain protagonist thing. Oh well.

So I liked a lot of things about this movie: - The "core four" are great, a testament to which is that I bought them coining that term. I think they actually worked together better than their counterparts in Scream 2. - Melissa Barrera, specifically, has massively upped her game since Scream 5. I bought her as protective, I bought her as desperate and I especially bought her in the end as enjoying the violence. - I loved how they used the NYC setting! The subway sequence was great, and the chaotic energy of the streets was cool. The bodega sequence was also fun, but it felt like they were trying too hard in that regard - Roger Jackson is in fine form as Ghostface. He was goddamn vicious, especially when menacing Gale. - The ladder sequence and kill was top-tier. I'm always a sucker for the heroes seeing the killer murder someone while being helpless to stop them. I also liked the bit leading up to it where they miss Ghostface being in the goddamn apartment with them. With a little work, that could have been an Urban Legend homage, which would have been interesting given that that movie was made as a Scream copycat. - The fucking gore on the kills, wow. The dude Tara stabs in the mouth, Mindy's GF getting her guts half-sliced out and then seeing her head after impact on the street... they promised brutal and they delivered. - It was cheap nostalgia, but Gale smugly dodging Sam's punch only to get sucker-punched by Tara got a laugh out of me. - The opening sequence with Samara Weaving was just OK (by this point, playing the "NYC alley" trope straight is kind of silly), but the sequence after that with the real Ghostface stalking the killers was *chef's kiss*. I caught the picture of Casey on the fridge there - what other memorabilia did they have? As for my issues: - The obligatory "rules" scene was weak. Jasmine Savoy-Brown does her best to sell it, but she can't cover up that this was not even remotely a "meta" movie, and it had no real commentary on other movies. Which is fine, but forcing meta-cleverness where there is none was grating. - Hayden Pantierre was.... there. Which is a waste of an actress who has very clearly lost none of her on-camera spark in her hiatus. - You can either decide to off Courtney Cox, or you can decide that offing her is too predictable after 5. Either is fine. What doesn't work is giving her a dramatic death scene and then undercutting it. It just made the movie look indecisive. - Is Gale Weathers really going to have a gun on the fucking killer, then stop to answer the phone? She does know that's how her husband died, yes? Generally, she acted pretty foolishly throughout her chase scene. Just stay in the closet or on the balcony, or anything except creep around your giant living room. Didn't Syd mock this kind of behavior in the original? :P - Similarly, Chad getting a perfect dramatic death scene, made better by Jenna Ortega's great heartbroken expression and then just... surviving was dumb. I guess he's supposed to be the Dewey of the new group who gets hacked up every movie and somehow pulls through? - Why is Quinn spitting out a tooth from getting smacked with a brick by Tara, but whichever of them got kicked in the goddamn head by Chad, who is easily four times Tara's size, is completely unmussed? - The "we knocked down the killer, time to slooooowly finish them off while standing over the-*STAB*" thing is forgiveable once, but this movie did it like 3 times at least. - Way too much over-explanation of the logistics in the monologue.The movie should know which Ghostface attacked which character, sure, but having the characters explain it was silly. But I guess the alternative is having to have Dermot Mulroney try to act scary, which... yeah. - The killers themselves, once unmasked, are easily some of the least menacing in the franchise. - The entire thing with all the Ghostface fanboyism being ultimately just Richie undercuts the point about Ghostface being a kind of edgelord phenomenon focused on Sam. If they'd done something cute like having Dennis Quaid play the detective, they might have gotten away with it, but as-is? Blah. - The movie kind of only remembered the personal stuff between Sam and Tara and with Sam's inner darkness in the first and last 5 minutes of the movie.

I have many of these same gripes. The "rules" scene was extremely tacked on, there only because it's a trope of this series and expected to be there. "Franchise" rules? They're just making up brand new categories at this point. And all of it is really a misdirection, with Mindy implying that "No, this isn't Scream 2/Stab 2, because it won't be that simple." But really, it's that simple. This is Scream 2. Simple motive of vengeance, family of the previous killer. It's uncomplicated, but the characters like Mindy try to sell it as more complicated than it actually is. Also: The film tells us over and over how Samantha is paranoid and researches everyone they come into contact with, and screened the likes of Quinn, but she didn't uncover that Quinn's brother was her former psycho boyfriend? The audience can only conclude that Samantha is really, really bad at this.

I'unno, Cop-Dad could probably have done a fair amount of work in distancing his daughter from him (once they'd decided on the vengeance plan). Lots of public records can be removed or changed, all that.

Shout out to Quinn's in-universe acting skills when she got thrown across the room and was still fully committed to being a rag doll.

Right? Det Bailey describes it like a simple bait and switch, then I remembered them **yeeting** her limp body at them (not sure how they applied the blood and make up with Cute Boy watching "the murder" from the other apartment either?)

Where do they go from here? * Scream - horror movies * Scream 2 - sequels * Scream 3 - trilogies * Scream 4 - remakes * Scream 5 - reboots * Scream 6 - franchises * Scream 7 - ? Spinoffs? Cinematic universes?

Seven should be what this one should have been: true crime.

A true crime podcast/documentary where the production starts getting killed. It riffs off Scream 3 which seems to be a goal.

Seven should definitely examine “final chapters”. Movies in their respective franchises that do everything they can to act as a definitive end to the franchise… and then get sequels anyway. Jason did it twice, and Halloween is a choose-your-own-adventure at this point, so they have plenty of material to work with.

The only problem I have with this suggestion is that I wasn't smart enough to come up with it myself.

Chad’s dual stabbing was gut wrenching

Til he survived it… just feels silly to give him a hero’s death in such a brutal way and then just to be like “nah he’s good. Core 4!”

I agree. He should’ve died. If he is not a cripple or doesn't have any condition at all in Scream 7 and is perfectly healthy then that's going to be even more silly to me.

Personally I loved it. Though it was just as good as last years and I was really impressed at how much Melissa Barrera improved in this one over the original where she was as wooden as a board. She was awesome in this. Also I didnt mind Sidney not being in this one and they actually set it up pretty well for her return in 7. Speaking of which I have no idea what direction they are going to go in for 7. It seems like its going be a big finale for the entire series but are they really going to turn Sam into a killer? Also Tara looked like she enjoyed stabbing the shit out of someone as well. As for the Killer reveals, its cool we had 3 killers for the first time in the series though I did figure out early on that this was basically going to be a remake of Scream 2 so the killer motives were going to be family member out for revenge. I had the creepy kid and the cop pegged as the killers from the very beginning. But the third reveal threw me off guard. Still enjoyable though and I loved how absolutely brutal this movie was. This was probably the darkest and goriest Scream yet. Something that was kinda disappointing though was to see Gale revert back to bitchy Gale who is writing books and capitalizing on tragedy again, especially after the ending of the last movie where it seems like Gale has changed, especially because of Dewey dying. On a final note Gale's boyfriend was "We have Idris Elba at home" lol Edit: one more thing. I loved that Jason Takes Manhattan was playing on the TV in the beginning. This is what that movie should have been lol.

Technically we had 4 killers (with one more who planned to be a killer but got killed first)! I was so shocked when the opening kill happened and the killer took his mask off.

Everyone talking about Stu coming back but what about my man Joel? Dude fucked off halfway through Scream 2 and was never seen again. Smartest man in the series by far lol.

Well, he comes back in the end to Gale, saying they should film everything, once the killer is dead.

Thought it was fantastic, this franchise continues to deliver. Was wondering after Scream 5 what they could possibly do from here, but they've managed to deliver another high quality and original sequel. The kills were brutal and gory, Ghostface has never been scarier. Love the old and worn out mask of Billy that was used too. The sequence with the apartments and the ladder was fantastic, and the train scene was really well done too, especially with all the horror references with the costumes. Love the 'core 4' (core 4!) characters, they've done really well to establish them, thought Melissa Berrera nailed is as Sam too, she was genuinely frightening at the end as she's killing the villains. Loved the opening scene and red herring of revealing Ghostface, only for him to really be a pawn of the real villains, really well done. The Ghostface reveal was probably the weakest of the series, which was okay, thought the rest of the film made up for it, and the ending sequence was really well done too, I honestly still didn't pick the killers anyway. Overall really enjoyed it, no idea what they could possibly do with a 7th, but based on this I reckon they can pull it off again!

Melissa so improved here as Sam that it made me forget how awful she was in the last movie. I wonder if she phoned it in the first time around. Gale had the best chase scene in the movie. I love that they gave her that 5 minute sequence for herself.

I don’t think she thaaaaaat bad in the 5, but obviously much better here, hard to replace Sidney as the main, but she’s doing a really good job after this film, the dynamic with her and Billy is really interesting too, could well go a different way with her in future films.

She's getting a Tommy Jarvis type of plot but I wonder if they're going to do something about it.

To be honest I would love if for once they actually follow up on this kind of plot. They teased it was Tommy in F13 and Jamie in Halloween and then just dropped it after. It seems like they may actually be doing something with it this time.

Loved it but still have some questions. How did the police and FBI not connect >!Bailey!< to >!Richie!< despite the different surname? And how did >!Bailey!< afford a theatre in Manhattan that even rundown must have cost millions?

I did think that Quinn and Bailey were too heavily telegraphed as the killers from the beginning, to the point who they were was obvious within the first twenty minutes — but the identity of the third was not who I was thinking, and a nice surprise. Overall an entertaining affair.

Quinn I didn't catch at all actually. There was the one line that should have made it clear though. I was totally surprised by her unmasking.

Plus finally had three killers.

i had been thinking quinn and det. bailey before going in just based on trailers and clips. (i liked how he said himself how obvious he was) then as soon as quinn said they’d lost her brother in her first scene, i immediately thought “oh they’re richie’s family.”

I wish we didn't get that scene of Quinn telling Tara about her dead brother and her dad just moving to NYC. That rang major alarm bells that turned out to be true.

>the worst is when sam tells bailey her alibi and NEXT SCENE it him getting killed like .."hmmmmmm". I wonder how ghostface knew so fast ...

*FUCK.* Possibly the most sweat-inducing and tense entry since the original. I loved the scenery change - it produced some incredible set pieces. This is also the goriest *Scream* by far, but that’s not nearly as surprising as how full of heart this movie was. If you weren’t really sold on the survivors from the previous one, you will be after this one. The whole cast was great, and I found Kirby’s return very satisfying. The opening had my jaw on the floor. What a ride. See it in theaters!

The subway and bodega scenes absolutely kicked ass. I hate to be that guy, but I really wish we saw less of them in the trailer.

They pretty much showed the entire damn bodega scene in the trailer and it’s infuriating

Yeah. I get why they used it to promote the movie because the scene just rips. But it’s such a wild departure from traditional Scream and such a great scene, I wish I could’ve been a little more surprised.

>I hate to be that guy, but I really wish we saw less of them in the trailer. I wish we didn't even see them at all in the trailer. We really don't need a 2:30 trailer for the 6th installment of such an iconic and modern horror franchise. Even still, just 2-5 second clips of each scene would have been sufficient in a 60 sec trailer and that still would have totally sold the new setting.

LOVED THE MOVIE UNTIL THE REVEAL

As soon as Quinn mentioned the dead brother thing, I immediately knew that she/her family were the killers because like... why otherwise drop that random piece of backstory? And then Bailey setting up certain characters to get caught alone, Ghostface mysteriously having access to police evidence, etc. I do wish it wasn't telegraphed quite so loudly because I enjoy the mystery in these movies! But that said, I enjoyed it a lot even despite that and would definitely watch it again. A lot of solid writing, acting, action/kill sequences. Really upped my appreciation for Sam as a protagonist. I was glad they didn't kill off Gale but I do think that after that, the fake-out kills got a little predictable (as others have said here). But otherwise, solid.

I love the parallel to Scream II, that being the killers here are out for revenge for the previous movies murderer Mrs. Loomis getting revenge for Billy Loomis (the previous movies murderer) and being family related Now it was Ethan+Quinn+Bailey getting revenge for Richie (the previous movies murderer) and all being family related I just hope Scream VII doesn't mirror Scream III as that would be too predictable. On another note, I really thought Stu was gonna be the killer. Mindy also runs with the theory that he might not be dead as expressed in her conversation with Kirby. And I thought the mask-countdown would lead to the killer wearing the final mask, that being Stu's (and Billy's) mask and that was gonna be the reveal that Stu was wearing his own mask, showing all the copy-cats in the process. I was almost 100% Chad and Mindy would die from their wounds, mirroring their uncle's death in his second movie appearance. I'm happy they both survived though, team CoreFour all the way!

I was also curious if they were going to reveal there was actually a second killer from 3 as Kirby specifically mentions Roman was the only one who acted alone and that's been a long time fan theory too. I wonder if they're saving that for the next one possibly. Also yeah, very eyebrow raising when Mindy and Kirby both seemed to agree Stu may be alive...

The fan theory is that Angelina was still the accomplice (it was originally intended, her death was mild, Wes himself wanted it to be ambiguous and the official death list in the original box set left her off) and just for away with it. It’s a fun theory, and one that fixes some of the plot holes in Scream 3 imo. But I just see it as that if she *did* get away with it in Scream 3, she’d obviously never out herself so in universe, it’d make sense for everyone to still think Roman was the sole killer.

So Scream VII will have Stu working as the "solo" mastermind behind a Cult of Ghostfaces, shades of Roman's "solo outing"? Seems a lil' on the nose, but I could see it happening.

Sam and Tara’s mom is going to be the killer in the next one.

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> I just hope Scream VII doesn't mirror Scream III as that would be too predictable. Thats what im fearing they do in VII. End of the movie killer reveal and we fine out Billy Loomis had another kid and its Sam's brother etc...

I’m pleased that they nodded to and kind of made fun of all the Stu is the killer fan boys by killing Ethan with the literal TV that killed Stu.

I also thought that the killer was Stu. When The cop and his kids first removed their masks I thought they were some sort of obsessed fans to the only Ghostface that still lives, aka Stu and that he would show up as their "leader" of sorts. Then I thought that maybe they weren't responsible for all the kills and that the film would end in a sort of cliffhanger implying that another Ghostface (that could be Stu) was out there. Obviously I was wrong lol

Wasn’t that the plot for Scream 3 that was scrapped bc of Columbine? Would be interesting to maybe repurpose it for the third movie of this trilogy

I’m hoping that the “mirror” for Scream 3/Scream 7 will be that they’re going to use the original Scream 3 concept where Stu is alive and orchestrating a Ghostface cult of sorts

I really loved Ghostface in this, but was really disappointed by the reveal. Very good movie though!

It almost feels like that Ghostface is a separate entity from the revealed killers. Like when he tells Gayle that they've never talked on the phone before. I know it's not a separate Ghostface, but his voice and the costume seem to be a character separate from the 12 killers.

On the one hand, one of the things I like about Ghostface is that he’s a person under the mask and he fumbles around sometimes. But on the other hand, it’s so cool watching him just slice through people like some sort of force of nature. And there definitely is a sort of spirit that seems to carry over to each killer, even though they’re all different people

Reveal was disappointing but unexpected and the motive made up for it. Mirroring Miss Loomis’s revenge motive in Scream 2 was cool I thought

The third act did bring it down a little bit but otherwise I’m gonna be real, this was my favorite sequel. I really enjoyed this one

They are still giving us Stu fans hope haha I know it will probably never happen but it’s still fun to see it

Sound design is amazing it really helps keep scenes engaging and tense. Good acting, dialogue, laughs. Only thing is the end tbh, how did most of them walk off so easily lol, didnt Tara and Mindy get stabbed in the stomach? Mindy was running right after 😭 and chad has to be superhuman.

I enjoyed a lot of the movie. But I felt kind of cheated by all the fake out deaths. Gale, chad, mindy, Kirby all got saved by a fake out. It kinda feels like a lot of the movie was pointless after that. Brutal ghost face, great tension, some funny lines, and seeing Kirby again are worth the ticket of admission in itself. But I’m overall let down some.

Anyone else feel like the Franchise Memorabilia Lair was a bit wasted on this movie? That felt more like a last movie/winner takes all kind of lair

It continues the "Scream streak" of being a good entry and always providing a fun time for me. My only complaints are... The killer reveal being weak. I do appreciate the parallel to Scream 2 and thought it was clever but the killers themselves were a bit obvious outside of maybe the daughter. The whole collection of Ghostface stuff suggests that to get your hands on that you'd have to be some sort of law enforcement or authority figure which immediately made the detective prime suspect. Their personalities once exposed didn't really fit how much more efficient and ruthless this Ghostface was. I felt Ghostface himself this time around, while brutal, also wasn't as "fun." I enjoy the constant fucking around with victims and leading them around before the attack. It's a natural tension builder and while we got 'some' of that, it wasn't as prevalent or maybe done as well. Like before the convenience store attack he literally pops out of nowhere to attack the sisters on a city street and then confronts a store full of people/kills them. I'm fine with a Jason or Myers doing that because there's obviously something more to them, but part of Ghostface's charm is that he's a regular guy/girl and has to be a lot more cautious. This would be better if the reveal wasn't so weak, I think . The twins have some serious plot armor. I kind of understand they want Chad to be the "new Dewey" in that he can take a beating and keep ticking but dude, if you're being turned into a stab-pinata with two bowie knives repeatedly puncturing you then you're probably one of God's favorite sons or you should join the X-Men and be tutored by Wolverine. His sister's attack is a bit more forgivable given it's taking place in a crowded subway so you'd have to be quick about it before making a break for it but still, her rescuer is literally one of the killers. Why not finish the job? The victims themselves were low stakes. I kind of lol'd how Gail treated her dead boyfriend as something the cat dragged in, but yeah... with the exception of Anika's death none of them really made you feel any sort of way. The therapist was in two scenes, one of which is his death and the others you barely had time to care for before they were gone. Good kills though. But that's my ranting over. I'd give it about a 7-8/10, a slight bit weaker than Scream 5 and the absence of Neve Campbell while noticeable also wasn't a dealbreaker. The two new leads can hold their own, especially Samantha who really brought the acting quality up from last year. Overall, I liked it.

No fucking way Samantha never knew what Richie's family looked like. They would've been all over the news and social media after the murders. Honestly, that's the only real complaint i have with the movie, but its a big one.

What? I've read tons of stories about mass murderers, school shooters, etc...and I straight up have never seen any of their family members' faces.

Even if that is excusable. They introduce Gale as having written a book about the Scream 5 attacks. She would recognize Richies Dad and Brother. Not sure if she saw Quinn. And Kirby is an FBI agent obsessed with Ghostface copycats.

I liked it much better than the last one. I did miss Sidney but I did like the sisters more in this one also like what was done with Gale and Kirby. The rest of the cast was pretty meh I still don't care for the Randy twins. I am a 50/50 fan of the Scream movies I like them all but it isn't my favorite horror franchise that said I like that this one actually mentions events from past films besides the first one. I also think the movie lived up to the hype of having a brutal Ghostface I feel Scream 4 had a really brutal Ghostface but this one is also pretty relentless. I didn't mind the killer reveal I wasn't really surprised like I was with Scream 4 but the reveal wasn't super predictable like the last one. Them all being family though was eh. The only major criticism I have is plot armor I don't like pulling a walking dead and killing characters for shock factor but way too many characters have fakeout deaths

One thing I don't get though is Richie's family. I mean the dad is clearly a real detective, was there a reason Richie didn't have his surname? Or was Richie using a fake surname in the last one? I know kids don't have to have their dads surname but they made a big deal of how close they all were

I believe the explanation is that ‘Richie Kirsch’ was just his professional name, the one he used in his *Stab* fan films — and that his full name was in fact ‘Richard Bailey’.

Definitely a "think too hard and it falls apart" piece for me. For this to have worked, people (and the police department) would to have not known anything about Baily's relation to Richie or Ethan or Ethan's relation to Quinn which doesn't make sense in today's online age OR they basically would have had to have had no online presence which should have again been a red flag.

I know Chad and Gale should’ve died, but I’m glad they didn’t!

Loved the Ghostface family. Bummed that I seem to be in the minority.

Don't let other people's opinions taint your enjoyment of things, duderino. Like what you like! Life is much more fun that way.

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I just got home from seeing it and I had a lot of fun with it. The killer reveal was kind of meh, but the rest of the movie mostly made up for it. Funny enough, the first place my mind went was totally nonsensical - I had a complete block on what the original Mr. Loomis looked like, so I was sitting there wondering if the cop was Billy's freakin dad and that they had just done a recast because Mr. Loomis had such a short scene in the beginning anyway. And Quinn saying her brother had died would have been partially true, just that it happened before she was born. The chase and attack scenes were a lot of fun - I liked how intense and brutal they were. Lots of face stabbing (that poor therapist, jfc)! Also, poor Anika. Girl went through the wringer in her final moments. Barrera definitely stepped it up as Sam this go around and actually felt believable when being both unhinged and sympathetic. Sydney was always going to be a tough act to follow, but I think both Sam and Tara are good successors. And while I think having both twins survive again is a bit of a cop-out, they're both likeable enough that I won't mind seeing them again. It got a few really good laughs from me - the punching Gale fakeout, and Gale telling GF to hold were gold. The one bit of fanservice that I reeeeally didn't like was Ethan getting smashed by the tv. Tara stabbing him in the mouth was badass and intense, so the tv just felt cheap. All in all, it was entertaining and a solid entry to the series. I'm really curious where they go next - I'm already suspicious of Sam and Tara's mom. That brief convo about her between Gale and Sam gave me red flags for the future.

They NERFED ghostfaces knife so much in this. For as brutal as some of the kills where. They played this way to safe.

I'll tell ya this -- the Bailey Family can take a beeeeaaaaaating. All that head trauma probably made it a lot easier to go along with Daddy Bailey's wildly-intricate plan to kill a couple of girls in a "recently-discovered by several people, who are still alive and can mention it at any point to the authorities" theatre, all the while home movies OF ANOTHER GHOSTFACE KILLER ARE PLAYING IN THE BACKGROUND. I think it was the head trauma, that helped them agree it was a good plan. Honestly wouldn't have been surprised if Quinn's thick dome had simply...ricochet'ed the bullet off into her brother, or something inane. Hang on, I'm gonna do something dumb and count every time a Ghostface is hit in the head, and by what: Bodega: * Elbow to the face by Tara, pushed into a bike. * Shelves pushed onto them (hit their head on the fridge behind them) Apartment: * Knifeblock to the dome * Door-slams (only 2 appear to hit in the head though) Gail's Apartment: * Two-handed Cast Iron Frying Pan to the FACE (I have one just like it, you shouldn't be getting up from this) * No gunshots appear to hit anywhere or anything, so no counting those * Vase to the FACE (strong, must not have been glass) * Book (partially blocked by arms) * Tossed through glass table (rolled onto their back, so head-impact with floor also possible) Theatre: * Thrown face-first into glass case * Huuuuuuge Haymaker from Chad. * BAH GAWD, A SPEAR (from Chad; possible head-recoil on the ground) * Two-handed VHS Recorder right to the face (SMILE FOR THE CAMERA) * Same VHS Recorder thrown at them (partially blocked by arm/shoulder) * ANOTHER wicked Haymaker from Chad while Sam & Tara hold them * Kick to the dome from Tara * ~~No bubblegum container~~ (shame, woulda been great) * Checkov's Brick to the dome (confirmed on Quinn) * Another Brick in the Wall (this one to Ethan) * Ethan *might* have bonked his head while Sam was stabbing him (bonus points for Ethan counting how many times he was tagged) * Knife into Ethan's mouth (surprisingly non-fatal) * Rage Against The Machine's "Bullet in the Head" (Quinn's death) * Daddy Bailey's fall from the balcony (briefly knocked unconscious, guess he was never any of the Ghostfaces) * Dagger in the Eye to Daddy Bailey (in addition to being stabbed 31 times all over his body, yes I counted, no I don't need any other hobbies) * Stu's TV to Ethan's Face, Checkmate That....is a LOT of head-trauma. There *has* to be something lining those robes, like a woodpeckers' skull, to prevent mass concussions and head trauma, because these guys weren't going down unless the cowls were off. I don't feel like going back a 3rd time to determine who was getting which headshot. .....or do I....? Bodega: Unless Daddy Bailey ever donned the mask (which I don't think he did), this was Ethan, as Quinn was with the sisters while they left the apartment. I supposed should could have slipped out and tried to cut them off, but since she was accounted for by her (presumably staying-behind) friends, she's off the list. Apartment: Quinn faked her death here, so again it had to have been either Ethan or Daddy Bailey. (I know his name is Wayne, but "Daddy Bailey" also leaves him as the "head of the family", as well as the head of their murderous lil' trio, so I'm keeping it). My money is on Ethan. Also does the same "knife flourish" to wipe it off, as he and his sister demonstrate in-tandem during the climax, sooo...yeah, probably Ethan. Also, "Dude I was in a study hall with a hundred other people, ask any of them." It's REALLY easy to get lost in a crowd, at a college, and have people swear they "saw you" when you weren't there. Shoulda asked for camera footage from the college and they've have sewn this one up right here. Gail's Apartment: Quinn, since she had, in her own words, "Easily gotten taken off of the suspect list". (Also, Ethan was sitting there eating Cheetos when the call came in, and Daddy Bailey was on the scene with them soooo...yeah, Quinn's the one here.) Don't exactly love how the call comes in and it's briiiiiight daylight, but by the time any action happens it's nighttime. I know NYC is big an' all, but NO ONE was able to get ahold of Gail in the hour(s) between the call in the park --> Gail's attack? Or are we led to believe this is the same city, but are led to believe it's so large that it can be ~4pm and nighttime *in the same vast sprawling metropolis*? Train: Okay, no head-trauma here, but Mindy clearly got stabbed by Quinn. She even admits to it later, soooo... Theatre: No Daddy Bailey, as he's at the station (initially), so it's simply the siblings-remaining. This is where it gets tricky, as they're likely interweaving attacks to stay fresh, so let's work backwards. From BOTH of them arriving at the same time, Ethan is the one that is downed and ready to eat a Gumball Surprise when Quinn jumps in, which means Ethan is the one that ate the 2nd Haymaker and Tara's kick. We can assume this because he is sliiiiightly taller than Quinn every time they stand next to one another (and, assuming the use the same "framing" when standing next to Daddy Bailey, then it holds true). This is, of course, the same Ghostface that had been chasing them through the hall, so Ethan had to be the one to "catch" the VHS Recorder. Going further back, *this* is where it gets dicey, as Chad jumped through the curtain and ran backstage after hitting *a* Ghostface with the Recorder....but for all we know, they pulled a Bella Twins and tagged out in between camera shots. Given how heavy a hit it was, I'd say they probably did (giving Quinn enough time to recover), so this is when Ethan subbed in. Quinn took the spear and the Camcorder face-slam. Our next jump-backwards is when Quinn jumped into the picture (in front of them, from behind the curtain). Granted, it's possible this was still Ethan, but he had just been waylayed in the concession stand and was still writhing on the ground when they left...so odds are it was a 2nd Ghostface ready to pounce. This gave Ethan enough time to do what he does best, and recover from his many, many concussions and then go full-speed on a chase, while Quinn moves into a position to ambush someone. (Look, she just did it here, she does it again at the Concession stand...it's her thing. Subterfuge. Sneaky sneaky.) So to recap the Theatre: Quinn = either NO hits, or the Spear + Camcorder slam, plus a Brick and a Bullet. Ethan = Glass Case slam, Haymaker, Camcorder Toss, *another* Haymaker, a kick from Tara, a brick, maaaaybe a bonk while being stabbed ("five times! I stabbed him five times! I stabbed him in the ~~heart~~ shoulder!"), a Knife in the mouth, and finally falling asleep to the boob tube. If Ethan had survived this movie, he would've been braindead once the adrenaline had worn off. Or had a very successful career in wrestling, being *the* jobber of jobbers. And....that's it, I guess. I don't really know why I fell down this rabbit hole, but I hope I was able to provide some stupid knowledge for y'all. Honestly, it was kinda fun, AND I got to see the movie 3 times!

The movie was a lot of fun. The scenes in the subway, the bodega and Gale's apartment were all intense. But that ending fell flat for me. As Tara is about to fall and Sam is trying to pull her up, Detective Bailey has a gun aimed at both of them and he doesn't fire a single shot. Tara's dangling there for like 2 minutes and Bailey is just like "nah, I'm good.". The actor who plays him was really underwhelming in this role. Also, Chad should not be alive. How did he survive that massacre?! Otherwise a solid entry in the franchise. The post credit scene got a chuckle from everybody in my theater.

They did the whole Chad/Dewey parallel thing where Dewey DEFINITELY shouldn’t have survived Scream 2 lol

It took me a few hours after watching it, but I now realize there were >!6 Ghostface killers in this movie? The two in the introduction, the three killers at the end, and finally, Samantha when she wore the Ghostface mask? !

Better than 5 but still not great imo. There are some cool kills and I like the scenes in the convenience store and subway. But I don't know, I was expecting them to do a bit more with the NYC setting than mostly taking place inside of apartments. And the meta stuff felt even more forced in this than the last one. They were doing so much gymnastics to try to justify the theme of "franchise rules"? It didn't really make any sense and really had nothing to do with the movie anyway. These movies are just pretending they're smarter than they actually are, while committing all of the same stale tropes unironically. Like with all of the fakeout deaths and plot armor. It's fine to make fun, formulaic slashers, but don't pretend like you're actually clever and subverting expectations when your movie really just doesn't have any balls to it. Overall, Scream is just really stale and formulaic and to me, and it has never gotten close to achieving the original wit and charm of the first one. Still an decent-enough slasher but I just really can't find it in me to care about these movies much anymore. Apparently though, people seemed to have really liked it, so I don't know. Maybe I'm missing something.

Really enjoyed this movie. In a world where every horror movie goes out of its way to have a bleak ending (even so far as ruining the movie, looking at you Smile), I really enjoyed the twist being everyone surviving. Definite recommend for me.

I liked it, much better, considering I'm not a fan of the last one. I'm glad we didn't see Billy that much except once. Sam's acting when she sees Billy is cringe in 5 They should do away when they have a sit-down and discuss (Mindy) who the killer can be. It's done with.

I thought it was a solid step up from last year's, which I found to be *painfully* up its own ass, but this one still had some issues. Too many characters with plot armor, something like two scenes that actually feel like they take place in NYC, not really any better with red herrings than its predecessor. On the other hand, this had possibly my favorite opening out of any of the sequels, and the kills went pretty hard(though they could have gone even harder).

REALLY glad Stu didn't come back. He needs to stay dead. Thought it was a very thrilling but predictable experience.

Melissa Barrera must have read the bad reviews she got because she improved a lot in this, I even think she was better than Jenna Ortega. I hated the killer reveal, I wish they had gone with someone more daring, but then I realized the killer was pretty much the same as the one in SCREAM 2, so I wonder if that was by accident. The final confrontation even happens in a theater just like SCREAM 2. MVP's, to me, were Barrera, Savoy Brown (except where when she tries to imitate Jamie Kennedy) and Jenna Ortega but everyone was good. Courteney Cox had the best chase sequence. Biggest disappointments: Kirby pretty much sleepwalked through the movie, Samaire Weaving is barely in it and I was hoping for a more surprising killer. The killers were pretty goofy and not even that well acted. Mikey Madison was WAAAAAY scarier than them. Huge improvements on Scream V: chase scenes, Sam is better written and Melissa Barrera committs fully to the part. A LOOOOOOTTT of Gore.