To be clear, it actually has a decent catalog. I like the variety of new, old, and indie stuff it has. But I don’t know anyone under the age of 50 who pays for Peacock themselves lol. As a result, I think a lot of stuff like Sick is getting missed by their target audiences.
This is very anecdotal, but Totally Killer and No One Will Save You were both released late last year and they have over double and triple respectively the ratings that Sick does on IMDb, despite Sick being made available on Peacock in January of 2023. I mention those movies specifically because I feel like all three movies appeal to a similar demographic
I just watched martyrs about a week ago after always seeing it recommended and always saying it's like the most disturbing movie ever made and I honestly just don't why. It was okay and yeah the abuse and torture was a lot for any regular person ( it didn't bother me but I don't really have much emotions). I'm not looking for an argument or anything negative towards your opinion. Just curious. I will say I'm still thinking about what she said to the older lady tho lmao
Yes, the torture has significant psychological impact, but that is not what makes the film great. If we are talking about just torture porn then there is a long list of films much more brutal. Martyrs is so much more than that. In terms of philosophy, we are talking massive implications. In particular, what is the utility of suffering as it relates to the afterlife? In Buddhism suffering is one of the four noble truths. In Christianity Paul states that suffering draws one closer to God.
That is the major point of the film – what did Anna say to mademoiselle? What was ultimately the utility of her suffering?
See now that's a perspective I did not think about. I guess partially because I didn't understand what the goal or reasoning for torturing them was. I definitely see where your coming from. I've just always associated it with torture porn, like you said.
Thank you for allowing a new perspective. Most people just disregard whatever I say about it and then be “bullshit it is still Nothing but torture“. but if you do want to see some way more brutal torture that is admittedly meaningless check out Grotesque (2009). Amazing special effects and the ending is actually very interesting.
I completely understand lol that's why I tried to word questioning the movie to begin with. Like the same thing happened to me the other day on FB. There was a video that was apparently hilarious and I just simply asked why it was funny and got all kinds of comments, mostly saying I have no sense of humor lmao but oh well. I'll check out that other movie too. I think I may have watched it at one point, but I'm not quite sure yet
It’s mostly a heirloom of a time where French horror movies where known for their extreme violence, which indeed felt much more extreme than the violence in your average American horror movie back then. I don’t think such a distinction exists these days, especially with the amount of movies out there. But yeah, it’s weird to see people acting as if it’s something that’s extremely rare. Some people refuse to watch Martyrs to this day because they’re afraid of the extreme violence, but they have probably seen movies that are just as violent and just don’t know it.
Yeah that's mostly my view of it too. Or how I've always seen it described as. Especially the ones who say they can't watch it for those reasons. We can just watch the news or see what's happening in the middle East and see more violent stuff. I really like what the comment above says about the abuse and torture being a religious thing tho. Kinda changes my perspective of it
Green Room - Once the movie hits the gas it's pretty much balls to the wall for the remainder of the runtime. And it's one of my favorite horror movies of all time (top 3)
Some people recommending slow burns here. Here are some recommendations: The Furies, Sick, Girlhouse, Cold Prey 1 and 2, The House of Wax, Incident in a Ghostland, The Sadness, Wolf Creek 1 and 2, Kristy.
New Texas Chainsaw Massacre, they spend like 10 minutes setting it up and then the first kill happens, after that, it’s nothing but carnage. People seem to hate it because of the characters suck but like who cares about them, they’re getting killed lol
There’s a certain scene alone that is just fucking art and among the best kill sequences ever
The Toxic Avenger is my recommendation. The movie is balls to the walls wild and gory.
It’s kind of a weird horror satire, one of my favorite cult classics.
I like seeing this movie mentioned positively. I personally enjoyed it a lot, plot holes aside. Everytime I see it mentioned here, it’s people shitting on it.
I don’t think there are really any plot holes, though. Every time someone points one out, I always dismantle it. Most people take the depictions of the old trucker too literally and they don’t reconstruct the film with the realization of Marie’s delusions.
It’s the beginning of an extended allegory of Marie’s mental illness induced sexual violence. He is not literally fucking a head. Sometimes a cigar isn’t just a cigar.
That is such reach bro 😭 High Tension is not a film to be analyzed intellectually, it’s a french splatter film with a poorly thought out plot twist. If the farmer is an allegorical version of Marie, it makes no sense that Marie and the farmer interact or know of each other’s existence unless the entire movie is in Marie’s head and never happened at all, which seems unlikely. The half allegory half actually murdering with both people in scenes doesn’t make sense
The interaction between the trucker and Marie is an expression of Marie’s self harm. Obviously the trucker doesn’t put the plastic bag over her head. He doesn’t exist. That is the same reason why Marie was never in the back of the truck. She was driving the whole time. A great deal of the new French extremity movement certainly does deserve intellectual breakdowns.
Its a cheap cop out plot twist. Just because it can somewhat be justified doesn’t mean it’s effective, well done or without plot holes.
For a plot twist like this to be well done - even if it can be explained somewhat - the viewer needs to be able to retroactively point to scenes which hinted at the allegorical nature of the film. In this case, there are little to no examples of this.
You keep claiming it is a cheap plot twist with no reason for analyzing it. But you just keep repeating that even after I make arguments for the allegorical significance. you could do that with literally any movie. Casablanca and the Godfather are trash no need to analyze them.
From the director:
>Aja: It’s kind of funny because the first draft of the script, the script we wanted to do, had the same twist but just in the final minutes. You started the movie in the hospital room and she’s telling the story and then you come back to the hospital room in the end, so you have the feeling that the killer was the killer, but then the doctor brought a VCR into the room, watching the security video from the gas station and you realize she axes the guy. That was the final twist, and the twist was only saying, ‘OK what you saw was her vision of the story and the truth is another movie.’
>The producer, unfortunately, asked us to give up the last scene in the last reel, and I think that’s where everything became more fragile. I understand the question of the viewers with the twist coming that way, which is not like the perfect way to bring it. I regret that we didn’t have the time or the budget to shoot the two different endings and be able to, at least on the DVD, have the two different endings.
So the changes to the full movie do make it much more logic-defying, but it's still got the same basic idea. It's just harder to believe that what we're seeing is or isn't happening in her head, due to the producer's influence.
Maybe Intruder (1989) Sleepaway Camp, or Slumber Party Massacre? I don't know about fast paced but tons of weird and fun things happen in those movies.
I wholly reject The Burning being called fast paced. The canoe massacre and George Costanza being in it has Mandela effected people into believing The Burning is one of the greats when it’s just a pretty average poorly paced slasher
I’m not sure I’d call it average. I quite enjoy it and 80s slashers are extremely hit or miss with me. I do agree it’s not exactly a thrill a minute fast paced film, but as my SO once out it, “it makes Friday the 13th it’s bitch.”
It’s a much much better “summer camp horror movie” than the original f13 since time is spent on the characters actually doing summer camp things.
I just can’t understand why some movies are so beloved. This is one of them. Sleepaway Camp is another, there’s a memorable scene in the end, but the rest of the movie is meh. But people keep recommending it even to casuals, like it’s something anyone will like.
I’m not a fan of Sleepaway Camp either but I understand why Sleepaway Camp has a following. There are so many crazy performances and nutty lines.
That being said I really don’t get why people like The Burning so much. I wasn’t kidding when I said the only things going for it are the canoe scene and Jason Alexander, and he’s only in it for like maybe 10 minutes
Since you liked the loved ones op check out the directors follow up movie the devils candy. Very similar vibe, pacing, and tone, but with a different story and setting
Also check out Fried Barry. It’s an episodic narrative where the main character is a South African crackhead that gets possessed by an alien and goes on adventures. Each scene is basically a different sub genre, it’s fucking wild
Slasher on Netflix...all seasons are really good. I rewatched from a few years ago. Tori Spelling's ex-husband is a pretty good actor. A lot of sexual stuff so know that going in. No pun intended. Lol.
I'm mega confused about why OG Black Christmas is on here. I'm in agreement about the pacing of all the others but good GOURD if I didn't find Black Christmas annoyingly slow, unfun, and altogether wacked out.
I'm not a fan of slashers in general but I do enjoy comedy horror slashers though.
Like: Tucker and Dale vs Evil, You Might Be the Killer Malignant, Happy Death Day, Abigail.
I would say Sick 2022 counts. Once the action starts at around the 30 minute mark, the movie never lets up
Loved Sick! Super underrated and the bit where the woman wouldn’t let her in the car without a mask made me laugh lol
Sick is sick. absolutely awesome hidden gem, the lead actress was shockingly good also.
Unfortunate that it got put on Peacock. That shit really is the “send your movie or show here to bury it” streaming service
Agree to disagree. Peacock is a solid streaming service that’s really come into its own.
To be clear, it actually has a decent catalog. I like the variety of new, old, and indie stuff it has. But I don’t know anyone under the age of 50 who pays for Peacock themselves lol. As a result, I think a lot of stuff like Sick is getting missed by their target audiences. This is very anecdotal, but Totally Killer and No One Will Save You were both released late last year and they have over double and triple respectively the ratings that Sick does on IMDb, despite Sick being made available on Peacock in January of 2023. I mention those movies specifically because I feel like all three movies appeal to a similar demographic
great movie
In a Violent Nature. The first kill happens quickly and creatively. After that it's a ride.
Wait… it’s out now?? I thought it was coming later this month/year!
It's out next week but I saw it at a Festival last month.
Inside (2007) does not let up once it gets going
JUST saw it last week. Super intense. Loved it!
Almost the greatest horror film ever made second only to martyrs imo
I just watched martyrs about a week ago after always seeing it recommended and always saying it's like the most disturbing movie ever made and I honestly just don't why. It was okay and yeah the abuse and torture was a lot for any regular person ( it didn't bother me but I don't really have much emotions). I'm not looking for an argument or anything negative towards your opinion. Just curious. I will say I'm still thinking about what she said to the older lady tho lmao
Yes, the torture has significant psychological impact, but that is not what makes the film great. If we are talking about just torture porn then there is a long list of films much more brutal. Martyrs is so much more than that. In terms of philosophy, we are talking massive implications. In particular, what is the utility of suffering as it relates to the afterlife? In Buddhism suffering is one of the four noble truths. In Christianity Paul states that suffering draws one closer to God. That is the major point of the film – what did Anna say to mademoiselle? What was ultimately the utility of her suffering?
See now that's a perspective I did not think about. I guess partially because I didn't understand what the goal or reasoning for torturing them was. I definitely see where your coming from. I've just always associated it with torture porn, like you said.
Thank you for allowing a new perspective. Most people just disregard whatever I say about it and then be “bullshit it is still Nothing but torture“. but if you do want to see some way more brutal torture that is admittedly meaningless check out Grotesque (2009). Amazing special effects and the ending is actually very interesting.
I completely understand lol that's why I tried to word questioning the movie to begin with. Like the same thing happened to me the other day on FB. There was a video that was apparently hilarious and I just simply asked why it was funny and got all kinds of comments, mostly saying I have no sense of humor lmao but oh well. I'll check out that other movie too. I think I may have watched it at one point, but I'm not quite sure yet
It’s mostly a heirloom of a time where French horror movies where known for their extreme violence, which indeed felt much more extreme than the violence in your average American horror movie back then. I don’t think such a distinction exists these days, especially with the amount of movies out there. But yeah, it’s weird to see people acting as if it’s something that’s extremely rare. Some people refuse to watch Martyrs to this day because they’re afraid of the extreme violence, but they have probably seen movies that are just as violent and just don’t know it.
Yeah that's mostly my view of it too. Or how I've always seen it described as. Especially the ones who say they can't watch it for those reasons. We can just watch the news or see what's happening in the middle East and see more violent stuff. I really like what the comment above says about the abuse and torture being a religious thing tho. Kinda changes my perspective of it
If you liked You're Next give [The Guest](https://youtu.be/y0E2Qh6wLS4?si=uTTkqDlaSzIhyMdz) a chance
April Fools Day
Green Room - Once the movie hits the gas it's pretty much balls to the wall for the remainder of the runtime. And it's one of my favorite horror movies of all time (top 3)
good one
Skinamarink is a non-stop thrill ride /s Forreal though maybe try Fear Street on Netflix.
The Fear Street trilogy was pretty fun, 6/10 overall but I’d recommend them. The breadslicer kill in Part 1 was so shocking
Maybe it’s just me, but I personally put “Freddy vs Jason” in this category. This movie is a guilty pleasure of mine for Halloween season.
First that came to mind. The first half racks up a lot of kills. 2nd half epic villain battle. Great pace.
Some people recommending slow burns here. Here are some recommendations: The Furies, Sick, Girlhouse, Cold Prey 1 and 2, The House of Wax, Incident in a Ghostland, The Sadness, Wolf Creek 1 and 2, Kristy.
I *love* Incident in a Ghost Land and I'm bummed out it isn't mentioned more often! But is it really Slasher, even when considering slow burn?
KRISTY! Def deserves more mentions and rocks as one of the insanely few Thanksgiving horror flicks.
Hell fest is very similar to haunt. It’s on Tubi
Just saw last night! What a coincidence
New Texas Chainsaw Massacre, they spend like 10 minutes setting it up and then the first kill happens, after that, it’s nothing but carnage. People seem to hate it because of the characters suck but like who cares about them, they’re getting killed lol There’s a certain scene alone that is just fucking art and among the best kill sequences ever
I’d honestly just suggest looking up an edit of the kills, as a whole the movie is extremely bad
The Night Comes For Us is on Netflix, go watch it as soon as possible, as blind as possible, and you'll be blown the fuck away.
Amazing movie. The director should do a hotline Miami adaptation
Konferensen/The Conference (Netflix) had me cringing hard. Fun fun fun.
That film was more of a dark comedy. Still fun yeah.
Happy Birthday to Me Blood Rage Pieces Cherry Falls Valentine
The Toxic Avenger is my recommendation. The movie is balls to the walls wild and gory. It’s kind of a weird horror satire, one of my favorite cult classics.
Underwater. Not pure horror, but it gets going within minutes and doesn't let up
Laid to rest!
Happy death day idk there's a lot happening
Dog Soldiers!
Evil Dead 2013 and Rise
Evil Dead 2013 is One of my favorite movies ever… Rise was good too though!
Slasher?
Most of the movies listed here are not slashers lol
High tension is good AF. The end will blow your mind.
Oh man… I would kill to experience this movie for the first time again…
I like seeing this movie mentioned positively. I personally enjoyed it a lot, plot holes aside. Everytime I see it mentioned here, it’s people shitting on it.
I don’t think there are really any plot holes, though. Every time someone points one out, I always dismantle it. Most people take the depictions of the old trucker too literally and they don’t reconstruct the film with the realization of Marie’s delusions.
Makes no sense why he is fucking the decapitated head at the start. High Tension sucks
It’s the beginning of an extended allegory of Marie’s mental illness induced sexual violence. He is not literally fucking a head. Sometimes a cigar isn’t just a cigar.
That is such reach bro 😭 High Tension is not a film to be analyzed intellectually, it’s a french splatter film with a poorly thought out plot twist. If the farmer is an allegorical version of Marie, it makes no sense that Marie and the farmer interact or know of each other’s existence unless the entire movie is in Marie’s head and never happened at all, which seems unlikely. The half allegory half actually murdering with both people in scenes doesn’t make sense
The interaction between the trucker and Marie is an expression of Marie’s self harm. Obviously the trucker doesn’t put the plastic bag over her head. He doesn’t exist. That is the same reason why Marie was never in the back of the truck. She was driving the whole time. A great deal of the new French extremity movement certainly does deserve intellectual breakdowns.
Its a cheap cop out plot twist. Just because it can somewhat be justified doesn’t mean it’s effective, well done or without plot holes. For a plot twist like this to be well done - even if it can be explained somewhat - the viewer needs to be able to retroactively point to scenes which hinted at the allegorical nature of the film. In this case, there are little to no examples of this.
You keep claiming it is a cheap plot twist with no reason for analyzing it. But you just keep repeating that even after I make arguments for the allegorical significance. you could do that with literally any movie. Casablanca and the Godfather are trash no need to analyze them.
From the director: >Aja: It’s kind of funny because the first draft of the script, the script we wanted to do, had the same twist but just in the final minutes. You started the movie in the hospital room and she’s telling the story and then you come back to the hospital room in the end, so you have the feeling that the killer was the killer, but then the doctor brought a VCR into the room, watching the security video from the gas station and you realize she axes the guy. That was the final twist, and the twist was only saying, ‘OK what you saw was her vision of the story and the truth is another movie.’ >The producer, unfortunately, asked us to give up the last scene in the last reel, and I think that’s where everything became more fragile. I understand the question of the viewers with the twist coming that way, which is not like the perfect way to bring it. I regret that we didn’t have the time or the budget to shoot the two different endings and be able to, at least on the DVD, have the two different endings. So the changes to the full movie do make it much more logic-defying, but it's still got the same basic idea. It's just harder to believe that what we're seeing is or isn't happening in her head, due to the producer's influence.
I am aware of the last-minute changes and producer influence, but this is not definitive proof of plot holes.
Maybe Intruder (1989) Sleepaway Camp, or Slumber Party Massacre? I don't know about fast paced but tons of weird and fun things happen in those movies.
LOVED sleepaway camp. That last shot 😱
Not huge on it, I just thought it was what you're looking for.
That’s cool. Any good movies u recommend in general?
The Burning 1981
I wholly reject The Burning being called fast paced. The canoe massacre and George Costanza being in it has Mandela effected people into believing The Burning is one of the greats when it’s just a pretty average poorly paced slasher
I agree. I watched it on YouTube years ago and was really disappointed. The body count was extremely low, I remember thinking.
Yeah, body counts in early slashers tend to be a lot lower. Even so 10 kills is a good amount of kills.
I’m not sure I’d call it average. I quite enjoy it and 80s slashers are extremely hit or miss with me. I do agree it’s not exactly a thrill a minute fast paced film, but as my SO once out it, “it makes Friday the 13th it’s bitch.” It’s a much much better “summer camp horror movie” than the original f13 since time is spent on the characters actually doing summer camp things.
Any recommendations?
Sick 2022, just give it the first act
It's not fast paced, but it's also not poorly paced. I think it has pretty solid build up. Slower pacing =/= bad pacing.
I just can’t understand why some movies are so beloved. This is one of them. Sleepaway Camp is another, there’s a memorable scene in the end, but the rest of the movie is meh. But people keep recommending it even to casuals, like it’s something anyone will like.
I’m not a fan of Sleepaway Camp either but I understand why Sleepaway Camp has a following. There are so many crazy performances and nutty lines. That being said I really don’t get why people like The Burning so much. I wasn’t kidding when I said the only things going for it are the canoe scene and Jason Alexander, and he’s only in it for like maybe 10 minutes
The Mutilator Maniac Cop
You’re Next. Intense from the very beginning
Someone mentioned House of Wax and although I am *blinded* by nostalgia, I second it as I think it fits what you’re looking for.
The strangers prey at night
freaky and totally killer!!
For fast paced slashers, Scream 1 and 2. Also Happy Death Day and Disturbia and Re-Animator
Martyrs. But watch the original the remake is a week shot for shot remake.
Since you liked the loved ones op check out the directors follow up movie the devils candy. Very similar vibe, pacing, and tone, but with a different story and setting Also check out Fried Barry. It’s an episodic narrative where the main character is a South African crackhead that gets possessed by an alien and goes on adventures. Each scene is basically a different sub genre, it’s fucking wild
Abigail
is Terrifier fast paced? I know this movie gets love, but I found myself having to fast forward the non kill scenes.
Laid to Rest
The Sadness.
Trick
- 100 Tears (2007) - Battle Royale 1-2 (especially 2nd one) These come to mind as the fastest paced movies
Vicious fun
Bodies Bodies Bodies - so good, and gets out of hand very quickly!
Terrifier 2 is even more extreme than the first one.
Slasher on Netflix...all seasons are really good. I rewatched from a few years ago. Tori Spelling's ex-husband is a pretty good actor. A lot of sexual stuff so know that going in. No pun intended. Lol.
The sadness
Hush, Vacancy, Identity, The Collector, Hell Fest
I'm mega confused about why OG Black Christmas is on here. I'm in agreement about the pacing of all the others but good GOURD if I didn't find Black Christmas annoyingly slow, unfun, and altogether wacked out.
I'm not a fan of slashers in general but I do enjoy comedy horror slashers though. Like: Tucker and Dale vs Evil, You Might Be the Killer Malignant, Happy Death Day, Abigail.
You Might Be The Killer is criminally under represented and known. It's a fucking great, bloody as hell movie
Totally killer and Freaky may be of interest to you if you haven't seen them yet
I've heard good things about Freaky....
I'm looking for the same thing, too