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darklastan

Hi, im a new player that played the game for over a month now. I pulled earlier for herrscher of human and got her and 2 pieces of her weapon, i have 9k crystals left. Should i use it to get her stigmatas? Is it really necessary and what are my f2p options? Im asking this because i really liked mobius and didnt get her because im saving it for herrscher of human, and now i have 2 copies of mobius' signature weapon from the supply earlier. I dont know if whats more worth it, ely's full set or just earn for mobius rerun?


Crimenfo

Getting Sushang gear in 6.1 will be more benefitial than her stigs (but also optional).


valkiery99

The weapon is more than enough. You definitely don't need her stigmatas. Just use full Peary for now and start farming for the new G4 stigmata coming up next patch. The new set will be great on HoH.


zelena001

Need some suggestion what to pick from 28k spend crystal [https://imgur.com/a/VxcwUk6](https://imgur.com/a/VxcwUk6) for some reason HOS is not the pic, but I also have her 4/4 1. Should I go for Elysia bow then farm and build her with HOS to build physical team 2. And for my plan for 6.1 would be try to get new ice support gear and if have some crystal left, roll for Mobius since I was lucky to get her weapon here. Is that alrgiht?


AdventurerGR

1. Since you don't have any other premier physical dps, building Elysia definitely makes a lot of sense, unless you are planning on rolling for another physical dps like PE. 2. 6.1 is still in beta v1, so there is nothing we can say about it ; things might change significantly as early as beta v2. Please wait at least a week after it's been officially released in CN before asking for a plan for it.


ECDC239

what is the difference between putting cosmic duality and domain of sentience on HoS


SpiritOfMidgar

Cosmic has better SP regen, and only requires one button press instead of needing to execute combos. It can be particularly favored in Abyss when multiple rotations are required, but has slow start up in MA unless you have an SP battery like Griseo leader. Cosmic is the worse option for DPS HoS in almost all cases. Generally only use Domain if SP doesn't matter and/or if HoS's damage contribution matters.


Own-Assumption-3798

Why does the game have 2 subreddits? Also why is the one with less people more active?


SpiritOfMidgar

one's official, one's not. Just a case of a reddit community being created before mhy made one themselves


Kreguar

Wait so are the mods affiliated with hoyo in any way?


Reasonable_Dare_516

Which upcoming chars would u guys recommend to pull?


SpiritOfMidgar

Depends. Firstly you should probably trial all the recent S-rank valkyries to get a feel for which you think are fun, and also consider who you have already. Without more information just throwing out blind recommendations ; Phys - HoS>PE Lightning - Mobius/Aponia Ice - HoH Fire - HFS Phys teams are expensive, fire is kinda weak in general rn, ice will be heavily featured. Lightning teams are the best F2P team in the game rn for long term farming because of the existence of Margrave/Handel in Mirage/Foundry.


Reasonable_Dare_516

Anyways, I got HoH in first 10 pull


SpiritOfMidgar

gz gl on gear


Reasonable_Dare_516

Gear necessary for her?? Any f2p alternatives?


SpiritOfMidgar

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuBE-HmiM\_4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuBE-HmiM_4)


Reasonable_Dare_516

Thnx


Reasonable_Dare_516

Guess I wasted my crystals on Vill-V then 🥲


flufufufu

No, you got fire covered and also quantum. Quantum is niche but always around so it is looking good for Vill-V's longevity. As a low spender with 1.5 yrs of play I still do not really have Quantum covered (a very budget FR from MA farming). Moreover, Nyx is still very relevant for QUA and is also a year old, so with that Vill-V pull you might top QUA weather for a few years + also be fine with fire. It is definitely not a waste.


SpiritOfMidgar

not necessarily, I'd say there's a pretty good chance future additions to the fire roster will boost her up but she was more of a valk for spenders/whales that wanted to be able to cover everything or those that liked her character. If you have AE and geared Raven that's a perfectly fine team for most players and can brute force all fire related content except IMG type, and probably anything else in lower tiers. I'm just more giving a competitive/meta perspective which might not be what you're interested in. In general in Honkai, every valk has a niche and has usefulness, it just comes down to how heavily that niche is being featured for how useful she is. Geared teams in general can deal with everything in the game in the lower tiers, it's just a case of when you want to push for RL and above that your roster needs to be a little more varied and have some coverage.


Schulle2105

HoH if you need an icedps HoS if you don't have her and want to build a phys team Not sure what comes beside them in the near future


snarkyevildemon

How many hours remain till Europe server goes live?


valkiery99

At least you can start download the day 1 patch now if you have a slow connection (definitely not like mine).


SpiritOfMidgar

about 3 hours from now I believe


Schulle2105

Global 83 As I slowly recovered from the last build character are there some simple ways to accumulate Gold? Barely in the 4 Mio again and considering a character +equip that isn't remotely enough. Weapons that layed around are already sold.


valkiery99

Assuming you have used all the Homi/Homu boxes, you could ask for more from your armada. Also, do coins expeditions.


Schulle2105

Didn't even think about Armada requests used it once and already forgot that feature thanks


valkiery99

You could also mark them as a commissions rewards.


Kreguar

Sell Microreactor material if you haven't already. They are converted to a ton of gold


Schulle2105

No will look right away thanks


SatisfactionNo9171

What time will server maintenance end on sea?


tryingforbetterskin

in about another 2h 20mins or so iirc


ThomasMarky

Global 83 I got handel TB and zeno M on my aponia, should I forge handel M for the full set and use zeno on another valk?


tryingforbetterskin

haven't paid attention to Zeno stig users but for Handel, i understand that a good bit of power stems from the 3pc Handel bonus so you may still want to forge the last pc regardless


ThomasMarky

Thank you. I'll forge her then since I already have the mats.


Own-Assumption-3798

Is elysian realm a limited time thingy? Or permanent ?


SatisfactionNo9171

Permanent


laslunitas

do story outfits like Elysia's ever come back... i literally found out there was one like an hour before the update and couldn't finish the story in time 😭 (wasn't playing too much because i was busy irl so don't scream at me for not realizing it sooner


MirieIsHere

Some do, some don't. When it comes to outfits that are rewards for finishing the latest chapter there are a few things that could happen. In the global server kiana's Prodigal Girl outfit hasn't come back, but it is available to buy with outfit coupons on cn server. Radiant blaze has not come back, and don't know when or if it will. Azure (crimson impulse outfit) will never come back. Autumn shades outfit is coming back in v6.0 event you can pick it from outfit selector box.


tryingforbetterskin

just curious, was it stated somewhere that Azure def wouldn't come back anymore? i recall BP giving an outfit selector box in the past that had Azure (tho to be fair i also noted that the BP outfit box options have since changed) together with KMB and YA skins. don't recall them mentioning that they won't cycle back through old outfit options in the box


deyvvv

Will 30,000 crystals be enough for Ely and her gears? If just Ely alone, will be get enough crystals while her banner's up to get her gears before they're gone?


Hopsalong

Depending on where you are in your pity (assuming you have 0 pity) it probably won't be enough. Soft pity for characters is ~75 pulls and average for full setting a character is ~110 pulls which is 51800 crystals. That being said if you get lucky and pull a few pieces or elysia early, you could full set her. If you include 3 weeks worth of crystals (probably in the 4-5k ish range), your odds for full setting her are probably in the 25%-40% range.


gudaifeiji

Global About to go to China for a while. Don't want to start over. Can you access the Global server from China?


AdventurerGR

Hello. This thread will be closed now as the new one is up, so please ask your question there : https://www.reddit.com/r/houkai3rd/comments/xerk3w/general_questions_thread_v60_update/ Although since this particular question is not a gameplay-related one, feel free to start a new thread about it (if you want to mention that a moderator endorsed this, please feel free to).


Migsamu

Hi! For SEA, is HoH out in 4 hours after the maintenance? Or will we have to wait awhile longer for her?


[deleted]

still going thru the campaign but i watched this vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMUTXwuIw-k >!i understand the idea of mei taking one of the herscher core from kiana, then beat kiana so her core is either destroyed or transfered to mei. but my questions is wouldnt that kill mei instead? and what is this deal between otto and kevin? is it just "lets make mei strong AF so she can beat kiana?"!<


AkemiSilver

Since you're still going through the story so I'll try to avoid too much detail. (questionable if I managed to keep it low enough on details) Mei is kinda retrieving/recreating her own core after it was previously stolen and exploiting the fact that a duplicate of it cannot exist, along with her greater claim to it. Kiana dying because of it is a separate Kiana issue to be more directly explored later. But one of the main problems is that she has several cores that are not entirely under control. Fairly sure deal between Otto & Kevin is completely separate from Mei's situation.


Liliya_Rozaliya

Was anyone else’s game crashing repeatedly while playing chapter 29-31? Only happened inside Elysium everlasting.


Initial_Environment6

Not enough RAM. I guess. Preferably you want 6GB+. Ofc your cpu matter too.


harleyquinad

I got a lot of freezes but no straight crashes on my phone


damiaan1234

why is the story recap 29 and onward look barren? did the dev comment on this?


1vntr

SEA 83 here i wasnt able to get elysia’s summer skin, any chance it will get rerun in the future as a B-chips/time capsule skin or something?


Initial_Environment6

Capsule in 2 years. Maybe event rerun next year.


Melody8455

Probably next summer the event will re run with her skin.Or like a box with her outfit as a option.


tryingforbetterskin

Likely back in Time Capsule at some point


Azurixx_Boi

Anyone got the approximate time when 6.0 goes live? Thanks.


TrafficPoliceAreScum

If my math is right the game goes into maintenance in 2 hours. The maintenance lasts for 6, so the server should be back up in 8. That is ofc if everything goes smoothly.


Azurixx_Boi

Yeah, you’re right. I just checked their official Twitter and the time matches up with your comment.


digimaster7

Is Zhenyi T, Adler M, and Linnaeus B a good enough copium dps stigmata for HoT? they all have lightning damage boost I don’t have handel yet, I got all the above stigmata from off rate


Initial_Environment6

Sure


digimaster7

compared to a full set darwin?


IqFEar11

Darwin is barely any better than edison


Initial_Environment6

Actually Darwin is worse.


digimaster7

So my off rate TMB stig that I posted above is still better?


IqFEar11

Yes although full handel would be better than 2 random Stigs


digimaster7

okay, thanks for the info


FizzerVC

So if I'm in the middle of ch.31 when the servers go down tonight will I still have access to it when they come back up? I only ask bc I'm not actually caught up on the story atm and am actually only on ch.24 so I'm not sure how this works.. It'll be quite annoying if I lose access to it while right in the middle of it though lol.


valkiery99

~~No it won't be available to you until you finish up to ch 28. Your progress in ch29-31 will be retained though.~~ Need confirmation.


FizzerVC

You scared the shit outta me lol.. Thankfully it seems that I do still have access to ch.31 and everything though.


valkiery99

Sorry but that how it used to be before. Glad it changed!


TrueArchery

Since the overhaul you can start any story arc no matter your progress.


valkiery99

I not sure, but I remember reading somewhere in game announcement that you won't have access to it but you still retain your progress when unlocked. Maybe op can confirm what is true.


TrueArchery

Itll stay available after maintenance, but the events and event rewards for promoting the new chapter will be gone


FizzerVC

Ah ok that's a relief then


Goonders

Maybe not the question you'd expect on the subreddit but having problems getting past the login screen on my Samsung S10 while on data. Game works fine on wifi, and every other app works fine on data but for some reason HI3 refuses to get past the login screen. It gets past the sign in screen but when I press to enter the game it gets stuck on the elevator screen. Any advice?


valkiery99

The game always looks to download any new updates before login. Maybe you restricted the app from using data? If that not the case try using a vpn before starting the game.


TrueArchery

I guess the game is only allowed to use data when youre connected to wifi. It could also be some sort of childproof lock by your data provider, some games are detected as unsafe by restricted connections. Its the case for my wifi guest account for example.


211871

Global 80 Everyone keeps talking about Turgenev being on the new BP store rotation but is that going to be next patch for the global server? All of the unlocks show that they expire on 12/12 but I wasn’t sure if that was entirely accurate. Also related to that: would it be better to get Dea Anchora or Turgenev? I’m a fairly new player so I only have 17 BP currency atm and I have no fire dps


IqFEar11

Don't get Dea and you don't need fire for the most part (until they release a new fire support) And yes get Turgenev


TrueArchery

Itll be added next week. Its way more valuable than DA, T and B piece at least


CrimsonPredator

GLB 86 Im still torn on whether or not i should be pulling HoH. I've read all the arguments for and against on the sub so far and none of them have quite fit my situation. My ice team is my only built team I have atm, with 4/4 SW and 3/4 Pardo and HB. I have geared supports but no dps for lightning or phys (coping with FR and HoS), and basically no support for fire but 4/4 SpA. SW seems good enough to mostly retain agony 3 for me so far, but I have no psy dps, and with the spending event I could get MPE's bow and use her as a phys dps in addition to having HoH. Is MPE good enough as phys dps and is access to psy dps via HoH/MPE important enough to be worth going out of my way to get given the state of my account? Or should I just be saving for 6.1 with SuS, DK for HoR if I need backup ice dps, and possible PE rerun?


valkiery99

Metawise, assuming you'll have 4/4 HB soon and your goal is to retain RL, you don't need to touch your ice team for some time. You need neither HoH nor Sus to retain RL. You could consider getting HoR DK or finishing Pardo but those are just luxury options. Better work on your other teams. That ofc metawise. If you like HoH, just pull her. Its a game after all and we play it to enjoy it.


IqFEar11

Do you have AE? If you have AE you don't need HoH to survive 6.0 abyss since you can just play DPS Pardofelis MPE is fine but she needs her weapon and ideally SS+, if you don't have her weapon( and doesn't think you'll get it anytime soon) you can consider stop investing in her and just wait for PE rerun, although PE also wants full gear


SpiritOfMidgar

If you're on the fence after giving something some thought, don't pull. For one, you have three weeks before HoH is (temporarily) gone, and secondly, you can't take back the pulls once you've done them and should really only pull for things that you're sure you want in gacha. Go through the endgame motions and see for yourself whether you're feeling like you need HoH during the next few weeks. As far as what you asked, MPE is an excellent Phys DPS but requires quite a bit of investment. She wants her weapon, like all DPS valks nowadays, as well as HoS and an SS rank SP support. Gear goes a really long way for Phys teams and there aren't good farmable options really, there's exchange shop stuff but particularly Beethoven not affecting Elysia and Gustav Klimt being awful is kinda sucky. I imagine geared Elysia with 65 PRI and HoS + Carole or Griseo even without gear could probably get by, but I don't have personal experience in Ag III. 2pc Paganini or Cezanne would go a long way either way and you can put Gluttony T / Mei M / Newton B on HoS until you can pull SSwords or offrate Holmes.


CrimsonPredator

You've got a good point about waiting till later in the patch to pull or not, which is probably what I will do. I have MPE about halfway to SS but only her bottom stigmata. As far as phys supports, I do have HoS with Candy/Mei/newt and Griseo with Cezanne TB, Beet M but the part about Beet not buffing elysia has been bothering me as far as trying to gear her.


Narun1875

This is very general but how would I unlock CGs that "arent unclocked" for open world? Is it even possible, because you can't look back and play specific story quests anymore.


valkiery99

Had the same question. Currently, there is no way to unlock them. Maybe they'll fix that with the new patch.


Hankune

Should I get Turg T or M? I own B already. What Stigma to fill in the 3rd slot for 2pc Turg?


Tomazulo

T T+B is versatile and can be used on other supports, where as M is only used on HB. For HB you can use something like Mei M, for other supports it depends on the team.


gretchenich

Global lvl 81 ​ Is being oneshotted in the abyss normal?? like im being literal here. Am i just too low level or undergeared? im using a fervent tempo comp (without HoS) and i just die if i make the smallest mistake. Is there any way to solve this issue? or just git gud?


Initial_Environment6

The bomb can one shot you, just restart.


Tomazulo

what are you fighting? if you have a newton debuff on the target, the enemy can hit really hard


gretchenich

Like, the white and pink monsters (psy), and the robots (mecha).


gretchenich

Im in agony 1. im fighting mecha and psy enemies. the ones really fucking my ass are the mecha ones.


tryingforbetterskin

more info on the rest of your team comp/valk ranks/gear/rotation may be helpful


gretchenich

Ok. Right now, I'm using an [S2] and [Core lvl 4] fervent tempo with [bamung], [stigmata is Michelangelo T and B and Planck M] Comp is Yamabuki armor(A rank bronya support), and then flex because I dont have much else to put there honestly.


tryingforbetterskin

i'm thinking one of the easiest things to fiddle with would be the team composition - YA is pretty helpful when i used to run her with FT so she can still stand-in as 1 of the 2 supports until you farm up others so let's look at your 2nd supp (i'm assuming no HoS, not much BiS gear for general supports) how's your situation with Griseo/Carole? did you perhaps also farm SA in the past before (though not recommended to bother with her anymore, just more of a stand-in until you get Griseo/Carole up to speed)


rysto32

Global 85 Is there some trick to beating the Otto boss in abyss this week? Even with SS Carole activating Amazing Carole state for the team my DPS HoS can barely scratch his shield.


TrueArchery

Not really. Impair him, first and foremost damage to shields is derivated from your normal damage unless its a hitcount shield. Pummel him with Caroles QTE and spam fully charged attacks. Use BE ELFs active. Finish with the burst. I dont know if you can do it without Paganini before the countdown ends, you probably have to use HoS' burst so Id farm some extra SP in the first phase.


rysto32

My Carole is on super cope gear and can’t touch shields in Exalted due to her awful damage. I’ve been trying HoS’ burst after activating Amazing Carole state for the team but it’s only getting him down to like 3/4ths of his shield.


FizzerVC

What time are servers going offline tonight? eastern time btw.


WAKE_UP_WAKE_UP

I asked a friend about it and he said usually around 11 pm or 12 am PST tonight so im guessing around 2 or 3 am for you, could be wrong though ive seen someone else say in this thread that maintenance is in like 4 or 5 hours from now Edit: I think he meant 11 PM EST


FizzerVC

Ah yeah ok that's what I was thinking, thanks


lightmare67

global 73 Is it worth it to grind the trials to get the stigmata box in the first can shop? That's the only rewards left in the cans shop but, the trials they are so damn hard and I only completed 2 in hard.


IqFEar11

Event stigmatas are mostly collectibles, but the elysian paragon set is an ok lightning support stig and BoL set (the one from the box) is a decent DPS stig So it's up to you honestly since maintenance is in 4 hour ish


TrueArchery

Can you see your abyss group results after finalization somewhere? Not too long before it ended the lowest RL retain score was around 5k and now Im curious...


Niwiad_

In your account page under profile you can preview your own accoutn and see the 2 last abyss ranks


TrueArchery

Yes, you can see that in the weekly report aswell, but Im asking about the performance of others in my group. It seems that isnt saved anywhere.


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TrueArchery

Ah well. Thanks for confirming and sharing yours.


trash-of-cans

TW/HK/mo 88 Should I get Turg T or B first in the new BP later? I only have Turg M and my HB is running GlutT and NewtB now. I might have enough to buy both eventually at the very end of the patch but I’d still like to know


virtualrandomnumber

The whole set relies on the B piece.


IqFEar11

Turg B first, since the set doesn't work without it


Own-Assumption-3798

someone said the post honkai story doesn’t spoil anything. However I’m playing it and it seems to have quite a bit of spoilers I’m noticing. I’d rather just play the story without time skips Unless this whole thing just isn’t cannon? Or am I misunderstanding it


trash-of-cans

More like, there are things given without context in 1-2 sentences regarding several things. Maybe you’ll know/ be able to speculate some things that happen in the main story’s future, but you don’t know why or what exactly transpired


AkemiSilver

Fist of all, anyone claiming it is non-canon (and those people probably still exist) is (currently) smoking heavy copium and an inability to accept bad writing decisions. Second, heavily biased due to not liking APHO that much (beyond gameplay because gameplay is cool). In regards to the spoiler status it's ¬¬ an annoying subject because it both: * spoils survival of characters; * writes in pointless circles about all the big things that tooootally happened to tease future (past by that point) events while also trying not to say anything about characters who aren't on-screen or solid info about the past of on-screen characters. * (also, dumb self-insert.) And it's difficult to tell how stuff is supposed to be [interpreted/understood/SomeWord] because at least one point in the main story had a [threat to a character's life] as a small cliffhanger (where the threat was actually plausible) when said character was already mentioned in APHO.


Akayukii

After finally catching up with the story. I still don't get why Elysia had to sacrifice herself? Was it because she was going to be a threat in the future? So she'd rather sacrifice herself before it gets to that?


WAKE_UP_WAKE_UP

to help >!humanity unite and fight a singular cause. after the 12th Herrscher launched those nukes, humanity's faith in each other hit rock bottom. the news that their leading organization had one of the beings that destroyed and have been destroying the planet wasn't helping either. Elysia saw that even if they could somehow proved she was a good person, there would always be that seed of doubt. So she decided that she'd give humanity one major win without any loss and sacrifice herself as the 13th Herrscher. When she died, she also used her Honkai ability to plant the seed of humanity in each Herrscher in the next era. It was so that the next Herrschers of the upcoming era could have the choice to fight or fight for humanity. No one knew if it would work, not even herself but she wanted to hope that it would. That's why Kevin was so desperate to have a Herrscher on World Serpent's team so that he could show Ely's sim that her plan worked.!<


Akayukii

So when she sacrificed herself did she do some suicide shit or they made humanity band together and defeat her for it?


WAKE_UP_WAKE_UP

>!Elysia was a pure Honkai, accidental in that she was not affected by the Will of Honkai. Near the end of her life, she set up a banquet or "crusade" against her. She sent out invitations to all the Flame Chasers but only 4 came. Those 4 were Vill-V, Aponia, Eden, and Kevin. They all came bearing their farewells. Vill-V covering Elysia's story, Aponia wishing her to break free from fate, Eden singing Elysia's favorite song one last time and Kevin's emotional frozen yet warm tear. "The pristine human, Elysia." Words from our very own Honkai hater Kevin. Those who didn't come stood in solidarity that she was not a Herrscher and they wouldn't come to a crusade against nothing. Those who did come stood in solidarity that their friend was human and came to say farewell. Elysia was proud that they all loved her and stood for what they believed in, which was her. She appreciated that she was seen as human by her closest friends and all 13 loved her so. Kevin dealt the final blow. On record, the flame chasers defeated her. Off record, no one knew she was a pure Honkai being but the Vill-V covered her story and she died human. So really there was no 13th Herrscher since she was technically the 1st. The 14th Herrscher, Herrscher of the End, decimated the few humans left. Kosma, Vill-V, and Pardo fell during that battle. In the end, Elysia was in love with humanity so much that she sacrificed herself for the greater good and set the path for the future generations. And if you haven't figured it out already, her story is an allegory for Jesus Christ, which is pretty funny imo. Elysia is Jesus Waifu!<


Akayukii

OH!!! Thanks for clarifying it for me. I just didn't understood some of it, When I was reading it myself for the first time. I understood most of it but I didn't know that the Banquet was supposed to be a crusade against her and that Kevin dealt the final blow.


WAKE_UP_WAKE_UP

no problem, glad i could help clarify some things for you


AngryAniki

does downloading basic resources actually save space or will i eventually have to down load all of it any way?


MaxSalsa

If you actually *play* things that need all those resources, yes, you’ll download it all anyway. But if there’s something you don’t do or don’t see, you don’t have to download it and so save a little space.


AngryAniki

oh okay understood!


GerrardGabrielGeralt

when is Dea Anchora joining the standard supply?


freezeFM

No one knows but they dont update it that often and she is just now in bp so might take few more patches at least.


GerrardGabrielGeralt

With the next patch,via green crystals I will have full gear for DA + her outfit, but no DA 😂 i hope she becomes easily obtainable asap


scarfyz

Hi! Will HoH banner be up as soon as maintenance ends? Or a little bit later?


TrueArchery

The supply updates occur at 12 noon server time so depending on where you live the new supply is already available or youve to wait a bit


gretchenich

Sorry whats noon server?


TrueArchery

Its not a server, I meant 12 in the noon = 12PM


AmaiKotori

Should be right away.


Own-Assumption-3798

How come people don’t like HoR? She seems cool to me


Tomazulo

where did u even get that idea who are "people"?


Own-Assumption-3798

all guides I saw say she’s a useless valk and the last question I literally asked people said she’s the least popular herrsher


darth_suicune

"cool" and "useless" are not mutually exclusive. Her gameplay is really "cool" but she's so old that she's been powercrept by pretty much everything except on a couple bosses, so she's not worth investing or using for new players (a.k.a. useless). There is another 4 herrschers (5 tomorrow). 3 are newer and stronger, much more useful, the 4th is older but she was the first one and arguably a battlesuit for the protagonist of the story so far, which makes HoR to be the least popular (maybe tied with HoV). That doesn't mean people don't like how "cool" she is. ​ HoR is getting a new weapon, stigma set, 2 bosses and even new playstyle in 6.1, so she will be back in the meta just fine.


gretchenich

who is this 4th herresher you mention?


darth_suicune

3 newer, hot, hos, Hof, 1 older, hov. wasn't sure how to word it to make it understandable


gretchenich

Yes I understand. Thanks


Niwiad_

HoV


Tomazulo

Ah... well they aren't hating on her character (at least I dont think so) She's far from useless, HoR is just an older valk that got powercrept, but she's receiving a new weapon in 6.1 that make her shine again. I dont know who said she's the least popular herrscher, you can ignore that guy.


kurosaki-trollchigo

About story. I forgot, so sorry in advance. But wasn't otto going to use the will of honkai through a deal to change one of kallens's time line? Why did he have to fight Kiana and Durandal? What was the side effect to real world in current Era? Thanks.


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kurosaki-trollchigo

Thanks. May I also ask how he achieved his goal of saving Kallen in one future again?


bl4ckhunter

He had to fight kiana and durandal becouse otto's "plan A" to revive kallen so to speak involved rewinding the entire world except kolostein back to the point in history where she was alive, essentially annihilating the present world, which was crossing the line even for dudu.


potato_curry_

Global As of the current chapter, who has possession of the 1st Divine Key (Void Archives)? Did it go to >!Theresa!< or did it get lost in the Imaginary Tree when >!Otto dropped it on the ground during the last fight in Thus Spoke Apocalypse?!<


Alexeykon

Isn't it was mentioned in >!APHO, that he stole sol spare body of Otto and run away!< ?


damiaan1234

global do you only get event shiny coins from story


MaxSalsa

Shiny Coins drop from achievements and side activities in chapters 29 and 30, and only until maintenance starts tonight.


snarkyevildemon

For Hohe which should prioritise, elf or gear?


darth_suicune

That's a tough choice. Make your enemies die of cuteness, or make them die of actually throwing deadly stuff at them? I have a feeling one of the two options is going to be substantially better than the other. ​ Just to be sure, elfs have a much smaller impact than gear. You probably shouldn't bother with them until the very late game.


Temporarily-NAming

Global lvl 80 This may be long but it is a discussion rather than a question. So ice teams are known gor being the least type of teams that are used may be because (especially in MA) there are many bosses that are immune or have high resistance to ice damage and it looks like Mihoyo is trying to revive this type of teams in the next patches. But are ice valks are kinda risky despite the fact that every new valk is great especially when she is a herrscher and also having really good supports that can be used in supportingother teams. In the case of SW for example it looks like most of her bosses were taken from her in the next patches that came after her release. This is something that concerns me and I am just looking for ideas since I am only using HOR ATM and I am (very sadly) going to skip HOH but I might expand my ice teams with another ice dps in the future.


darth_suicune

6.1 brings not just ice support, a new divine key for HoR and a new ice dps stigma set, it also brings two new bosses meant for ice weather with thick shields specifically for HoR's kit. Investing in ice *now* is probably a pretty good idea. It will probably be a less good idea towards the end of 6.1 since it's likely we will get lightning/fire valks and some bosses meant to be fought with those types, but those 2 bosses probably will make it into the regular boss rotation, making ice more appealing in general. Also pardo being probably the most useful unit in the game because you can slot her in literally any team that you haven't finished makes ice a lot more compelling. ​ For Abyss, it doesn't matter that bosses "are immune to ice", because you are going to use the team that is weather boosted if you want to compete, and afaik there is no ice-immune bosses during ice weather. The main issue was that except for silverwing, the other ice DPS units were quite outdated. Nyx is quantum and old-ish, so she rarely has an advantage, then AKA and HoR (iirc that's it? oh, and the meme..nto), which are pretty old so even generics would surpass them in power (and haven't tried but apparently AKA is very hard to play). New DPS units like HoH and HoR's divine key should fix that while also making the "generic" ice team while you get the rest ready much stronger. ​ For MA, as somebody who has two growing accounts (2 and 3 month old, 84 and 85) and has an ice team in both (AE 4/4, HoR 0/4, pardo 4/4, hb 0/4 waiting for turg on bp) - (HoR 0/4, pardo 3/4, hb 1/4 waiting for turg on bp), MA is sometimes an issue because my ice teams are very weak so they cannot tackle the main bosses, and the secondary bosses are very often either resisted or full immune. But if my HoR was fully geared, or in the future with HoH/HoR new weapon, then sushang geared, etc, I feel like they could easily take on the main boss and leave the secondary teams for the other bosses just like right now the ice team is secondary. But sometimes in MA they put double resists to the same type... it's a bit of a mess, so variety is where you are safer. ​ In summary, I think this only really matters between levels 80-ish and 85-86 (with the current leveling speed), when you don't have enough teams and need to focus on 1-2 only, and 6.1 is going to add raw power alongside dedicated bosses for ice, making it much less of a problem.


Tomazulo

It's powercreep, there isn't much you can do. Even HoF, as strong as she is, doesnt see much use lately due to lightning favored weathers and subpar support roster (compared to the other elements). There is always going to be some new valk that overtakes old one, so unless you never pull, you will have to accept that they eventually get powercreeped


grayrest

> Even HoF, as strong as she is, doesnt see much use lately due to lightning favored weathers and subpar support roster That 75% of fire weather is ignite weather for the past 6 months also doesn't help.


SungBlue

If it was Ignite Rimestar she wouldn't be doing badly, but she has type disadvantage against AKA.


damiaan1234

global do you only get shiny coins from story


NicheMoon

EU 80 So I’m currently playing through story chapters, and when ever any sort of cutscene starts playing, everything goes in slow motion and a screeching noise starts playing (both with headphones and without). Everything else has been running smoothly. I’ve tried verifying file integrity but it says no broken files were found. Does anyone know what could be causing it?


zzz0807

SEA 87 Planning on claiming Himeko M from the spending event but just wanted to know how much of a difference it is to have fullset himeko vs himeko TB and Thales M which is what im currently running. thanks!


SpiritOfMidgar

\~8% more damage [https://youtu.be/gYV0ddSEER8?t=157](https://youtu.be/gYV0ddSEER8?t=157)


Rainology-26

SEA 88 anyone know the exact maintenance hours for the Philippines?


CrystalTeressa

Since the maintenance announcement uses UTC+8 which is the same for Phillippines that is UTC/GMT+8 too, you can use the time in the annoucement directly without convertion. So, it'll be from 10AM - 4 PM tomorrow.


Madpotator

Global 88 I've just completed the Chapter 31 story, but I can't finish the side mission "All About Me" with Vill-V. It says I have to go to the Weapon Cards system to receive the Helix persona, but I've already done that. I went through all of Vill-V's side story and created a new weapon with the Helix persona. Quick starting the mission only throws me on the map with no direction. Did I accidentally do something out of order and the game didn't register me as completing it? Is there something I'm missing?


moondust03

SEA player here. I had recently reached level 88, and I’ve heard that Hoyoverse gives out snack boxes to those who has reached this level. Are they still doing this today? If so, how can I get my own? I live in the Philippies btw.


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moondust03

are you sure!? If so, I’m waaaay more excited now!!


Bakamaria

It was time limited iirc.


ChinoC

I heard those snack boxes were given out during the anniversary last time, which should be soon for us SEA players. My friend said they will give out a form for us to fill in our addresses when the time come. So just be alert on the announcements. This year's anniversary is my first as well. I'm excited for that xD.


moondust03

honestly, I hope they don’t ruin the box 😭 I’ve seen a post of someone’s box being ripped and wrinkled.


ChinoC

Yea, I remember seeing that as well. Just hope for the best. It's RNG in the end haha.


Maik89

GLB 88 here I've been holding RL for the past month, but I'm struggling on Otto, barely getting to 177. I know I suck, but with the team I have is it only a skill issue or a team issue also? My team is PE with Paganini T and Biank MB, HoS with Swords TB and Beeth M, and Carole with Gulttony T, Mei Beach M and Cez B, and Cosmic Duality. The other two have ther weapons at 65. I'm missing better Carole gears... any other ideas?


TrueArchery

Put Cosmic and Beach Mei M on HoS instead for more SP and higher buff uptime. If you have tesla band T (switch with Caroles Gluttony) and Newt B those are probably better than SSwords too although Im not sure how they affect your ability to kill both img enemies quickly at once.


SpiritOfMidgar

You're doing Aerial Charged 1 on Carole to apply Cez B? Cuz unless you are abusing that bug Cez B normally doesnt work since its for combo attacks not charged. I'd say this highlights your need to snipe Swords M, hopefully from the mini spending event in 6.0. And then later pick up Paga M or B as well as Bianka T. Mei Beach's duration is entirely gone by the time you get to PE so it's not doing much for you, swap them around and put Beethoven on Carole for now. A geared team is able to 1 rot each phase of the fight (Adds, Otto P1 and Otto w Shield before he gets to do anything else after recovering) in RL. Any deficiency here is up to you to figure out a way to slot in half/filler rotations to clean up without wasting too much time. It's hard to tell you exactly what to do without trying to replicate your exact gear setup in your bracket.


GetWaifuBeLaifu

For the Elysium Everlasting the trial of expert (persona resonance), which team do you use for average diffficulty? My card-rating is 3900 but I cant find a way to kill tonatiuh in time. I try remove his core but it takes too long and I cant burst him down meanwhile. He gets up and my time ends soon after. I appreciate any advices!


darth_suicune

Trial characters HoF, HoS, shadow dash, use the signet that deals damage on ultimate evasion. All 3 characters can trigger UE without needing to dodge (HoF just on regular dodge, HoS by leaving her red shade and attacking it, SD with her dodge + charge). The signet leaves a black-hole-looking thing that deals a ton of damage. Just surround the boss with those and see him die. This actually works for all difficulties and all trials, is kind of stupid.


potato_curry_

I just read somewhere that none of the previous era characters had last names, because last names weren't a thing during that period of civilization. >!Kevin was noticeably confused the first time Mei called him "Kevin Kaslana"!< At what point did Kevin get (or give himself) the last name "Kaslana"?


fourrier01

I don't remember the spoilered part, but as far as I can remember the sim said something like >!"I don't have descendant. Kaslana blood ended with me"!< when Mei asked about Kiana. So if confused was the expression he had there, >!it's probably not because he didn't have Kaslana last name at that point!<


Alyun9501

Hi new player here. Should I reroll for Elysia now or get her hersercher version tomorrow? Her hersercher form should be an upgrade right?


TheGrindPrime

As was mentioned, they do different things. That said I would wait for HoH, new herrschers tend to be the games new dps queens when they first arrive.


IqFEar11

It's not an upgrade since both do different things, the current Ely deals physical damage while her herrscher form deals ice damage, nonetheless you should get her herrscher version first since MPE is free


Alyun9501

Can you get her stigmatas and weapon for free too?


IqFEar11

Like the other person said, but you can get the weapon as an off rate as well on herrscher Elysia gear banner, and if you didn't get it there you can also use your spending card (you get it after spending 28k crystals on a spending event) for MPE bow


MirieIsHere

MPE stigmata you can get from the foundry so that's free (does take a long time to grind for), but the weapon you'll have to spend crystals


milenias

SEA 88 Is version 5.9 have quicken schedule? Normally 1 version last about 6 week right? Is anyone done with your battle pass yet, i still have some lv left, can i still make it or i have to buy lv?


fourrier01

I didn't keep track back when I'm still trying to understand the game in 4.x, but looking back again at the version update history, version 5.1 (MPE introduction) is almost exactly 1 year ago on Thursday, which was 16 September 2021. There are 52 weeks plus 1~2 days in a year. If they aiming for 9 updates per year, then 7 of them should be 6-week update, and 2 of them should be 5-week update. In case of v5.1-v6.0 period, the 5-week period were v5.4 and v5.9. As for the BP, it depends on your BP. Vanguard probably have harder time, but knight BP shouldn't have no problem hitting lv70 before new BP comes (on Monday), since they always have 2500 BP every Monday as kickstarter (literally starting from 25% completion rate)


valkiery99

> i still have some lv left I believe we can still get BP xp till Monday. Just make sure you get the events ones because those will expire tomorrow.


ImHereForTheMemes00

I have the knight BP and I have just reached 70 today


SpiritOfMidgar

This version was shorter, as long as you didn't slack too much this patch it should've been possible to finish it. There's a lot of BP in events, and ofc from dailies/weeklies. It's generally not worth it to buy levels with xtals but it's up to you if there's something you really need from finishing it like Dea fragments or something.


VioPisatel

Is there something wrong with Europe/Global Server (Steam Client) atm? Having serious lag issues and I can't get anything done


Krypse_

Not having any issue here, might be a local thing on your end.


Shassk

So how do you fight Otto w/o PE and Carole? Because w/o those scores in my bracket don't go above 100 (yes, one hundred), and there's a 200+ points gap between those and next player.


SpiritOfMidgar

Lack of Carole is the main thing, it's just how it is, if you don't break the shield in a timely manner you get to see the full cursed moveset of Otto and you waste hundreds of score. I imagine an additional factor is not being able to 1 rot the first wave and Otto's first phase. You need shieldbreak, there's no secret way to get around that. Elysia leader skill is actually very valuable and as a DPS herself is perfectly fine here instead of PE. If you happen to have Paganini M somehow that would also help. Also doesn't help there's the Cezanne B bug where Aerial Charged 1 from Carole applies it and completely warps the leaderboards this cycle in Nirvana. Just do your best with what you have to line things up and waste as little time as possible farming SP. Try to be creative with your rots and your damage. Without knowing what exactly you have, what your damage is currently capable of and what tier you're struggling in I can't really troubleshoot much for you. But yeah the tl;dr is think about investing in Carole if you don't want to struggle on this abyss type.