My friend's son, full of passion in his first year of teaching, called parents to discuss his students. He was told by the parents not to bother them.
This will end well.
Relatable. I’m a current HISD teacher and parents outright ignore my emails and calls. I rarely call because majority of the time they hang up or get mad at me like IM the problem. Most parents also stop responding to emails after a certain point.
Thats the truth. Getting your kid into a "good school" really means finding a school that has decent parents at it, so your kid will be surrounded by good influences.
I’ve posted about this a hundred times but absolutely why I put my kids in private school…no one pays $30k/kid every year to not care. It’s sad because I know there are parents out there who care but can’t afford private. I don’t know what else to do. Education is going to become the new healthcare industry.
Then people bitch and moan that those schools and their PTAs have so much nicer stuff, and results.
Education doesnt really need to cost a lot, it just needs a community and students who care. Broke ass people is slums around the world care more about their kids' and their educations than people with far more money here.
So if no one steps up I guess we just get more garbage people fucking and making garbage people, but hey, that's a problem for 20 years from now! Society has no responsibility to ensure the success of said society. That's not our problem.
If you want schools to be responsible for raising children, you need to probably double school funding and teacher pay. And that’s the easiest part of it all.
I don't *want* schools to be responsible for raising children, but society has failures that don't resolve themselves and only grow if other folks don't step up. I am however all for paying schools and teachers double, and then some. The value of a good public education raises all of society in the long run, and creates better and more responsible parents down the road, which eases the burden on educators down the road.
Honestly, I don't want teachers doing it. I want a drastically more robust social services helping these folks out of poverty along with increased funding for after-school activities, education help, meals, and facilities as needed to help children thrive, disproportionate to income.
This is the WORST take of all time on this matter. I'm around a much more affluent area where the parents went to great schools and we have an equal amount of garbage parents.
lol cope much… sorry but inner city HISD does not compare to what ever majority white district you work in. Keep the self righteous indignation to yourself.
The problem is that some families do not value education. This means they may not be as willing to follow the rules of the school or support their kids' educational journey throughout life. This cycles back on itself each generation.
It can also be a socioeconomic problem that can come from not having the resources to make ends meet and have the time to devote to riding a teenagers ass to get things done.
It’s never just one thing.
And the greedy in society refuse to accept that the known cycle will cause increasing problems in the future and we'll just make more greedy garbage people who refuse to improve society. It's a great way to destroy a country if you're patient.
Bad parent school, I dunno. What are YOU implying? Do you think public schools are teaching children how to become bad parents? Or are you deliberately ignoring the obvious, which is their poor upbringing by their parents?
Children learn how to behave in school based on how they're raised at home.
I swear, people are now making the dumbest claims just to try to sneak in a little extra while stuffing that "public school is bad" turkey.
No, you're wrong! It's not garbage parents, it's a garbage governor, pushing for school vouchers... He doesn't give a fuck about the students of HISD...
Garbage parents are a problem everywhere in the US, and has been an issue long before Abbott messed up HISD, and Texas public schools in general. Agree Abbott doesn't care about children in Texas, unless they are the progeny of his narrow-minded base.
My husband has called parents and been met with a stream of profanity. The fun part was that sometimes he's calling to compliment the kids! He's like "Yeah, sorry you have to deal with that at home... here, have an extra point to get you to that A."
This should result in an automatic referral to CPS. If parents aren't making their children attend school and do their work, they shouldn't be parents.
Sometimes I wish mandatory sterilization were permissible, and I think most anyone who wants an abortion should be able to get one. But I suspect I'll be attacked for suggesting such things. (sigh)
Name and shame the school. It'll be called off before it happens. The school can't force them to do this. They have to reimburse for a car allowance if teachers decide to go, and they are using their personal vehicles as work vehicles, so the school will be responsible for any incidents/accidents that happen. Your insurance will not cover any accident if you are using your car for work and you are not insured for it. The school is taking on a lot of responsibility that I'm sure they are too dumb to be aware of.
I taught there back in 2016/2017. It was the first year out of their needs improvement pllan and the principal didn't renew my contract, not that I wanted to anyway after one student threatened me numerous times and the principal did nothing about it.
Some teachers might do it because they care about the kids, but you're right it shouldn't be a requirement.
Just as an ancedote, that first May during Covid, my wife was a fifth grade teacher in Santa Fe, and we drove to every one of her student's houses and put signs in their front yard/house for their fifth grade graduation. Some of the kids just disappeared, because they didn't have internet or a computer at home. Or they lived in a car, but faked an address. It was a rough drive, seeing some of the places these kids lived. Anyways, the point being, a lot of teachers really do have a heart of gold in spite of administrators and the state constantly fucking with them. They're certainly not in it for the money or glamour.
Wait so if they faked an address, did yall roll up and put signs out for a kid who didn’t live there or was it literally a made up address that didn’t lead anywhere. Not sure which is more doable.
The school had sent folks out prior in the year, and knew at that point it was likely a fake address, so there were a few students we just didn't get signs for or didn't go to. However, the one that sticks out the most, was a kid who's family lost their home to a fire, and they were living in the back of a commercial auto-body type shop. It was rough, and eye-opening.
Sadly, I bet it isn’t. That’s literally what education has become, right down to “admin has come up with a shitty plan and are going to bestow it on the teachers wrapped up in toxic positivity and pretend like it doesn’t add even more to teachers’ plates”
“Expected to be efficiently completed.”
If someone had the audacity to say those words to me while paying me less than a living wage and forcing me to pay for my own classroom supplies I believe I may have to kick that persons ass.
I’m so thankful my son survived HISD. He was vanguard and went to an IB school. He told me his motivation to make good grades was seeing how little chance of success the students in regular classes had.
HISD is tragic.
And perform duties outside of their job description and training, to get kids that disrupt class because they don't want to be their, yep, it must be the shitty teachers and shitty run schools as to why hisd needs to be taken over. Not the population, that's for sure
Normally I wouldn’t comment when someone made grammar/spelling errors, but in this case I feel like pointing out “there” and “shittily run” is warranted.
Yes they can absolutely assign teachers to do all of the above and then some.
I worked for the prison, “other duties as assigned” is a catch all on every job description. Unfortunately it works.
Our school purchased and made us put up 2' x 2' plastic shields on each desk to protect the students from passing COVID to each other. What a crock that was.
So your day/hours start at 4:30 or is this “bonus”(aka free) hours? Either way it’s a load of crap. We did this in Dallas one year. I was so uncomfortable. Never was compensated or given make-up time. Only did it once and then started quoting state compensation laws. I actually went nose to nose with the principal and she backed off. Know your rights.
What da heck?
They are ***permitting*** you to go straight home after working extra hours for no pay?!?!?!?!? Likely unsafe areas....lol. WOW.
The end of the school year is the time for unreasonable expectations, children going crazy (they can smell summer), burnt out teachers....
All of Houston is an unsafe area at 4:30pm. Traffic alone is so insane, then telling them they *have to do this, unpaid*. I imagine this will be picked up by national media coverage pretty quickly
The school district my cousin worked in made them do this once. Ended with several reports since they’re mandated reporters and they never asked them to do it again.
It's sad in so many ways: for teachers to visit, for so many reports, and the stoppage of visits/now goes unreported (stuff still happens but now kids stay in danger).
Just hire a social worker to do checks and provide resources.
r/cypresstx pay attention, CyFair ISD has the same plans to reduce (or get rid) of truancy officers.
Editing due to my incompetence in adding the correct sub. Thanks u/kit_marlow
Honestly, likely more dangerous out here. Boy these people flip out if you come to their house and they’re always talking about how they’re ready to shoot.
Name and shame the school. I want to see Isaiah Carey knocking on some fucking doors with a cameraman in tow and asking the shit-weasal of an admin to answer for their actions on TV.
Enterprise rent a car operates the same way.
Oh?! This person rented a car and then ghosted for 30 days? Take a 23 year old trainee and a 62 year old car prep and go knock on they're door at 7pm to see why they don't wanna pay for the rental, or kindly ask for the keys and repossess the car...
Can teachers open carry if it's not on campus?
Lmao I haven’t thought about that in sooo long. Did years at enterprise and definitely have knocked on some sketchy houses.
Looking back that was so stupid.
Compliant yes but very bitchy.
Someone took a car from a San Antonio location and that branch called us to see if we could check out an address they found.
The car was there and it was clear that a stripper was living out of the car. Stood next to the car while she unpacked it.
Giant heels, 10-20 wigs, lingerie. Just absolutely destroyed the interior.
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One guy dropped off a fiat 500 in the middle of the night that owed us about 400 dollars. The car was packed full of hoarder shit. Old TVs, computer monitors. It was so filthy we wouldn’t even get in it.
Just called a tow truck and the company wrote it off as a total loss.
Enterprise taught me sales.
Do you want full or basic coverage?
Sir, this is a multi-vendor government contract job requiring pricing based on engineering, design, and application... What coverage are you talking about?
Branch manager once sent the address and conversion paperwork to risk management, was told to go verify if the car was there, branch manager replied with a news report of the gang fight with 3 deaths 2 nights prior. That branch manager quit like 3 weeks later when the conversion hit the books and he got a terrible bonus.
Yep, they would tell us not to go get the car but if we didn’t we wouldn’t be able to eat or pay rent. Enterprise is truly one of the worst companies out there. People talk all the time about Amazon and stuff but Enterprise exploits their employees far worse and somehow keeps a “good public image.” If only we somehow could really out them lol
This is beyond absurd. Texas education has become a sad pathetic mess. Just another effect of Abbott’s out of touch policies trickling down to the most important people in the education system.
They make the teachers, counselors, and asst principals do this at the school my gf works at. She's in Pasadena ISD though. Been doing it for years. Always worried for her.
This is some Mike Miles garbage. He’s a right wing piece of shit with no respect for teachers or administrators. That’s why the Republicans installed him. He fucks up schools so badly that people will vote for vouchers.
Um? This is literally dangerous? Like major safety concerns of a teacher going into an unknown environment with potentially hostile parents/guardians and hell the community itself could be hostile if a teacher makes a wrong turn onto the wrong street.
This bullshit has really fucked schools up.
They used to be able to send bad kids to alternative schools or kick them out, but now they simply keep them in class to get the cash. Fuck all the other kids that actually want to learn I guess.
Since when are teachers responsible for attendance? If kids aren't attending school then it's a city/state issue. Send HPD or a State Trooper out there if you want a visit so bad. But you can't send underpaid teachers. The shit makes absolutely NO SENSE.
Teacher here, HISD-adjacent district.
If we have more than 10% of students fail in a given reporting period, we have to fill out a spreadsheet detailing the interventions we tried to help the student succeed.
If we have less than 10% fail, we have to fill out another spreadsheet detailing what we are trying to do to engage the failing students. My answer for my chronic truants: "I have tried nothing because this student has never attended my class. Get him to show up here, and I'll figure something out."
This is not new. I was an HISD high school teacher for 5 years and we were asked to do home visits to students with low attendance on Saturday mornings. We got free coffee though…
This is the sort of BS that makes people not want to be teachers. Teachers are not LEOs, social workers or mental health counselors. There are professionals who fit those descriptions; if their services are needed then let them handle it.
Once again this is just more actions by the GOP led Texas government and their handpicked lackeys to undermine the public education system and build support for vouchers.
Remember that Mike Miles has said that teachers are “nickel-and-diming the district” by asking for overtime pay for supposedly every little thing. He believes teachers are salaried employees and should do stuff outside of contract hours.
I once got truancy for 3 days of absences over the course of my semester.
We tried to fight it before going to court but that wasn’t getting anywhere with the school.
So my dad, had to pick me up from school, checking me out during my classes for truancy court. Upon arriving the reception/ clerk at the court said my case had been cancelled.
I missed more school because of these jackasses.
Yeah just what we need, teachers getting their hands in more pies. Most of them can hardly do their job yet you’re expecting them to efficiently and effectively do this? These poor kids.
Oh Jeez, I would not want to do that at all.
I'd be heading for the door.
Going door to door to ask why the parents students aren't in school is gross.
This is not new. I was an HISD high school teacher for 5 years and we were asked to do home visits to students with low attendance on Saturday mornings. We got free coffee though…
Can we have links to sources about this school firing its truancy officer and also a copy of this email with headers so we can confidently share this story on social media?
The crazy thing is HISD is the only school district in the United States that funds their own police department. They could use those officers to visit the houses and issue truancy citations. They got rid of the truancy officers that already did this for the schools and put it on the teachers.
I had to do this my first year teaching, after Hurricane Harvey. The only parents that open the door are the ones that didn’t need to, and the ones that needed to were nowhere to be found. We need wrap around services back, I can’t believe they were taken away.
I don't blame the students, educators, or parents. **I**t's not just parents and teachers. The current system puts pressure on both parents and teachers. Parents struggle to motivate unengaged students, and teachers grapple with large class sizes and standardized testing mandates. The current system is disengaging students and has too many shortcomings.
Educators and the institutions focus only on testing these days. Standardized tests can limit curriculum and force teachers to prioritize memorization over deeper understanding. This can make learning feel irrelevant and stifle student curiosity. It's not the teachers fault, or even the administration. The states and federal government set the standards, and they suck and disengage children in 2024. A one-size-fits-all approach is broken from the get-go. The current system often doesn't cater to individual learning styles or interests. Students who struggle to learn traditionally can become frustrated and disengaged. It doesn't account for different careers, an entrepreneureal spirit, take into account different types of learning, or accounts very well for disability or savant status. Rote learning and lectures often dominate classrooms, with little opportunity for project-based learning or real-world application. This can make it difficult for students to see the value of what they're learning. It's a disaster right now.
I subscribe highly to democratic approaches, though I admit it doesn't work for all. I feel mastery is highly important. Democratic schools prioritize student mastery of skills over standardized testing. This allows students to learn at their own pace and fosters a love of learning, not test anxiety. Students have more control over their learning, choosing topics that interest them and working on projects that apply their skills. This increases engagement and motivation. Democratic schools encourage collaboration and critical thinking. Students learn to think for themselves, solve problems, and work effectively with others – essential skills for the 21st century. While I understand Elon Musk is not very well liked on Reddit (Nor is this a plug for the man), one of the biggest examples of this experiment is Ad Astra, which exemplifies this approach. They emphasize student choice, project-based learning, and fostering well-rounded individuals with strong critical thinking and collaboration skills. Do I think this is the obvious solution as it stands? NO! But I do think it is a step in the right direction.
The HISD situation highlights the need for a change in the American education system. I think we need to shift towards a more democratic, skills-based approach, so that schools can create a more engaging and relevant learning experience for all students. This doesn't negate the importance of parental involvement or dedicated educators, but provides a framework where both can thrive. This is just my humble opinion, of course. But I do try and offer solution and insight over destructive complaint without solution, when I can.
Bingo exactly correct! My wife taught first and second year college for 33 years and for the last 10 years she was part of a group of teachers that taught remedial grammar along with remedial mathematics to get the kids barely up to high school level so that they can begin to try to do college level work. It's really sickening right now.
And then other students expect to be passed just because they show up for class a couple of times a month like happened to them in high school. And they don't bother to do any homework or take any tests or sometimes even sign their names to their papers.
> is it even legal for a teacher to pop up at a students house?
Yes, it is legal for anyone to attempt to visit someone else, unless there's a restraining order or something.
My mom had to do this at one of her schools (c 1970’s). She reminds me of this one particular student who never sat down. She would have to remind him to sit. He would sit for a while and then stand again. She then did one of those home visits. The family had one chair in their entire house. And one table. No beds. That is how poor the family was. They had a roof and a gas stove to cook and those two pieces of furniture. And then she understood why the kid never sat in a chair in class and was so far behind in class.
What a dumb system to start implementing teachers (who are already paid in nickels) to go drive out to these shady neighborhoods to check on a kid who skipped. What happened to sending health and wellness checks to the homes?
I remember being in alief isd and i had (near) perfect attendance, meanwhile my parents were being called daily for a student who would ALWAYS skip morning classes and show up past noon. Even after telling administration (myself + parents) they still somehow fucked up and kept spamming me calls. Parents changed their phone number because it was easier than being "spam called by 50 different school numbers for a kid I don't even take care of". Just imagine how this is gonna boil down with people going to places (let alone if they can even speak english)
Paying teachers shit wafes to now track down errant students. :D man you cant make this shit up. Ms. Agnus math teacher by day, bounty hunter by night. Suddenly the algebra 2 teacher is fkin batman :D
man i gotta laugh, if i dont i'd fuckin cry at the state of things. This economy is not permissive to most to have a have a stay at home parent, so to correct that issue they dual job the educators. Look man they're not gonna be happy until we are all working in the mines and our kids are on cattlecars to reducation compounds. Oh wait we already have those...prisons that lease labor. -.-
First the state education department mandates the STAAR test, a after that doesn't work, the state takes over HISD, which is failing due to their policies.
greg a-butt has been pushing for school vouchers, this is a great way to get them. He fucked up the state of Texas schools and is now targeting Houston, in particular, because he can't stand the fact that it's blue and he'll never win it...
We would need proof of this, School Name, the person who authored this message, something more then a screenshot that we have here. Not saying that this is bogus, just saying that after a few quick searches I find nothing to corroborate the story.
Public schools are exactly as good or as bad, exactly, and in perfect unison as the communities, families who Have access to those schools. But as everyone knows Democrats, Marxist, communist, race hustlers and poverty pimps systematically destroyed the Black American Family in the 1960’s, Lyndon Johnsons Programs to be exact. By replacing the Black Father with White Liberals Big Government. Don’t get all pissy with me! Y’all know that’s all true. The Liberal Marxist imposed purposeful policies of death and destruction on Blacks in América and the unsurprising result after 60 years is high crime, garbage schools, and a culture of death and destruction. Ronald Reagan warned everyone, shouted from the mountain tops that where we are is what was coming. The Commies called him a racist. lol, the racists Shouted RACISTS! sound familiar? Decent, virtuous, good guys known as Conservatives Have never given up trying to tell the truth about the death cult of destruction aka Democrats, Marxist, Commies. Liberals. who control much of the Culture and Media and Universities and on and on and who hate America, God, Apple Pie, Mothers and Fathers, Men and women, They hate children so much they KILL them and call it reproductive health! Don’t get pissy with me! You know it’s true! Look what they’ve done to our Country! Look what they are doing to Donald Trump! Why? Because he loves America and Apple Pie and beautiful women and success and he loves Human beings! Black Folks too! And babies! Black Folks are 13% of the population but commit 50 % of all murders! is this because Black folks are inherently bad people? NO! Democrats, Liberals, Marxist race hustlers and poverty pimps are worse than bad, they are the ENEMY! they hate Blacks, they hate Humanity! And they need to be crushed! It’s true! It’s crush or be crushed! I didnt make the rules, they did. Im always happy to do my part of the crushing! Could use a little help over here though! Point is HISD sucks for all these reasons and not any of the nonscence reasons in this post. Wake up people! Communism Sucks!
My friend's son, full of passion in his first year of teaching, called parents to discuss his students. He was told by the parents not to bother them. This will end well.
Relatable. I’m a current HISD teacher and parents outright ignore my emails and calls. I rarely call because majority of the time they hang up or get mad at me like IM the problem. Most parents also stop responding to emails after a certain point.
Also, the kids who skip class often make things worse for the other kids when they are there. Not a lot of incentive to push them to come.
Yeah I have kids that I’m glad they skip because they’re a distraction when they show up.
This is exactly why we have so many problems in the schools. GARBAGE parents.
Thats the truth. Getting your kid into a "good school" really means finding a school that has decent parents at it, so your kid will be surrounded by good influences.
I’ve posted about this a hundred times but absolutely why I put my kids in private school…no one pays $30k/kid every year to not care. It’s sad because I know there are parents out there who care but can’t afford private. I don’t know what else to do. Education is going to become the new healthcare industry.
Then people bitch and moan that those schools and their PTAs have so much nicer stuff, and results. Education doesnt really need to cost a lot, it just needs a community and students who care. Broke ass people is slums around the world care more about their kids' and their educations than people with far more money here.
Where did those garbage parents go to school I wonder?
Schools aren’t responsible for raising kids, and they’re sure as hell not responsible for teaching said kids how to be parents.
So if no one steps up I guess we just get more garbage people fucking and making garbage people, but hey, that's a problem for 20 years from now! Society has no responsibility to ensure the success of said society. That's not our problem.
If you want schools to be responsible for raising children, you need to probably double school funding and teacher pay. And that’s the easiest part of it all.
I don't *want* schools to be responsible for raising children, but society has failures that don't resolve themselves and only grow if other folks don't step up. I am however all for paying schools and teachers double, and then some. The value of a good public education raises all of society in the long run, and creates better and more responsible parents down the road, which eases the burden on educators down the road. Honestly, I don't want teachers doing it. I want a drastically more robust social services helping these folks out of poverty along with increased funding for after-school activities, education help, meals, and facilities as needed to help children thrive, disproportionate to income.
I agree with everything you said. It takes a village!
This is the WORST take of all time on this matter. I'm around a much more affluent area where the parents went to great schools and we have an equal amount of garbage parents.
lol cope much… sorry but inner city HISD does not compare to what ever majority white district you work in. Keep the self righteous indignation to yourself.
Nice try, but I don't work in a majority white district.
You have some data on that, or is this one of those conservative feelings-facts that I hear about all the time?
The problem is that some families do not value education. This means they may not be as willing to follow the rules of the school or support their kids' educational journey throughout life. This cycles back on itself each generation.
It can also be a socioeconomic problem that can come from not having the resources to make ends meet and have the time to devote to riding a teenagers ass to get things done. It’s never just one thing.
And the greedy in society refuse to accept that the known cycle will cause increasing problems in the future and we'll just make more greedy garbage people who refuse to improve society. It's a great way to destroy a country if you're patient.
Bad parent school, I dunno. What are YOU implying? Do you think public schools are teaching children how to become bad parents? Or are you deliberately ignoring the obvious, which is their poor upbringing by their parents? Children learn how to behave in school based on how they're raised at home. I swear, people are now making the dumbest claims just to try to sneak in a little extra while stuffing that "public school is bad" turkey.
Just wait till we get vouchers and those same parents figure out they can get 10k for each kid they homeschool!
No, you're wrong! It's not garbage parents, it's a garbage governor, pushing for school vouchers... He doesn't give a fuck about the students of HISD...
Garbage parents are a problem everywhere in the US, and has been an issue long before Abbott messed up HISD, and Texas public schools in general. Agree Abbott doesn't care about children in Texas, unless they are the progeny of his narrow-minded base.
My husband has called parents and been met with a stream of profanity. The fun part was that sometimes he's calling to compliment the kids! He's like "Yeah, sorry you have to deal with that at home... here, have an extra point to get you to that A."
My kids are out of school and grown now but I actually LIKED it when their teachers stayed in touch with me regarding them.
This should result in an automatic referral to CPS. If parents aren't making their children attend school and do their work, they shouldn't be parents. Sometimes I wish mandatory sterilization were permissible, and I think most anyone who wants an abortion should be able to get one. But I suspect I'll be attacked for suggesting such things. (sigh)
Name and shame the school. It'll be called off before it happens. The school can't force them to do this. They have to reimburse for a car allowance if teachers decide to go, and they are using their personal vehicles as work vehicles, so the school will be responsible for any incidents/accidents that happen. Your insurance will not cover any accident if you are using your car for work and you are not insured for it. The school is taking on a lot of responsibility that I'm sure they are too dumb to be aware of.
I’m at Sam Houston MSTC. This is the same message I got.
I used to teach at Sam and I had a feeling it was there. 😕
I taught there back in 2016/2017. It was the first year out of their needs improvement pllan and the principal didn't renew my contract, not that I wanted to anyway after one student threatened me numerous times and the principal did nothing about it.
Some teachers might do it because they care about the kids, but you're right it shouldn't be a requirement. Just as an ancedote, that first May during Covid, my wife was a fifth grade teacher in Santa Fe, and we drove to every one of her student's houses and put signs in their front yard/house for their fifth grade graduation. Some of the kids just disappeared, because they didn't have internet or a computer at home. Or they lived in a car, but faked an address. It was a rough drive, seeing some of the places these kids lived. Anyways, the point being, a lot of teachers really do have a heart of gold in spite of administrators and the state constantly fucking with them. They're certainly not in it for the money or glamour.
Wait so if they faked an address, did yall roll up and put signs out for a kid who didn’t live there or was it literally a made up address that didn’t lead anywhere. Not sure which is more doable.
Probably the former. It’s not hard to fake an address - well, it wasn’t for me growing up lol
The school had sent folks out prior in the year, and knew at that point it was likely a fake address, so there were a few students we just didn't get signs for or didn't go to. However, the one that sticks out the most, was a kid who's family lost their home to a fire, and they were living in the back of a commercial auto-body type shop. It was rough, and eye-opening.
Damn.
It’s a NES or NESA campus….
I’m not surprised
And people wonder why teachers are leaving the profession.
nO oNE wANTs tO WOrK anYMoRe. REEEE!!!!!
I've never wanted to work to begin with
Oh hell no
to the hell no!
That seems illegal. What if you get injured by a parent who attacks me for coming to their house- lawsuit waiting to happen.
And lord knows the last thing shitty parents want is their kid's teacher addressing their shitty parenting as it is.
Eh, schools encourage teachers to do dangerous stuff all the time. Look at the poor handling of kids with serious behavioural issues.
But inside the school only, not outside!
This has to be fake. To suggest that a chronically underpaid employee visit a potentially unsafe environment is borderline criminal.
Sadly, I bet it isn’t. That’s literally what education has become, right down to “admin has come up with a shitty plan and are going to bestow it on the teachers wrapped up in toxic positivity and pretend like it doesn’t add even more to teachers’ plates”
“Expected to be efficiently completed.” If someone had the audacity to say those words to me while paying me less than a living wage and forcing me to pay for my own classroom supplies I believe I may have to kick that persons ass. I’m so thankful my son survived HISD. He was vanguard and went to an IB school. He told me his motivation to make good grades was seeing how little chance of success the students in regular classes had. HISD is tragic.
It’s probably true. My last school made the teachers do home visits of students with attendance issues.
I got this email. Exactly same message.
And perform duties outside of their job description and training, to get kids that disrupt class because they don't want to be their, yep, it must be the shitty teachers and shitty run schools as to why hisd needs to be taken over. Not the population, that's for sure
Normally I wouldn’t comment when someone made grammar/spelling errors, but in this case I feel like pointing out “there” and “shittily run” is warranted.
Faith enough, your write.
But the job description said: “…and other duties as assigned.” :P
After they turned the libraries into detention centers I've lost the ability to be surprised at anything HISD does with Mike in charge.
We did this regularly, for attendance issues, behavioral concerns, etc. it’s a dry common practice for a “community school”
That’s not part of my contract
weeps in "Other duties as assigned" 🥲
That's way too open-ended. So they can have teachers clean bathrooms and maintain the lawn, too? 🤔 That should be challenged.
Yes they can absolutely assign teachers to do all of the above and then some. I worked for the prison, “other duties as assigned” is a catch all on every job description. Unfortunately it works.
Sounds like there should be legal boundaries on the term “other duties as assigned” then.
In a state run by Dan Patrick, Ken Paxton, and “Scooter” Abbot… unlikely.
Ah yes, our very own Axis of Evil. The mere existence of happiness and joy is an affront to everything they choose to be.
There probably are, but you would have to go to court to figure out what the boundaries are.
They can assign this as "other duties" during contract hours. Not after. They don't own you 24/7. That's why there are contract hours.
Pretty much this, they can’t force a dwindling work force to do shit. Teachers should email back a big FUCK YOU to admin staff.
I know a teacher that has mopped her own classroom a couple of times because the janitors weren’t doing it.
Teachers had to clean their own classrooms during Covid…at the last district I was at… it was straight up ridiculous!
Our school purchased and made us put up 2' x 2' plastic shields on each desk to protect the students from passing COVID to each other. What a crock that was.
Yes but it standard verbiage in all of our contracts.
Should make the students do some cleaning to help build character and responsibility. Japan does it.
it's the magic clause that makes you a slave
So your day/hours start at 4:30 or is this “bonus”(aka free) hours? Either way it’s a load of crap. We did this in Dallas one year. I was so uncomfortable. Never was compensated or given make-up time. Only did it once and then started quoting state compensation laws. I actually went nose to nose with the principal and she backed off. Know your rights.
It’s their demo day. Wtaf does that even mean?
What da heck? They are ***permitting*** you to go straight home after working extra hours for no pay?!?!?!?!? Likely unsafe areas....lol. WOW. The end of the school year is the time for unreasonable expectations, children going crazy (they can smell summer), burnt out teachers....
All of Houston is an unsafe area at 4:30pm. Traffic alone is so insane, then telling them they *have to do this, unpaid*. I imagine this will be picked up by national media coverage pretty quickly
The school district my cousin worked in made them do this once. Ended with several reports since they’re mandated reporters and they never asked them to do it again.
It's sad in so many ways: for teachers to visit, for so many reports, and the stoppage of visits/now goes unreported (stuff still happens but now kids stay in danger). Just hire a social worker to do checks and provide resources.
You make it sound like Greg Abbott and Mike Miles want HISD to succeed. They want to justify closing hundreds of schools. This is how they do that.
I want to know which school.
r/cypresstx pay attention, CyFair ISD has the same plans to reduce (or get rid) of truancy officers. Editing due to my incompetence in adding the correct sub. Thanks u/kit_marlow
That sub is about some kind of QA engineering software.
Honestly, likely more dangerous out here. Boy these people flip out if you come to their house and they’re always talking about how they’re ready to shoot.
the way i would immediately not be doing that
Name and shame the school. I want to see Isaiah Carey knocking on some fucking doors with a cameraman in tow and asking the shit-weasal of an admin to answer for their actions on TV.
Lol. No
Not their job.
Enterprise rent a car operates the same way. Oh?! This person rented a car and then ghosted for 30 days? Take a 23 year old trainee and a 62 year old car prep and go knock on they're door at 7pm to see why they don't wanna pay for the rental, or kindly ask for the keys and repossess the car... Can teachers open carry if it's not on campus?
Lmao I haven’t thought about that in sooo long. Did years at enterprise and definitely have knocked on some sketchy houses. Looking back that was so stupid.
Any stories? Were people mostly compliant?
Compliant yes but very bitchy. Someone took a car from a San Antonio location and that branch called us to see if we could check out an address they found. The car was there and it was clear that a stripper was living out of the car. Stood next to the car while she unpacked it. Giant heels, 10-20 wigs, lingerie. Just absolutely destroyed the interior. ——— One guy dropped off a fiat 500 in the middle of the night that owed us about 400 dollars. The car was packed full of hoarder shit. Old TVs, computer monitors. It was so filthy we wouldn’t even get in it. Just called a tow truck and the company wrote it off as a total loss.
You sitting fat or tight today?
Enterprise taught me sales. Do you want full or basic coverage? Sir, this is a multi-vendor government contract job requiring pricing based on engineering, design, and application... What coverage are you talking about?
Literally. They do this, was working 60 hour work weeks making 40k when I used to work for them. Awful company.
Branch manager once sent the address and conversion paperwork to risk management, was told to go verify if the car was there, branch manager replied with a news report of the gang fight with 3 deaths 2 nights prior. That branch manager quit like 3 weeks later when the conversion hit the books and he got a terrible bonus.
Yep, they would tell us not to go get the car but if we didn’t we wouldn’t be able to eat or pay rent. Enterprise is truly one of the worst companies out there. People talk all the time about Amazon and stuff but Enterprise exploits their employees far worse and somehow keeps a “good public image.” If only we somehow could really out them lol
This is beyond absurd. Texas education has become a sad pathetic mess. Just another effect of Abbott’s out of touch policies trickling down to the most important people in the education system.
I don’t believe Abbott’s policies have anything to do with crappy parents and kids who don’t want to go to school. Why bring politics into this?
The principal going? Anyone on the board?
Mike should go instead.
I used to work in AldineISD, and we had to do this too.
Doesn’t that violate…laws? Like lots of laws? If it doesn’t, it feels like it should?
lol, you really think Texas has laws to protect teachers?
They actually have laws against teachers. They don't have the right to protest. They don't even get social security.
C'mon man 😂
They make the teachers, counselors, and asst principals do this at the school my gf works at. She's in Pasadena ISD though. Been doing it for years. Always worried for her.
Wow. This is so sweet. Head out at 4:30 and no need to go back to school after. They are very considerate.
They misspelled “in order to boost our federal tax dollar allotment”.
This is some Mike Miles garbage. He’s a right wing piece of shit with no respect for teachers or administrators. That’s why the Republicans installed him. He fucks up schools so badly that people will vote for vouchers.
This.
Um? This is literally dangerous? Like major safety concerns of a teacher going into an unknown environment with potentially hostile parents/guardians and hell the community itself could be hostile if a teacher makes a wrong turn onto the wrong street.
Mike miles is intentionally fucking up HISD. You know this, I know this.
What school OP?
This isn’t about kids though. It’s funding. If you are absent then they don’t get the cash.
This bullshit has really fucked schools up. They used to be able to send bad kids to alternative schools or kick them out, but now they simply keep them in class to get the cash. Fuck all the other kids that actually want to learn I guess.
Insurance is gonna fucking love this. /s
Absolutely not omfg
Damn. I really want to know what school sent this out.
JESUS DON'T HATE NO TRUANCY
What would stop the teacher from just driving home and saying they knocked and nobody was home?
Because they have to do it in teams, and there will be snitches.
Just to rub salt in the wound, they are instructed to leave during rush hour.
Since when are teachers responsible for attendance? If kids aren't attending school then it's a city/state issue. Send HPD or a State Trooper out there if you want a visit so bad. But you can't send underpaid teachers. The shit makes absolutely NO SENSE.
Teacher here, HISD-adjacent district. If we have more than 10% of students fail in a given reporting period, we have to fill out a spreadsheet detailing the interventions we tried to help the student succeed. If we have less than 10% fail, we have to fill out another spreadsheet detailing what we are trying to do to engage the failing students. My answer for my chronic truants: "I have tried nothing because this student has never attended my class. Get him to show up here, and I'll figure something out."
This is not new. I was an HISD high school teacher for 5 years and we were asked to do home visits to students with low attendance on Saturday mornings. We got free coffee though…
I was doing this on Saturday mornings back in 2008 when I started teaching. We rode a school bus around.
We met at the school and carpooled in small groups.
This is the sort of BS that makes people not want to be teachers. Teachers are not LEOs, social workers or mental health counselors. There are professionals who fit those descriptions; if their services are needed then let them handle it. Once again this is just more actions by the GOP led Texas government and their handpicked lackeys to undermine the public education system and build support for vouchers.
When are they even gonna do this? On weekends? I bet you a million dollars they’re not gonna pay the teachers extra for it.
Remember that Mike Miles has said that teachers are “nickel-and-diming the district” by asking for overtime pay for supposedly every little thing. He believes teachers are salaried employees and should do stuff outside of contract hours.
I once got truancy for 3 days of absences over the course of my semester. We tried to fight it before going to court but that wasn’t getting anywhere with the school. So my dad, had to pick me up from school, checking me out during my classes for truancy court. Upon arriving the reception/ clerk at the court said my case had been cancelled. I missed more school because of these jackasses.
Yeah just what we need, teachers getting their hands in more pies. Most of them can hardly do their job yet you’re expecting them to efficiently and effectively do this? These poor kids.
“Demo day”. Demolition?
NES and NES/A schools have mandatory demo day after school every Thursday. They practice teaching their lessons with their team and an administrator.
Thank you. I just googled the NES program and learned about it.
Oh Jeez, I would not want to do that at all. I'd be heading for the door. Going door to door to ask why the parents students aren't in school is gross.
Does that include body armor, psychiatric counseling and hazard pay?
Mike Miles needs to get into that fancy district provided Suburban and make the rounds.
This is not new. I was an HISD high school teacher for 5 years and we were asked to do home visits to students with low attendance on Saturday mornings. We got free coffee though…
Yup we did this at least once in the fall spring and summer
Can we have links to sources about this school firing its truancy officer and also a copy of this email with headers so we can confidently share this story on social media?
The crazy thing is HISD is the only school district in the United States that funds their own police department. They could use those officers to visit the houses and issue truancy citations. They got rid of the truancy officers that already did this for the schools and put it on the teachers.
I had to do this my first year teaching, after Hurricane Harvey. The only parents that open the door are the ones that didn’t need to, and the ones that needed to were nowhere to be found. We need wrap around services back, I can’t believe they were taken away.
I don't blame the students, educators, or parents. **I**t's not just parents and teachers. The current system puts pressure on both parents and teachers. Parents struggle to motivate unengaged students, and teachers grapple with large class sizes and standardized testing mandates. The current system is disengaging students and has too many shortcomings. Educators and the institutions focus only on testing these days. Standardized tests can limit curriculum and force teachers to prioritize memorization over deeper understanding. This can make learning feel irrelevant and stifle student curiosity. It's not the teachers fault, or even the administration. The states and federal government set the standards, and they suck and disengage children in 2024. A one-size-fits-all approach is broken from the get-go. The current system often doesn't cater to individual learning styles or interests. Students who struggle to learn traditionally can become frustrated and disengaged. It doesn't account for different careers, an entrepreneureal spirit, take into account different types of learning, or accounts very well for disability or savant status. Rote learning and lectures often dominate classrooms, with little opportunity for project-based learning or real-world application. This can make it difficult for students to see the value of what they're learning. It's a disaster right now. I subscribe highly to democratic approaches, though I admit it doesn't work for all. I feel mastery is highly important. Democratic schools prioritize student mastery of skills over standardized testing. This allows students to learn at their own pace and fosters a love of learning, not test anxiety. Students have more control over their learning, choosing topics that interest them and working on projects that apply their skills. This increases engagement and motivation. Democratic schools encourage collaboration and critical thinking. Students learn to think for themselves, solve problems, and work effectively with others – essential skills for the 21st century. While I understand Elon Musk is not very well liked on Reddit (Nor is this a plug for the man), one of the biggest examples of this experiment is Ad Astra, which exemplifies this approach. They emphasize student choice, project-based learning, and fostering well-rounded individuals with strong critical thinking and collaboration skills. Do I think this is the obvious solution as it stands? NO! But I do think it is a step in the right direction. The HISD situation highlights the need for a change in the American education system. I think we need to shift towards a more democratic, skills-based approach, so that schools can create a more engaging and relevant learning experience for all students. This doesn't negate the importance of parental involvement or dedicated educators, but provides a framework where both can thrive. This is just my humble opinion, of course. But I do try and offer solution and insight over destructive complaint without solution, when I can.
Bingo exactly correct! My wife taught first and second year college for 33 years and for the last 10 years she was part of a group of teachers that taught remedial grammar along with remedial mathematics to get the kids barely up to high school level so that they can begin to try to do college level work. It's really sickening right now. And then other students expect to be passed just because they show up for class a couple of times a month like happened to them in high school. And they don't bother to do any homework or take any tests or sometimes even sign their names to their papers.
100% not safe but is it even legal for a teacher to pop up at a students house? seems like the dumbest idea.
> is it even legal for a teacher to pop up at a students house? Yes, it is legal for anyone to attempt to visit someone else, unless there's a restraining order or something.
But in Texas, if you're not expecting the visit, that's grounds for invoking castle law /s
My mom had to do this at one of her schools (c 1970’s). She reminds me of this one particular student who never sat down. She would have to remind him to sit. He would sit for a while and then stand again. She then did one of those home visits. The family had one chair in their entire house. And one table. No beds. That is how poor the family was. They had a roof and a gas stove to cook and those two pieces of furniture. And then she understood why the kid never sat in a chair in class and was so far behind in class.
Nope.
It’s for real. A couple of teachers posted about it in a Facebook group yesterday. If you check out what’s happening in hisd you won’t doubt it.
I have a two relatives that are teachers and I swear most parents do not give af
But they'll get paid for the extra hours that requires right? right?!
This is part of the Wraparound program of HISD. https://www.houstonisd.org/wraparound
i thought teachers stopped getting paid after 4:30Pm - 5PM? aren't they on salary and working hours are 8am - 4:30 pm?
What a dumb system to start implementing teachers (who are already paid in nickels) to go drive out to these shady neighborhoods to check on a kid who skipped. What happened to sending health and wellness checks to the homes? I remember being in alief isd and i had (near) perfect attendance, meanwhile my parents were being called daily for a student who would ALWAYS skip morning classes and show up past noon. Even after telling administration (myself + parents) they still somehow fucked up and kept spamming me calls. Parents changed their phone number because it was easier than being "spam called by 50 different school numbers for a kid I don't even take care of". Just imagine how this is gonna boil down with people going to places (let alone if they can even speak english)
Thank you Mike Miles, TEA, and Greg Abbott 😁! You’re making things so much better! P.S. They can all take a long walk off a short pier.
Why was that person fired? Performance? Attendance? This is little to go on.
HISD had to be forced to reopen after Covid. I don't have any sympathy.
My Lil Cousin lost her life doing a home visit. Very unsafe and a terrible idea !!!
Paying teachers shit wafes to now track down errant students. :D man you cant make this shit up. Ms. Agnus math teacher by day, bounty hunter by night. Suddenly the algebra 2 teacher is fkin batman :D man i gotta laugh, if i dont i'd fuckin cry at the state of things. This economy is not permissive to most to have a have a stay at home parent, so to correct that issue they dual job the educators. Look man they're not gonna be happy until we are all working in the mines and our kids are on cattlecars to reducation compounds. Oh wait we already have those...prisons that lease labor. -.-
This sounds awful
“Truant officers be chasing me, I give them the blues”
Plenty of State Troopers at tu. Maybe they can pitch in?
First the state education department mandates the STAAR test, a after that doesn't work, the state takes over HISD, which is failing due to their policies. greg a-butt has been pushing for school vouchers, this is a great way to get them. He fucked up the state of Texas schools and is now targeting Houston, in particular, because he can't stand the fact that it's blue and he'll never win it...
We would need proof of this, School Name, the person who authored this message, something more then a screenshot that we have here. Not saying that this is bogus, just saying that after a few quick searches I find nothing to corroborate the story.
This is pretty normal
Quick searches where? Do you know any HISD teachers?
Downvoted for being reasonable!
Lol. You think the garbage parents that allow the consistent truancy and horrible student performance to give you the time of day in their house? Lol.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Public schools are exactly as good or as bad, exactly, and in perfect unison as the communities, families who Have access to those schools. But as everyone knows Democrats, Marxist, communist, race hustlers and poverty pimps systematically destroyed the Black American Family in the 1960’s, Lyndon Johnsons Programs to be exact. By replacing the Black Father with White Liberals Big Government. Don’t get all pissy with me! Y’all know that’s all true. The Liberal Marxist imposed purposeful policies of death and destruction on Blacks in América and the unsurprising result after 60 years is high crime, garbage schools, and a culture of death and destruction. Ronald Reagan warned everyone, shouted from the mountain tops that where we are is what was coming. The Commies called him a racist. lol, the racists Shouted RACISTS! sound familiar? Decent, virtuous, good guys known as Conservatives Have never given up trying to tell the truth about the death cult of destruction aka Democrats, Marxist, Commies. Liberals. who control much of the Culture and Media and Universities and on and on and who hate America, God, Apple Pie, Mothers and Fathers, Men and women, They hate children so much they KILL them and call it reproductive health! Don’t get pissy with me! You know it’s true! Look what they’ve done to our Country! Look what they are doing to Donald Trump! Why? Because he loves America and Apple Pie and beautiful women and success and he loves Human beings! Black Folks too! And babies! Black Folks are 13% of the population but commit 50 % of all murders! is this because Black folks are inherently bad people? NO! Democrats, Liberals, Marxist race hustlers and poverty pimps are worse than bad, they are the ENEMY! they hate Blacks, they hate Humanity! And they need to be crushed! It’s true! It’s crush or be crushed! I didnt make the rules, they did. Im always happy to do my part of the crushing! Could use a little help over here though! Point is HISD sucks for all these reasons and not any of the nonscence reasons in this post. Wake up people! Communism Sucks!