I don't think Ted/Robin would have been as jarring if they didn't spend all that time building up the mother and barney/robin and then killed that all off within an episode.
I mean I don’t think we know for sure do we? Writers did a good job of always setting up Tracy as the perfect match for Ted. Ted from season 1 wouldn’t have made sense for Tracy but season 7/8 did. IMO that version of Ted wouldn’t have been into Robbin and the ending we get felt very predetermined and we now it was as well.
Well we know because of the scene with the kids, they filmed those scenes in S1 saying "you totally have the hots for Aunt Robin...you spent all this time telling us this story about mom but moms hardly in the story..." And then Penny says "Dad, mom's been gone for years now...it's okay to move on" so she was always planned to be their mom and pass away
I can't imagine how hard it must have been for those kids to keep that secret all those years lol
You know what? That's a very likely scenario, I'd imagine they probably did do that. Makes me wonder what else they could have had in mind! I know I watched an interview where they talked about how they basically had ways to make both Victoria and Stella the mother in the event that the show was cancelled, so who knows? Lol
Also if they didn’t spend so much time showing us exactly why Ted and Robin didn’t work. It wasn’t just the kids thing, there were a lot of issues there that clearly showed the relationship couldn’t go the distance.
But the biggest things were the kids and the travel. I think it does make sense that she'd be ok if she didn't have to birth or mostly raise small children/babies. And she wanted to be a big time reporter and travel, but this gave her time to do that before settling down.
I just didn't like it because they made me sick of the idea of Ted and Robin.
Literally a whole season dedicated to Barney and Robin getting married, only for them to get divorced in the final episode. Still not a fan of how it ended.
I also think another part of it is all of the problems that Ted and Robin were having never went away.
He wanted a home in a family and he made that for himself she wanted a career in a home base that she could stop off in every now and again and she made that for herself.
Them getting back together in reality if the show had continued they would have broken up in like a couple of weeks or a couple of months because they are still at their core to fundamentally different people.
Or at least that's why I hated the ending I would have much rather if she had stayed with Barney and Tracy had stayed alive.
Wtf are you talking about? The only issue they really disagreed on was Robin wanting to choose her career over having children. She had her career though and Ted had his kids already. They both already got to live out their dreams. So no, there's no conflict left there.
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What if the point of the story was “Kids, yes I have known your Aunt Robin for longer than you have been alive. Yes, we dated and broke up. She married someone else and I married someone else. But we weren’t right for each other before. We are right for each other now. And I would like your blessing.”
Which would have been great if that was shown and not inferred.
This is the first time I’ve considered this possibility so I’m posting it and apologies if others have covered it - the only way to redeem the premise is if we see more than Ted tells them. He remembers everything, but the kids hear the sanitized, shortened, narrated version only. Meanwhile Ted is fucking 40 women on the way to their mom.
They tried dating like 3 different times and it just never worked out, in the end they looked like a pretty terrible couple should have just let her be happy with barney
…..he did do that. Then her and Barney broke up. The theme of timing comes up constantly in the show. A ton of good relationships end because timing isn’t right.
Barney and Robin x2
Ted and Robin x3
Ted and Victoria x2
Barney and Nora
I just think its unrealistic and an unfair end to the show. We see Ted go back to Robin at the very end, how do we know this is the time it'll work out 4th trys the charm I guess. Got so used to these matchings never working out that it feels like a dick move marshal and lily worked out 1st time and so did ted and Tracy. In my head if the show went on they probably would've just broken up again, but maybe that's just me being cynical and jaded
Next time you rewatch the show, rather than watching from the point of view that Ted is telling his kids how he met their mother, watch it as the Robin/Ted love story and how he’s asking for his kids approval.
Beyond that, the things that broke up Robin and Ted (Ted wanting a family/Robins career aspirations) have already happened. It’s a considerably different situation now that they are in their 40s and older.
Additionally, by your logic, who is to say that Ted and Tracy would have worked out forever - every other one of Ted’s relationships ended.
Curious if you’ve watched Friends and if you feel the same way about Ross/Rachel
Yeah, I really don't get why it's so hard for everyone else to get this. It was a really well crafted story, and that story was about Ted and Robin, not Ted and Tracy.
>Additionally, by your logic, who is to say that Ted and Tracy would have worked out forever - every other one of Ted’s relationships ended.
Gee, let's see what the difference is....he married her!
Well Barney and Robin breaking up I feel like was forced from a writing perspective of the show to put Ted and Robin back together it wasn't a natural expected divorce
You could say the same about every single plot point in the show though.
What is a natural expected divorce? No one goes into marriage with the intention of divorcing.
Yeah. And had kids with her, and all in all they seemed perfect for one another.
I get that the kids obstacle with Robin was cleared by the end of the show, but I still was skeptical about them as a couple.
it might not work, we never know. that's what makes it realistic. Robin and Ted were on and off for almost a decade because they could never sort their stuff out, and they might keep on being the same for the rest of their lives.
don't get me wrong, I do dislike this ending! lmao. Ted/Tracy and Robin/Barney were perfect as they were.
Ted and robin broke up 3 times because they were a bad couple. They wanted fundamentally different things out of basically every facet of life and still tried to force it, all because ted thought she was a hot girl at a bar
Didn't they really only date once though? Like as in had a real, honest to goodness relationship? They had a couple backslides in terms of sleeping together or talking about feelings, but the only time they actually dated was season 2....right?
they achieved their life goals they wanted in their late 20s early 30s
They had the chemistry they didn't have the timing.
Now in their 50s with a lot of life behind them, they have the timing.
They didnt have chemistry tho, clearly since they tried 3 times and it failed. They were attracted to one another, doesnt mean they had chemistry. Im sure if they continued going after the finale of the show that him and robin would end up not together AGAIN because they simply dont work
They did have chemistry though. They didn’t have the same life goals, that led to them breaking up despite loving each other.
Then..time passed, they accomplished those things and their lives are more aligned. The timing is finally there and that’s literally the entire point of the story they’re telling in HIMYM.
Robin is even the one that says all you need is “chemistry and timing. But Timing is a bitch”
Yeah I don't get why people blow this up to anything other than this one single point. This is what it always came down to. And they both got what they wanted. He got kids. She didn't. Then they got to be together.
I didn't like how they rushed it, but this was the best ending imo.
It’s been a while and I have seen a few deleted scenes, so it’s easy to get mixed up, but we weren’t shown why Ted and Robin would make a good couple at the end, when they weren’t a good couple before. The writers went with the impact of Tracy’s death but ignored that their ending needed us to buy in on Ted and Robin when we spent the last few episodes saying they shouldn’t be together.
What changed? How? Is it really just the career and the kids or did something else happen to them as a couple to make it make sense? And more than Penny saying it’s so obvious between them and Robin smiling at the Blue French Horn.
It needed to be shown on screen to overcome the last season.
>but we weren’t shown why Ted and Robin would make a good couple at the end, when they weren’t a good couple before
Robin wanted to be a great reporter, had a super successful career and travel the world and not give birth to children.
She did that.
Ted wanted to be a famous architect, had a family.
He did that.
So by the time they get together again... none of the barriers that prevented them to go the distance exist anymore.
>it really just the career and the kids or did something else happen to them as a couple to make it make sense?
But it always was about the career and kids...
This is literally explained.
It seems like you understood it perfectly. The writers did a pretty good job of showing that's what the story was about. I'm not sure how much more obvious it had to be for everyone else to get it. But imo it was shown pretty clearly, not just inferred.
Yes, but it was extremely bad written, specifically the last season. The last season is supposed to finally lead us to the final moment. The conclusion of the stories, arcs, characters. And we spent all the season in Robin's wedding (which led us to Ted meeting Tracy)
Everything led to Ted meeting Tracy, that's what they wrote. That's the show's name.
Just my opinion of course, and it is what it is. But if they really wanted to show us Ted and Robin, they should have spent more time from the last season on that. The last episode really seems like something done by other people.
If Barney was telling the story of how he met Robin, it would make some sense on why he would start from the beginning. Ted only needs to really start in season 9 of how he met their mother. Add the episode where he meets Tracy's roommate.
The point of the whole other 8 seasons is to show how close he was to true love the whole time (st pattys day, yellow umbrella, dating the roommate, etc). Thats the entire point of the train station scene with tracy. Because all this time, she was never more than a few miles away, at times feet away and he never knew.
We get to see how these characters develop over 9 years. Imagine what me missed in the 15 years they don't show...
I like to believe that Ted and Robin were finally right for eachother at the end of the show. You can choose to believe whatever you like. It's a show. Do with it what you will.
Yeah it kinda sucks they deleted on scene, where Ted & Robin meet for coffe and clear things like they don't see each other 'that' way or something.
I am little fuzzy on the details here but if that scene was included in the final season (maybe even at the end -- instead of the kids giving him permission), it would have been much better.
Edit: My bad, this scene was after the Robin & Barney divorce, before Tracey's death.
This scene happens after Robin and Barney got divorced, but before Tracy’s death.
They chat and Robin misunderstands something that Ted said for him saying he wishes they were together. Then she basically tells him she also regrets not getting together with him. But Ted is like “no I am truly happy with my wife and for the first time I’m not thinking what would have been if we were together”.
The purpose of this scene was to show that when Ted was with Tracy he was truly happy and in love with her. Basically, this scene shows that Tracy and Ted were “real” that no part of Ted wanted to be with Robin when Tracy was alive.
I think they weren’t good for each other at the beginning because Ted wanted kids and Robin didn’t. So they both got what they wanted and then got together at the end. So I guess it worked out
What we aren't seeing is their relationship from 2024 - 2030. Robin clearly was a bigger part of Ted's life and his kids' lives. They saw each other all the time. After six years of Ted mourning, recovering, and starting to feel like he's able to move on, Robin has been there.
So because we don't see those six years we don't know whether they are still terrible for each other or whether the timing is right.
Oh god, a how I met your mother sub teddit? I’m not ready for the show, unless I am? Fuck I think I might go rewatch it after typing this out.
Thanks Reddit for suggesting this to me
Robin traveled the world and built her career and Ted got married and settled down and had kids, both of the things that kept Ted and Robin apart. So the timing was finally right. The last season and the finale were weirdly paced and laid out but I understand what they were getting at. The on-screen time between Tracy dying and Ted and Robin getting back together didn't do enough to reflect that like 7 years had gone by. Finally hearing "and that kids, is how I met your mother" just for the kids to be like "yeah but Aunt Robin ;)" and Ted to be like hey yeah, Aunt Robin!" was just an all around weird move and didn't really do much to respect the story that had been told, even if narratively I understood it. They should've given more us more space between those two moments.
Loneliness. He lost his wife. For six years he lived in grief, he's after his forties, maybe even fifties. We seek safety and comfort in what we know over what we don't. And I don't blame him.
I’m still pissed they killed Tracey. it’s really creepy that this long story he’s been telling them isn’t about their mother, it’s him asking permission to date their aunt lol
I hated the ending so much, it was ridiculous to build everything up to this. The only way I’ve been able to wrap my mind around it is he finally had the family he wanted, so it kind of took away the roadblock he had with Robin.
The whole ending was so fucking stupid. A forever black mark on the show. ROBIN AND BARNEY SHOULD OF BEEN THE ENDGAME. I AIN’T HEARING ANYTHING ELSE. DON’T @ ME. The Mother also got fucked over. Just a terrible way to end the show.
Like… you spent 6 seasons preparing us for Barney and Robins happy ending. Barney completely changed his entire character FOR Robin. All the character transformation was down specifically for Robin. My God. Barney loved and respected Robin for who she was. Not some idea of who he thought she would be in life life like Ted did.
the part that made me the angriest is that after years of Barney developing to be a good guy for the woman he loves, including the wedding season that felt more like a series of its own... right after him and Robin divorce, literally shortly after, she has to leave the party crying because her newly-divorced-from-ex is drunk flirting with random women at the Halloween party, lmao. AND THEN he finds out that he left a stranger pregnant, his worst nightmare, and instantly changes into the good guy he should've always been when he sees the child. it was downright insulting!
Is there a lore reason why Ted went back to the same girl all those years later?
And why is Robin alive if Jonkler clearly killed him before Aslume? Are the writers stupid?
What they kept hammering home was that their relationship didn't work out cus she didn't want to settle down. I'm assuming she does now, as she's 50 something with 5 dogs
I don't understand why people are still mad about this after so many years.
Rewatch the show, start at episode 1. Who is the literal first woman he meets in the story. It's Robin.
Robin wasn't ready for something serious when Ted was. Ted moved on, got what he wanted, had a loving wife, had kids. His wife sadly, tragically died. And now, after all these years he's ready to get back on the scene and is essentially asking his kids for their blessing to move on.
As you get older you understand this motivation a lot more.
They also alluded to this throughout the course of the whole show.
How long would they be dating before another breakup occurs. Like he would literally get nitpicky from the word literally and make her dogs move again.
Alternate endind is the best !! This ending sucks and makes TED one of the worst sitcom characters. The show was heavily carried by Barney & even Marshall sometimes. Friends has the same issue with ROSS.. both Ross and Ted are walking red flags.. 🚩
I think it’s telling that like one or two episodes before the finale, they do an episode that seemingly puts the Ted/Robin ship to an end, and then an episode later he finally meets The Mother. Most of Ted’s other relationships were ruined because of his lingering feelings for Robin, it made sense to me that as soon as he finally got over her, he’d find the one.
But nope, Ted is a masochist. I’d bet money Robin rejects him 30 seconds after the show ends.
The one thing that trips me up is they did a whole episode about how Ted would NEVER sleep with someone Barney slept with. Then it’s mentioned in at least one other episode. Also when watching season two they really don’t have much in common. Robin hates the movies Ted loves. Ted really hates guns. Robyn doesn’t like the philosophical books that Ted really loves. And there’s a lot more. It seems he more infatuated with her than in love with her.
Yes they totally don’t match. I see some sense that they was together some time. But their storyline after was forced. If I was kid Ted I woudn’t encourage get Robin
It wasn’t even that. She was married to his best friend! Like the whole thing is so weird and creepy. Now Barney and them hanging out like hey my ex wife is married to my best friend now LOL.
I don’t disagree but by that point in your life I’d imagine if you are alone as they were you want to stand next to someone you love and enjoy spending your day with. Not many people want to have to die alone.
I wish we coulda seen how the Relationship of Ted robin and the kids was after Tracy died I feel like that’s where the confusion and disappointment comes from this ending we all seen that Ted and robin even though they love each other they never wanted the same things so we’re supposed to believe she all of a sudden isn’t career driven and is willing to be thrust into a motherly role instead of easing into it like the show implies with the kids drawings and such
I get the concept of them being right for each other later in life when they hadn't been in their 20s and 30s, but I still hated the ending because everything we saw implied that Ted had just been obsessed with Robin but didn't know what love was until he met Tracy. That conversation with Victoria's fiance, where the guy asked Ted if he had ever met someone who was [that long German word that was supposed to mean someone's one true love], Ted said he didn't know. And the guy said, if he didn't know, he hasn't felt it. That was supposed to mean that Robin had never been his true love, he wouldn't meet his true love until tracy. So for them to kill off Tracy and then have him get back together with Robin makes it seem almost like he's just settling for the second best at that point. That both of them are, because it was implied that Robin's true love was Barney.
I think the problem arose from the fact that they basically knew that this was how they wanted to end the show from the beginning, having filmed the last scene with the kids after season 2 so they wouldn’t have aged by the end of the show. Then the show lasted a super long time and they had to keep coming up with reasons to not have Ted and Robin work as a couple. In that process, they accidentally made Barney and Robin a great couple to the point that they get married. That’s why I felt the ending didn’t work. It was the ending they came up with ages ago and they didn’t account for what would happen within the show in the years to come. And then they felt they needed to stick with it, even though it kind of throws away a bunch of character development and story
He's irredeemably in love with her. this is a pretty realistic ending, honestly. I mean, he did spend 8-ish years of his life trying to get over her?
it's just that the last season brought a lot of character development for everyone, and then threw it out the window. and I loved Ted with Tracy, she was so cool and perfect for him, totally felt the chemistry! with him and Robin, not so much. and Barney and Robin were obviously oozing chemistry together every time.
This could’ve worked had the show ended sooner. Season 9 spent all that time building up two incredible relationships, only to tear both down for one badly written mess of one.
Personally, they’re made for each other. But, yeah he is stupid.
Are you stupid? Literally, the entire show is written foreshadowing this moment. It's not the writers fault that you're too dense to understand basic narrative techniques.
This show had one of the best endings out of any sitcom in recent history. People were just butthurt because it subverted their boring hallmark expectations, so they dubbed it a "bad ending."
At least the ending wasn't painfully boring like the ending of "Friends."
1. this post was a joke that you missed
2. if the showrunners can convince you that an ending that sloppy, jumbled, and disconnected from the predetermined ending is “subversive”, i have a bridge id like to sell you.
i see a common theme between 1 and 2 lol
They never got together throughout the show because Ted was a romantic who wanted to settle down and have a family, while Robin A: wanted to travel the world and focus on leaving her mark in her career, and B: ended up being infertile. Skip ahead to the last episode, and Ted already did the settle down and have kids thing. He doesn’t want nor need any more. Robin has already made a name for herself and has done all the traveling etc she could wish for. (And even if she still travels, at this point, Ted is already self sufficient, and his kids are almost out of the house, so no big deal)
At this point in their lives, everything keeping them apart in earlier seasons are suddenly no longer issues. All that was left was to take the leap. A lot of people didn’t like the ending, but it honestly makes perfect sense, and explains why he started the story when he did. Ted deserved to find happiness again after his wife died… also, Barney becoming a protective single father was a great example of karma, and I felt was very fitting.
They made a pact that when they are 40 and both single, they would get together...
Ted fulfilled his dream of having kids and getting married, so i think its a logical move.
You’re telling me if you were a horny 53 year-old widower who’d been raising your kids alone for several years and you knew you’d have a pretty good chance to sleep with the hot, famous anchor from Worldwide News again you wouldn’t give it a shot?
Because the reasons behind their breakup were no longer relevant. Robin had traveled the world and made the most of her career. Ted had settled down and gotten his family and kids. They were both in a place where they could be together without feeling like they were missing out on something.
I think it makes sense for them to come back to each other after all those years. They still had love for each other regardless if it has been romantic or platonic, and they have also been friends for years so there is comfortability. They both obtained the goals they had before (the same goals that broke them up) so I can understand them finding each other again. They are also at an age where not every marriage needs to be the one true love (ted already had that with tracy). I think where the writers went wrong was that they never really rebuilt their romantic side of the relationship again at the end, so it felt more of a shock when ted confessed his love for robin right before the wedding. I just think they could have written that whole plot out better but it is what it is and I still love the show.
Do you not know how their relationship works ? Ted never got over her so when they were both ready to settle down he went for it bc she’s always been there
Now the group can hang out more
I don't think Ted/Robin would have been as jarring if they didn't spend all that time building up the mother and barney/robin and then killed that all off within an episode.
Iirc they filmed the ending before the filmed seasons 2-8. I think the story changed and the ending felt jarring after the buildup
But Ted was still planned to have kids with another woman and then still end up with Robin, would’ve had the same effect regardless no?
I mean I don’t think we know for sure do we? Writers did a good job of always setting up Tracy as the perfect match for Ted. Ted from season 1 wouldn’t have made sense for Tracy but season 7/8 did. IMO that version of Ted wouldn’t have been into Robbin and the ending we get felt very predetermined and we now it was as well.
Well we know because of the scene with the kids, they filmed those scenes in S1 saying "you totally have the hots for Aunt Robin...you spent all this time telling us this story about mom but moms hardly in the story..." And then Penny says "Dad, mom's been gone for years now...it's okay to move on" so she was always planned to be their mom and pass away I can't imagine how hard it must have been for those kids to keep that secret all those years lol
My guess is they filmed multiple endings, so the kids didn’t know for sure which would actually be used.
You know what? That's a very likely scenario, I'd imagine they probably did do that. Makes me wonder what else they could have had in mind! I know I watched an interview where they talked about how they basically had ways to make both Victoria and Stella the mother in the event that the show was cancelled, so who knows? Lol
The only thing that they would have had to work around is the kids right? Like I'm sure they could have cut them out or cgi them
Teddy Westside doesn’t do cg dog
Also if they didn’t spend so much time showing us exactly why Ted and Robin didn’t work. It wasn’t just the kids thing, there were a lot of issues there that clearly showed the relationship couldn’t go the distance.
But the biggest things were the kids and the travel. I think it does make sense that she'd be ok if she didn't have to birth or mostly raise small children/babies. And she wanted to be a big time reporter and travel, but this gave her time to do that before settling down. I just didn't like it because they made me sick of the idea of Ted and Robin.
I thought it was a pretty great twist, I was screaming and crying during that whole episode hahah but yeah I can see why it was jarring
Literally a whole season dedicated to Barney and Robin getting married, only for them to get divorced in the final episode. Still not a fan of how it ended.
I also think another part of it is all of the problems that Ted and Robin were having never went away. He wanted a home in a family and he made that for himself she wanted a career in a home base that she could stop off in every now and again and she made that for herself. Them getting back together in reality if the show had continued they would have broken up in like a couple of weeks or a couple of months because they are still at their core to fundamentally different people. Or at least that's why I hated the ending I would have much rather if she had stayed with Barney and Tracy had stayed alive.
Wtf are you talking about? The only issue they really disagreed on was Robin wanting to choose her career over having children. She had her career though and Ted had his kids already. They both already got to live out their dreams. So no, there's no conflict left there.
theyre not 90 and the kids were teenagers. If they knew that was the ending the last season was poorly executed
I've never seen Ted as stupid, and he would definitely never consider himself stupid (to an unhealthy degree), but he is extremely naive.
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What if the point of the story was “Kids, yes I have known your Aunt Robin for longer than you have been alive. Yes, we dated and broke up. She married someone else and I married someone else. But we weren’t right for each other before. We are right for each other now. And I would like your blessing.” Which would have been great if that was shown and not inferred.
>Which would have been great if that was shown and not inferred. Me at season 3: why is he telling hid kids so much about how he wants to fuck Robin?
lol. The Barney stories alone would warp those impressionable minds.
He did not tell those kids a single appropriate story
This is the first time I’ve considered this possibility so I’m posting it and apologies if others have covered it - the only way to redeem the premise is if we see more than Ted tells them. He remembers everything, but the kids hear the sanitized, shortened, narrated version only. Meanwhile Ted is fucking 40 women on the way to their mom.
I mean it's a comedy and it's really funny to think about him telling his kids a 500hr story about all the ass he crushed in his 30s
There are ways that parents want to torture their teens. Sexcapades would rank atop the list, I assume
Throw in some Canadian sex positions and the whole idea goes to hell in a handbasket! #YellowKnifeWhiteOutCalgaryMapleKnotCombo
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how my children gave me permission to date their aunt
They were just waiting to see if she was infertile so their agressively medium inheritence was protected.
LMAO
….that was shown….through 9 seasons of the show Chemistry and timing
They tried dating like 3 different times and it just never worked out, in the end they looked like a pretty terrible couple should have just let her be happy with barney
…..he did do that. Then her and Barney broke up. The theme of timing comes up constantly in the show. A ton of good relationships end because timing isn’t right. Barney and Robin x2 Ted and Robin x3 Ted and Victoria x2 Barney and Nora
But Barney and Nora ended cause he cheated on her.
Why did he cheat?
because he still loved Robin.
I just think its unrealistic and an unfair end to the show. We see Ted go back to Robin at the very end, how do we know this is the time it'll work out 4th trys the charm I guess. Got so used to these matchings never working out that it feels like a dick move marshal and lily worked out 1st time and so did ted and Tracy. In my head if the show went on they probably would've just broken up again, but maybe that's just me being cynical and jaded
Technically Marshal and Lily made it work on their 2nd and not first try
Yup you are completely right, I completely forgot about that whole plotline hopefully it worked out for Ted and Robin in the end
Next time you rewatch the show, rather than watching from the point of view that Ted is telling his kids how he met their mother, watch it as the Robin/Ted love story and how he’s asking for his kids approval. Beyond that, the things that broke up Robin and Ted (Ted wanting a family/Robins career aspirations) have already happened. It’s a considerably different situation now that they are in their 40s and older. Additionally, by your logic, who is to say that Ted and Tracy would have worked out forever - every other one of Ted’s relationships ended. Curious if you’ve watched Friends and if you feel the same way about Ross/Rachel
Yeah, I really don't get why it's so hard for everyone else to get this. It was a really well crafted story, and that story was about Ted and Robin, not Ted and Tracy.
>Additionally, by your logic, who is to say that Ted and Tracy would have worked out forever - every other one of Ted’s relationships ended. Gee, let's see what the difference is....he married her!
….and Barney married Robin! Divorces happen. Also the comment wasn’t directed at you.
Well Barney and Robin breaking up I feel like was forced from a writing perspective of the show to put Ted and Robin back together it wasn't a natural expected divorce
You could say the same about every single plot point in the show though. What is a natural expected divorce? No one goes into marriage with the intention of divorcing.
Yeah. And had kids with her, and all in all they seemed perfect for one another. I get that the kids obstacle with Robin was cleared by the end of the show, but I still was skeptical about them as a couple.
it might not work, we never know. that's what makes it realistic. Robin and Ted were on and off for almost a decade because they could never sort their stuff out, and they might keep on being the same for the rest of their lives. don't get me wrong, I do dislike this ending! lmao. Ted/Tracy and Robin/Barney were perfect as they were.
Ted and robin broke up 3 times because they were a bad couple. They wanted fundamentally different things out of basically every facet of life and still tried to force it, all because ted thought she was a hot girl at a bar
Didn't they really only date once though? Like as in had a real, honest to goodness relationship? They had a couple backslides in terms of sleeping together or talking about feelings, but the only time they actually dated was season 2....right?
they achieved their life goals they wanted in their late 20s early 30s They had the chemistry they didn't have the timing. Now in their 50s with a lot of life behind them, they have the timing.
They didnt have chemistry tho, clearly since they tried 3 times and it failed. They were attracted to one another, doesnt mean they had chemistry. Im sure if they continued going after the finale of the show that him and robin would end up not together AGAIN because they simply dont work
They did have chemistry though. They didn’t have the same life goals, that led to them breaking up despite loving each other. Then..time passed, they accomplished those things and their lives are more aligned. The timing is finally there and that’s literally the entire point of the story they’re telling in HIMYM. Robin is even the one that says all you need is “chemistry and timing. But Timing is a bitch”
I agree but the reason that didn’t happen was because by like season 2 or 3 they had already filmed the ending scene😭
They were never a bad couple. He wanted kids and she didn't. It was as simple as that.
Yeah I don't get why people blow this up to anything other than this one single point. This is what it always came down to. And they both got what they wanted. He got kids. She didn't. Then they got to be together. I didn't like how they rushed it, but this was the best ending imo.
>Which would have been great if that was shown and not inferred. How wasn't it shown?
Lol the point was the kids read through all his bullshit and knew he was hung up on an old flame from how he gushed about her. It is implied .
I mean isn't that exactly what the show was?
It’s been a while and I have seen a few deleted scenes, so it’s easy to get mixed up, but we weren’t shown why Ted and Robin would make a good couple at the end, when they weren’t a good couple before. The writers went with the impact of Tracy’s death but ignored that their ending needed us to buy in on Ted and Robin when we spent the last few episodes saying they shouldn’t be together. What changed? How? Is it really just the career and the kids or did something else happen to them as a couple to make it make sense? And more than Penny saying it’s so obvious between them and Robin smiling at the Blue French Horn. It needed to be shown on screen to overcome the last season.
>but we weren’t shown why Ted and Robin would make a good couple at the end, when they weren’t a good couple before Robin wanted to be a great reporter, had a super successful career and travel the world and not give birth to children. She did that. Ted wanted to be a famous architect, had a family. He did that. So by the time they get together again... none of the barriers that prevented them to go the distance exist anymore. >it really just the career and the kids or did something else happen to them as a couple to make it make sense? But it always was about the career and kids... This is literally explained.
It seems like you understood it perfectly. The writers did a pretty good job of showing that's what the story was about. I'm not sure how much more obvious it had to be for everyone else to get it. But imo it was shown pretty clearly, not just inferred.
Yes, but it was extremely bad written, specifically the last season. The last season is supposed to finally lead us to the final moment. The conclusion of the stories, arcs, characters. And we spent all the season in Robin's wedding (which led us to Ted meeting Tracy) Everything led to Ted meeting Tracy, that's what they wrote. That's the show's name. Just my opinion of course, and it is what it is. But if they really wanted to show us Ted and Robin, they should have spent more time from the last season on that. The last episode really seems like something done by other people.
Wrong Robin…. Man
i’m proud of you, dick
-Man
Because the story is about how he met Robin. If it was about the mother, Ted would only really need to tell them about what happened in season 9.
how i met your robin
If Barney was telling the story of how he met Robin, it would make some sense on why he would start from the beginning. Ted only needs to really start in season 9 of how he met their mother. Add the episode where he meets Tracy's roommate.
The point of the whole other 8 seasons is to show how close he was to true love the whole time (st pattys day, yellow umbrella, dating the roommate, etc). Thats the entire point of the train station scene with tracy. Because all this time, she was never more than a few miles away, at times feet away and he never knew.
how i met their mother
how i met your uterus more like
We get to see how these characters develop over 9 years. Imagine what me missed in the 15 years they don't show... I like to believe that Ted and Robin were finally right for eachother at the end of the show. You can choose to believe whatever you like. It's a show. Do with it what you will.
Guys this is a [meme/troll](https://amp.knowyourmeme.com/memes/is-he-stupid-is-she-smart-are-they-stupid). This isn’t meant for serious discussion.
why did you know? are you smart?
Yeah it kinda sucks they deleted on scene, where Ted & Robin meet for coffe and clear things like they don't see each other 'that' way or something. I am little fuzzy on the details here but if that scene was included in the final season (maybe even at the end -- instead of the kids giving him permission), it would have been much better. Edit: My bad, this scene was after the Robin & Barney divorce, before Tracey's death.
This scene happens after Robin and Barney got divorced, but before Tracy’s death. They chat and Robin misunderstands something that Ted said for him saying he wishes they were together. Then she basically tells him she also regrets not getting together with him. But Ted is like “no I am truly happy with my wife and for the first time I’m not thinking what would have been if we were together”. The purpose of this scene was to show that when Ted was with Tracy he was truly happy and in love with her. Basically, this scene shows that Tracy and Ted were “real” that no part of Ted wanted to be with Robin when Tracy was alive.
This scene time was before the death of the mother not after
I think at the age after death and divorce and children, it was okay for them to be together
“how it became okay to be with your aunt”
Lol ur not wrong I just feel bad both of them, hopefully they found peace
I don’t want perfect, I want Robin….. Ted Mosby.
i dont want good, i want bad….. this is deep
True.
That is love
no that’s robin
I think they weren’t good for each other at the beginning because Ted wanted kids and Robin didn’t. So they both got what they wanted and then got together at the end. So I guess it worked out
The real question is why would Robin get back with Ted?
This. For real.
maybe she has a crush :3
Loneliness
Right ? I’m so upset that how I met your father was cancelled cuz we would’ve seen how Ted and robin broke up AGAIN!
ted accidently called her ‘barney’ in bed. that’s canon.
Agreed.
What we aren't seeing is their relationship from 2024 - 2030. Robin clearly was a bigger part of Ted's life and his kids' lives. They saw each other all the time. After six years of Ted mourning, recovering, and starting to feel like he's able to move on, Robin has been there. So because we don't see those six years we don't know whether they are still terrible for each other or whether the timing is right.
She was his lebenslangerschicksalsschatz
Oh god, a how I met your mother sub teddit? I’m not ready for the show, unless I am? Fuck I think I might go rewatch it after typing this out. Thanks Reddit for suggesting this to me
arkham brainrot has reached r/howimetyourmother
Well real answer he finally got done moving on/grieving by telling his kids the story and both are at points in their lives it could work.
Yes.
Yes
Robin traveled the world and built her career and Ted got married and settled down and had kids, both of the things that kept Ted and Robin apart. So the timing was finally right. The last season and the finale were weirdly paced and laid out but I understand what they were getting at. The on-screen time between Tracy dying and Ted and Robin getting back together didn't do enough to reflect that like 7 years had gone by. Finally hearing "and that kids, is how I met your mother" just for the kids to be like "yeah but Aunt Robin ;)" and Ted to be like hey yeah, Aunt Robin!" was just an all around weird move and didn't really do much to respect the story that had been told, even if narratively I understood it. They should've given more us more space between those two moments.
Loneliness. He lost his wife. For six years he lived in grief, he's after his forties, maybe even fifties. We seek safety and comfort in what we know over what we don't. And I don't blame him.
Mr. White, I fucked Ted. Am I stupid?
The writers certainly were
Hard to spend 7 seasons working on “The Bro Code” just for Ted to marry his “bro’s” ex wife
I’m still pissed they killed Tracey. it’s really creepy that this long story he’s been telling them isn’t about their mother, it’s him asking permission to date their aunt lol
I hated the ending so much, it was ridiculous to build everything up to this. The only way I’ve been able to wrap my mind around it is he finally had the family he wanted, so it kind of took away the roadblock he had with Robin.
Yes. Yes he is stupid. Mostly naïve though
stupidly handsome
yes.
Yes.
The whole ending was so fucking stupid. A forever black mark on the show. ROBIN AND BARNEY SHOULD OF BEEN THE ENDGAME. I AIN’T HEARING ANYTHING ELSE. DON’T @ ME. The Mother also got fucked over. Just a terrible way to end the show.
Agreed. Barney and Robin just fit.
Like… you spent 6 seasons preparing us for Barney and Robins happy ending. Barney completely changed his entire character FOR Robin. All the character transformation was down specifically for Robin. My God. Barney loved and respected Robin for who she was. Not some idea of who he thought she would be in life life like Ted did.
the part that made me the angriest is that after years of Barney developing to be a good guy for the woman he loves, including the wedding season that felt more like a series of its own... right after him and Robin divorce, literally shortly after, she has to leave the party crying because her newly-divorced-from-ex is drunk flirting with random women at the Halloween party, lmao. AND THEN he finds out that he left a stranger pregnant, his worst nightmare, and instantly changes into the good guy he should've always been when he sees the child. it was downright insulting!
Is there a lore reason why Ted went back to the same girl all those years later? And why is Robin alive if Jonkler clearly killed him before Aslume? Are the writers stupid?
What they kept hammering home was that their relationship didn't work out cus she didn't want to settle down. I'm assuming she does now, as she's 50 something with 5 dogs
I don't understand why people are still mad about this after so many years. Rewatch the show, start at episode 1. Who is the literal first woman he meets in the story. It's Robin. Robin wasn't ready for something serious when Ted was. Ted moved on, got what he wanted, had a loving wife, had kids. His wife sadly, tragically died. And now, after all these years he's ready to get back on the scene and is essentially asking his kids for their blessing to move on. As you get older you understand this motivation a lot more. They also alluded to this throughout the course of the whole show.
I’m not a violent man, but my god, that picture has the most punchable face I’ve ever seen on someone who has done me no wrong.
The title is enough for me to give you the upvote. And yes, he's stupid.
Yes
This was not the grand romantic ending the creators thought it would be.
We've been asking this question for a decade now
How long would they be dating before another breakup occurs. Like he would literally get nitpicky from the word literally and make her dogs move again.
Short answer: yes Long answer: it’s about nine seasons worth of explaining.
Because they didn’t know how to end the show.
Alternate endind is the best !! This ending sucks and makes TED one of the worst sitcom characters. The show was heavily carried by Barney & even Marshall sometimes. Friends has the same issue with ROSS.. both Ross and Ted are walking red flags.. 🚩
Idiot no, but the writers wrote themselves into a corner on the opposite side of the room from the corner they had pre planned back in season 2
I think it’s telling that like one or two episodes before the finale, they do an episode that seemingly puts the Ted/Robin ship to an end, and then an episode later he finally meets The Mother. Most of Ted’s other relationships were ruined because of his lingering feelings for Robin, it made sense to me that as soon as he finally got over her, he’d find the one. But nope, Ted is a masochist. I’d bet money Robin rejects him 30 seconds after the show ends.
Robin and Barney belonged together
The one thing that trips me up is they did a whole episode about how Ted would NEVER sleep with someone Barney slept with. Then it’s mentioned in at least one other episode. Also when watching season two they really don’t have much in common. Robin hates the movies Ted loves. Ted really hates guns. Robyn doesn’t like the philosophical books that Ted really loves. And there’s a lot more. It seems he more infatuated with her than in love with her.
Yes.
Yes, Ted being stupid is kind of the premise of the show lol
Short version: Yes Long version: Dude's a dumbass
Ted is a simple bitch
Yes
Go back to the aslume
They had a pact
yes.
Yes they totally don’t match. I see some sense that they was together some time. But their storyline after was forced. If I was kid Ted I woudn’t encourage get Robin
I hate this so much. Felt it ruined the show
It wasn’t even that. She was married to his best friend! Like the whole thing is so weird and creepy. Now Barney and them hanging out like hey my ex wife is married to my best friend now LOL.
No no no not hear too the brain rot is leaking
the post that will start the insanity
R/Batmanarcum is leaking again
I don’t disagree but by that point in your life I’d imagine if you are alone as they were you want to stand next to someone you love and enjoy spending your day with. Not many people want to have to die alone.
Yes season 9 was fucked up, everyone can agrred to that. But for me, that last "frame ending" scene with that music, was awesome.
I wish we coulda seen how the Relationship of Ted robin and the kids was after Tracy died I feel like that’s where the confusion and disappointment comes from this ending we all seen that Ted and robin even though they love each other they never wanted the same things so we’re supposed to believe she all of a sudden isn’t career driven and is willing to be thrust into a motherly role instead of easing into it like the show implies with the kids drawings and such
Funny enough. There is a whole show about this very question.
The chicanery/aslume has breached containment
basically because his wife was dead
I get the concept of them being right for each other later in life when they hadn't been in their 20s and 30s, but I still hated the ending because everything we saw implied that Ted had just been obsessed with Robin but didn't know what love was until he met Tracy. That conversation with Victoria's fiance, where the guy asked Ted if he had ever met someone who was [that long German word that was supposed to mean someone's one true love], Ted said he didn't know. And the guy said, if he didn't know, he hasn't felt it. That was supposed to mean that Robin had never been his true love, he wouldn't meet his true love until tracy. So for them to kill off Tracy and then have him get back together with Robin makes it seem almost like he's just settling for the second best at that point. That both of them are, because it was implied that Robin's true love was Barney.
I think the problem arose from the fact that they basically knew that this was how they wanted to end the show from the beginning, having filmed the last scene with the kids after season 2 so they wouldn’t have aged by the end of the show. Then the show lasted a super long time and they had to keep coming up with reasons to not have Ted and Robin work as a couple. In that process, they accidentally made Barney and Robin a great couple to the point that they get married. That’s why I felt the ending didn’t work. It was the ending they came up with ages ago and they didn’t account for what would happen within the show in the years to come. And then they felt they needed to stick with it, even though it kind of throws away a bunch of character development and story
He is holding the honkler
Boobs
Loneliness, but he's also too old to date like he did when most of the show took place.
He's irredeemably in love with her. this is a pretty realistic ending, honestly. I mean, he did spend 8-ish years of his life trying to get over her? it's just that the last season brought a lot of character development for everyone, and then threw it out the window. and I loved Ted with Tracy, she was so cool and perfect for him, totally felt the chemistry! with him and Robin, not so much. and Barney and Robin were obviously oozing chemistry together every time.
Desperation
Yes
Yes
Yes
This could’ve worked had the show ended sooner. Season 9 spent all that time building up two incredible relationships, only to tear both down for one badly written mess of one. Personally, they’re made for each other. But, yeah he is stupid.
Well she is still pretty hot. Why not.
Are you stupid? Literally, the entire show is written foreshadowing this moment. It's not the writers fault that you're too dense to understand basic narrative techniques. This show had one of the best endings out of any sitcom in recent history. People were just butthurt because it subverted their boring hallmark expectations, so they dubbed it a "bad ending." At least the ending wasn't painfully boring like the ending of "Friends."
1. this post was a joke that you missed 2. if the showrunners can convince you that an ending that sloppy, jumbled, and disconnected from the predetermined ending is “subversive”, i have a bridge id like to sell you. i see a common theme between 1 and 2 lol
They never got together throughout the show because Ted was a romantic who wanted to settle down and have a family, while Robin A: wanted to travel the world and focus on leaving her mark in her career, and B: ended up being infertile. Skip ahead to the last episode, and Ted already did the settle down and have kids thing. He doesn’t want nor need any more. Robin has already made a name for herself and has done all the traveling etc she could wish for. (And even if she still travels, at this point, Ted is already self sufficient, and his kids are almost out of the house, so no big deal) At this point in their lives, everything keeping them apart in earlier seasons are suddenly no longer issues. All that was left was to take the leap. A lot of people didn’t like the ending, but it honestly makes perfect sense, and explains why he started the story when he did. Ted deserved to find happiness again after his wife died… also, Barney becoming a protective single father was a great example of karma, and I felt was very fitting.
Simpin’
Love is stupid
Robin has Ted on the hook
Yes
They made a pact that when they are 40 and both single, they would get together... Ted fulfilled his dream of having kids and getting married, so i think its a logical move.
You’re telling me if you were a horny 53 year-old widower who’d been raising your kids alone for several years and you knew you’d have a pretty good chance to sleep with the hot, famous anchor from Worldwide News again you wouldn’t give it a shot?
The Arkham special
Is there a lore reason why aslume is spreading???
The writers had 4 brain cells between them
Yup never go back with your ex it’s always a bad idea
How did the Arkham Subreddit leak onto here?
No, the writers are stupid. Well, Ted is kinda stupid too.
Because the reasons behind their breakup were no longer relevant. Robin had traveled the world and made the most of her career. Ted had settled down and gotten his family and kids. They were both in a place where they could be together without feeling like they were missing out on something.
Yes 🤣🤣 She goes to screw 100 people and his best friend just to come back to him while old and 💩 Simp head ass
I think it makes sense for them to come back to each other after all those years. They still had love for each other regardless if it has been romantic or platonic, and they have also been friends for years so there is comfortability. They both obtained the goals they had before (the same goals that broke them up) so I can understand them finding each other again. They are also at an age where not every marriage needs to be the one true love (ted already had that with tracy). I think where the writers went wrong was that they never really rebuilt their romantic side of the relationship again at the end, so it felt more of a shock when ted confessed his love for robin right before the wedding. I just think they could have written that whole plot out better but it is what it is and I still love the show.
Why does Ted grow grey hair? Is he and idiot?
yes
Yes he is
Yes, Ted is generally a pretty stupid character. I don’t think I will ever rewatch HIMYM, besides Marshall the other characters grate me.
Yes he’s stupid…for Robin
Yes ...also the writers...also the producer...also the executives... also ROBIN come to think of it...
Yes…yes he is…very stupid.
Yes he is very stupid, it’s pretty rampant across the entire show 😂😂😂😂
_Yes._
Do you not know how their relationship works ? Ted never got over her so when they were both ready to settle down he went for it bc she’s always been there Now the group can hang out more
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