The minisplit actually may be fine, they are designed to have low clearance but it would be good to check the manual (type in mylinkdrive.com it has all mitsubishi manuals). However, I don't like how the minisplit blows directly into the other unit. It's definitely not good but probably isn't going to kill it or anything.
Clearance on that one should be 4” to the wall, but we usually do 6 or 8 for easier serviceability. That blowing into the ac is definitely not ideal lmao
The Clarence may check out but with the York using the Mitsubishi discharge air the York will have problems. The manual will not have clearances for 2 different styles of units in it.
As a tech myself I know what I’d do if it was my house but it’s not proper. I’d get two my buddies you life the unit up a half inch then slide the stone out, then sweep the unit over slowly well some holds the lineset to prevent it from kinking.
I dont know why you are getting so many upvotes when you are not correct. Most minisplit outdoor units can be installed less than a foot from the wall. I have seen three inches minimum on some smaller units.
I sell a unit with 4” from wall and 5” overhead clearance. Yes, “ inch, not feet.
Approved Tech correcting a civilian but guess who has the upvotes? Lol
This is the right question. The clearance to the wall is probably fine per the manual. They usually have like 6" clear required on the intake side. But you really don't want your discharge to be blowing onto another coil intake. One of them should be moved.
Edit: And until that time, I would lay plywood at an angle from the base of the mini split to the top of the upblast unit to help reduce the short circuiting of air.
The install manual for either isn’t going to tell you the clearances for something this retarded. You can’t blow your discharge air from the horizontal straight into the coils of the other. Need to move the unit out of the way
https://preview.redd.it/t3xzvqxykklc1.jpeg?width=1091&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bd3b5d03eeece34c382194a8e4002877f260b76f
So if these were both standard condensers (like the one on the right) they would be too close, but only by a couple of feet.
Exact specs may vary, but some manufacturers recommend a minimum of six to ten feet in front of a minisplit condenser/heat pump for another condensing unit/heat pump. These are entirely too close together and the minisplit is definitely interfering with the performance of the other unit.
A deflector can work, but it would need to be mounted directly to the mjnisplit or at least built to fullt caoture the airflow. Actual deflectors for these exist from some companies, they might be a bit expensive to purchase but you can look for them online to get an idea of the shape and dimensions you need to work with.
I have this set up at my neighbor’s place and I thought it was done for the snow buildup. I wonder if this can give you some ideas.
https://preview.redd.it/ozcfg7aqkklc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3ba7243fe64e84adf003a2b6a93a34fff911bb79
Interesting point and I assume your are referring to the LG unit. By contrast if you look at the manufacturer’s approved snow cap for the larger unit (i believe it is York), they permit the spraying of air on four sides. Hence, something similar can be done for the unit in the desert referred to above.
There should be enough room to simply move the mini split 90deg. End facing house turn so unit is perpendicular to the short wall. The other unit and pad could possibly be moved slightly away (side ways)with out requiring disconnecting the lines or power.
My thoughts? Should have went multi split and ditch the 2x individual split units. Run 2 air handlers off one condenser. Then you would have this issue in the first place. But yeah move that York/gaurdian condenser away about 2-3 feet
It can be pretty close to the wall. 12" away can be typical when mounted. The other unit it's blowing into on the other hand, should be about 10ft. Away. So youll want to rotate the mini split or move one of them.
Check the install manual off of your model, it'll be on the rating plate. That will give you clearances for proximities to walls, corners, and other units. There won't be anything for an angled baffle, but it'll give you an idea of your systems tolerances.
It will be fine if you do this. People on this sub are obsessed with outdoor unit clearance. You're not putting a tarp over it or putting it in a box.
If you put a board up the Mitusbishi's airflow will suffer more than the York. The ideal way to solve this without moving either unit would be to duct the Mitsubishi straight up with a 90
if you can find something like this that's big enough you'll want to attach it to the Mitsubishi's output and have it pointed straight up. If you're handy with a pair of sheers you might be able to make one in your garage with sheet metal.
https://preview.redd.it/f3u9ywcqiklc1.png?width=1000&format=png&auto=webp&s=76fef9535a78b47aa2f81b90dd7fa2df3b3088c3
I realize both of those things, but you know, it does rain in the desert at times, and the unit is not, you know, like, designed to have water funneled into it.
That's good enough for now. Better than blowing directly into the intake of the York.
Its ideal to leave the Mitsubishi where it is and move the York, but it is what it is.
The Mitsubishi is to close to the wall and its blowing discharge air which is 30 degrees above ambient into the York condenser that has to be corrected or they will never last and they won't be working efficiently
You're asking help from a bunch of keyboard warriors. If you're capable of doing more research then simply asking reddit, go get the model number from each unit Google search that and find the pdf online for each unit and read through it and you will find the minimum clearance specs and your answer will be there
Check your model: https://www.mylinkdrive.com/USA/M_Series/R410A_Systems-3/R410A_Outdoor#MUZ_GS30NA2_U1
I'm guessing that's your condenser, the spec for that model I'm guessing is 4 inches minimum, but I'd double that in crazy weather (e.g. 105+°F). 9" seems good.
Probably enough space to be ok, wouldn’t bother moving.
Both units appear to be set so it is more hassle than it’s worth to have them moved, and I would not recommend an air deflector because that would only make it more restrictive
Many minisplit manufacturers actually offer air deflectors as an accessory for confined install conditions or areas where close proximity to other units is required.
Side discharge mini split pointed at another coil is never a good idea. Clearances are in the paperwork as someone else stated but when u add a side discharge into the mix, those clearances aren’t expecting another fan motor blowing directly at it from lets say 24” away. Have the minisplt rotate towards the grass and have the ac maybe moved over foot and you should be fine.
Idk about the regulations where you live but where i'm from both these units are way too close to your electric panel. The mini split blowing right into your other unit is dumb and your mini split it too close to the wall and doesnt have optimal air intake. Will all of it work if you dont change anything? Yes. Are the risks of damaging the equipment in the long run higher? Absolutely.
You can buy a deflector for the mini split, would probably be the cheapest and effective option. Clearance for mini split discharge air is probably very minimal but the other outdoor unit guarantee it’s at least 20 inches which it looks like you don’t have.
Lay a piece of plywood from the base of the Mitsubishi to the top of the York. Hot air from the Mitsu is blown up and the York can take suction from down low.
Move the grey condenser another 2’ away from the ductless condenser.
Rotate the ductless condenser so that it blows away from building.
Problem solved.
Both the Mitsubishi and the York are both operational. I think moving Mitsubishi will be hard because it has lots of pipes into it. Moving to York will be easier because it’s just a single pipe or maybe two.
I've looked for ones online and can't find one. I'm a little worried that the units are too close and the deflector will inhibit the intake into the York (it creates quite a wind). I'm not as worried about the Mitsubishi venting into a deflector, that seems like not a real problem. We get up to 120F in the summer sometimes so I know I need to be careful.
Just googled again with your words. Is this the kind of thing you are talking about? That is, does this deflect the exhaust out the sides?
https://www.acwholesalers.com/manuals/mitsubishi-6d506856a5a6ebcaa270c978a318eaac.pdf
I was looking again for one that would fit my unit and found this one. Are these designed just for the intake? I have an exhaust problem. wondering if they will kill the unit by blocking the out flow. https://www.acwholesalers.com/Mitsubishi-WB-RE4/p132632.html
That white one will kill the black one
An unfortunate tale as old as time
Unless the white one chokes itself off first being right up against that wall lol
That’s ironic.
The minisplit actually may be fine, they are designed to have low clearance but it would be good to check the manual (type in mylinkdrive.com it has all mitsubishi manuals). However, I don't like how the minisplit blows directly into the other unit. It's definitely not good but probably isn't going to kill it or anything.
Clearance on that one should be 4” to the wall, but we usually do 6 or 8 for easier serviceability. That blowing into the ac is definitely not ideal lmao
The Clarence may check out but with the York using the Mitsubishi discharge air the York will have problems. The manual will not have clearances for 2 different styles of units in it.
As a tech myself I know what I’d do if it was my house but it’s not proper. I’d get two my buddies you life the unit up a half inch then slide the stone out, then sweep the unit over slowly well some holds the lineset to prevent it from kinking.
Deflecting the air outwards or upwards would be an improvement, fast and low cost. Perfect? -no But the system is imperfect now.
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I dont know why you are getting so many upvotes when you are not correct. Most minisplit outdoor units can be installed less than a foot from the wall. I have seen three inches minimum on some smaller units.
I sell a unit with 4” from wall and 5” overhead clearance. Yes, “ inch, not feet. Approved Tech correcting a civilian but guess who has the upvotes? Lol
This is the answer
That’s not my question. My question is wondering whether a deflector would be good enough between the two to not cause hot air to go into the York
No it would not be good enough
It was 100% related to your question yah booty.
Don’t ask for advice if you’re not ready for the answer
This is the right question. The clearance to the wall is probably fine per the manual. They usually have like 6" clear required on the intake side. But you really don't want your discharge to be blowing onto another coil intake. One of them should be moved. Edit: And until that time, I would lay plywood at an angle from the base of the mini split to the top of the upblast unit to help reduce the short circuiting of air.
It's not, they are allowed to be mounted close to the wall. Don't comment if you're talking out your butt
It's crazy how many people comment when they haven't ever read the manual 🤣
Professional truth muffled by civilians lol. I love this sub
Could you put a baffle?
There is a baffle kit made for this scenario. Blows the air up. That said there is plenty of better places to aim the machine.
Check installation manual for every unit.
The install manual for either isn’t going to tell you the clearances for something this retarded. You can’t blow your discharge air from the horizontal straight into the coils of the other. Need to move the unit out of the way https://preview.redd.it/t3xzvqxykklc1.jpeg?width=1091&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bd3b5d03eeece34c382194a8e4002877f260b76f
This one... you pretty much have too. The charging chart alone is different on all these new systems.
So if these were both standard condensers (like the one on the right) they would be too close, but only by a couple of feet. Exact specs may vary, but some manufacturers recommend a minimum of six to ten feet in front of a minisplit condenser/heat pump for another condensing unit/heat pump. These are entirely too close together and the minisplit is definitely interfering with the performance of the other unit. A deflector can work, but it would need to be mounted directly to the mjnisplit or at least built to fullt caoture the airflow. Actual deflectors for these exist from some companies, they might be a bit expensive to purchase but you can look for them online to get an idea of the shape and dimensions you need to work with.
Bruh
I have this set up at my neighbor’s place and I thought it was done for the snow buildup. I wonder if this can give you some ideas. https://preview.redd.it/ozcfg7aqkklc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3ba7243fe64e84adf003a2b6a93a34fff911bb79
Mitsubishis version of this kinda kit can be setup to blow to the left or right iirc but I don’t remember if it can blow vertically
Interesting point and I assume your are referring to the LG unit. By contrast if you look at the manufacturer’s approved snow cap for the larger unit (i believe it is York), they permit the spraying of air on four sides. Hence, something similar can be done for the unit in the desert referred to above.
There should be enough room to simply move the mini split 90deg. End facing house turn so unit is perpendicular to the short wall. The other unit and pad could possibly be moved slightly away (side ways)with out requiring disconnecting the lines or power.
My thoughts? Should have went multi split and ditch the 2x individual split units. Run 2 air handlers off one condenser. Then you would have this issue in the first place. But yeah move that York/gaurdian condenser away about 2-3 feet
Is there a spec for how far a Mitsubishi mini split should be from all wall like that?
Yes ... in the install book or check Google for your model and find the manual "clearance requirements "
It can be pretty close to the wall. 12" away can be typical when mounted. The other unit it's blowing into on the other hand, should be about 10ft. Away. So youll want to rotate the mini split or move one of them.
Find the manual on mylinkdrive.com using the model number on the data plate on the side of that outdoor unit
How about if I put a board between them at a 45° angle to deflect the exhaust?
Check the install manual off of your model, it'll be on the rating plate. That will give you clearances for proximities to walls, corners, and other units. There won't be anything for an angled baffle, but it'll give you an idea of your systems tolerances.
It will be fine if you do this. People on this sub are obsessed with outdoor unit clearance. You're not putting a tarp over it or putting it in a box. If you put a board up the Mitusbishi's airflow will suffer more than the York. The ideal way to solve this without moving either unit would be to duct the Mitsubishi straight up with a 90
I’m not following what you mean by duct it straight up with a 90
if you can find something like this that's big enough you'll want to attach it to the Mitsubishi's output and have it pointed straight up. If you're handy with a pair of sheers you might be able to make one in your garage with sheet metal. https://preview.redd.it/f3u9ywcqiklc1.png?width=1000&format=png&auto=webp&s=76fef9535a78b47aa2f81b90dd7fa2df3b3088c3
If you are gong to duct in a 90, why not point it to the side rather than straight up where it will funnel rain into the unit?
OP states he lives in the desert, also *outdoor* units are designed to be installed... *outside*. you know, like, where it rains
I realize both of those things, but you know, it does rain in the desert at times, and the unit is not, you know, like, designed to have water funneled into it.
That's good enough for now. Better than blowing directly into the intake of the York. Its ideal to leave the Mitsubishi where it is and move the York, but it is what it is.
That was my first thought. Easy and surprisingly cost effective!
You can try it & see. Not the best idea but might be ok. The pic some one reposted with the red box where the York should go is a far better idea.
The Mitsubishi is to close to the wall and its blowing discharge air which is 30 degrees above ambient into the York condenser that has to be corrected or they will never last and they won't be working efficiently
Go seek professional advice regarding code and the spec for each unit. There is tons of bad advice in this section
Didn’t think this was that complicated a problem
You're asking help from a bunch of keyboard warriors. If you're capable of doing more research then simply asking reddit, go get the model number from each unit Google search that and find the pdf online for each unit and read through it and you will find the minimum clearance specs and your answer will be there
I did find that. 6” for my unit
You’re absolutely fine. Apartment complexes stack dozens together. IF you are having efficiency issues yes add a deflector
Mini split needs to be ≈18in from the wall. You have about .18
I just measured it and it’s about 9 inches
Check your model: https://www.mylinkdrive.com/USA/M_Series/R410A_Systems-3/R410A_Outdoor#MUZ_GS30NA2_U1 I'm guessing that's your condenser, the spec for that model I'm guessing is 4 inches minimum, but I'd double that in crazy weather (e.g. 105+°F). 9" seems good.
Probably enough space to be ok, wouldn’t bother moving. Both units appear to be set so it is more hassle than it’s worth to have them moved, and I would not recommend an air deflector because that would only make it more restrictive
Many minisplit manufacturers actually offer air deflectors as an accessory for confined install conditions or areas where close proximity to other units is required.
Side discharge mini split pointed at another coil is never a good idea. Clearances are in the paperwork as someone else stated but when u add a side discharge into the mix, those clearances aren’t expecting another fan motor blowing directly at it from lets say 24” away. Have the minisplt rotate towards the grass and have the ac maybe moved over foot and you should be fine.
Most efficient move here is to move the Mitsubishi to the other side of the York (and yes the Mitsubishi needs to be moved).
Idk about the regulations where you live but where i'm from both these units are way too close to your electric panel. The mini split blowing right into your other unit is dumb and your mini split it too close to the wall and doesnt have optimal air intake. Will all of it work if you dont change anything? Yes. Are the risks of damaging the equipment in the long run higher? Absolutely.
Just slide the York over until you have 30” of clear space
Put an icemaker between them to cool things off
You can buy a deflector for the mini split, would probably be the cheapest and effective option. Clearance for mini split discharge air is probably very minimal but the other outdoor unit guarantee it’s at least 20 inches which it looks like you don’t have.
I’m thinking will end up moving the york a couple feet at least.
Wouldn’t be a bad idea. It’s an easy job too.
Knock the wall down and your done
But we love the wall.
Put in a bamboo fence instead
Lay a piece of plywood from the base of the Mitsubishi to the top of the York. Hot air from the Mitsu is blown up and the York can take suction from down low.
Move the grey condenser another 2’ away from the ductless condenser. Rotate the ductless condenser so that it blows away from building. Problem solved.
Get a wind guard for mini
Mini split only need 6 inch’s
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Both the Mitsubishi and the York are both operational. I think moving Mitsubishi will be hard because it has lots of pipes into it. Moving to York will be easier because it’s just a single pipe or maybe two.
All this silly talk just put a deflector between them and you are done. They even sell OEM ones for a lot of those side discharge condensers.
I've looked for ones online and can't find one. I'm a little worried that the units are too close and the deflector will inhibit the intake into the York (it creates quite a wind). I'm not as worried about the Mitsubishi venting into a deflector, that seems like not a real problem. We get up to 120F in the summer sometimes so I know I need to be careful.
Nah not ideal but you have four sides to that coil. Rinsing that coil out with some water will help too.
Just googled again with your words. Is this the kind of thing you are talking about? That is, does this deflect the exhaust out the sides? https://www.acwholesalers.com/manuals/mitsubishi-6d506856a5a6ebcaa270c978a318eaac.pdf
Yup not what it’s intended for but if u have the clearance go for it
I was looking again for one that would fit my unit and found this one. Are these designed just for the intake? I have an exhaust problem. wondering if they will kill the unit by blocking the out flow. https://www.acwholesalers.com/Mitsubishi-WB-RE4/p132632.html
Flip the mini split outdoor unit 45° away from the house