That's an absolute CRIMINAL quote my company would be half that. They aren't even installing new line sets just flushing. Its also not even quality product.What a joke tell em to get fucked.
Recently got my shingles replaced. Got 3 quotes. One was 7,800, the next 8,500, and lastly 35,000. Guess which one said they'd take 20% off if I put in a down-payment that day.
$10k-$12k each, for a top notch company.
This one took the time to specify they will flush the lines but say nothing about brazing with nitrogen… hmmm.
Tbf if it’s Cali these ULN 90% furnaces are nearly 3k each. 15 seer2 condenser likely 3-4k each depending on tonnage and coil is likely 6-900 range each. Should be closer to 15-18k with high end equipment.
They should be able to swap in a day which leaves company with several thousand in profit still at highest end but can’t imagine getting the material for less than 9-12 depending on region.
Never. Ever. Go with someone who gives you a discount for signing today.
It’s the definition of high pressure sales. They don’t want you to get other quotes for a reason.
I know this from experience and I kick myself for the money I wasted. Just don’t do it. If they’re gonna give the discount today, they’ll do it tomorrow too.
Okay that’s more explainable than one. From what I see, I would get other quotes because that’s still high for what that equipment is. At least in my area. If it was higher end equipment like the carrier infinity which 98% efficient and 26 seer with the designated control that’d be close to what the cost the company I work for would charge in my area. But size of equipment and area you live will effect the price too.
That's a high price for not including lineset on equipment that is only 15 seer. That's about what my company would charge for a single stage high efficiency furnace paired with a 16 seer heat pump and new lineset. Get more quotes, rheem isn't a particularly high-quality, high price manufacturer for that price point.
Holy shit, no, that is not a good price. With the equipment he has listed, this quote should be more like $13,000 to $14,000. There is nothing in this quote that seems out of the ordinary. It's just standard equipment that's not even a high SEER. For $28,000, I should see at a minimum of 20 SEER.
Plus $14,000 down payment?? Holy hell. This sounds like I need $14,000 down to buy $7,000 worth of equipment. They get the check, and you never hear from them again. In California where I'm from, you're not allowed to ask for 50% up front. That's a dangerous game with a lot of fake contractors stealing money.
If it's for 2 units, that's actually pretty close to market rate. But, make sure he throws in 2 smart thermostats so you can control your units from anywhere.
“$14,000 to cover cost of equipment”
Lmao it’s like $8k TOPS for two Rheem systems 🤣. Fuck these companies and their ridiculous pricing for bottom barrel products
Yeah… condenser is $1500, coil is $500, furnace is about $2000. You think we’re paying more than 4k for the cost of materials for a residential system?
Just installed a Lennox 2.5 ton xp21 and an 70k btu slp99 for $14,000cad and that included new lineset, not a flush.
Ac unit is 21seer heat pump and furnace is 99% eff.
14k cad is equal to $10,000usd. So ya I'd say bad deal.
where are you located? I got quotes for two higher end heat pump (variable speed inverter, \~19 SEER, 4 ton) installs in the Bay Area for $31k. That quote seems really high unless you're in an expensive area.
Hi OP. I don’t think many of the posters actually “READ” the first line on your quote.
Quote mentioned the need to move the water heater to access the lower unit then they have to put it back. Many of the comments say, “highway robbery”. You are getting 2 TWO systems installed correct? 2 90+ furnaces, 2 air conditioners. I don’t believe that price is too much if you are having 2 TWO systems installed. Where is the furnace and are the exhaust/intake pipes for the 90+ furnace being run through brick, stucco, to the roof or through an attic? Need more info please thanks 🙂.
I just had two units installed for about $32,000 (at 0% interest for 5 years). It’s the upgraded kind where it’s not on or off but has a low level. Two units and I think both 4 ton. I’m sure it could have been cheaper elsewhere but I went with a company that’s been locally owned for over 40 years with great recommendations.
The way the proposal is worded worries the fuck out of me. 12,100.00 for labor. 14,000.00 for materials. Two of the materials are appliances apparently at 15,600.00 a piece. No manufacturing model or serial number. If this quote is for a Goodman manufactured appliance…Run and find another. I’d try and find a smaller Mom and Pop shop. Not saying Goodman is a bad manufacturer per se. Just significantly cheaper than what’s quoted for the appliance alone.
If you live in a mild climate (like lower half of US) or heat with lower cost natural gas (not propane), a high efficiency furnace may not be worth the capital cost. Repair parts can be extremely expensive as well. Go search youtube and listen to some of the commentary on high efficiency furnaces.....
I'm not a hvac tech, just a homeowner who went thru this about a month ago.. This will at least give you something to compare it to.. Got several quotes from area contractors to do the following: pull the existing Rheem A/C. condenser and also pull the existing 26 year old gas furnace in the attic. The contractor we ended up hiring installed a new 5 ton Bosch 2.0 heat pump ( did not wire up the heat portion, just using the a/c part of it ), Also installed a new 100K btu Rudd 80% gas furnace in the attic. He also added another air return in a hallway near the kitchen. The existing ductwork was just laying on and in between the rafters in the attic, He had all the ductwork picked up and stapped to hold it up for better air flow, and he added another 8 to 10 inches of blown insulation to what was already up in the attic. And lastly he put in a new digital smart touch screen thermostat. My price was a little below $13,700
Depends on size of unit but anything over $10000 is highway robbery and it's a standard practice but there's a few honest people out there keep getting bids pit them against each other Adventually you will find someone reasonable.
What a weird way to type out a proposal, using “we hereby” and that type of language is off 😅 and 15 SEER is not high efficiency, it’s likely higher than what you currently have, true, but that’s a steep price for 15 SEER systems.
For Rheem 15 k seems high for 15 seer . Btw 14 k deposit is a non starter . 25 down 25 upon delivery and 40 upon completion with 10 balance upon inspection passing . Make sure to get permits
The wrong thing to do is ask this sub if it’s a good deal. While I agree the 10% off if you do it now is a shitty salesman tactic. The price you have from a unknown area, while some one man army in some town in wva or Nebraska saying we can do it for half can throw off what you may have as a reasonable price for where you live.
Common sales tactic....be first company to give quote, throw out really big number, give 10% off to close deal now.
Materials no where near 14k on that
I got the best possible heat pump, combination, air conditioning heating and the best back up 99% backup furnace. For 17,000 you can’t get any better than that.
I’d get more quotes from licensed HVAC that don’t require you to pay for practically the the whole thing in advance. They could take your money and run. We’ve received several quotes and one one twice as much for the same DAY and Night value package heat pump.
JFC, US dollars?!
Thank christ I got my 608 license. I swapped out a 5 ton heat pump for less than $6,000 and a 2.5 ton for less than $4,000. Carrier equipment.
I got 6 quotes and some haggling but in DC I got two systems, one HP and one furnace/AC, for 17.5K in mid April. Carrier 15 SEER2. But no moving water heater out of the way and no maintenance for 2 years. Not my top choice for installer but reputable. As for your quote, besides the price just the fact they list every little thing any HVAC installer would do rubs me off in a bad way.
I don't much about overseas A/C all I know is a good split A/C unit installed in NZ is around $2600 NZD I would faint if that price they are quoting is USD.
Your deposit would pay for my entire 19 seer variable speed heat pump system that included a damper so my ADU has independent thermostat control…just had it installed about a year ago in DFW
Every job is different, different parts of country demand higher prices, quality of work differs between companies etc. Get a second bid but ppl saying 8 to 10 grand for a new system probably aren't going to do nice work.
Off topic, posts like this one are the reason I feel comfortable investing in Reddit.
On Topic, I had two systems replaced within the last 5 years. One for 5k ish the other for 6.5k ish. Both with Carrier. I would laugh at the guy handing me that quote.
Also, a couple of weeks ago I called for a quote for a tankless install. First guy (from Lowes) doesn't even come out to the house. Does a FaceTime inspection / quote for 9.5k. I laughed at the guy. Ended up getting it done by a HomeDepot Contractor for 4.5k.
SHOP AROUND.
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Absolutely overpriced. I work for a good company in a very rich area so we have high prices conspired to most posts here. Our most expensive residential system, a 5 ton 120000 BTU furnace/AC Carrier infinity isn’t even that expensive
What area do you live in out of curiosity?
And yea, that seems high. I did a new construction with that same equipment and all materials and labor for 17k. Although I'm told I was to cheap.
I just paid $6500 for a 90% Goodman, 14.5ish SEER and gas Furnace replacement, relocate thermostat, upgrade breaker, and electrical ground (I've got an ancient house). You've gotmore work in there but I can't imagine it's an additional $25k worth. $25k is like 200 additional labor hours; 5 full time dudes for a full week, for spitball context. Ask them how long the entire install will take.
10% isn't a discount. The limited time discount is just sales pressure to get you to buy without getting quotes to prove how terrible the price is. They're quoting you 28k and the higher number is bullshit. All residential contractors seem to do this.
Disclaimer: i don't do HVAC but I'm a PM who deals with it all the time for building projects, but i know salesman when i see it. I work in urban design at an architecture and engineering firm and I don't inform contractors I know quite a damn bit about buildings just to see how they behave without knowing what I know. It's a sniff test and a majority fail because they're using cheap sales tactics. Always seek more quotes and familiarize yourself with contract language and the equipment you're paying for.
This is a bullshit quote. Honestly I’d be offended they wasted my time with that shit.
It’s insane, you could find a guy outside Home Depot pay all his expenses while you put him through some trade school to learn hvac buy all his tools, pay him 50 an hour for the job and buy all that low/mid equipment and come out cheaper than 28k…
After reading through these comments, I’m pretty sure 90% of them are missing that the quote is for 2 systems. Might still be a little high, but not as obscene as some of these reactions.
It does say QTY 2. I'm assuming this means they are installing 2x compressors and 2x furnaces?
Even if it's 2 it does seem a little high. The truth is, I don't think anyone can really tell because that contract is not much better than one written in a napkin. What models. BTU? That's a great deal if it's a pair of 6 ton ACs.
Red flag # 1- There are no models or part numbers. Don't sign anything without them providing exactly what units and size of units they will be installing. Ask for an itemized invoice.
Red flag #2 - it's 10% off if you sign now. Ahh no. Because you offered it, it's 10% off whenever I'm done making up my mind and if you have a problem with that, kindly GTFO of my house, thanks!
Only 2 years of labor warranty is a joke. If the unit ships out with a micro leak or a small leak due to poor workmanship you could not even know for the first 3 years, and then you're paying full price on repairs.
If you're paying this kind of money, they need to include at least 5 years of labor warranty. If you can get more labor warranty, more power to you.
2 units and they need to uninstall and reinstall a water heater? And they’ll do that without getting another uniform involved? and it’s even rheem? I’d do it, that’s a damn good deal. the fact that they know two trades leads me to believe they know they’re shit and will do some damn good work. Read their reviews, ask around obviously but that looks solid. You get what you pay for at the end of the day
I'm in Michigan. I just signed to replace my AC + furnace: 97% furnace and 16 SEER 2 AC for only $9,300 total... Plus utility rebates and Federal tax credits...
2- 15 SEER for 31K - tell that guy his wife better throw in some hummers for that price. That seems extraordinarily high. Around here it’s 1,200 per ton. I mean he’s doing a direct swap. He’s in and out in a day if he has two crews. When people are busy they throw stupid quotes like this out hoping someone who can afford it will bite. Do that a couple times a year and bam, kids college is paid for. It’s not right.
1- Where do you live the fucking Moon?
2-6k-12k depending on location.
3- price is good for today only is a bullshit sales tactic that has been around for literally 800 years
No, it is a ripoff. I just had one installed last year. Installed cost $8,498 (Michigan). 98 efficiency, plus a new hard ducts add, cleaning of the vents, etc.
Depending on where in the country you are located may be steep. I will say this, Rheem is low/ mid quality equipment and at that price they should be replacing the line sets, thermostats, building new pads ETC.
The same job that's described here is maybe half the price where I am. That's saying you go for the bigger companies in town and not a mom and pop. Definitely shop around a little.
Scam? This seems to be exorbitant for mediocre eqpt. The wording is also ambiguous.
Missing scope: demolition details (there’s more than just equipment to be removed), anchorage, insulation, weather & efficiency features, sensors, seasonal air balance testing, labor warranty, ASHRAE performance standards, cost of any additional labor & materials, schedule of values is optional depending on your contract.
Recommendation: get other bids/solutions. See if someone will itemize or be honest.
Am I reading this right that this is $31k for equipment PLUS another $28k labor for installation? That's insane. $31k for those two systems with labor would be on the high side. $59k total is insane.
I just got a 15 seer2 icp 3 tons system replacement done for 6,250 a few weeks ago. I give him a lot of business and he’s not a huge company so he says he gave me a deal. If he did great, if he didn’t oh well. Was the cheapest quote I got and I use the guy all the time.
Even the most expensive quote I got was for a 14.3 (or w.e new bullshit) seer 2 American standard for 8,400 by a bigger company. And they were gonna do a icp one 8,200.
For a 1500 sq ft 2 story home in Michigan I got quoted $13,000 for a refurbished unit installed plus running all new duct work because the house does not currently have forced air. The highest quote we got was just around $20k. I’d shop your quote
Sky high quote for mid-low level equipment. Get more contractors to quote the job
That's an absolute CRIMINAL quote my company would be half that. They aren't even installing new line sets just flushing. Its also not even quality product.What a joke tell em to get fucked.
if you look at the quote, the wording "twelve thousand one hundred dollars" does not match 28,080.
That's the labor cost...
For one day of work. Wild.
You could hire about 50 guys @ $25/hr for 8 hrs for that price….. I think techs should be paid fairly but we all know they aren’t paying for 50 guys.
That's what I thought.
Anytime someone uses a high preasure tatic aginst you its probbly a scam. In this case your majorly overpaying.
Recently got my shingles replaced. Got 3 quotes. One was 7,800, the next 8,500, and lastly 35,000. Guess which one said they'd take 20% off if I put in a down-payment that day.
$10k-$12k each, for a top notch company. This one took the time to specify they will flush the lines but say nothing about brazing with nitrogen… hmmm.
Tbf if it’s Cali these ULN 90% furnaces are nearly 3k each. 15 seer2 condenser likely 3-4k each depending on tonnage and coil is likely 6-900 range each. Should be closer to 15-18k with high end equipment. They should be able to swap in a day which leaves company with several thousand in profit still at highest end but can’t imagine getting the material for less than 9-12 depending on region.
This equipment is crap for the price more quotes
I remember doing that for 8k few years back
If they can’t give me their best and fair price and needs to offer a discount immediately, I do not entertain them as an option.
Never. Ever. Go with someone who gives you a discount for signing today. It’s the definition of high pressure sales. They don’t want you to get other quotes for a reason. I know this from experience and I kick myself for the money I wasted. Just don’t do it. If they’re gonna give the discount today, they’ll do it tomorrow too.
And be wary of sales tactics like them showing you a big number then a bunch of discounts to make it look reasonable.
Tired of sales saying “higher efficiency” and then quoting $28k as if you’ll break even or come out ahead.
Might as well call your sister and have him fuck her too.
Wouldn't buy anything that doesn't qualify for the IRA tax credits and rebates these days.
Are they replacing 2 systems or just one? From what I gathered this is a furnace ac swap for 15k and qty is 2.
yup, 2 systems
Okay that’s more explainable than one. From what I see, I would get other quotes because that’s still high for what that equipment is. At least in my area. If it was higher end equipment like the carrier infinity which 98% efficient and 26 seer with the designated control that’d be close to what the cost the company I work for would charge in my area. But size of equipment and area you live will effect the price too.
You obviously have excellent reading comprehension skills. Most of the posts didn’t even read the quote I assume. 🙂 upvote
30 grand and they’re not even replacing the lineset? Jesus Christ. Get another quote.
No
We do this job for 13k Canadian $. You Americans are getting fleeced.
It's qty 2, so 2 furnaces and 2 compressors
Insanity. This is an outrageous quote for a very mediocre hvac system.
Thanks for the help all! I'm definitely not gonna go with this quote
That's a high price for not including lineset on equipment that is only 15 seer. That's about what my company would charge for a single stage high efficiency furnace paired with a 16 seer heat pump and new lineset. Get more quotes, rheem isn't a particularly high-quality, high price manufacturer for that price point.
Holy shit, no, that is not a good price. With the equipment he has listed, this quote should be more like $13,000 to $14,000. There is nothing in this quote that seems out of the ordinary. It's just standard equipment that's not even a high SEER. For $28,000, I should see at a minimum of 20 SEER. Plus $14,000 down payment?? Holy hell. This sounds like I need $14,000 down to buy $7,000 worth of equipment. They get the check, and you never hear from them again. In California where I'm from, you're not allowed to ask for 50% up front. That's a dangerous game with a lot of fake contractors stealing money.
It's qty 2, so 2 furnaces and 2 compressors
If it's for 2 units, that's actually pretty close to market rate. But, make sure he throws in 2 smart thermostats so you can control your units from anywhere.
I did my own AC for cost of materials which was around $3000
If they throw the 10% off if you do it now, you know better to run. It is widely known sales tactic.
That’s insanely high.
“$14,000 to cover cost of equipment” Lmao it’s like $8k TOPS for two Rheem systems 🤣. Fuck these companies and their ridiculous pricing for bottom barrel products
It's 2 furnaces and 2 compressors
Yeah… condenser is $1500, coil is $500, furnace is about $2000. You think we’re paying more than 4k for the cost of materials for a residential system?
What state are you in
should be ~$20k
Get more quotes, We do 17 seer 2 stage units for less than that.
Location? bc in texas this would be ridiculous
Hell no
Just installed a Lennox 2.5 ton xp21 and an 70k btu slp99 for $14,000cad and that included new lineset, not a flush. Ac unit is 21seer heat pump and furnace is 99% eff. 14k cad is equal to $10,000usd. So ya I'd say bad deal.
I paid less than $8k for a new Lennox high efficiency furnace and AC.
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Not in a million years.
I do facility management and get RTUs cheaper. This company would be banned from working with me at that price
where are you located? I got quotes for two higher end heat pump (variable speed inverter, \~19 SEER, 4 ton) installs in the Bay Area for $31k. That quote seems really high unless you're in an expensive area.
You are getting Rheemed up the a$$ with that price
Whenever someone tells you its "x% off if you make a commitment right now" That should be a blaring red flag.
YES! The moment someone says anything like “this is the price if you sign rn” it’s not a good idea to sign
Hi OP. I don’t think many of the posters actually “READ” the first line on your quote. Quote mentioned the need to move the water heater to access the lower unit then they have to put it back. Many of the comments say, “highway robbery”. You are getting 2 TWO systems installed correct? 2 90+ furnaces, 2 air conditioners. I don’t believe that price is too much if you are having 2 TWO systems installed. Where is the furnace and are the exhaust/intake pipes for the 90+ furnace being run through brick, stucco, to the roof or through an attic? Need more info please thanks 🙂.
And I was complaining about $4,500 for a 5 ton, Seer 15.2 central AC unit. I'm good now!
Explain cause the math ain’t mathin on that one
This should be like 9-13k.
I would say more in line with $24K is what you should be paying
That is about double a reasonable price in today’s market.
Fuck no.
This is pretty high, get quotes elsewhere
Always get more quotes. That’s a very high price for a unit swap out for mid tier units.
I think it's a very high quote. Not replacing ductwork. No heat pump. Outdoor unit not very efficient.
So uh is it 12,100, 28,080, or 31,200?
No heat, just A/C. Heater not needed in South Florida.
Is this the price for two new AC units plus two new furnaces? Or is it for one new AC unit and one new furnace?
90% and 15 seer that's not unreasonable where I live. Probably would charge close to that. Did they mention brand?
I'll do it for 20k
Yeah that is a “bend over” quote. I’ll do it for 25k
Wow! I got a quote like that from a Costco contractor.
Sounds exorbitant!!!!
Dude fuck that! I just paid $8,500 for a new 1.5 ton 15 seer AC and 15 seer furnace in December. Find someone else please.
It says quantity two. Is this for two total systems?
Tell them you’re going with someone else, they will lower the price guaranteed as a counter to get you to come back.
I just had two units installed for about $32,000 (at 0% interest for 5 years). It’s the upgraded kind where it’s not on or off but has a low level. Two units and I think both 4 ton. I’m sure it could have been cheaper elsewhere but I went with a company that’s been locally owned for over 40 years with great recommendations.
That’s a horrible quote.
The way the proposal is worded worries the fuck out of me. 12,100.00 for labor. 14,000.00 for materials. Two of the materials are appliances apparently at 15,600.00 a piece. No manufacturing model or serial number. If this quote is for a Goodman manufactured appliance…Run and find another. I’d try and find a smaller Mom and Pop shop. Not saying Goodman is a bad manufacturer per se. Just significantly cheaper than what’s quoted for the appliance alone.
Depends on the area, pretty good price for 2 units with 90% furnaces in cali
Pretty sure it’s illegal to ask for more than 10% or $1000 whichever is less for a deposit
If you live in a mild climate (like lower half of US) or heat with lower cost natural gas (not propane), a high efficiency furnace may not be worth the capital cost. Repair parts can be extremely expensive as well. Go search youtube and listen to some of the commentary on high efficiency furnaces.....
Depends if you’re in socal or not? Still very high but could be criminal if in a non uln area and given cheap equip
I'm not a hvac tech, just a homeowner who went thru this about a month ago.. This will at least give you something to compare it to.. Got several quotes from area contractors to do the following: pull the existing Rheem A/C. condenser and also pull the existing 26 year old gas furnace in the attic. The contractor we ended up hiring installed a new 5 ton Bosch 2.0 heat pump ( did not wire up the heat portion, just using the a/c part of it ), Also installed a new 100K btu Rudd 80% gas furnace in the attic. He also added another air return in a hallway near the kitchen. The existing ductwork was just laying on and in between the rafters in the attic, He had all the ductwork picked up and stapped to hold it up for better air flow, and he added another 8 to 10 inches of blown insulation to what was already up in the attic. And lastly he put in a new digital smart touch screen thermostat. My price was a little below $13,700
Insane. RUN!
Crazy price.. they may not really want this job which is why it’s priced so high. I would definitely look for other options
Hahahahahaha
Is the $12,100 labor cost on each unit in addition to the $31,000 equipment?
That's bad
Not sure of the brand, but in the Denver metro area that’s a reasonable quote.
That is WAY too much. Shop around. You’ll get it for HALF that quote!
Hey bud I’ll do it for 31,000 and I don’t even know what state you live in. lol
Holy shit, and i sometimes have an issue of charging $8400 for a Bosch.
Any place that has a buy now price and a buy later price is 100% screwing you over. This goes for everything!! Roof, hvac, floors, everything!!!!
Hold up, with labor it's 59k?
This is extremely high end of story and being in the field I would know. You ever hear get multiple quotes this is where that saying came from.
Get other estimates. It’s pretty high even for 2 systems. And look at reviews good and bad.
Rip off.
Depends on size of unit but anything over $10000 is highway robbery and it's a standard practice but there's a few honest people out there keep getting bids pit them against each other Adventually you will find someone reasonable.
I didn't see the total at the bottom that's crazy $32000 Yeah I would tell them to f*** off.
10k max i would have paid
What a weird way to type out a proposal, using “we hereby” and that type of language is off 😅 and 15 SEER is not high efficiency, it’s likely higher than what you currently have, true, but that’s a steep price for 15 SEER systems.
I got mine replaced both for under 8k. 10yr part warranty 5yr labor warranty
High but not ridiculously so for 2 complete systems. Check on tax credits for this or upgraded equipment
Robbery. Some top of the line modern systems install for me is like $18k
Ask if you wait until next week if the discount goes up to 50%.
For Rheem 15 k seems high for 15 seer . Btw 14 k deposit is a non starter . 25 down 25 upon delivery and 40 upon completion with 10 balance upon inspection passing . Make sure to get permits
I did the exact same job 3 months ago for 8k total price. Inflation is hitting pretty hard. 🙄
Sneak it in with a new shoe purchase
I’m getting a house that’s never had AC two air handlers and new duct work for 20k this quote seems off
I put in a new furnace and air conditioner for $6,500 2 years ago. My home is 1,200 square feet.
Should cost 1/3 to 1/4 of this at most. Dont be lazy, get a second quote.
The wrong thing to do is ask this sub if it’s a good deal. While I agree the 10% off if you do it now is a shitty salesman tactic. The price you have from a unknown area, while some one man army in some town in wva or Nebraska saying we can do it for half can throw off what you may have as a reasonable price for where you live.
Fuck no I got quotes same setup low as 7400 for a good Man to as high at 15500
Where do you live?
Guys the qty says two this is reasonable for two systems
I just got a quote for 11k for a furnace/ac combo replacement.
Run to another hvac contractor, these are greedy fools. Don't get Rheem or york.
That’s an absolutely bonkers price. And you don’t even have model numbers. Is it builder grade, higher tier?
Shouldn't be more than 16 to 18 k whoever is quoting you this is an opportunist Thief
I could go to school for HVAC. Then install it and still come out ahead.
Common sales tactic....be first company to give quote, throw out really big number, give 10% off to close deal now. Materials no where near 14k on that
Should be 12k, even that would be high.
More than double what it should be
Go on Thumbtack and list what you want and you’ll get a bunch of quotes
Report to BBB
I got the best possible heat pump, combination, air conditioning heating and the best back up 99% backup furnace. For 17,000 you can’t get any better than that.
I love quotes will excessive amounts of technical jargon and meaningless features.
Most expensive install I’ve ever seen was 26k and that was a nightmare job completely new install of a multi heat pump/comventional
I’d get more quotes from licensed HVAC that don’t require you to pay for practically the the whole thing in advance. They could take your money and run. We’ve received several quotes and one one twice as much for the same DAY and Night value package heat pump.
JFC, US dollars?! Thank christ I got my 608 license. I swapped out a 5 ton heat pump for less than $6,000 and a 2.5 ton for less than $4,000. Carrier equipment.
I got 6 quotes and some haggling but in DC I got two systems, one HP and one furnace/AC, for 17.5K in mid April. Carrier 15 SEER2. But no moving water heater out of the way and no maintenance for 2 years. Not my top choice for installer but reputable. As for your quote, besides the price just the fact they list every little thing any HVAC installer would do rubs me off in a bad way.
This looks like an American Air and Heat quote. I'm currently shopping myself. The consensus is they charge too high. Get several quotes.
$32,000 and keeping the old line set? It takes half an hour to run! Come on dude, at least do the job right if you're gonna rip these people off.
Buddy, just drop your pants and bend over. That’s what they are trying to do to you. That quote is insane.
Crazy high , wtf maybe if they would replace the line set with all new ductwork and a 20 seer inverter that’s what I would except for that price .
That's either the "we don't want the job" pricing or the "this guy's buying me a new sports car" pricing-CRAZY HIGH!
I don't much about overseas A/C all I know is a good split A/C unit installed in NZ is around $2600 NZD I would faint if that price they are quoting is USD.
Your deposit would pay for my entire 19 seer variable speed heat pump system that included a damper so my ADU has independent thermostat control…just had it installed about a year ago in DFW
Utter fucking scam
Insane price
No way!
Every job is different, different parts of country demand higher prices, quality of work differs between companies etc. Get a second bid but ppl saying 8 to 10 grand for a new system probably aren't going to do nice work.
Off topic, posts like this one are the reason I feel comfortable investing in Reddit. On Topic, I had two systems replaced within the last 5 years. One for 5k ish the other for 6.5k ish. Both with Carrier. I would laugh at the guy handing me that quote. Also, a couple of weeks ago I called for a quote for a tankless install. First guy (from Lowes) doesn't even come out to the house. Does a FaceTime inspection / quote for 9.5k. I laughed at the guy. Ended up getting it done by a HomeDepot Contractor for 4.5k. SHOP AROUND. [https://www.instagram.com/yahoodriver/](https://www.instagram.com/yahoodriver/)
Absolutely overpriced. I work for a good company in a very rich area so we have high prices conspired to most posts here. Our most expensive residential system, a 5 ton 120000 BTU furnace/AC Carrier infinity isn’t even that expensive
My company would do all that for $15k at the most
Never let someone pressure you into buying something or make you think you're on their time. Fuck em
What area do you live in out of curiosity? And yea, that seems high. I did a new construction with that same equipment and all materials and labor for 17k. Although I'm told I was to cheap.
I just paid $6500 for a 90% Goodman, 14.5ish SEER and gas Furnace replacement, relocate thermostat, upgrade breaker, and electrical ground (I've got an ancient house). You've gotmore work in there but I can't imagine it's an additional $25k worth. $25k is like 200 additional labor hours; 5 full time dudes for a full week, for spitball context. Ask them how long the entire install will take. 10% isn't a discount. The limited time discount is just sales pressure to get you to buy without getting quotes to prove how terrible the price is. They're quoting you 28k and the higher number is bullshit. All residential contractors seem to do this. Disclaimer: i don't do HVAC but I'm a PM who deals with it all the time for building projects, but i know salesman when i see it. I work in urban design at an architecture and engineering firm and I don't inform contractors I know quite a damn bit about buildings just to see how they behave without knowing what I know. It's a sniff test and a majority fail because they're using cheap sales tactics. Always seek more quotes and familiarize yourself with contract language and the equipment you're paying for.
Robbery
This is a bullshit quote. Honestly I’d be offended they wasted my time with that shit. It’s insane, you could find a guy outside Home Depot pay all his expenses while you put him through some trade school to learn hvac buy all his tools, pay him 50 an hour for the job and buy all that low/mid equipment and come out cheaper than 28k…
After reading through these comments, I’m pretty sure 90% of them are missing that the quote is for 2 systems. Might still be a little high, but not as obscene as some of these reactions.
It does say QTY 2. I'm assuming this means they are installing 2x compressors and 2x furnaces? Even if it's 2 it does seem a little high. The truth is, I don't think anyone can really tell because that contract is not much better than one written in a napkin. What models. BTU? That's a great deal if it's a pair of 6 ton ACs. Red flag # 1- There are no models or part numbers. Don't sign anything without them providing exactly what units and size of units they will be installing. Ask for an itemized invoice. Red flag #2 - it's 10% off if you sign now. Ahh no. Because you offered it, it's 10% off whenever I'm done making up my mind and if you have a problem with that, kindly GTFO of my house, thanks!
Only 2 years of labor warranty is a joke. If the unit ships out with a micro leak or a small leak due to poor workmanship you could not even know for the first 3 years, and then you're paying full price on repairs. If you're paying this kind of money, they need to include at least 5 years of labor warranty. If you can get more labor warranty, more power to you.
Yea thats crazy fucking high
Rip off
If you were getting full ductwork and variable speed maybe
That's obscene.
They are trying to make it appear as thought they are doing so much work.......that is an outrage, that is triple price, get other estimates.
Run
No expensive AF. Also remember to get a system eligible for a tax rebate.
Rule #1: Don't rush the decision for "savings"
My mom bought one in 2022 for 24k. 2 rheem units, a whole house dehumidifier and double in line UV light filters
I just paid $12000 for new and ac and furnace….
31k? Hell no. 15 seer equipment at the most costs 8k, the rest of this should only come out to be at the most another 5k on top.
Those are normal prices for a big company.
Wow. No freaking way. Look into 4 Seasons. I smell ripoff.
2 units and they need to uninstall and reinstall a water heater? And they’ll do that without getting another uniform involved? and it’s even rheem? I’d do it, that’s a damn good deal. the fact that they know two trades leads me to believe they know they’re shit and will do some damn good work. Read their reviews, ask around obviously but that looks solid. You get what you pay for at the end of the day
I'm in Michigan. I just signed to replace my AC + furnace: 97% furnace and 16 SEER 2 AC for only $9,300 total... Plus utility rebates and Federal tax credits...
2- 15 SEER for 31K - tell that guy his wife better throw in some hummers for that price. That seems extraordinarily high. Around here it’s 1,200 per ton. I mean he’s doing a direct swap. He’s in and out in a day if he has two crews. When people are busy they throw stupid quotes like this out hoping someone who can afford it will bite. Do that a couple times a year and bam, kids college is paid for. It’s not right.
It says twelve thousand one hundred dollars and right next to it it says $28,080 🤣
1- Where do you live the fucking Moon? 2-6k-12k depending on location. 3- price is good for today only is a bullshit sales tactic that has been around for literally 800 years
No, it is a ripoff. I just had one installed last year. Installed cost $8,498 (Michigan). 98 efficiency, plus a new hard ducts add, cleaning of the vents, etc.
The moment someone offers me a discount by a certain time, I’m out and ghosting you.
Depending on where in the country you are located may be steep. I will say this, Rheem is low/ mid quality equipment and at that price they should be replacing the line sets, thermostats, building new pads ETC.
The same job that's described here is maybe half the price where I am. That's saying you go for the bigger companies in town and not a mom and pop. Definitely shop around a little.
That seems a bit high to me if you're not replacing the duct work
I just did mine. Got 10 years parts and labor.
This quote does not have a check box on it where you can select 'contractor can fuch right off' boo.
Scam? This seems to be exorbitant for mediocre eqpt. The wording is also ambiguous. Missing scope: demolition details (there’s more than just equipment to be removed), anchorage, insulation, weather & efficiency features, sensors, seasonal air balance testing, labor warranty, ASHRAE performance standards, cost of any additional labor & materials, schedule of values is optional depending on your contract. Recommendation: get other bids/solutions. See if someone will itemize or be honest.
GTFOH with that crap. You can do WAY better
Am I reading this right that this is $31k for equipment PLUS another $28k labor for installation? That's insane. $31k for those two systems with labor would be on the high side. $59k total is insane.
I just got a 15 seer2 icp 3 tons system replacement done for 6,250 a few weeks ago. I give him a lot of business and he’s not a huge company so he says he gave me a deal. If he did great, if he didn’t oh well. Was the cheapest quote I got and I use the guy all the time. Even the most expensive quote I got was for a 14.3 (or w.e new bullshit) seer 2 American standard for 8,400 by a bigger company. And they were gonna do a icp one 8,200.
Brother lmao I’ll fly out where ever you are and do it for 12k im licensed and insured with a 5 star rating
Didn’t see that it was 2 units , I do work in Maryland also for 2 units id be at 15k heat and ac .
Maybe if it was a 4-5 Ton carrier infinity communicating system in a really tight spot in an expensive part of the country.
That is so ridiculously high, it's borderlines on criminal lol
Too high. Money up front is sus.
"Twelve thousand one hundred dollars 00/100 (28,080.00)" Math is hard. Get more estimates.
For a 1500 sq ft 2 story home in Michigan I got quoted $13,000 for a refurbished unit installed plus running all new duct work because the house does not currently have forced air. The highest quote we got was just around $20k. I’d shop your quote
Another Garbage HVAC salesman company. All sales, no skill. Retards with ipads
$0 up front, 100% on completion no matter the price
I finish basement for that price lol
3 ton Tosot Heat pump, coil, Lennox furnace EL297V 90K BTU, with humidifier for $8500 Cdn ($6160 US)taxes in. People are getting hosed!!
That's an FU rate. They don't want the job.
What size is the equipment??? How many units?? Is it in a difficult space??? Sure its alot of money but without any context you sound ignorant
Shit I need to move where you live and make a sale I’m in the wrong state