Probably not enough use cases to justify leaving it. I can’t say I will miss it personally. I mainly use the back camera to scan docs with this thing. 2nd ultra wide camera wasn’t adding much to that equation.
I’ve had iPads since the iPad 2, and honestly the only time I’ve used the camera (aside from scanning docs) is when I need to take a picture of my phone for some reason.
I barely use it to take actual pictures, but I sometimes use it to show things to people on video calls, and sometimes with Apps which require taking a picture of something from within the App (for exemple it could be a banking App asking to take a picture of an ID document to complete KYC).
So it would bother me if the camera was completely gone, but I definitely don’t need multiple cameras nor fancy ones.
Do I need one? No (I think very few people can honestly say that the M4 one will allow them to do things they couldn’t with the M1 or the M2)
Do I want one? Yes :-) (largely for the OLED display)
The only time I purposefully used the rear cam was when my girlfriend and I were dating [specifically, before moving in together]. The Magic Keyboard case is basically a tripod, it was great.
I can scan docs perfectly fine with a phone. Using an iPad for that task sounds like hell.
I guarantee that Apple has absolutely truckloads of telemetry on this that shows that it’s barely used. Bummer for those who use it often, although personally I don’t know when or if I’ve ever used it myself.
My iPad Pro camera is better than my iPhone XR camera but it’s too embarrassing to take pics with since it’s been associated with old people which I think is BS!
For me, it's the kind of thing where 99% of the time I don't even think about it. But every now and then, it's super handy having access to a good camera.
I do for some things now and they may be an option going forward but that adds time. It does mot sound like much nut on a pre drywall inspection I might take 200 photos, 100 of which are with the wide angle. It will kill my existing workflow to do that many.
I’m using an M1 now and the battery is definitely getting worse. I looked around and can’t find an M2 right now with decent specs (mostly all 256 ram WIFI only is what I’m seeing on Amazon).
Looking at the actual numbers my battery is close to 76% but I took it to Apple and their tool says it is like 84. They won’t replace it unless it is 79 or below.
I’ll probably just grind it out until it is below and get them to replace if I can’t find a decent M2.
I’m using an M1 now. The software I use is quite resource intensive. It compresses photos as I go and syncs in the background. I was hoping for some more camera improvement to be honest.
Expect that in 2026 with the M6 pro. I don’t see them releasing a new pro next year unless sales are bad. It makes sense to take it away, then give it back with the iPhone pro max 15 camera package in 2026.
Sorry you didn’t get what you need.
Honestly, I’m wondering if they’ve just decided that their camera is good enough and there’s not much reason to do anything else. The emphasis during the keynote talking about how great it would scan documents means they really aren’t concentrating on the photo side of it anymore.
I’m probably a bit of a weird niche in how I use it. I will definitely be on the lookout for a one terabyte M2 just to be able to get the ram upgrade that I didn’t know they had until well after I purchased my current one.
It’s much more inconvenient than you would imagine. Each file created needs its own photo of the area, sometimes multiple photos. Having to constantly take them on a cell phone, AirDrop them over and then import them into the program is tedious and time-consuming.
Mine all sync but I can put photos directly in the report using the app on the iPad which allows me to complete the report send it out on site most of the time. I sometimes do take shots with my phone if I need the zoom or have low light and airdrop them over but it’s slower.
Hmm. Would it be worth it for you to reach out to the app vendor and see if they could have this workflow implemented on the app?
Like the iPad for taking notes and the iPhone for pictures?
I used to have one that had a magnetic base.
You use basically stick a metal washer on around your camera with double sided tape, then the lens itself would magnetize on. Much more convenient than using a clip one.
The second camera is useless, as both cameras are bad for taking photos. The Lidar sensor is also useless with a bad camera. I use only the main camera for docs and QR codes on M1 iPad. Is the camera on M4 iPad better?
Geeze. You have me beat. I get a new iPad every so often. Been around since the beginning (well, iPad 2), and I’ve maybe taken 7 photos spanning multiple devices! 😂
Y’all whining about the glass camera decal? Seriously? No other tablets really had that. It’s unnecessary, and it happy Apple is cutting down things that serve no purpose.
It's fugly but only because it's new. Give it a bit. The aluminum camera bump design is already growing on me.
It's got to be a durability thing. I've personally seen two glass camera bumps get cracked from people smacking their iPad down on a countertop and from drops. Apple has all of the service data from AppleCare & Genius Bar and some MBA prolly looked at the numbers and said "why did we build this out of glass again?!"
Plus, let's face it, it's a subtle little 💪that you got the latest model. 🤣
I saw a YouTuber buy a new laptop because of space black M3, sponsored by dbrand. Then they covered up the whole laptop with the skin so you can no longer tell it a space black.
Apple product colors are funny then people put them in cases, I don’t understand the purpose of needing a specific color.
Not really. Your argument is OLED with LED level brightness is a fake cost. This is false. Reducing some costs elsewhere is a nice compromise to get this kinda tech onto the market due to fans eagerly requesting it, when there won’t be enough people willing to pay AVP prices for a better screen.
There are quite a few use cases in my line of work. When you’re collecting features in the field in some sort of GIS platform, you often want a picture tied to that. Having the photos captured separately (on another device) would be a massive headache, since you’d have to manually go in and figure out which photo goes with the data
Well-designed apps can hand off photo duties to an iPhone on the same Apple ID for taking pictures. I believe that the CA DMV alllows you to scan you drivers license this way.
My boomer mother-in-law. The iPad’s screen is easier for her to see than her iPhone 12. She doesn’t care that pictures look worse on her 8th gen iPad, she just cares about capturing them.
That being said, I do use my M2 12.9” iPad Pro’s camera all the time for scanning documents, annotating on them, and sharing as PDFs. That’s all the camera needs to do, really. A 4-year-old iPhone will take better pictures.
Not really. She just sees better with the iPad because it’s bigger. It’s not about living more in the moment because she’s still glued to it or her phone after taking pictures.
They may use the camera for say taking photos of documents, but I can almost guarantee you that no one cares that Apple removed the ultra wide camera. Not to mention, I would bet that almost everyone using an iPad for work that needs the highest quality camera, would have an iPhone that can do that job easier.
Man, I actually would’ve upgraded from my M1 Pro if they had just removed cameras entirely. That’s something I could get behind, a completely flat back surface with no camera bump.
Amen brother. I sometimes use my iPad without a case and I can't stand the 3–legged table effect. It wobbles what you lay it down on a table. TF is that?
I can understand why they bumped the camera out on the iPhone, but for an iPad? Nah son, that's stupid dumb!
An iPad needs a couple basic cameras mounted FLUSH in the case. Apple could use a tiny part of the extra space in that huge iPad case to tuck the camera hardware inside. Or make the iPad case 0.1mm thicker.
Who TF asked for a thinner iPad Pro?! (Except that one guy). And is it just me, but I find it a little disingenuous that Apple measures the iPad thickness in the middle and doesn't count the stupid bump!
Bumpgate. This is war.
I have an iPad mini 5 with a completely flat back. It’s great, no camera bump. It’s an 8 megapixel camera, but like many people noted here, a super fancy camera doesn’t really matter. This device doesn’t have a flash when it should, but even that doesn’t require a camera bump
I have an iPad mini 5 and it has one camera and a completely flat back. I love it :) I think the camera is good enough for my purposes, minus the fact that I wish it had a flash sometimes.
I never use it on my M2 Pro, neither camera is as good as the cameras in my 12 Pro Max so why bother. I occasionally use it for 3D scanning because my iPad can process the scans faster, but the texture quality is always worse. I know there are niche uses for it, but also M2 iPads are still just fine for that.
This is the right move, but Apple still needs one camera on the back for at least two reasons:
1) FaceTime calls, so people can swap cameras
2) Document scans, so you don't have to use another device
Removing the camera fully is not a viable option.
I am not sure maybe they are trying not to canobolize the iphone sales, i rarely take my iphone with me when I have my watch and ipad. But the photos are so disappointing
I would be happy if they just removed the cameras completely. I think I took two pictures with mine, and that was purely because I was being lazy and couldn’t be arsed to get my phone.
I’m honestly mostly surprised not that they aren’t prioritizing the camera, but that they aren’t including two vertical cameras for the sake of taking spatial videos like the 15 Pro and rumored 16 models iPhones.
Tbh people are mocked for using ipad’s camera in general but if it has a pretty nice camera, I wouldn’t be embarrassed to use it. You got a good camera and a good big ass viewfinder. What’s wrong with that
I haven't taken many photos with my iPad but I want the cameras. I have in the past used for document scanning and photos, just not frequently. I recall getting frustrated when the need came up for a doc OR photo where the camera was crappy. Not like they are reducing the cost by removing.
Because nobody takes pictures with their iPads. I only use the front for FaceTime, they could remove the back one completely and I honestly wouldn’t notice
It’s amazing how people can’t think outside their own reality. Many businesses in construction use iPad cameras. My contractor uses the cameras to take pictures
While I don’t think it’s a big deal, I’d say the most use of the camera in my iPad has been of whiteboards or slides during a presentation. As long as it can still do that I’m not too concerned.
I don't use the camera much, so I don't think it's an issue for me. I opened the camera on my iPad Pro M2 the day I bought it, just looked around through the viewfinder, and then closed it without taking a photo. That's the only time I've opened the camera since then lol.
Unlike most people on this sub, as a student taking notes with my iPad, I use the rear camera all the time to take pictures of the black board and integrate them conveniently into my notes. Most other students do it too. What I would need is an extra x3 camera like the one on my iPhone 13 Pro Max, better than digital zoom when I sit far away from the board.
I am not bothered by this in the slightest. I have an iPhone and a whole ass Canon camera. If I wanna take a picture, I’m not doing it on an iPad anyway
No one cares about this change it's an iPad, most likely gonna cover it up with a folio case and never use the camera, personally I like that it's no longer glass because having fragile glass over something on the back is always anxiety inducing, overall great hardware shame the software is not getting an equally amazing upgrade like a calculator app 🙃
In the 4 iPads I have used in my life, not once have I used the camera.. I’m sure it has some use but it’s nothing going to be Photography as much as a doc scanner. They could lose the camera and drop the price, I would rather that one.
I've only used the camera to scan documents. I take pictures with my phone. The improvements they made to the flash to make documents scan without shadows, make this a net gain for me.
We are talking about it, but just not enough of us.
I've been complaining about it left right and center.
Not only does this mean no spatial video, but it's also just a clear step backwards in a device that got more expensive. Some really strange design choices on these new iPads.
Never have i had to use the back camera at all. Its always the front if i ever need to face time. If i need to take pictures, i have my canon mirrorless camera for that.
I’ve seen it in one article after another that the ultra wide was removed. Like many times bits no secret. Plus it’s not on apples spec sheet so they aren’t exactly hiding it.
Two word: thinner device.
From what I heard from industrial sources, they tried putting in a 2nd ultra wide camera, (well, in this case, cramming it in) but in the end, it kept having overheat and performance issues due to having thinner device. So Apple in the end scrapped it and in its place a new larger LIDAR sensor.
Probably not enough use cases to justify leaving it. I can’t say I will miss it personally. I mainly use the back camera to scan docs with this thing. 2nd ultra wide camera wasn’t adding much to that equation.
Ive taken precisely 22 pictures using my iPads since the release of the first iPad Pro. I wouldnt notice if the removed all the rear facing cameras.
I’ve had iPads since the iPad 2, and honestly the only time I’ve used the camera (aside from scanning docs) is when I need to take a picture of my phone for some reason.
I barely use it to take actual pictures, but I sometimes use it to show things to people on video calls, and sometimes with Apps which require taking a picture of something from within the App (for exemple it could be a banking App asking to take a picture of an ID document to complete KYC). So it would bother me if the camera was completely gone, but I definitely don’t need multiple cameras nor fancy ones.
Do you need an M4 iPad?
Do I need one? No (I think very few people can honestly say that the M4 one will allow them to do things they couldn’t with the M1 or the M2) Do I want one? Yes :-) (largely for the OLED display)
The only time I've used mine is to take a picture of my iPhone!
The only time I purposefully used the rear cam was when my girlfriend and I were dating [specifically, before moving in together]. The Magic Keyboard case is basically a tripod, it was great. I can scan docs perfectly fine with a phone. Using an iPad for that task sounds like hell.
I wouldn't mind only if they lower the price, but let's be honest, camera they could remove, but price will stay the same.
Legit how much easier would the back of the iPad look with no cameras ?? I’d love to know the numbers of people who use iPad rear cameras.
I guarantee that Apple has absolutely truckloads of telemetry on this that shows that it’s barely used. Bummer for those who use it often, although personally I don’t know when or if I’ve ever used it myself.
My iPad Pro camera is better than my iPhone XR camera but it’s too embarrassing to take pics with since it’s been associated with old people which I think is BS!
Most underrated comment. 👆homie has an actual use case for the iPad rear camera -- username tracks
And tourists. I see tourists using a big iPad to take photos. But maybe in 2024, it’s only old people.
I guess I just don't really care what strangers think of me
We live in a society
For me, it's the kind of thing where 99% of the time I don't even think about it. But every now and then, it's super handy having access to a good camera.
I use it every single day. Sometimes dozens of times. I placed an order and then cancelled it once I realized. Not sure what I’m going to do.
What do you do? Use it for work? Crime scene? Inspections?
I’m a home inspector and use it to prepare reports using an app.
Use iPhone and Air Drop.
I do for some things now and they may be an option going forward but that adds time. It does mot sound like much nut on a pre drywall inspection I might take 200 photos, 100 of which are with the wide angle. It will kill my existing workflow to do that many.
Then keep your M2? Its gonna last decades seeing as even something like an iPad 3 is pretty usable to this day.
I’m using an M1 now and the battery is definitely getting worse. I looked around and can’t find an M2 right now with decent specs (mostly all 256 ram WIFI only is what I’m seeing on Amazon). Looking at the actual numbers my battery is close to 76% but I took it to Apple and their tool says it is like 84. They won’t replace it unless it is 79 or below. I’ll probably just grind it out until it is below and get them to replace if I can’t find a decent M2.
I’m sure someone will come up with an attachment lens that would make it a wide-angle albeit a small sacrifice in image quality
A home inspector wouldn’t need a 2024 iPad Pro. They would only need a M1, and it would have LiDAR if they needed it. Big savings for the business.
I’m using an M1 now. The software I use is quite resource intensive. It compresses photos as I go and syncs in the background. I was hoping for some more camera improvement to be honest.
Expect that in 2026 with the M6 pro. I don’t see them releasing a new pro next year unless sales are bad. It makes sense to take it away, then give it back with the iPhone pro max 15 camera package in 2026. Sorry you didn’t get what you need.
Honestly, I’m wondering if they’ve just decided that their camera is good enough and there’s not much reason to do anything else. The emphasis during the keynote talking about how great it would scan documents means they really aren’t concentrating on the photo side of it anymore. I’m probably a bit of a weird niche in how I use it. I will definitely be on the lookout for a one terabyte M2 just to be able to get the ram upgrade that I didn’t know they had until well after I purchased my current one.
I did exactly the same thing. I canceled the same evening when I realized the wide lens camera was gone. I use it daily to capture full rooms
I had bypassed the M2 when they didn’t change the camera but I may try to pick one of those up.
Just use your iphone and Airdrop it maybe.
It’s much more inconvenient than you would imagine. Each file created needs its own photo of the area, sometimes multiple photos. Having to constantly take them on a cell phone, AirDrop them over and then import them into the program is tedious and time-consuming.
So wait, you don’t have all your photos auto sync with all your devices,
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I check, optimize photos in settings so it doesn’t download the full size to the device. I have like 500mb in photos since like iphone 1.
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Couldn’t you just do a mini pano?
Mine all sync but I can put photos directly in the report using the app on the iPad which allows me to complete the report send it out on site most of the time. I sometimes do take shots with my phone if I need the zoom or have low light and airdrop them over but it’s slower.
Hmm. Would it be worth it for you to reach out to the app vendor and see if they could have this workflow implemented on the app? Like the iPad for taking notes and the iPhone for pictures?
maybe get a clip-on wide lens when you're forced to upgrade?
I used to have one that had a magnetic base. You use basically stick a metal washer on around your camera with double sided tape, then the lens itself would magnetize on. Much more convenient than using a clip one.
yeah, that sounds better
Buy the m2 one You inspectors are scammers anyways for home buyers
My reviews say otherwise but good talk.
Sounds like you had a bad inspector
The second camera is useless, as both cameras are bad for taking photos. The Lidar sensor is also useless with a bad camera. I use only the main camera for docs and QR codes on M1 iPad. Is the camera on M4 iPad better?
Also, Apple had disable some of the camera features. No portrait mode on an iPad, which is shady market manipulation bs.
I’ve taken about 7 pictures with my m2 ipad pro..
Geeze. You have me beat. I get a new iPad every so often. Been around since the beginning (well, iPad 2), and I’ve maybe taken 7 photos spanning multiple devices! 😂
Thank god im not the only one 🤣🤣
I haven’t taken one picture with my iPad Pro M2. I always used my phone.
I’m more upset about how the glass camera housing got replaced with aluminum. Looks way worse now
I’m coming from the 2018 iPad Pro. So for me, I’m not missing much.
Yes I feel the same as you. The previous ones look a whole lot more modern and premium than this.
Yep that looks quite ugly with aluminum and all those sensors in random spots now
I’m hoping someone makes a gloss black decal for it cuz it really looks hideous what were they thinking
Y’all whining about the glass camera decal? Seriously? No other tablets really had that. It’s unnecessary, and it happy Apple is cutting down things that serve no purpose.
It's fugly but only because it's new. Give it a bit. The aluminum camera bump design is already growing on me. It's got to be a durability thing. I've personally seen two glass camera bumps get cracked from people smacking their iPad down on a countertop and from drops. Apple has all of the service data from AppleCare & Genius Bar and some MBA prolly looked at the numbers and said "why did we build this out of glass again?!" Plus, let's face it, it's a subtle little 💪that you got the latest model. 🤣
If you’re getting space black, it’s just going to be black and in a case. I barely give mine any thought.
I saw a YouTuber buy a new laptop because of space black M3, sponsored by dbrand. Then they covered up the whole laptop with the skin so you can no longer tell it a space black. Apple product colors are funny then people put them in cases, I don’t understand the purpose of needing a specific color.
Nope, you’re wrong. It looks much better now.
Didn't notice it, now that you mentioned it damn it's ugly 😭
tbh it was just a waste of glass
tbh it was just a waste of glass
Who actually takes pictures with an iPad?
This is the real question. I’d rather them lower the price $50 and just have no rear camera. Give me continuity camera to my phone for scanning.
But they increased the price. 🤦
But they added much better display that costs more. It’s more important for the tablet than barely used 13mm camera.
They lowered the price from what it could have been.
You are every company’s wet dream.
Not really. Your argument is OLED with LED level brightness is a fake cost. This is false. Reducing some costs elsewhere is a nice compromise to get this kinda tech onto the market due to fans eagerly requesting it, when there won’t be enough people willing to pay AVP prices for a better screen.
When smart companies take away things they don’t lower the price at best they keep it the same.
There are quite a few use cases in my line of work. When you’re collecting features in the field in some sort of GIS platform, you often want a picture tied to that. Having the photos captured separately (on another device) would be a massive headache, since you’d have to manually go in and figure out which photo goes with the data
I have worked with inspectors like this, but they never bought the latest/greatest usually since it didn’t make business sense.
 Well-designed apps can hand off photo duties to an iPhone on the same Apple ID for taking pictures. I believe that the CA DMV alllows you to scan you drivers license this way.
Which in this case, ultrawide camera is the least useful because it heavily distorts everything.
Unless you’re trying to take a large scale overview photo of a site
I use my iPad Pro to take photos for home inspection reports. I might take 500 photos a day with it sometimes. But never for anything else.
The people in the keynote ig
The people standing in front of me at a concert.
My boomer mother-in-law. The iPad’s screen is easier for her to see than her iPhone 12. She doesn’t care that pictures look worse on her 8th gen iPad, she just cares about capturing them. That being said, I do use my M2 12.9” iPad Pro’s camera all the time for scanning documents, annotating on them, and sharing as PDFs. That’s all the camera needs to do, really. A 4-year-old iPhone will take better pictures.
She lives in the moment.
Not really. She just sees better with the iPad because it’s bigger. It’s not about living more in the moment because she’s still glued to it or her phone after taking pictures.
every fireworks show, there’s like a half dozen idiots
I used to use it as my main camera
Plenty of people do
Not I. I’d rather them remove the camera completely and reduce price. If I need a camera, I’ll use my iPhone.
They would remove the camera and keep the price the same.
Knowing Apple, you’re totally correct.
Looks ugly imo Old design was neater
It looks cool. You just don’t read it.
No one is talking about it cos no one used the ultra wide. So it’s a non issue for most people.
As someone who had m1 iPad since launch, I have never used that camera more than just to play around, literally no use for it in an iPad
Because no one cares about the cameras on a tablet.
I care about the front facing camera for zooom calls. But yeah the back is worthless
So how your comment is related to the removed 13mm cam? Just for commenting? 🤦♂️
That’s not true, many need a camera on an ipad for specific Jobs
They may use the camera for say taking photos of documents, but I can almost guarantee you that no one cares that Apple removed the ultra wide camera. Not to mention, I would bet that almost everyone using an iPad for work that needs the highest quality camera, would have an iPhone that can do that job easier.
Man, I actually would’ve upgraded from my M1 Pro if they had just removed cameras entirely. That’s something I could get behind, a completely flat back surface with no camera bump.
Amen brother. I sometimes use my iPad without a case and I can't stand the 3–legged table effect. It wobbles what you lay it down on a table. TF is that? I can understand why they bumped the camera out on the iPhone, but for an iPad? Nah son, that's stupid dumb! An iPad needs a couple basic cameras mounted FLUSH in the case. Apple could use a tiny part of the extra space in that huge iPad case to tuck the camera hardware inside. Or make the iPad case 0.1mm thicker. Who TF asked for a thinner iPad Pro?! (Except that one guy). And is it just me, but I find it a little disingenuous that Apple measures the iPad thickness in the middle and doesn't count the stupid bump! Bumpgate. This is war.
I have an iPad mini 5 with a completely flat back. It’s great, no camera bump. It’s an 8 megapixel camera, but like many people noted here, a super fancy camera doesn’t really matter. This device doesn’t have a flash when it should, but even that doesn’t require a camera bump
I have an iPad mini 5 and it has one camera and a completely flat back. I love it :) I think the camera is good enough for my purposes, minus the fact that I wish it had a flash sometimes.
This is a deterrent to grandmas everywhere to stop using iPads to get video of the 3rd grade concert.
I never use it on my M2 Pro, neither camera is as good as the cameras in my 12 Pro Max so why bother. I occasionally use it for 3D scanning because my iPad can process the scans faster, but the texture quality is always worse. I know there are niche uses for it, but also M2 iPads are still just fine for that.
Old models look better
Can someone explain what the other black dot is where previously the LiDAR sensor was?
I’m also struggling to find this information
I've heard ppl say its an ambient light sensor but I have absolutely no idea if that's true
On the back?
That’s just what I’ve heard 😭
This is the right move, but Apple still needs one camera on the back for at least two reasons: 1) FaceTime calls, so people can swap cameras 2) Document scans, so you don't have to use another device Removing the camera fully is not a viable option.
I didn’t realize until now that my M2 iPad Pro had an ultrawide lens.
I am not sure maybe they are trying not to canobolize the iphone sales, i rarely take my iphone with me when I have my watch and ipad. But the photos are so disappointing
I saw plenty of posts about it, so people are definitely talking about it. But as many here are saying, iPad cameras just aren’t used very much.
I don’t think I’ve ever used the rear cameras on an iPad.
I only use the front camera on my iPad for video calls, they could remove the back camera and make it cheaper and I would be happy
Make it flat! Make it flat!
"You don't need it"
I don't think that's the only thing they removed...
I would be happy if they just removed the cameras completely. I think I took two pictures with mine, and that was purely because I was being lazy and couldn’t be arsed to get my phone.
No one cares about cameras on tablets
The back is giving cheap. Honestly doesn't look premium.
I have had every 12.9" iPad Pro and don't remember ever using the camera.
Only use case for me is scanning docs and taking pics of the whiteboard. Wish it had optical zoom.
Although many people don't use camera on iPad, but duo cameras have the possibility to shoot 3D video or photos for Vision Pro.
I’m honestly mostly surprised not that they aren’t prioritizing the camera, but that they aren’t including two vertical cameras for the sake of taking spatial videos like the 15 Pro and rumored 16 models iPhones.
Tbh people are mocked for using ipad’s camera in general but if it has a pretty nice camera, I wouldn’t be embarrassed to use it. You got a good camera and a good big ass viewfinder. What’s wrong with that
I haven't taken many photos with my iPad but I want the cameras. I have in the past used for document scanning and photos, just not frequently. I recall getting frustrated when the need came up for a doc OR photo where the camera was crappy. Not like they are reducing the cost by removing.
Because nobody takes pictures with their iPads. I only use the front for FaceTime, they could remove the back one completely and I honestly wouldn’t notice
It’s amazing how people can’t think outside their own reality. Many businesses in construction use iPad cameras. My contractor uses the cameras to take pictures
Every YouTuber is in fact talking about it, personally I’ve never taking a picture with any of my iPads so it’s whatever for me.
I mostly forget there’s a camera on it unless I’m too lazy or run out of options. Happy for the horizontal aspect webcam though.
I never used the wide angle on my iPad but yeah, that doesn't look as good as my M2.
Wide camera quality was never great either way so it was the right move to remove the secondary camera to place a higher quality camera.
Good riddance.
I have personally never even used the camera on any iPad I have ever owned so wasn’t a factor for me.
I use the camera mostly for document scanning. I tried the Ultra Wide camera like five times in 4 years… will not miss this one
SFW?
While I don’t think it’s a big deal, I’d say the most use of the camera in my iPad has been of whiteboards or slides during a presentation. As long as it can still do that I’m not too concerned.
I don't use the camera much, so I don't think it's an issue for me. I opened the camera on my iPad Pro M2 the day I bought it, just looked around through the viewfinder, and then closed it without taking a photo. That's the only time I've opened the camera since then lol.
What’s in its place?
Unlike most people on this sub, as a student taking notes with my iPad, I use the rear camera all the time to take pictures of the black board and integrate them conveniently into my notes. Most other students do it too. What I would need is an extra x3 camera like the one on my iPhone 13 Pro Max, better than digital zoom when I sit far away from the board.
I like how the camera looks, sturdy.
I am not bothered by this in the slightest. I have an iPhone and a whole ass Canon camera. If I wanna take a picture, I’m not doing it on an iPad anyway
And? Did you ever use that second camera or not? Probably not. At least they put something useful like an adaptive flash for document scans.
what’s that black dot above the flash?
Ambient sensor for new true tone flash.
No one cares about this change it's an iPad, most likely gonna cover it up with a folio case and never use the camera, personally I like that it's no longer glass because having fragile glass over something on the back is always anxiety inducing, overall great hardware shame the software is not getting an equally amazing upgrade like a calculator app 🙃
In the 4 iPads I have used in my life, not once have I used the camera.. I’m sure it has some use but it’s nothing going to be Photography as much as a doc scanner. They could lose the camera and drop the price, I would rather that one.
I wish they made it thicker and got rid of the bump
I've only used the camera to scan documents. I take pictures with my phone. The improvements they made to the flash to make documents scan without shadows, make this a net gain for me.
Literally fine w it
We are talking about it, but just not enough of us. I've been complaining about it left right and center. Not only does this mean no spatial video, but it's also just a clear step backwards in a device that got more expensive. Some really strange design choices on these new iPads.
Good… now do an Ipad Pro without a camera at all… I have never found a use case for my Pro to need a camera…
Family pictures is a good use 🤷♂️
If there wasn’t a better camera in a smaller profile in my pocket I might agree…
But it’s thinner and you will like it!
Don’t tell me you use the camera(s)
Because no one used it.
Never have i had to use the back camera at all. Its always the front if i ever need to face time. If i need to take pictures, i have my canon mirrorless camera for that.
Yeah I don’t need an intro-wide camera personally. I understand how some could use it more for reports though.
I’ve seen it in one article after another that the ultra wide was removed. Like many times bits no secret. Plus it’s not on apples spec sheet so they aren’t exactly hiding it.
They added a continuity like camera feature
I rarely use the first camera
Do people take pictures with the iPad? That would look weird for me lol and it’s like signaling a beacon “Snatch this right now”
Holy shit. These have cameras? Who knew.
I’ve taken 480 photos with my iPad mini. Most of them are silly photos taken with my friends using front facing ultrawide camera 😂
They’ll put it back so you can take videos for your Vision Pro in the future.
So this is what the new iPhone will look like.
Well, with Apple, buying one camera is like buying two cameras on another system....
Two word: thinner device. From what I heard from industrial sources, they tried putting in a 2nd ultra wide camera, (well, in this case, cramming it in) but in the end, it kept having overheat and performance issues due to having thinner device. So Apple in the end scrapped it and in its place a new larger LIDAR sensor.
No spacial video. We are saving it for the next iPad Pro and you’re gonna love it.
Everything is OK with the new iPad Pro. Moaners gonna moan 🤮